For years now, Sony has been criticised for its supposedly samey first-party software. You’ve probably seen that meme circulating on social media, which shows a trio of trees from God of War, The Last of Us, and Days Gone. It’s nonsense, of course, how do you even make different looking trees? But it obviously represents an underlying sentiment: that PlayStation’s exclusives all look and feel the same, with overly serious storylines and hyper-realistic visuals.
This Christmas, though, there’ll be none of that – and if you’ve ever been critical of the organisation’s output, this is a good opportunity to put up and shut up. Astro Bot is leading the way, of course: a charming platformer with pin-point controls, colourful visuals, and ear-worm audio. If it’s anything like previous entries, this will be straight out of the Nintendo playbook: whimsical, inventive from start-to-finish, and above all else fun.
We’ve already seen some corners of the web criticising the release’s price point, like platformers should inherently cost less than the latest first-person shooter or action adventure. While it’s ultimately up to you where you spend your hard-earned readies, it’s perhaps worth remembering there’s a reason Sony’s become known for its Sad Dad Sims: they bring home the bacon, and justify their exorbitant investment ten-fold. If you want more Astro Bot than angst, make sure the firm knows.
It's not the only light-hearted game the company’s got cooking this Christmas, by the way: LEGO Horizon Adventures may be inspired by a franchise that subscribes to a more familiar Sony schematic, but it’s clear Guerrilla and its development partners are having a lot of fun here. Voice actress Ashly Burch is having the time of her life making protagonist Aloy as silly as possible, and even the graphics – made up entirely of Denmark’s most famous toy-based export – are delightfully light-hearted.
This is Sony targeting families for once, something it hasn’t really done since the Buzz years – one-off titles like Sackboy: A Big Adventure and perhaps the odd Ratchet & Clank aside. It’s the type of title that, once again, those fed up of PlayStation’s self-serious escapades should be lining up for; you’re not going to get a new Sly Cooper or Jak & Daxter if you don’t show up for these.
Obviously, we’re not encouraging you to cough up your cash just on the off-chance of it helping to greenlight something else, but for all those who’ve lost interest in Sony’s output, this year’s holiday lineup is clearly looking to buck the trend. This is a great opportunity to put your money where your mouth is: if you feel PlayStation’s first-party output has been getting stale and samey, then it’s genuinely got something different on the docket this time. But, at the end of the day, there’ll only be more like this if these titles succeed.
Are you looking forward to Sony’s first-party games this holiday? Are you happy to see the platform holder push a different type of title for a change? How do you think the likes of Astro Bot and LEGO Horizon Adventures will perform? Take yourself less seriously in the comments section below.
Which games will you be buying? (1,819 votes)
- Astro Bot
- LEGO Horizon Adventures
- Both of them
- None of them
- I'm not sure yet
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I mean, there’s two games. Less of a pivot and more that they have literally nothing else. Astro Bot looks great though.
"Sad dad sims" LMAO!
That's a tough ask for some, I'm sure they will find something else to moan about instead.
I'm definitely looking forward to Astro Bot more but I will also pick up Lego Horizon day one and hopefully it will be my first Lego game that I complete.
I will probably purchase both of these. But since I don't intend to cough up the full price for standard physical editions I won't immediately play, I'll wait for a sale or a sub-20€ price on the second hand market.
Come on Sammy your asking to much these are the same people that gave Sony crap for putting a spotlight on indie games and then later got mad because they stopped.
Am I the only one excited by Lego Horizon? Not seeing much chatter about it but I thought it looked great.
I will also be getting Astrobot even though (whisper it) Astro's Playroom was a tad overrated.
I’m not sick of them, give me more sad dad… now!
Astro looks great and I was surprised by how much i enjoyed the Lego Horizon trailer.
I want both of these types of games & more from Sony! A new Fumito Ueda game? Give it, give it now!
What I truly miss are the riskier titles, Journey, Fat Princess etc. Those days are long gone and not just for Sony, it seems nobody want's these titles in their portfolio anymore which I find kind of depressing.
