Update 2: Sony may have been quick to respond to the official wave of leaked The Last of Us: Part II videos, but it's been unable to stop the bleeding. The web is now awash with major plot points from the game. We've implemented some new technology here at Push Square to help detect and hide any spoilers should they be posted, but you should also be careful on YouTube, Twitter, and any other social media platforms.
Naughty Dog has yet to comment on the nature of the leak, meaning it's still unclear how this even occurred. Remember, the title still doesn't have a release date due to the ongoing coronavirus crisis. It's a heartbreaking turn of events for a title that's been in development for several years now.
Update 1: Sony's ninjas were very quick taking the offending channel offline. However, it's possible mirrors may have already been created of this footage, meaning the risk of spoilers will remain high. This isn't the first time that The Last of Us: Part II footage has leaked, and it looks like it won't be the last. Worryingly, the ongoing coronavirus crisis means the title is currently without an official release date.
Original Story: Be very, very careful: enormous The Last of Us: Part II leaks have started to emerge online. Out of respect for Naughty Dog and the game, we’re not going to host or link to the videos here, but rest assured these are legitimate and reveal huge plot points from the upcoming PlayStation 4 exclusive. It’s safe to assume that Sony will be acting fast to have the clips removed, but it may already be too late to keep this leak under control.
Exactly how these videos have found their way online remains unclear, but the title was originally scheduled to release in May, so it’s possible a near-final build found its way into the wild. Among the footage is a huge chunk of unseen gameplay, various cut-scenes, the release's main menu, and what appears to be unfinished multiplayer code. The latter will be released separately at a later date.
Whatever you decide to do, we encourage you to be careful and show respect for fellow fans. Many of us have waited years for this game, so if you absolutely have to watch the clips, please don't spoil it for others.
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Can't say it wasn't coming.
You delay a game, expect selfish individuals to capitalise.
Yeah, these are gigantic spoilers. Beware!
Thanks for the heads up. I'll quickly click away if I catch sight of anything.
tnx for the warning!
i hope none of the PS staff has been spoiled by them.
Wow that’s pretty huge. Personally I don’t mind as I’m not a fan of the series but it wouldn’t be nice for any of you lot to end up getting spoiled.
It's gotta be some play tester who is working at home for reasons. Sorry but naughty dog you gotta vet your play testers better as this one is a tool!
@get2sammyb have you seen them? Im so sorry
Such a shame. Probably a disgruntled ex-employee
So story spoilers? Like big reveals? Oh boy...
Sony release the game now, save us xD
@mist Pretty sure that was in the standalone DLC and I’ve not even played it.
Thanks for the heads up guys! No way I am clicking (pun intended) on anything with TLoU2 in its title till the game lands on my PS4. Yes, that includes the reviews.
"Ambassador, with these Ferrero Rocher you are really spoiling The last of us" .
Thats an awful shame. I swear to satan if someone ruins anything for me im going to find them and hide poop amongst their home every day for the rest of their life..... And also punch them every day...... Forever lol
@get2sammyb there is alway going to be a massive (see you next Tuesday) lying in wait on any forum now who will make it his life’s work to spoil this game. With no release date in sight unless you go internet blind (pretty hard when on lockdown) there’s no way this won’t be spoiled for a lot of people
This is worse than the Corona virus.
@get2sammyb you had it spoiled for yourself? Sorry to hear that.
@LN78 yeah and the easter egg hinting Ellie traveled back and stole Nathan Drake's sperm is pretty wild.
And we're not even past it original release date yet so it's not as if it's early retail copies. But big thanks to PS for the heads up.
@get2sammyb if you're talking about a video which starts with Ellie customising a gun then that's from last years demo gameplay
Looked into these spoilers.
They are massive, and kinda give me bad vibes about the game's direction, I feel sorry for anyone who is shown these without knowing what it is beforehand.
@playstation_king It’s not that. These are unseen story spoilers.
Any link?
The YT videos were nuked.
By the time the bloody game comes out most people will have forgotten what the spoilers were anyway! 😉
@DonJorginho Well it is meant to be the feel bad game of 2020
Its what they deserve just like square enix. They should have released the game 1 month early.
No youtube, twitter and website comment for me then...
Instead of not hosting a link you should have just not reported on it. Tempted people like me to search site historys for the videos. Now i cant unknow....
