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We don’t know about you, but it feels like the PS5 has barely broken a sweat yet. Despite being over three years old, the system’s lifespan has been hugely impacted by the pandemic, which has seen its first-party software cadence slow to a crawl and its early years massively affected by hardware shortages. It’s a little odd to hear Sony talk about the system entering the “latter half” of its lifecycle, then.
But, according to Bloomberg, that’s exactly what Senior Vice President Naomi Matsuoka said during the organisation’s recent earnings call. While the new-gen system sold well over the holidays, it failed to meet the manufacturer’s lofty expectations, forcing it to revise its forecast down from 25 million units to 21 million units. It should be noted these are still massively impressive numbers, but obviously missed targets will always be painted as a negative.
“Looking ahead, PS5 will enter the latter half of its life cycle,” Matsuoka said. “As such, we will put more emphasis on the balance between profitability and sales. For this reason, we expect the annual sales pace of PS5 hardware will start falling from the next fiscal year.” In other words, this current period is presumably the platform’s peak, and the firm is predicting a gradual decline from here.
Of course, nothing the manufacturer’s saying here is all that controversial really. It stands to reason there’ll be a gradual slowing of PS5’s sales unless there’s a price cut, and given Sony’s razor-thin margins, it looks like it’s going to focus more on profitability moving forwards. That’ll naturally impede the number of units it ships, which are unlikely to hit these kinds of highs again unless something unexpected happens.
So, the platform holder is communicating sensibly and honestly with its investors, which is what a responsible corporation should do. We know it’s continuing to invest in software for the system, and while longer development times means the cadence of first-party releases hasn’t exactly managed to meet expectations thus far, it’s not like there are a shortage of games to play, is it? The PS5 may be into the second half of its lifespan right now, but that means there’s still a good three or four years of great content still to come.
[source bloomberg.com]
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Probably an unpopular opinion but I wouldn’t mind this generation lasting more than 8 years considering how long we were in the cross-gen period for.
It really doesn't feel like it yet. There's been some good games but I still don't think I've seen a game that taxes the power of the PS5.
I feel like the console hasn't even hit it's stride yet.
This is a 8 year gen we in the fourth year so we half way through.
I think some of the quotes coming out of this earnings call have been misinterpreted a bit and misconstrued.
That said, while I obviously understand exactly what they mean here, it's a bit weird thinking about a system that feels like it's barely got started already being past its half-way point.
“Looking ahead, PS5 will enter the latter stage of its life cycle,”
This statement is completely accurate. It WILL enter the latter stage of its life cycle. Obviously. They didn’t say it IS entering it, just that it WILL.
I’m willing to bet some nuance was lost in translation.
Wasted generation
Making new hardware 3 years after launch that probably should have been the model at launch while making it more expensive to buy the non-disc version now and buy the disc player later than the disc version costs now is not the way to increase sales. Where's the actual $299 Slim that would help w/ sales a bit? Or a $400 Pro? Instead they are busy promoting PS VR2 and Portal, so there's some of their marketing budget. And raising the price of PS+, I'd say dramatically, isn't inspiring people to buy a PS5.
But yeah, PS5 is entering it's later stage, as the primary console, and then it will stick around for another two years as it gets several dual releases w/ PS6. Console gaming is kinda in a screwy death spiral, for real this time.
urgh I hope the PS6 doesn't come too soon, this generation hasn't reached its full potential yet and I don't really want to fork out for a new console.
It sure doesn't feel that way.
It will be 4 years in November. 3 more years and we will see next gen. We probably going to get first next gen leaks in 1.5 year from now. Time just flies, but that's how it is.
I think gaming may be hitting its saturation point. For as big an industry as it is, nothing gets bigger forever. It'll be very interesting to see how well the generation of consoles actually perform.
strange. maybe it is time to drop the msrp price a bit in order to boost sales then? the hardware is at the stage of profitability now so why continue overcharging people in year four, knowing well that sales will soon decline? the point is to keep sales steady and grow the userbase in order to sell more software and generate more revenue. it isn't rocket science. it appears sony wants to have it all at once. yea, sony is so lost right now. the sheer lack of notable current gen games is also hurting hardware sales no doubt. when this console cycle ends and the dust settles, i don't expect many people will place the ps5 in their top 5 consoles of all time list. it might not even make many top 10 lists the rate it is going.