Ill buy Astro for sure, but I'm keen to see what the big studios are working on and I am becoming a little impatient now.
C'mon Sony, win me over again. You're losing me a little over here and I've been a diehard from the beginning.
Thank you for posting this. I've been saying this for a while like a large amount of people who complained about the shutting of Japan Studio never actually bought and supported their games. I did so I and other fans can complain it's like all those people who constantly slagged off Days Gone calling it generic trash and didn't buy it were the ones complaining when Sony didn't green light a sequel because they bought it way after it actually mattered and discovered wow this game is actually great like well you don't get to complain you didn't support it when it mattered. Like I bought Sly 4 day one back in the day did you? I got Rift Apart day one. I completely agree with the sentiment it's time to put your money where your mouth is everyone that's what matters
I wanna buy it a launch, but I also don't wanna buy it at launch and then have pc port that will probably have mods at some point launch later.
Plenty of great games failed, so I agree with you, Sammy.
Sackboy should have been a success
Ratchet & Clank should have sold a ton of copies
Tearaway should have won every award and sold millions of copies.
And the list goes on. At the end of the day, though, most people buy the same games. The loud minority likes to complain but they hardly ever put their money where their mouth is. There is no pleasing them. They'd lose their entire identity.
Well said! i'm gonna buy Astrobot D1, one of my most hyped game for the end of the year.
About LEGO Horizon i'm gonna buy it at half price, expecially because i have no one to play with
Astro Bot all the way. A very easy day 1 buy for me. Lego Horizon on the other hand...I'm sorry I'm just not into it.😄
I've also never liked the argument that all PS's exclusives look the same. In TLOU you have a gun. In GOW you got swords and axes. How are those the same gameplay experience?
Sad dad sim has a special place in my heart.
@Czar_Khastik great plan (the second one). They will fail to sell well enough and then we'll get more of the same.
@Ooccoo_Jr
No, you are not. I love Lego games and I love Lego. However, I am more excited to see what real-world Lego sets come out of this to go with my Tallneck set.
I will say that this world looks to be made completely of Lego, unlike the more recent Lego games with a pre-rendered backdrop of real-looking things filled with Lego models.
Astro Bot is definitely a game anyone can like and looks like there's variety by the mile, day one! That's the opposite of LEGO Horizon to me which frankly looks, sounds and plays like every LEGO game ever made.
I already pre-ordered Astro Bot.
I'm not overly interested in LEGO Horizon - but I am glad it exists as sometimes it's just nice to do something a little different with established IPs.
@MikeOrator That Tallneck set was beautiful wasn't it, I almost got it and I've never played a Horizon game. After this and the Lego Deku Tree set they have just announced I am dreaming of a Lego Zelda game next but I can't ever see Nintendo allowing that to happen unfortunately.
@Keyblade-Dan yup the Insomniac sales leaks were eye opening to how poorly Japan Studio games sold.
Also I do think this year itself, Playstation has used their second party output to cater to different types of action games.
I think they want to go beyond that kind of gameplay but need to slowly retrain their audiences to move on from that as well.
I don't typically pre-order any games or buy them full price (both because you get a better price and the game is in better shape), but I had to vote with my wallet on this one and I pre-ordered. I love Astro Bot and want more.
I'll be getting Astro 100%, but I'm not super interested in Lego games but I may get the Lego Horizon game since I love Horizon so much.
Sadder the dad the happier I am.
I happen to like Sad Dad Sims....
Platformers aren't my thing, but I do love me a good LEGO game, so I'll definitely give that a look when it arrives
Astro Bot is the first game I've pre-ordered since the PS3 days!
Astro allready pre-ordered
I'm doing my part! Astro Deluxe preordered on PSN. Also forget Premium, I'm buying Sly Cooper ASAP.
Definitely part of the Astro Bot fanclub, will be there day one! As for LEGO Horizon well... no thanks I'll pass 😅 I like real LEGO but the games usually all play the same with the same humor.