Personally they could give us a chapter or two to play, i got the chance to play some of the first game as the Beta before it was released I loved it, I guess being so huge with the fanbase they decided not to release a demo for us to play in the meantime, shame.
This is bad, very bad...I personally saw a brief snippet of gameplay and skipped through all the dialogue but even then this is not good at all, the leaks and spoilers are mounting up and the game has no release date in sight...
It's gonna be interesting to see if Ghost of tsushima is indead delayed because if it ends up sticking to it's Scheduled release, then one has to wonder why Last Of Us 2 had to get delayed at all...
Any more spoilers like this come out and this game is in deep trouble, hell, i wouldn't be suprised if the were forced to rewrite the story, meaning a possible 2 year delay or worse ....Cancellation.
If i was Sony, id pull out all the stops to have this Game out ASAP.
@Thunderlips69 yeah lol that’s not happening. They wouldn’t scrap and rewrite a script because of damn leaks. Games and movies have trolls who leak everything all the time and it rarely affects them. This game will still sell gangbusters and will come out whenever Sony decides the best time for that is.
I'm very happy you didn't reveal the spoilers and added the links... I have no intention of trying to find out what the story is about. I rather wait for the game to come out.. thank you pushsquare!
@Thunderlips69 There's no point on change things just for a leak.
Everything get leak nowadays; Pokemon, Animal Crossing, FF7R, etc.
I should play that The Last of Us game too, to see why is everyone sooooo maaaad of this game... Hope it won't be so big disappoint as Horizon Zero Dawn...
Won't be long before youtube's algorithms start recommending videos containing the spoilers in the thumbnails for anyone who has ever watched a TLOU video.
While it's not a game I'm interested in, I do really dislike having something spoiled. So yeah, going to be bad for those that accidentally find out what it is.
@3MonthBeef I'll not ruin anything.
The gameplay looks amazing, the graphics look great for alpha build and the game is long! Around 23-31 hours.
However, the story comes off like a really bad fan fiction that s**** all over the first game and it's characters.
I have my theories on the story. But nothing that I have confirmed. But honestly, I dropped my money already on this pre-order and now I don't even know when it is coming out. That is $70-something that I could have used elsewhere. Spoilers don't really mean as much to me as they do to the rest of the world. But still this is pretty crappy. But honestly, what do you expect when you put a game on an indefinite hold after people have already spent their money on it?
@3MonthBeef I've read and watched a lot. Even spoke to someone on YouTube who was leaking the game.
It sounds like a really bad gender swapped take on MGS 2. I just hope that this narrative makes more sense when it's fully out than it does now.
Sony should release this game asap.
I really sympathise with everyone here. I’ve no idea what they’re going to do now. I kinda feel like they have to put the game out. 🤷🏻♀️
If it turns out to be some bitter ex employee then I hope they get blackballed from the entire industry.
Also can you please ban the guy that is clearly trying to spoil things to people, I did report it but nothing's been done yet.
@Joel, @Akurusu, f*** both of you. Can pushsquare ban these two accounts please?
It got spoiled for me, thank you Sony !!
@Ah-Void Blame the leaker, not Sony.
SERIOUSLY, THIS IS THE WORST DELAYED GAME EVER IN HISTORY, I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THEM, ITS PATHETIC HOW THEY'RE SHOCKINGLY USING THE CARONA VIRUS TO ONCE AGAIN DELAY IT FOR T UMPTEENTH TIME, WTF
Out of respect for Naughty Dog and the game, we’re not going to host or link to the videos here,
@Ironmanajm It's only been delayed twice, get a hold of yourself.
Wtf is wrong with people?
@nessisonett Right over your head.
@Ironmanajm Let’s calm down, please. I know some are upset about the delays and these spoilers but that’s not an excuse to fill our comments with nonsense. Let’s stay on topic and treat others respectfully.
Anyone posting TLOU2 spoilers of any kind will face a ban. No more warnings.
Naughty Dog should really consider taking this opportunity to give this game multiple endings. They are no longer bounded by release dates and could potentially turn this into an advantage.
@DonJorginho Oké i saw the spoilers before this article... F*** the wokeness and the direction
@Lobbo95 It didn’t deserve to be leaked because I was anticipating it as well. But I’m pissed at what I saw.
@Sanquine What do you mean?
@Akurusu i saw the spoilers and its so woke.. America/Californië wokeness...