Makes sense each gen except for the PS4 lasted around 6 years.
Why there was NO mention of a new SKU coming up in the next calendar year?
PS5 Pro would definitely extend the life cycle of PS5.
Perhaps Sony did initially plan an 8 year generation, but has come back from that when they found out MS is going for a 6 year one?
After this year is the midpoint, so I don't get why people are suprised. Yeah events happened that misconstrued time.
Also cost reductions like in the past with smaller nanometer chips is out of the question.. where PS3 went from 90 to 45. PS5 is basically already at 6.. diminishing returns. Though they have to manage selling it for around 300 to keep momentum at a certain point.
Whatever time the PS5 has left I’m not being conned twice.
I won’t be buying a PS6 at all until cross-releases stop.
Can’t believe how long we’ve been cheated with games that are prohibited by old technology.
Seeing they’re worried about budgets and development time for their games, I’m not entirely sure how replacing the PS5 for something more powerful in 3-4 years will solve the problem?
I, for one, think that the new PS is far away.
I don't interpret the sentence "Looking ahead, PS5 will enter the latter stage of its life cycle" as something that is happening now. Next fiscal year is March, but for me we are only one-third into the life cycle before an incremental upgrade (they don't deserve the moniker 'next gen' right now).
For the average consumer, the power and possibility of PS5 hasn't been realised and I certainly won't invest in next-gen if this was how the PS5-era played out. I am more likely to upgrade my quite old TV for an LG or something.
Sure, there are partnerships with chip-providers but these can be adjusted, I would guess. Do they truly care if they have to provide current-gen chipsets for a couple of years more?
I honestly think this generation will only last 6 years, the PS6 will release in 2026 Holiday season and there will not be a PS5 Pro.
@get2sammyb especially the part where sony talks about no major existing franchise releasing before 2024.
Could be they just release a few new games before that.
Like the space shooter and the bungie (unreal game).
@itsfoz
I completely agree.
As much as I love my PS5 if there's one thing I've learnt from it's launch is that there wasn't really any need to dash out and get one straight away.
I've always been first in the queue whenever Sony or Nintendo launch a new console because I wanted to be able to play the latest games.
However if all the games are going to release as cross gen it kind of takes away that special new console feeling.
I get the argument of the last gen having a large install base that's too big to ignore and developers needed to see a return on their investments, but at the same time those of us who have paid out all that money on a shiny new console need to be rewarded for doing that.
As you said, I feel cheated.
Every time I see a game launching on PS4 & PS5 it really makes my blood boil
I still see PS5 as a flop. We are in half lifetime and except FF16 there is nothing you cannot play also on PS4.
PS5 is that "electric car". It looks different (design), unfinished (UI, themes, folders), is quiet and has some interresting gadgets (trophy tracking, playtime count), BUT it is car as other, you cannot go faster because of traffic (games optimized for PS4), and it still eats your wallet (expensive games, constant controller charging) and those gadgets are not that good or doesn't work properly.
We’ve had like 5 PS5 exclusives that haven’t also come out on PS4, so I hope it’s still got a few years left in it.
Not sure what commenters on here are getting so upset about. PS5 came out in November 2020, meaning it's over 3 years old, and will be hitting its 4 year anniversary later on. Which ever way you cut it, it is coming up to the midway point in its life cycle.
Personally, I've had a great time with it over that period. Yes, there should have been more PS5 only games, but there is a good number: Ratchet and Clank, Returnal, Spiderman 2 etc. Plus, cross-gen games usually run at higher frame rates and resolution.
Even so, I can't wait for a new iteration - PS5 Pro or PS6. Four years is a long time in technology terms, and many people don't bat an eyelid at spending at least the price of a games console on a new phone much more frequently. The PS5 will still be supported for many years to come, but for those who can afford it, a new machine that supports at least 60fps and 4K on all games as standard can't come soon enough.