I never said i was sick of sad dads, but I appreciate the variety. I'll be buying both Astro Bot and Lego Horizon. The both look delightful.
I will get Astro Bot since i pre-ordered it on the day the pre-orders were open (and i will get the digital deluxe edition later), but i have not decided if i will get LEGO Horizon but it looks fun.
From a sales perspective, i'm sure Astro Bot will succeed because it's already #1 on Amazon in multiple regions, and I have a feeling Sony will market the game well since they featured Astro Bot in the Days of Play campaign before the game was officially announced.
But LEGO Horizon will prolly sell more since it's also on the Switch.
I've never really understood that argument. Sony's studios do the more mature narrative games very well so of course they're gonna focus on those. But there's no reason why Astro Bot and Lego Horizon can't coexist with God of War and TLOU. It doesn't have to be one type or the other. I'm glad they're doing more games like this(will be buying both) but I also don't want them to do a hard shift either. Balance is nice.
@Ooccoo_Jr I can see that happening, especially around the time of the movie. Nintendo is still working to broaden Zelda's appeal, after all.
They can even bring back full mumbles! Lean more into collectathon LEGO games and have a fully explorable Hyrule.
So let me get this straight. in order for Sony to be less repetitive, pigeon holed, tone deaf, formulaic, and greed driven I have to buy a lame Lego game and and a Sony advertisement disguised as a platformer?
There is a lot of space between the samey suite of games Sony has funneled themselves into and these two childish endeavors. A multitude of genres and gameplay styles. I'm not buying the kids games just in the hopes that it produces more diversity. I just won't buy a Sony game period, unless it actually looks good, fresh, and less repetitive. The sequel factories have got to stop.
Sony was once a platform with a huge library of diverse games. It's on Sony to see value in that again. Instead of the safe, samey bloated budget and live service focused stuff they are doing now.
I do agree with the sentiment that Sony could use more variety in their games. However, all of their games aren't 'Sad dad sims', that moniker only gets put on The Last of Us and God of War. Spider-Man, Uncharted, Returnal, Days Gone, Ratchet & Clank, Horizon, Stellar Blade, Rise of the Ronin, Final Fantasy aren't sad dad sims. I'd like to see Sony get more FPS games and more fun games like Astro Bot.
@Ooccoo_Jr I'm with you. Planning on picking it up to play Co op with the wife.
PS5's Sad Dad Sims.....lol
It’s great we have Astro and Lego Horizons, absolutely spot on.
It just helps if there was just one big Sony Studio AAA Campaign game to release along side them this fall.
Not nothing at all, because they wasted and mismanaged resources.
Remember we are talking probably over a whole year before we get anything from them.
Remember the trash Xbox got for doing this a couple of years ago.
Spot on with the article. Money is the only language these companies undersfand. If Astro doesn't sell well, other platformers are unlikely to be greenlit
@Ooccoo_Jr
Can you imagine a Lego Zelda game released on Switch and PS5...lol...
Why should a platformer cost less?
Surely the only thing that matters is development costs - and Astro clearly looks very good, plus its £10 cheaper than full price, so im happy.
(Another vote for NOT tired of Sony 3rd party adventure games - I wish they would do more in fact).
@RicketerCricketer: As Sea of Thieves becomes PlayStation's best seller....lol
Definitely getting Astro Bot. I don't usually buy platformers anymore unless it's 3d Mario. But Astro's Playroom managed to give me a fantastic experience on par with those Mario games and it was free. Can't wait for a more full, meatier experience
Lego horizon on the other hand, I just don't really like Lego games as much anymore and horizon isnt exactly one of my favorite ips. Maybe on a sale
@RicketerCricketer Selling like crazy...I guess that's how much PlayStation gamers are begging for Xbox wide variety of games....even this article say it.