@AdamNovice I mean Sony is the one that is responsible for the leaks because they didn't find trusted people for testing their games. Also, they are the ones that delayed the game for making more money. So yeah, I blame Sony and you cannot change my mind.
@shyhh but that’ll take forever. They’d have to call everyone back in
Personally i'm not a fan of the last of us at all but spoilers are still terrible when you're looking forward to something and the people who release them are complete sad little arseholes who are probably so starved for attention and recognition sitting alone in their mother's basement that they will do anything to get noticed
What a bunch of wankers (sorry but i aint censoring my words here and it's ok if i get in trouble but i hate the sad, pathetic little bastards)
@Scraggler If it’s in fact a ‘joke’, it’s literally the worst, bottom of the barrel humour out there. Is that what we’re reduced to? ‘Haha you’re gay’?
Honestly, I'd lost all hype for this game before the leak and after seeing the leak, I think that I don't regret cancelling the pre-order. Not saying I won't get it down the line, but it's definitely not something I need at release. Hope it's not too bad for the rest of you though.
Should have released the game digital and worried about sales later this leak could a terrible effect sales when the game actually releases
@Its_Carl_Y-all I think Bruce Straley was the only one who could stop Neil Druckmann... i mean this is Netflix Wokeness Bad story telling.. What a cringe fest! Im so happy that im more and more becoming a Nintendo fan.
Maybe now it’ll prompt naught dog/Sony to release the game
Oké, i now have learned the full story! It is as bad as Game of Thrones season 8 , dexter ending or The last Jedi! Im so done with Naughty dog! Terrible writing! Xbox Will have a field day with Sony supposed to best studio (bla bla immersion) Will create such s***!
I hope Imsomniac or suckerpunch will usurp the position of golden child of Sony 1st party and a restructering of Ndog
@Sanquine Please mind the language.
Trying to avoid the spoilers as much as possible, it's been my most anticipated game since its reveal, I don't even know where it goes from here with release and whatnot, the hype for me has certainly died down with no particular reason than having to wait and wait for it, I'm more hyped for ghost of tsushima at the minute
Ahhh, it wouldn't be a TLOU comment thread without a few people making the effort to let us all know that they think TLOU 1 is overrated and/or TLOU2 is "woke". Thanks guys, we appreciate you taking the time, the world is back on track and you can rest easy tonight.
To the victor, go the spoilers.
Ah great. I read the comments on here last night - one of which has been removed....looks like that was a spoiler. Brilliant. Thanks whoever that was. Im not blaming push square for this btw. Whoever has decided to post spoilers here is an arse (being polite)
The length of the development with the additional cast recruiting we saw last year it look like its taking this long to make the game just because what sounded as a good story plot at first, was then reconsidered and they had to do a lot of "reshooting" last year to make the game a bit more consumable by the mainstream. And we just have to pray, these leaked videos were prom the "previous version". You all think this is possible? I just HOPE so. (Didn't saw these spoilers but I can pretty much guess what was there…)
I mean, i feel bad that years of work from the development team has been leaked.
But there's always a certain amount of pretentious overexageration about the impact of this. It's really a quite simple fact of "don't watch the spoilers" if it's not what you want. Equally, don't go looking around for them, and almost certainly you won't find them. Nothing that a little bit of common sense doesn't fix.
This is another reminder that anyone who posts or even hints at spoilers will be banned immediately.
@Rob_230 Yes, they are idiots, but also it's a known fact that the population of the world is not made up of people who are angels.
Employ a level of caution when reading any articles involving/or is likely to involve spoilers and you won't run into them.
Push Square are doing what they should do which is report on it, but unfortunately it has the double sided effect that ultimately it's likely a few people will take this opportunity to use this article to spoil the game for those who are most interested in this game.
In summary, if you want to play it safe. Read the article and click away. Reading any comments is almost certainly a risk.
Neil Druckmann has ruined this game, what a terrible writer.
Bring back Bruce Straley.
Sadly I’ve been already spoiled by some a-holes on Twitter. They posted screenshots from major plot points. It’s unavoidable I guess, unless you honestly disconnect from social media until whenever Sony decides to release it.
Huge bummer since it was my most wanted game this generation. Still have my physical preorder at GameStop and all.
Heck, I’ll double dip if they release a digital one at the end of the month.