People should look forward to cross-gen being normalized if they're going to keep upgrading hardware whilst games are taken longer to develop. You're talking about latter stages when ND haven't even released a single new game. Don't go early adopting PS6 thinking it won't be flooded with cross-gen games with PS5. @TrickyDicky99 brace yourself.
@djlard I get being disappointed with the amount of games that are designed to get the most out of the PS5, but why open a post with such a blatant false statement like "except FF16 there is nothing you cannot play also on PS4"?
Everyone, including yourself, knows this is simply not accurate, so what are you trying to achieve with that?
No. I wouldnt be buying into a new generation at launch when this one hasnt felt like its got started yet. This is like Sony trying to align a traditional console life cycle but not reacting to the new reality of game development. Normally a console would be hitting its stride at this point, but this isnt normal times.
Given the economic climate and the fact we seem to be hitting a limit on graphical fidelity, it feels way too soon to think about a transition. Particularly given how game development costs have balooned and developers are losing their jobs at an unprecidented rate. To even consider a theoretical PS6 seems wrong.
Maybe i'll feel differently in 4 years time, but i just think this gen has so much more to give
@ATaco couldn’t agree with you more! The PS5 has been held back in the AAA department making versions for PS4 (God of war, GT7, Spiderman). It’s only now it can stretch its legs so see the machine lasting until 2030.
@Member_the_game feel the same and cross gen needs to stop! Use the power of the machine or just make games for PS4 full stop!
@rjejr
I assure you, as an owner of both, that they have spent pretty much nothing marketing PSVR2 and Portal (both phenomenal additions by the way). Nothing like they deserve anyway.
And don’t expect any significant price cuts, for what it is, the cost is already incredibly low with likely for smaller profit margins than at this stage of the PS3 or 4 lifecycle.
The console will be four years old by the end of this year, so yes, it will probably be in the second half of its life cycle. The wording on this is always a bit tricky, because inevitably there will be people that read it as the PS5 ending next year.
@dskatter Exactly.
The console is just barely over 3 years old, there's no way it has reached the half point yet.
Typically a PlayStation console lifecycle is 10 years, with a 3 year overlap period between the new old and the old one.
That's a dumb statement that would have been better left unsaid, to be honest. Neither PS5 nor Series X are anywhere near their potential being tapped, partly due to the pandemic and partly due to overly long crossgen support.
If this is going to continue then we need a decade long generation to make up for it, because as a PS5/Series X owner I'm noticing more and more that I'm still playing mostly last gen games; the few current gen only titles I do have aren't a particularly massive leap forward in terms of visuals or gameplay.
It's really underwhelming, like we're still stuck in the first year of release, not that this is the fourth year. The release schedule for big Sony first and second party games is pretty bare this year, which seems disappointing after a year where the last quarter brought some great mostly third party releases, a revised Slim model, the foolish Portal, and the woefully undersupported to the point of "why did they bother" PSVR2. All this hardware is starting to look like a profit-geneating smokescreen to help distract from what an underwhelming generation it is.
Maybe that's why people aren't buying it, from the point of view of the layperson there's "nothing to play"
@MrGawain Maybe the power gap is rather minimal kind of like the power gap between Wii U and Switch. Wii's gigantic success resulted in PS Move and Kinect and the Switch is even bigger than the Wii so maybe PS6 is essentially a hybrid PS5.
Moving away from power focus given that it's not helping the release schedule.
If this generation is anything to go by, I won’t be buying a PS6 until a few years into the next generation as I imagine the early ps6 games will be cross gen with PS5! If that’s the case, I would imagine the games to look a lot better than they do right now, because up until now there has hardly been a game that has even slightly pushed the PS5 to any kind of limits.
@Luigia
Definitely..... although I didn't like it at the time I could just about accept it at the start, maybe upto about 6 months into the cross over period.