I pre-ordered Astro Bot as soon as it came out. However, I don't particularly like Horizon or lego games so I won't just be buying it to prove a point! (Not least because I actually have no problem with 'sad dad' games)
One thing I'd love to see get some rep and yes a new studio would probably be needed for such things is some good old fashioned J-Horror like Project Zero and Siren please for the love of god give me some J-Horror 🙏 there's not nearly enough of it in video games
Astro Bot looks like the most exciting Sony game in the last half decade. One of the few games I will get day 1. As the article states, this is EXACTLY the type of game I missed from Sony. I really can't wait!
What do we want?
Isometric RPGs with pre-rendered backgrounds!
When do we want them?
Every couple of years is fine, I’m actually pretty busy!
The thing is that 90% of people here including me at Push Square are going to buy Astro Bot. But we're a niche group and nowadays games like Astro Bot are niche games. The responsibility is on Sony to manage their expectations and not want these games to sell like God of War or TLoU.
Won't be paying 70 for kid games
Seems I was right 🙄
I’m definitely in for Astro, Lego horizon is a maybe, probably if it’s discounted.
Well said.
I don't care for the Lego games, and think Horizon is overrated, but Astro Bot could be a sleeper GOTY contender if the pack-in game is anything to go by.
I don't understand how a traditional playstation fan isn't completely pumped for the game. It's a Playstation celebration effectively.
I don’t get the “sad dad sims” thing. Sounds more like those - drive a car in the woods - indie games than GOW or TLOU. I mean I’m a sad dad and neither of those is even remotely close to a sim of my life. I will admit to thinking Sony had a “type” w/ the Uncharted look, single player 3rd person adventure games, but “sad dad sim”? Really. 😝
I was really looking forward to Astrobot until Lego Horizon showed up w/ its couch co-op, so I’ll wait to buy Lego instead, borrow Astrobot from the library, probably no more than a 10 hour game I’ll only play thru once. Unless they add co-op, then I’ll buy it.
bring me more sad dads plz
@naruball That's true. If you don't support the studio by purchasing their games, there is no moving forward for them.
On the other hand, my backlog is so large that if the gaming industry stopped creating games today I would have enough things to play for the rest of my life. Then again, I'm a sucker for deluxe editions with artbooks/steelbooks so these standard editions just don't it for me (unless, as I said, I plan to play them day 1)
Playstation definitely has got an identity issue.
There always seems to be a majority amount of the player base that complains.
@Pat_trick
I think You are missing one important thing. Every PS5 owner - 60 million people, allready has a chance to try Astro, and make own opinion whatever they like it and want more or not.
Preordered AstroBot already, not touching Lego Horizon though. Can’t wait for Astro!
@RicketerCricketer haha. I know, right? As soon as I read someone's comment, I thought, "thanks for proving my point, I guess?"
@AllStarGamer
Good thing no?
All Xbox games come to the most popular platform. Everyone's happy
@Prime_Objective I still stand by my opinion. The PS5 is not seem as a platformer console and nowadays Mario is the only platformer that sells on the same level as an Open World action game. But tbh, I do hope you're right and I'm wrong on this one.
@Czar_Khastik "On the other hand, my backlog is so large that if the gaming industry stopped creating games today I would have enough things to play for the rest of my life".
Same here, man. I have hundreds of games that I'm genuinely interested in and, even though I know that there is no way I'll get the time to play them all, I still feel like supporting some new releases. But, like you, I wait for a sale, since I can't afford them day 1.
@Hi569 so, will you be paying 30 for kids games?
I'm now waiting to see if they'll have the courage to make a Lego PlayStation Heroes game with Ratchet, Clank, Sly & Co, and Jak and Daxter.
We can't just have PS3's "PlayStation Move Heroes" be the only game where the 3 mascots team up! xD
Hmm, I don't understand the hype for Astrobot. I couldn't complete the first game for motion sickness and the free game that came with the PS5...meh, my 3 year old child enjoyed it. I enjoy a decent Mario platformer so could pick up Astrobot in a sale or something.
Horizon Lego okay, might pick it up on the Switch - but with the backlog I have, unlikely.
I won't rule out Lego horizon as need to see more but I've long since got bored of the Lego game formula so would need to see if it deviates enough from it.