You delay the game from February to May then from May until indefinitely. I'm pretty sure somebody is tired of the delays and wanted to get back at naughty dog
@Jomac3db From what I've heard, apparently it was one designer (not sure if studio employee or freelancer) furious at ND over a payment dispute.
@ShogunRok my guy
Is there anyone who enjoyed the spoilers? It seems like almost everybody who saw it is hating the direction of the story…
@Jomac3db What's with the entitlement?
You talk as though people are somehow entitled to someone elses hard work? I get that people are disappointed with this being delayed, but these big companies are run by stakeholders, and those people hold all the cards.
This won't make the game come forward, because the decision isn't made by the actual people making the game, it's made by the bigwig stakeholders who decide whats financially the best route to take to maximize profits.
So, people aren't getting back at anyone, because it's still going to sell a ton of units when it's released. All this does is hurt the fanbase.
Crap. Google knows I wanna play this game so will probably show me a spoiler once they've spread over more of the Internet >_<
Hope this does end up speeding up the release though. What's the point of delaying now?
Sony and naughty dog staying tight lipped is the wrong move. This changes everything. They need to do/say something ASAP.
Even this comment section isn't safe anymore I guess...
What was the reason for the ex dev leaking it? Were they treated badly in terms of crunch and this was a revenge leak or something? Either way, going online at all is going to make a lot of people very nervous from now on. Fingers crossed it's all swept up soon.
Idiots spoiled RDR2 for me, but it didn't stop me from enjoying the game. Same with this TLOU2, it won't spoil it for me. Games are NOT MOVIES, there's a lot that goes into interactivity, once the layout of all levels, hidden items, weapons, outfits cutscenes etc haven't been laid out bare it isn't spoiled. It's time we tuned our minds that games have NEVER solely been about the story, it's about you UNIQUELY experiencing it for yourself, by y'know PLAYING it. I don't know but if we're going to be so sensitive about spoilers then I'd say official trailers have been spoiling games since the dawn of time.
First saw a story about this on Kotaku AU...much like here suggested maybe a disgruntled (or former),ND staffer or maybe QA tester-if they did manage to track down who,you would wonder if they'd be up for more than just a lawsuit from Sony/ND, & the conduct could be argued as industrial sabotage? And no doubt Xbots more than keen to spoil the party. :-/
Sony definitely need to put out a statement about this. You'd have to hope they can track down the source of the keak. Not sure what the punishment for breaching an NDA is, but im guessing its a hefty fine at the very least
Had no intention of buying, playing or even watching the game so helped myself to the spoilers in full. Not gonna say anything to avoid even tiniest chance of spoilers but yeah. Someone must have been really pissed.
Sony are seriously messing up here, they need to release the game digitally ASAP.
This is all their fault for delaying the game for monetary gain.
@Rob_230 Having worked in the industry for 8 years believe me when I say whoever leaked this almost certainly took all preventative measures to protect their identity.
Every company has different terms for their NDAs so, it's not always clear. For some it's simply dismissal without pay. For others it's a court case with substantial damages by way of fines, or even community service and potential prison time.
Either way, it's unlikely they'll find who it is. I'm sure they'll have an idea, but they'll find no proof if this was a preconceived notion by the individual in question.
@Grindagger I never said they are entitled to anything I'm just saying whomever leaked it was probably mad at Naughty Dog for those reasons.
Crazy that the game has such a rocky road during development.
@Jomac3db Ahh apologies, although my statement was aimed at those who are generally mad by companies postponing their releases in general.
Some people are entitled beyond logical reasoning.
I was already worried about the direction Naughty Dog was heading towards with TLOU. But I couldn't believe what I have read. I'm happy that Sony grants ND to take risky decisions, but in the end what was even the purpose of it.
The story comes off more like a mashup of ""TWD"" and ""13 reasons why" rather than a full blown sequel to the original. Drama and shock value just for the sake of it. I don't want to spoil the story to all of you, but I advice you to take it with a grain of salt.
Treat your employees better and this does not happen.
Just release the bloody game already then. I won’t be going out of my way to spoil it for myself, but if I accidentally stumble upon it then I’m gonna be real mad.
@Rob_230 @get2sammyb
Who would have guessed that guys writing a game with a lesbian love interest were going to screw it up?
@Grindagger Aw ok
@nathanSF - TLoU2 is co-written by a woman. Halley Gross.
