@JohnnyShoulder Thank you for the reply. Hmmm... so Hemwick has the harder regular enemies but the easier boss compared to Old Yharnam. 🤔 I might just wander through some early parts of Hemwick and see how I fare. If I can survive pretty well regular enemies then I might do that part first, then Amelia. Then Old Yharnam last, that way I can summon that help if needed yet it gives me time to level up some more for what sounds like are the two harder bosses at this stage of the game. This game is really good. I’m having a lot of fun. More than I thought I would. I did have to take a little break today as I was just getting obsessed with collecting blood echoes and felt I needed my retinas to be exposed to some actual colors besides black and red 😂 — so I played some Abzu for stress relief and to learn what the colors blue and green looked like again.
@Kyroki hehehe I find that funny, especially the way you wrote it. I remember that I locked on him and whenever he charged at me I would get behind him and hit him a few times. That's all I remember.
@Th3solution No worries. Something happens shortly, can't remember exactly in which area which totally blew my mind. The funny thing is you might never get to see it!
You will find out soon enough if it is the 'wrong' route for you. This is where the lack of signposting really comes into play. The only way to find out for sure is to go and explore.
I had a play on this earlier and went through Hemwick. It was good fun one hit killing most of the enemies lol.
One thing that sprang to mind is that grinding to level up will only help you so much. Some of the danger comes with enemy placements and I got done a couple of times when enemies took me by surprised. Plus you may risk taking some of challenge away which is a big part of these games.
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@JohnnyShoulder Well, I went through the first part of Hemwick and I’m pretty good shape. Probably the hardest part so far is that large graveyard before the area begins, right outside the gate. That’s where the enemy placement is the real challenge, like you say. There are some pretty well hidden enemies throughout the rest of Hemwick as well. Those pesky black birds can literally be hidden anywhere and usually don’t make any warning sounds. I can pretty much 2 or 3 hit kill the enemies here, so I’m probably not terribly overleveled yet. I have died once when caught off guard so that’s about right.
Oh yeah the crows, I forgot how much I hate those things.
To put things in perspective my character is level 82 and I've just got the last boss and the dlc to do. You are already over the recommended max level for Old Yharnam and for Hemwick. Just a suggestion but there is probs no need for much more grinding and you can just power on through most of the game.
@JohnnyShoulder Good to know. I guess I enjoy the satisfying combat so much that I just hang around killing things and leveling up too much. Lol. I also am probably too obsessive about my echoes. If I have like 6000, then I’ll be like “Hmm .. maybe rather than risk losing them, I won’t push forward into the next unknown area and I’ll hang around here and backtrack until I have another 4000 echoes to spend on the next level up.” Then I do that and get the satisfaction of adding another point to my character. And by the time I make it to the point I was before again, I have 6000 echoes again, so I have the same thought 😂 and I go back and level up again. I’m hopeless.
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Yeah I started off like that too but found it felt like I wasn't progressing in the game enough. Sometimes that is a good strategy but there comes the point when you have to bite the bullet and continue on, otherwise you are just going round in circles. You will lose echoes, sometimes loads (I lost 100k on two separate occasions playing the dlc for Dark Souls 3 the other week), its kinda part of these games. You are early enough in the game that you will get plenty of opportunities to gain a substantial amount of echoes as you advance in the game.
I've got about 35k in echoes and need to about 42k to level up, I could grind a bit more but decided to start on the dlc.
One of the things I like the most about these games is the exploring new areas and fighting the different enemies. Never been too fussed in grinding in games and only really do it unless I have to.
@JohnnyShoulder Yeah, I usually don’t like games that are too “grindy” but it really works for BB because of the difficulty and how beautifully rendered and intricate an the design is. I’ll hang around an area and find new nuances to the environment long after I’ve done the round a couple times.
That said, I will start to implement more running past he early enemies that I am good at beating and get on further into an area. With few exceptions, it seems you can just run past nearly anyone.
On a separate but related note, I think I read somewhere that after you put 25 points into a respective trait, that you get diminishing returns for each additional point. Is that correct? I’ve got my vitality at 23, so I’m getting close to the soft cap if it’s true.
Also, someone said if you haul around a bunch of insight, that the game gets harder. Any idea at what point that occurs. I think I heard or read 10? Again, just wondering since I’m getting close to that number potentially and might need to just spend some of it to avoid the difficulty spike.
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@Th3solution When you get to 15 insight things will get a bit harder. Then again when you get 30, 40, 50 and 60. I was always spending mine as there are some useful items from the bath merchant. You need to keep a few if you wanna summon though.
Yeah running past enemies is a good idea, especially if you wanna get your blood stain to retreive your echoes or need to get an item. You are right the world, it is a joy to go around the world. It is so detailed in design.
The soft cap is different for each attribute. The following link to the Fextra wiki will have more info on all the soft and hard caps. https://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Stats
@JohnnyShoulder Good to know. I guess I enjoy the satisfying combat so much that I just hang around killing things and leveling up too much. Lol. I also am probably too obsessive about my echoes. If I have like 6000, then I’ll be like “Hmm .. maybe rather than risk losing them, I won’t push forward into the next unknown area and I’ll hang around here and backtrack until I have another 4000 echoes to spend on the next level up.” Then I do that and get the satisfaction of adding another point to my character. And by the time I make it to the point I was before again, I have 6000 echoes again, so I have the same thought 😂 and I go back and level up again. I’m hopeless.
I was similar when I played it for the first time, but even then I was sometimes walking with a high number or BE and sometimes I even lost all of them. Those numbers looks silly in ng+ where I find myself walking around with 400k blood echoes and not caring for that xD
I would advise against staying for too long in one area as there are many different areas in the game waiting for you to explore them. There are several missable areas because they are optional. Old Yharnam is one of those. I'll let you search for others
@JohnnyShoulder Perfect. Thanks! @NecuVise Oh what I could do with 400K echoes! It’s like I’m the pauper making minimum wage at a dead end job and you’re the prince with a huge inheritance and never ending supply of investment capital gains that you can’t even spend it 3 lifetimes. 😂
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@Th3solution when you are 130+ level all you can do with that amount is to buy some not so useful attributes as all the important ones are already at lvl50
So I got Bloodborne for free on PS+, and I'm having a lot of fun with it, even though I haven't even beaten the first boss. My question is, can I purchase the DLC with the free version that I got, or would I have to actually buy the game normally?
@KirbyTheVampire I don't see why you wouldn't be able to, it's not like it's a special version of the game like a demo or something. Just keep in mind, that if you end your PS+ membership you won't have access to the game digitally anyway unless you rebuy it.
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For some reason I'm genuinely considering going back in and playing Bloodborne again. I've never felt compelled to revisit any of the Souls games, but I just have this nagging that makes me want to go back in and play it again.
I’m really addicted to this game, but it seriously is invading my dreams. 😬 I’ve had games do that before, but with BB it’s made my dreams into nightmares. I’m not sure if this is good for my mental health. 😅
I have now aced Hemwick witches, blood starved beast - both in the first try, and just defeated Vicar Amelia who took me just 2 tries. The game has really opened up and the number of pathways is now just insane! So many secret areas and not to mention now things have changed after Amelia. I also accidentally found the optional area Yahar’gul Unseen Village, if you know what I mean. That was freaky.
But there are just so many times in this game I just get scared by an enemy or a sound and my adrenaline surges.
Whew... I need to take a break. 😪
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