Astro bot is day one though (100% play through of play room was done again in Saturday. Pure joy that game)
Horizon is one of my fave PlayStation franchises overall, so why wouldn't I look forward to its first entry to go properly portable out of the blue? The Switch port announcement is definitely among this year's most appreciable whams in the gaming news. But more Astro is more Astro as well - any remnant trace of Japan Studio spirit is welcome, all the moreso after Sony snuffed out Pixelopus that briefly looked like it might [help] pick up the torch.
@KundaliniRising333 I'll disregard your jab at Astro Bot lol. But I do agree with your overall conclusion.
@naruball I was in the situation when I couldn't afford things and now that I can more easily afford them, I always say: "50€ has the same value for me then as it has now".
Even if you spend a stupid amount of money on a single game (looking at you, retro games on Ebay), as long as you value it, then it's all good. But paying 70€ for a plastic case and a disc with an unfinished game which people won't play day 1 and without anything a bit special as a manual (oh, the PS1/2/3 days) or an OST just doesn't make sense to me when that game will plummet to half of its price in a matter of months.
And regarding the backlog, it's the same as with women: they have a closet to the brim full with clothes and yet they have nothing to wear. The same way I "have nothing to play"
My thing is, PS Studios games almost always go on sale not long after they release. For instance, I got TLoU Part 1 for around $50 during Black Friday, which was only a couple of months after it came out. I'm sure Astro Bot and this Lego Horizon game will be included in some sale down the road too.
I’m not really bothered if a game is a dad sim or a cartoony platformer so long it’s fun.
"You’ve probably seen that meme circulating on social media, which shows a trio of trees from God of War, The Last of Us, and Days Gone"
Never seen it and can't seem to find it either?
@naruball 20
I voted for get Astro and Lego Horizon.
@naruball "Sackboy should have been a success
Ratchet & Clank should have sold a ton of copies
Tearaway should have won every award and sold millions of copies."
From Insomniac leaks, looks like Sackboy and R&C Rift Apart sold quite well. Sackboy sold 1.3 mill copies and Rift Apart sold 2.3 mill copies.
But yeah i'm sad with what happened for Tearaway. I thought it sold at least a mill copies but it seems it sold less than 50K?
I bought it on Vita and me and my brother had a lot of fun playing it. The PS4 version also quite fun but feels like the game more suitable for handheld.
@MikeOrator The Tallneck in the game seems to be bigger than the LEGO one, by a bit. They completely redesigned it, so it wonder if they're going to release another one to match the one in game, but they're going to be expensive sets.
I will almost certainly buy Astro, but i'm maybe 25/75 on Horizon Lego; I've still not played Forbidden West yet, and a Lego spinoff seems the kind of thing I'd slot in between games rather than a full commitment
I think the argument about $70 for platformers vs Sad Dad games is a red herring. The idea that people don't want Sad Dad games and ALSO don't want $70 platformers aren't contradictory. The argument of $70 games is that those hyper-realistic fruit-physics driven celebrity-acted Sad Dad games cost soooo much to make. They spent $100M on Spiderman. $300M on Spiderman 2. The game cost so much to make, and needs to charge a lot, is the industry excuse.
So then why would a platformer that doubtfully cost half as much to develop as those games get the same price tag? And why isn't Hell Divers 2 and Concord $70 if the argument is flat fee gaming?
There's so much FUD spread by the industry and industry apologists about the prices of gaming, especially where Sony is concerned. Returnal was not a $70 game, it was a $40-50 indie at best and trying to charge $70 for it and refusing to budge on a sale for ages, is what killed a really good game. Not all games cost $300m to make. Not all games need to be priced at $70. Maybe the $300m games should charge $100 to justify their fruit physics, and platformers should charge $45. let's see how popular those hyper real sad dad games are when people have to pay more to justify the cost and not be subsidized by people buying platformers and roguelikes at inflated prices?