What I find particularly piquant about the whole treatment of employees and postponements argument is that you can't have your cake and eat it.
So many people are upset about games being postponed, if there wasn't crunch periods where people are worked insane hours (and I've done them, they're soul crushing) then triple A titles would never hit release dates, or would take a hell of a lot longer to develop.
Due to the complexities of video games, putting the jigsaw puzzle pieces together when you have potentially tens of milllions of lines of code involes a tremendous amount of collaboration, communication and dedication, and sadly, pressure in order for games to hit their targeted dates.
Either be an advocate for people to be treated well, and accept that game delays will take place, and also take a lot longer to be completed. Or don't get involved in the conversation, because you can't have it both ways.
@Grindagger
Of course your right. Theres a lot of hypocrisy or even worse, stupidity.
People play self righteous, virtue signalling, and then cry about delays. Ridiculous.
@Grindagger you're goddamn right buddy, so much hypocrisy with people "crying" about crunch.
@Shigurui
Okay, thanks for that.
Yet still they screwed up.
This is what happens when you keep constantly delaying a game that's probably been pretty much done since February. The longer this game is delayed the more info will come out.
Regarding the leaks that I saw, I think it's not really surprising if you saw all the trailers.
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NEW DATE JUNE 16TH.
Ghost of Tsushima moved back to July 17th.
After completing the first game and finding it somewhat unfulfilling I wasn't really interested in any follow up.
Sure TLOU was different, 'adult' in its characters, themes and narrative. The main problem was that it wasn't as much of a game.
as it was a 'TLOU experience'.
Thankfully I’ve just seen some gameplay video, looks really cool and slick like the first game was. I’ll avoid any plot spoilers as I want to find out for myself.
@Its_Carl_Y-all I for one am going to get my money back for it cuz you're looking the spoilers too They completely ruined the game from I would not play their game ever again when it comes to this they should completely rewrite this f****** game and redo it I can rather get another 50 years than play this game because how if it's true about the spoiler it completely ruins it for a true fans I hear there's a new assassin's Creed coming out so I'll go put my money I got on that game on that game instead on assassin's Creed The last of us two is dead If they sell tons of games I'll be seriously surprised if everybody looks at leaks and then they're going to be pissed at the people who do play it and they didn't read a spoilers
@FX102A I for one won't be playing a game after reading the spoilers myself I'm going to put my money I put on that onto something else more worth my while
@3MonthBeef I agree. But we all know how people are. I-as many people did-bought the digital version. I don't deal in physical discs anymore. I have a two year old. But I also understand that many people do. They could have at least released the digital editions. Or something. I understand that it is not N.D.'s fault, but damn. Don't punish us on top of all of this other nonsense. If anything, release it so people will stay home. (Not like may gamers really go out much, anyway, but still.)
I have seen the images posted buy f**king douche bags that think they are cool and saw some gameplay and i'm not one bit put off by it, i'll experience it myself and not go by leaks like 90% of morons that fell for it.
And as for the leaker/s they need to get not only sued for everything to their name but also blacklisted completely from the video game industry...
Not only that but their face should be publically outed on social media.
I will support Sony and ND and buy the game even if it gets spoiled for me.
They worked hard on this, and i really enjoyed playing the first one about 4 times.
Do not go on r/gaming on reddit. Somebody just listed the spoilers in bullet points, just ruined my morning ☹️😭
@Ironmanajm I'm 30 years old, I work here, and you're breaking lots of community rules. See you later.
I won't spoil anything, but unfortunately I won't be buying the game on launch as planned after I was spoiled certain major story moments.
I had a heart yesterday, but now it's completely gone...aswell as my respect towards Neil Druckmann.
Really hope ND leaves UC and TLOU alone, and move on to work on a new IP....hopefully without SJW and LBGT nonsense.
@DominatorV93 "SJW and LBGT nonsense"
Yeah, how dare lesbians exist.
@naruball If only that was the problem. If anything I love lesbians (gay people in general)...but what I don't like being force-fed by any kind of propaganda in media.
@DominatorV93 how is it propaganda exactly?
@naruball Can't say without spoiling the game, I'm not that kind of c*nt of a person that ruins things for people.
Everything I have said, will be made clear once you and others play the game.Then you will be free to disagree with me and even call me an homophobe or a cave-man (tho sexuality has almost zero connection to the problems I have with the spoiled parts of the game)...