But there is absolutely no excuse for it to still be happening now over 3 years down the line
@Grumblevolcano More than that, the power that is there isn't really being used. There aren't really any games that push the console fully to it's limits, and those that look like they do because they drop frames are usually just poorly optimised. You see the odd game getting there like Avatar, but overall there's no wow factor on most games.
@TrickyDicky99
That would be funny. If Microsoft made the s and x completely obsolete so soon that would be the death of Xbox as a serious hardware platform
Hmmmm…. PS6 in 3/4 years time? Nope. Could be the first time I’m not excited for a new gen console. PS5 nowhere near pushed, so what quantum leap is gonna happen to push PS6? And considering how it takes to make games for PS5, the PS6 gen will be over before any games are made.
Like a few others on this site have said, this is possibly my last gen gaming.
@djlard Demons souls, Rift Apart, Returnal, Spiderman 2 weren’t on PS4. Outside of first party you have games like BG3, Alan wake 2, Tekken 8 and loads more. I get your point but to say FF16 is the only game not appearing on PS4 is just not true, particularly over the last 12 months.
There are barely any games that actually push the PlayStation 5 I think it will be around for a bit longer yet like the PlayStation 3 era I certainly wouldn't buy a PlayStation 6 for at least another five or six years until I've got my money's worth out of the PlayStation 5
I think this needs to be a longer Gen for two reasons - 1) The console was not readily available for a good 2 years for the average consumer. Thus for a lot of people, this last year is probably when they got their console at full price with minimal reductions.
2) Game dev cycles are so long that they are now close to exceeding console cycles. If we ignore remasters, Naughty Dog put out what, 5 + titles in the PS3, 4 on PS4 and we are now halfway through the gen and they have released... 0? More than likely we may only get one title. Similar for Sucker Punch, 3 titles on PS3, 3 on PS4 and so far on PS5... 0?
@Grumblevolcano
I guess the current argument is the next generation are playing on phones and tablets, and the games they play like fortnite aren't graphically intensive.
I wonder if the play for Sony is to go Switch style portable console? Because there is no reason to release another console at a loss if Sony can't make a profit on games.
I have a feeling that the PS5 pro may be scrapped and they may push the PS6 forward to 2026.
With no real prospect of a price reduction in site, the PS5 will fail to clear 70 millions units and sales will fall off sharply now.
This won't look good for investor relations and the easiest remedy is a brand new console for players to get excited about which can be priced a bit higher.
Well it's almost 4 years old. Most generations are 8 years. First 4 years = early half of life cycle. Last 4 years = latter half.
Cross gen period for PS5 was too long in everyone's opinion. This won't stop in PS5 to PS6 launch. PS5 will get many cross gen games. As consoles get more powerful and are based on similar GPU architecture, with the majority difference between gens being clock speeds and number of CPU cores and CUs, the compatibility between each generation will increase and we get situations where games can run on both gens with the only difference being lower quality settings. Console gaming is going to be an expensive cage in the future, as they become more and more similar to PCs.
Ps5 hardware is already underpowered at this point. Otherwise there wouldn't have been the silly option to chose between "quality" and "performance".
Midlife crisis! Panic!
@jFug either that or the cross-gen period of PS6 should be even longer than what we had (or still have?) for PS5. I'd prefer your option, 2028, but with next-gen PS6 games right off the bat with little to no cross-gen.
@ZhuckelDror I've always believed it doesn't matter how powerful a console is, you'll always have studios prioritizing graphics over performance. Even if the PS5 was twice as powerful, you'd still see that choice in many games, just at a higher level.
Still feels like the PS5 has barely warmed up to me, regardless of when it was actually released. If we are looking at PS6 in around two years’ time that’s me done.
I have no desire to chase the next new and shiny console when there’ll barely be any time to enjoy it before the next one is out.
@Ainu20
Yet this is the fist generation to have this.
@michaelf
Your math is wrong.
@ZhuckelDror well that’s a constructive reply.
There’s been discussions of a potential PS6 in 2026 or 2028. So ‘around’ two years is a reasonable descriptor for the earliest suggestion.
My maths is fine.