@Pat_trick I don't think I'd say that games like Astrobot are niche games. Games like Astrobot are the kinds of games Nintendo is selling, and frankly eating the Sad Dad's lunch money in terms of gross sales and revenue. And, heck, the IGN PC Games Show for SGF opened with sheep and ducks....it was like 4 trailers in until we got to zombies. It's not that it's niche. It's that Sony abandoned and thus lost the market that these games belong to a long time ago, and thus that market all flocked to the competitor that was built upon them, so when they make an attempt to serve that market now and then, it's a swing and a miss because that market isn't on their platform in numbers because they ignored it for ages. They're going to have to make a lot of offerings in these genres and be willing to take losses on them to re-establish that market at some point in the future on future hardware (or late reissues of this hardware.) Prying market back from Nintendo that they lost is going to take work, time, and losses to rebuild. And I doubt they have the stomach for it.
@Keyblade-Dan When does buying a game "no longer matter?" Nintendo's still selling games/subs for games from the 1980s. Seems like they still matter.
This "box office" mentality like a game that doesn't sell most of it's sales within a week of release. Games aren't a theatrical release, they're a retail product. If you buy it 10 years from now, you're still a customer. Games like TLoU2 have a "big box office weekend" and then plummet in sales forever after that captive fomo audience gets their showing. Meanwhile games like Mario sell of years and years and years. No weekend is a smash hit, but at the end of the decade they come out ahead.
That's one thing that's changed in the digital age. It used to be the print run ended at some point, and that was it, revenue from the game simply ended forever unless a Classics reissue happened. Now the back catalogue sells and sells forever, and a game's long tail can outsell it's launch even with discounts.
(And yes, I bought Japan Studios games Still have my Vita cart of Gravity Rush to prove it, darnit! )
I've already pre-ordered Astrobot and I'll likely get Lego Horizon too.
Awesome article. I'm all in for Astro.
I feel that the people who are tired of sonys usual first party output and want rhe cool unique stuff like astro are supporting these kinds of games, but they're just greatly outnumbered by people who want the same stuff over and over.
I'll let you in on a little secret. The Sad Dad Sim "criticism" is coming from people who don't own a PlayStation. It's console fanboy crap...
"how do you even make different looking trees?"
To be fair, lots of games have such a distinctive art style, all sorts of things are instantly recognisable from them
What the author doesn't realize is it's not the games we love. It's the ability to complain. We never said we want different games. We were just wanting to complain about the current games. We'll continue complaining when the new ones arrive lol.
Anyway, I'm likely not getting either of these. As much as I love Horizon and Aloy, I really dislike LEGO games. Also, my backlog consists of Prince Of Persia, Dragon's Dogma II, God Of War: Ragnarok, Contra, Streets of Rage, etc. as well as my 10-years-long love affair with Elder Scrolls Online. Say to say I'm good as far as gaming goes. I really do hopes these games get snatched up by the ones who've been clamouring for something different though.
@DanteDevilHunter I've owned every Playstation and got a PS5 at launch and those games bore the crap out of me too. I couldn't be less interested in Sony's first party stuff. Bear in mind, Spider-Man sold about 20 million on PS4 which means over 80% of PS4 owners didn't buy it. God of War sold far less. The vast majority of owners don't buy those games (same for almost any game ever).
Sad dad sims is always my favourite. I don’t care what haters said. Btw Astro bot definitely day 1 purchase
@eltomo I think it’s actually a minority of the player base. That majority plays the games, enjoys themselves, and never comments online.
Preach it!!! Seriously I will double dip Astro. Digital to play. A collectors or deluxe physical for the shelf. That damn game better sell 10mil+ or for shame on all of you!!
Astrobot will day one if it gets PSVR2 support, but flat I I’m not super interested. Astrobot won me over in VR, and will keep me in VR.
If Astro sells well it could influence sonys output.. with more JOY. But maybe don't want the joy? We'll see. I think this is a 70 dollar game if I've ever seen one, was actually one of the few games I'd have no issue paying 70 for.