@CountryLyricist If they had released the digital editions before the physical editions, spoilers would be even more of a problem. I think that the biggest fans ordered the $200 limited edition, or whatever it is, and they'll be forced to wait as well. Additionally, these extra weeks give them some time to polish it. I don't see the problem. All the developers being quarantined would've caused some issues I presume. You don't just switch from working at an office, to working at home with the same efficiency from one day to another.
In the end it's only three more weeks.
Further to my comments above, I had a look at all the spoiler videos. I can see why the guy said the game will change the way you saw/understood the original story. However, my opinion is that in the process of forcing a change of perspective, they expected far too much of a shift from the POV of the player. They overplayed their hand when it came to using plot points to force a shift in our views.
I looked into the woman writer and see she worked on Westworld, so I can see where the thinking for the changes in the story form came from (No there are no androids)
You see a lot of these kind of narrative tricks nowadays - they are difficult to pull off and yet still keep the reader/viewer/player engaged. It seems Naughty Dog failed in this regard.
Oh and speaking of the really important issue of shifting the players point of view, the Lesbian thing should be far less of a concern to any objectors - Unless they are looking for more grist to the mill
A pity
@nathanSF Exactly ND really overplayed their hand with this one.
After 20 plus years, I was never dissapointed with ND games but this might be it.
@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L So insults is going to bring you very far and the moderators should really do their job and be objective. Ironman is getting insulted too and there's no objectivity in addressing the matter fairly. Everyone has a right to defend himself when attacked. So can the moderators please address the other users too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I fully agree with Ironman regarding the matter of TLOU2 endless delays. It doesn't mean if u don't agree with it you're view is the only one that counts. Everyone has a right to speak his view point of how he sees things and a normal society demands it, unless this site is not normal and it's commentators are not normal too, right???????
@AJM Hi again. Creating duplicate accounts is also against the rules. If you have an issue with moderation you can use the contact form. See you later.
@Ken_Masters yeah I heard a large portion was hacked. I didn't get an email so I think I'm OK. Hopefully you weren't affected either
Naughty Dog spends more energy on the SJW agenda than taking care of their workers, the people that really matter. That's how you stop leaks. BTW the plot SUCKS!!!!
So... I got spoiled on the game, and I gotta say.
Thank you leaker for saving me $60. That's it. That's all I'm gonna say.
@Thunderlips69 if they dox that guy I will send him a DM thanking him for saving me 60 bucks. The plot stinks and pisses all over TLOU 1.
@Constable_What that bad huh?
@Tha_Likely_Lad I remember Troy Baker saying something along the lines of, "Go into this with an open mind" regarding this game. You're going to need to if you want to enjoy the story, but on top of that, you're going to need to lower your expectation when it comes to Naughty Dog story telling.
The story beats and themes, while absolutely a tired pastiche, could have been interesting in a video game if this game where not a sequel. I can't go into it with an open mind considering the original game exists.
This just doesn't work within the context of the greater narratives of The Last of Us. It forgoes likability, logic, and player expectation, for themes, messaging, and subversion (that I spoiled myself on to be fair), and I dislike that a lot. If you are a fan of Star Wars and hated The Last Jedi, you'll hate this more if you're a fan of The Last of Us.
I'm being very vague. I said that was the last I'd say in my previous post, but I'm honestly a little frustrated and annoyed, but I'm also relieved.
I would recommend waiting for reviews on this one.
@Constable_What cheers buddy. Can confirm was a huge Star Wars fan until I saw Last Jedi, so much so I havent even bothered to watch Rise. You have just made me upset haha. I've still got my pre order and it sounds like I'm going to be pretty annoyed what they do with these characters but still if the game play is as good as it seems from the trailers I won't be too bitterly disappointed. Unlike Last Jedi where I was 1st out the cinema door in frustration
@Tha_Likely_Lad I really hope you enjoy it, I do think the gameplay looks really great, and I will play it after a while.
I'm sorry for upsetting you, but I hope I at least have you some tempered expectations! I think Troy Baker is right. You need an open mind for this one. Hahaha
For what it's worth, I'm betting it's still going to be a pretty good game.
@Constable_What no need to apologise buddy thank you
@Tha_Likely_Lad Hey, you're welcome!
If you allow this leak to ruin the game for you because your too stupid to avoid them then you deserve it tbh.
It's like crossing a busy road...you can get hit if you really wanted to.