@michaelf
None of this has anything to do with the official statement from Sony though. All they've said is that this year PS5 will reach the approximate middle point of its life cycle. Which is totally true.
@ZhuckelDror Technically the second half of last is where it started, but you are right. However, before that, it was often simply 30 fps (or worse) for a lot of the games, which isn't exactly better.
The point is, the choice between performance or graphics is always there, no matter the hardware. The devs used to make that choice for us (on consoles), at least now we get to make it.
DOH silly me thinking sony would give a damn about their customers who have bought hardware and continue to buy software, it turns out they don't actually care about providing for said devices, they only care about shifting them, I mean as if that wasn't obvious from how they treat certain devices, psvr etc , fine!, i heard you loud and clear! I will avoid PS6 like the plague!
@Dampsponge Yeah I have a huge backlog already, but most of those are ps4 games, at the moment i'm playing a lot of forbidden west which was out aaaages ago and yet looks and runs amazingly, I can't see why I would spend more money on another console in general with how capable and quiet it is,
Feels like the gen has barely started, thanks to all the damn remasters, remakes and cross-gen games...
I hope the next gen, doesn't pull this s**t again.
Been playing more and more PS2 and PS3 games lately.
This generation feels like a rip off, we are still getting cross generation games and now we are entering the end game of the system? PS5 will be the most underutilized system in PlayStation's history!
@Tecinthebrain
Agree on this. As an early adopter (got my PS5 around 4.5 months after the release) I must say I've been mostly disappointed with it and could've still be playing games on PS4 at this point. Basically none of the pure ps5 games released in the last two years interest me. Spider Man 2 is just an inferior copy paste of Batman Arkham games, Ragnarok is just a slightly upgraded version of 2018 reboot which itself wasn't that good since it has changed core mechanics of the first games, Forbidden West is a step down from Zero Dawn which I found also kinda mediocre.
Oh, should I mention that the last two games still used movable crates as a puzzle mechanic in 2022? Laughable.
Been using the SSD 4 Pro a lot more that the fatty recently. Some games don't emulate the DS4 properly and the PS5 games we can be bothered to own are scant to say the least.
5's UI is still miserable and incomplete compared to the old stager.
Begins to make me wonder if the PS4 will out last the PS5.
I think a PS5 Pro wouldn't sell too well in 2024. The PS5 isn't flexing all that much.
A DLSS and Frame gen like refresh might do well with hardcore gamers but a casual gamer might not look too hard at it. What they might look at is a smaller footprint, longer dualsense battery and higher base storage. But still feels a bit too early for all that.
2025 seems to be the smarter year to deploy this idea. The existing console has only been readily available in stores for a year or so...
They are greedy idiots. They SHOULD sell the console at a loss to make the money back from selling games, even 3rd party games make them a lot of money. People very much want to buy a PS5, but not at 550€.
For me I feel like I'll just keep my ps 5 until ps7 is released. I just don't see any point in my buying a ps6.
I'll be able to play most ps6 games on my ps5 until about half way through the life cycle.
Then when the ps7 is released I'll only have a handful of proper ps6 exclusives to catch up on.
We're seeing the increasingly inflated AAA production cycle coming to odds with the typical console life cycle. I don't think it's terribly realistic to expect them to wait longer to release new hardware to accommodate this either.
@PoeticJustice
The hardcore gamer audience is on PC.
Yesterday: Sony says we aren't making any 1st party games for over a year.
Me: better finish my games and sell the PS5 before PS5 Pro comes out
Today: Sony says PS5 entering latter half of it's life cycle
Me : fffffff no resale price 10 pence in Cex
And it's not even out of warranty!
Freakin' funny. I think I can count the PS5 exclusives with my hands.
@Member_the_game couldn’t agree more. Now when I hear a PS5 game is cross gen it err.. makes me cross 😜🤣
Maybe it's time to treat consoles like you treat your phone. Upgrade it when it gets old and not chase the most shiny version. Your phone now has a selling point that it will receive support for however many years. This needs to happen with more devices (laptops, tablets and consoles).