Yea, I don't understand why people think this game should be less expensive than other games, unless they think it will be as short as Playroom?
With all the, to me, crazy decisions Sony has made ever since .... the release of TLOU2 I have been very wary with the wallet. The last game I bought was probably Baldur's Gate III and I'm nowhere near being done with that (Cyberpunk and Fallout 4 swooped in and demanded new playthroughs), so I'm good on content.
It is the most effortless boycut you could imagine. Plus, the games I would have wanted Days Gone 2 and Factions 2 have both been axed. Spider-Man 2 and GoW: Ragnarok are the two main victims here. I could buy those, still.
But with Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 coming in soon - I would not expect myself to shell out for those titles. I am going to be all over KCD2.
I would take sad dad sims over games like Astro or LEGO Horizon any day and never got a problem about Sony's focus on realistic looking story heavy games.
With that said I will buy Astro Day 1 most probably.
Will I be buying both? Absolutely, unquestionably.
Will I own either one in 2024? Maybe...no, probably not. I'll wait for a sale and pick them up in 2025 - though if my kid who is a huge Horizon fan buys Lego Horizon, I might borrow it.
@DanteDevilHunter @Mustoe Nah, it's also coming from us classic PS fans who have been bored of "every game must be TOLoU" since the end of the PS3. I'm here for Gravity Rush, TLG, Ico, Sackboy, Wipeout, Sly, Jak, inFamous, R&C, Resistance, Ape Escape, etc. What I keep getting is another Sad Dad plus Horizon and an occasional R&C. And half the studios that made the above have either been shuttered or moved to making a Sad Dad, or Marvel, Marvel, Marvel.
I think Astro bot will flop at $70. Competition is fierce. If I was going to buy a game for kids I’d get sonic x shadow generations for $50 and it’s two games in one. A lot of people gonna buy sparking zero too.
Both of them, obviously! We need to support games that aren't depressing walking simulator 2.0 or another Naughty Dog remaster. I haven't bought a new mainline Sony game since I bought the PS5 itself (Four years ago now), as I really don't care for Spider Man, Stellar Blade or God of War. Hell, the PS5 is so unremarkable thus far that I struggle to list any more exclusives on it here lmao. Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart was fantastic though.
Astrobot appears to have enough content to warrant full price IMO. It looks fantastic
Why is everyone here saying Astro Bot is $70 when it’s 60?
Just this gen Sony dropped some amazing platformers like Sackboy, Ratched and Clank and now Astro Bot. And how many sad dad sims there was, like one (not counting the remakes)? I'd welcome even more diversity, some western rpgs and single player shooters.
Tbh the only thing i'm "tire of" is not getting a full rpg, the rpg elements in their games are great, they have the talent, it's time to make one lol.
Already pre ordered my physical Astro Bot copy and I'm going to preorder LEGO Horizon too. I think is funny how people trash Adventures but also complain about it being on the Switch. If people were able to see beyond f*cking COD and GTA and buy other kind of games Sony wouldn't need the Nintendo Switch to reach the number of copies LEGO expects.
I think Astro Bot has A LOT to win here. It didn't need a crazy budget to use a franchise, it didn't need a crazy development time (4 years) and sony doesn't have any crazy expectations behind it (Returnal sold 500k and it was enough to buy the studio and give them new offices, LEGO Skywalker sold 5 million and obviously LEGO expects similar numbers with Horizon). I believe that if Astro Bot can put Ratchet and Clank type of numbers (between 1 and 2 million) we will see a lot more Asobi in the future. And they may have a chance, Astro Bot was #1 in vg sales on Amazon in many countries.
Also I hope the Switch bros actually buy Adventures, if that works we could have LEGO sets, I'm not a LEGO fan but I have a couple big Star Wars sets and I would love a Thunderjaw set.
Both Astro Bot and Lego Horizon are looking like day 1 pickups. This is absolutely the kind of catalogue I want on a Sony console, in addition to the mature block busters.