Just saying.
And wth is with these people saying they are not buying the game anymore because of the leak!?
What you really mean is you have zero self control and care to do nothing about all while directing your frustration at people that don't deserve it.
@Constable_What knew I couldn't avoid them. I've seen idiots listing stuff in random comments around the net. My god you was right. Awful writing truly awful direction this game has taken. Really tempted to cancel my pre order now knowing what I know, I hate the sound of these plot points so much
@Tha_Likely_Lad They are so hard to avoid man. I was was trying, but you have these ***hats posting spoilers everywhere. Once I was spoiled on one thing, one horrible thing, I went looking for context to see if it was maybe not that bad, and it was getting spun as such.
It was worse than I could have imagined, and it wouldn't be so bad, right, except for one thing. I don't know if you know or not, but for me, I know I'm not going to enjoy around 50 percent of it, so that's a no go obviously.
Sorry that happened. It always sucks. If you do cancel your pre-order you do have the benefit of waiting for a review, watching someone else play, even Share Playing it if you can manage.
@Constable_What it is what it is buddy. Horrible story direction and yes I'm aware of what your on about. I'll probably still buy for the gameplay but it's going to be wierd at the point your on about. Troy Baker was spot on when he said open mind. I get ND is going for shock factor but what they have done appears ridiculous
@Tha_Likely_Lad If you can remember, let me know what you think, hey? The gameplay looks really fantastic, but I don't know if I can stomach that part for that long, no matter how good the gameplay is. If I could get some reassurance that it isn't so bad, I would take the plunge. Haha
I also really loved the multiplayer from the first game. Don't know if it'll be in though... Hm...
Wonder if Troy was trying to warn everyone! Hahaha
@Constable_What no multiplayer sadly buddy, it was confirmed a while back but they may bring stand alone multiplayer at sum point. I really enjoyed the multiplayer as well. Had to play through it for the Plat trophy. I'm still sure the game is going to be fantastic visually and from a gameplay point of view. I find it amusing now that Sony/NG delayed the game because physical copies wouldn't have been available and they may have lost sales. Well now that this leak has happened they will be losing even more sales I would imagine
@Tha_Likely_Lad I think they definitely lost out on a lot of sales, it'll still sell well though I'm sure. Part of me is relieved though. I'd have been really disappointed had I gone in blind and experienced that firsthand.
What were they thinking?... Tsk tsk.
Imo release the game now if it's done
@Akurusu I am thinking if you don't defeat the 'final boss', you get a second ending. There will be no Trophy for either of the endings, you can still platinum the game either way. Fans gets what they want, Naughty Dog gets theirs and not too difficult to implement. Naughty can even run a tally of the number of gamer making each choice. Its a fun way of letting fans have a voice in the game.
@DominatorV93 it actually sounds like sexuality is your only problem with the game. In fact, if you didn’t have a problem with sexuality you would not claim that you don’t want “LGBT and SJW stuff” in your game, you’d be fine with it, excited even, that people that aren’t like you showed up in a game for once and get to share in the limelight with other, non LGBT characters. Also, maybe reflect on why you think this is (in your words) “propaganda” or possibly who you are listening to that told you this was “propaganda” and maybe educate yourself a bit on trans rights and the like, it’s not some big political statement, it’s human beings wanting to live a different life than you, and they deserve to be in video games just as much as Joel does. Peace
@humanbeenz I don't care how it sounds to you.
I know who i am, how i treat people in life, what my ideology is and i keep respecting other peoples life preferences... i don't need you or anyone else to lecture me what i see or hear, nor what i have problems with (unless you want to sound like a pretentious c*nt like you do in your comment).
If it isn't clear from the leaks (if you actually saw the leaks), why this is forced SJW and LGBT politics that ruins the game story, we have nothing else to talk about here.
@DominatorV93 obviously, you do. Otherwise you wouldn’t have answered. Look, I’m not going to stoop down to your level by also calling you an incredibly derogatory term (which I’m guessing you don’t know what the word you used or the word “derogatory” means), in fact I’m just going to continue to feel sorry for you that you say you don’t care, unwilling to change an incredibly toxic perspective out of pure spite. Good luck calling everyone you don’t agree with that term and look how far it will get you, I can already tell it’s nowhere. P.S. I did see the leaks lol I can just come to grips with what I saw unlike you.
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