I can't imagine it actually happening, but it would be for everyone's benefit if Sony and Microsoft agreed to slow down a bit. This race to the top is bankrupting companies and putting people out of work fast. I'd really like a more sustainable approach taken in general, and for studios to focus on making great games on a more affordable budgets, a bit like Nintendo.
Maybe joining forces with hardware and focusing on software really would be the answer. The competition should be in the games being made and released and not the boxes we play them on.
PS5 came out in 2020, it will be four years old this fall, a console’s main life is 7-8 years, so that isn’t incorrect. And usually the best stuff comes out in the second half, so not too worried.
Well with the Sony president announcement that Sony is going multiplatform with it's first party games it's going to make Microsoft business podcast even spicier.
Either way selling games keeps both companies running. Not selling them, doesn't look too good.
Watch us get the PS6 only to play PS5 games on it smh
@rjejr Yup, consoles are forsure dying because one of the 3 major console manufacturers was 4 million off their projected sales target 🙄 If anything nuance is dying
@GeeEssEff Demon Souls is PS3 game...
Yes, I forgot word "almost". And you also see it can be counted on one hand, is that enough to consider buying new console? I think hardly...
@Ainu20 Yes, I forgot word "almost". And if you look at past generations, number of games tailored on PS5 in half of it's lifespan was available on past generations on day one. No one cannot clearly say PS5 had rushed, unfinished release.
@Tchunga Nintendo stopped making consoles, Switch is a portable w/ TV out, I know I own 2 while waiting for them to make a console version, and Xbox Series is selling so well MS is shouting from the rooftops how many they've been selling. PS5 will likely sell nearly as many as PS4 but overall yes I do see the decline coming starting this gen and getting worse next gen. Just don't see the need for consoles as handhelds get more powerful. If your phone could wirelessly play PS5 quality games on your tv would you buy a console as well as a phone?
Consoles may be able to do 8k next gen but if people only have 4k tvs then a phone capable of doing 4k will suffice. Look how many people buy a Switch that can barely do 1080p. Technology marches forward, and the games go with it, a land of free to start mobile games.😝
@thefourfoldroot1 " pretty much nothing marketing PSVR2 and Portal "
Well they must have spent something, got you to buy them both. 😉 And I know the PS5 probably can;t be any cheaper but there are probably people looking at the console price and the game exclusives thinking "maybe I'll wait for a sale" which they aren;t getting.
@Octane You still hanging around, thought you were done.😁 Next month will be 10 years for you commenting on here, so congrats I guess.🍻
@rjejr Yeah sorry, but I'm not really interested in whether or not you consider the Switch to be a console, your opinion on that matter is completely irrelevant. Even Nintendo themselves consider the Switch to be a hybrid console. But what is relevant though is that the Switch (despite however you wish to classify it) is a massive commercial and financial success. It has outsold pretty much every Nintendo console be it handheld or otherwise. With of course the exception of the Nintendo DS. Which, when all is said and done, It might even outsell that as well. Meanwhile the PS5 is selling about on par with the PS4 and is nothing to scoff at and Xbox is well, Xbox. They don't really reveal sales figures and that isnt really a good sign but the fact they don't just bounce out of the console market entirely means it must be somewhat of a success, even if only a minor one. But at the end of the day if you wish to view the console market as "dying" then I guess its your prerogative to do so. Just dont expect me or many others to hop on board
@rjejr
PS5 isn't even really capable of real 4K resolution, what next gen 8K are you talking about?
@djlard maybe for you but I’m very happy with my day one PS5. Anyone who expected Sony to just drop the PS4 the moment the 5 was released was being unrealistic. And some of my favourite games from this gen were released on both….GOW Ragnorok, Elden Ring, Gran turismo 7, Horizon FW (which I personally think is the best looking game I have ever played, it definitely didn’t feel like it was being held back). If you sit there being bitter because PS4 players are playing the same games as you then you are not going to enjoy the console. Why not just play the incredible games instead of panicking about whether the developer has squeezed every last teraflop out of the development process?
I have mixed feeling about PS5.