That said, I hope the business suits realize that it takes time to cultivate an audience for these kind of games, especially when the Playstation brand has not been associated with them for close to 20 years now. With Lego Horizon also coming out on Switch, it will be interesting to see sales comparisons eventually.
NONE of them I will buy.
My PS5 will be filled with tons of 3rd party kids games from Outright Games, Microids, Merge Games, farming sim games, 3d platformer games, etc.
I never said I was sick of sad dad! Still, astrobot looks fun. Gonna skip Lego anything though...
@DogPark I don't think anyone is. The so called dad Sim games are still breaking record sales, they are doing well on PC and are critically well received. Push really needs to stop acting like Twitter memes are real life.
Look at a lot of the comments during the SOP and you'll see people want those mature/serious action games. I think Sony needs more family friendly games as well but that is a balance I think they can strike.
I like the look of Astro, but refusing to acknowledge the dearth of games is becoming frustrating. There seem to be two genres in Sony's arsenal; 3D mascot platformer, and third person action-adventure.
I don't know what happened to racing games and RPGs, or FPS games. A revival of Motorstorm and another deal with From would absolutely win me over again, but both seem pretty unlikely.
I actually agree with this article. For the past five years it just suddenly became popular to bash Sony's first party games for no apparent good reason even though there's a valid critique towards the exclusive focus on third person action adventure, but I cannot but to feel like that Sony's 1st Party games became the kind of convenient punching bags for a breed of gamers to show their edgy tastes in the ways the CoD and sports games were.
So - my hesitation was that for all the nostalgic free-kicks, AstroBot PlayRoom didn't feel like a full-priced game; but rather a (cynical) seranade to Playstation. It might. However, I don't buy games because of nostalgia - but rather value (and how much the game respects me as a player and consumer). Astro Bot could definitely earn the full price; but I find it laughable that people pre-order games to puff their chest and somehow get on a righteous soap-box. Let's see the reviews first.
As for Lego Horizon - I actually have lost most interest in the franchise after HFW and its writing. Making it less interesting and challenging doesn't inspire me to spend more money on it. Hard miss. In fact, what worries me is that PlayStation seems to be becoming the platform of Horizon.... not a smart move IMO.
@GymratAmarillo to be honest however, it's criminal that Returnal sold so poorly, but given that it currently sells still at full price (AUD109 or USD60) doesn't bode well... it's almost never on sale. Given the type of game, it's not surprising that it didn't sell gang-busters (also it desperately needed a time-limited or level-limited trial). And for all the people saying that AstroBot deserves to be 'full price' - that may be true, but if it tanks because of that, then don't complain because no one bought it.
I'm a sad dad but I'm happy about this !
To say ps5 is this advanced system there's a lot of cartoony looking 2d side scrollers and again cartoon looking game's.
Both probably
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare I'm always kinda interested what value means is it playtime or fun? I had Heavenly Sword it was expensive and really short but it's still one of my favorite games I ever bought.
@Flaming_Kaiser I don't think there's really a one-answer for that. Also, if you've got plenty of disposable income, your sense of value will differ from a kid saving up for their one game a year. For me personally - I just don't value games where I have to grind for no other reason than makes-game-longer, or where things feel kinda cut-n-paste. I liked the first PlayRoom fine enough - but I was also happy for a shorter experience. I'm hoping they didn't find ways to just extend the experience to earn a higher price. For the same token I don't find it great value to spend USD70 on a game that lasts 3-6 hours (it would need to be magic for that to be worth it).
Not sure where AstroBot will sit- happy to wait to hear reviews. BTW - I know that for many people, it's the constant activity/grind that's comforting (and not just about $ per minute value)
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare That's clear. With Heavenly Sword Nariko was a fantastic character for me i loved the story and the gameplay. The ending was fantastic and the game left me with wanting to play more thats value for me. I like Nariko more then Kratos a fantastic character who sacrificed herself for the greater good. The Infamous second son the expansion was fantastic I loved it Abigail was such a cool character and traversing the world was so much shorter and cheaper but worth every penny.
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