One hand, it is a great console, I tried ps extra for a year and I had a good time catching up a little bit with gaming.
It bothers me all the next gen speculations and rumours. I try ignoring them but I constantly bombarded with those 'articles '.
I don't feel PS5 got its full potential. I start to think it won't deliver its potential.
For my casual gaming, I would be better off with a ps4 and some extra accessories for less.
Right now I doubt I want to invest to the next gen console. I refuse to buy 2-3 more gaming console/platform to 'cover' the gaming market.
I think I am just getting older 😀 and seeing pc world as the best option for me ( since it gave me a little bit of everything on one machine: gaming, work related, entertainment).
I wonder how others feel about this. Certainly you have different opinion if you had many past consoles. But I would love to hear it.
Deep down I would like to change my attitude to something positive 😀 I just can't turt my mood around.
This is crazy, the ps5 might as well have been called the ps4 pro 2. What a scam this generation has been. They will pay for this with their ps6 sales, people won't be fooled again
You know this basically means that the hardware is definetly gonna fall apart and force you to buy the new console
@GeeEssEff I just wanted to say I could stay on PS4. The only advantage of PS5 is loading times, the rest is a bit downgrade...
@djlard I mean I can understand you being a bit disappointed with the PS5 overall but calling it a downgrade is just being over dramatic.
It's hard to believe that the ps5 pro needs to be a thing. That means we've already seen the full potential of a base ps5. If that's the case then I'm not all that impressed.
@GeeEssEff Trust me, it isn't. No folders, no media player, no browser (easily opened), no CD player, low batteries in controller... should I continue? PS5 saved the day only by PS4 games compatibility, otherwise it would be disaster.
@djlard Ahh yes all the reasons I bought a PS5….to stare at folders. Play the CDs I no longer own because Spotify exists. Browse the internet in the least convenient way possible…are you currently reading this on a phone/laptop or have you fired up the PS4 because you just love trying to navigate the web with a controller? Not entirely sure how I can sarcastically respond to the media player bit because I dunno what you mean tbh…it plays blu rays and it has most of the apps like YouTube, Netflix etc. what media do you want?!? Yes controller battery is bad but extra long USB cables are available for cheap and it’s the trade off for having the extra bells and whistles.
It sounds like you want a PC not a games console. It also sounds like you just want to whinge for the sake of whinging.
@rjejr I still try to keep up with the news, so I'm on here from time to time, but life's busy so not on a daily basis. And I haven't played a proper game in months hah.
@Octane " I haven't played a proper game "
That Candy Crush addiction is nothing to be ashamed of. 😉
@GeeEssEff OK, I have a taste to play... ohh I have to browse my 230+ games library to find THAT game. I found it... but I like to listen to my favorite music... ohh it is not on Spotify, nevermind I have it on flash in mp3... ohh it cannot be played, because no media player, nevermind I have it on CD and PS5 have mechanic... ohh it hasn't any CD player...
Don't know how more explain PS4 could do ALL of this and there is no reason why PS5 cannot but still can't.
@ZhuckelDror well, gaming on even the most powerful gaming pc's (which cost 4X the price of the ps5) have limits and their own graphics settings to content with... a top of the line rig will have to make some compromises after it is 12 months old.. you can't simply max out pc games for the rest of your life. thus, quality and performance settings also apply to high end pc's and is not a fault with the ps5 being "outdated". that is just the nature of tech and shows how misguided consumers and publishers are these days with their emphasis on graphics over good gameplay mechanics. this is a vicious cycle with a bad ending.
@jFug that is not unpopular in the least and would be inline with the life cycles of the ps3 and ps4. anyone who says otherwise is clearly a tech enthusiast and not a gamer seeing how this console cycle has barely even begun.
@Porco
>will have to make some compromises after it is 12 months old..
That's just plain wrong. If you build a true no expense spent PC rig it will last at least 4 years with 0 upgrades needed.
The days with PC exclusive graphics intensive games a-la Crysis and F.E.A.R. are long gone and the vast majority of big games still caters to the weakest denominator which are the consoles.
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