Topic: There are micro transactions in mgs the phantom pain :(

I was looking at the best place to preorder (£37 so far) and noticed an article, which led to a video. The community manager mentions there are micro transactions in the main game to unlock gear.

Micro transactions in an mgs game.... !

They're optional. You can unlock everything for free.

This was mentioned very early on during the long E3 demo (link below, have a watch at 30 seconds, it looks good), no biggy as long as it in no way becomes pay to win, which the voice over says is not the case. Bravely Default and Dead Space 3 had them and I didn't really notice to be honest.

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2015/06/e3_2015_metal_gear_sol...

@Wesker: As free as the progession in a mobile game, the answers he gave were extremely bare bones, the excuse he gave were to appease people who are new to the series - so new fans will pay over the odds? Of course they wont micro transactions are aimed at the fans. I've seen EA put this rubbish in before and even they have backtracked with their latest action games (not sport) as no gamer wants them. Micro transactions have no place in mgs. Its starting to make sense what's happening with mother base, resource management and multiple areas its not one sweeping open world, its a pay to win load of rubbish. You will be able to get through the game without paying, but the second micro transactions are embodied the whole game loses focus to make paying the fees more reasonable whilst playing, why else would you pay them unless the game is designed around them?

Well, I'm still unsure as to whether MGS5 is going to be everything we want it to be, but I doubt the micro transactions are going to make or break it. The bigger problem for me is it appears to be a sandbox, base-building game with a nigh on mute protagonist. Anyway, that's a different discussion.

@Wesker: That's what I mean, the base building game. I've no idea why this is suddenly in vogue with fallout, assasins creed and now mgs all going in this direction but if we wanted a base building resource management fame we would play civ 5 wouldn't we?

I'm more than happy with how it's looking, I'm sure I'll like some aspects more than others but bring it on!

If it's purely optional, I doubt it's a problem. As long as the game is fair regardless if you pay or not, it's not a real issue.

It's easy to throw your hands up the instant you see them, but I'm actually going to ease on this one. It could be much worse.

Yeahh maybe, going off track here but I wouldn't be surprised one day if we get a £50 transaction to jump straight to the last boss with all trophies, or £10 for x amount of collectibles.

I'm not happy with any micro transactions in any AAA games, there is no need, the companies make a HUGE amount of money already.

@themcnoisy: They do indeed make huge amounts of money, especially when they add in a season pass with overpriced content that should be on the disc. Sadly this will happen even with MGS. One the game is out Kojima is gone. Are Konami really not going to milk that game - if it's the success they hope - for all it's worth? Only someone completely deluded will say no. Kojima I don't think would but he won't be there to stop them.

@rastamadeus Agree point for point. I know they'll squeeze what they can out because it's Kojima's last Metal Gear. This will likely be the last Metal Gear game I buy, unless a sequel to Revengeance happens and is done well. I really don't say that for a lot of franchises, especially my favorites like Metal Gear.

That said, I hope this brings the series full circle.

If it's optional and doesn't effect the game who gives a flying f**k? I'm usually not a fan of microtransactions myself but it depends on how its handled. If it's like Mortal Kombat X, I don't care. People b*tched endlessly about that but it doesn't effect the game. If somebody is willing to pay to speed up a process or something, well, he/she is willing to pay and I have no problem with them having the option as long as it doesn't effect those of us who aren't willing to.

@Gamer83: But that's the point, mass effect 3 for example clearly nerfed progression unless you played multiplayer, and the speed of decent drops was so slow it did effect the game. Forza 5 on the xbox was a shadow of Forza 1,2 and 3 due to micro transactions. If you include micro transactions in a game that costs £50 already its actually a joke.

In the destiny thread Wesker has recently imbedded a video I implore everyone to watch it. Its eye opening and actually disappointing.

@themcnoisy:
You missed my point. It's possible for microtransactions to be there but not have much of an effect. Lets wait and see how it's handled first.

@Gamer83: Sorry I didn't explain myself well there.

Micro transactions should not be in a full price retail game at all in any way. Regardless of the effect. Even if there's a Negligible effect. Its wrong we are now semi conditioned to this awful practice.

Anyway I'm going off point but the angry Joe interview has me worried. It will be in your face, and what happened to just picking easy I'm the options if you struggle? Flabbergasted and I'm not pre ordering now. Well done Konami.

Doom and gloom snore

I'm glass half empty Kyle. Ok ok lets wait and see, still not happy though.

Will be buying packs of fags at real world rates

I totally agree that a full priced retail game should not contain micro-transactions - regardless of what they do (if anything). Even if they are just cosmetic (like weapon camo's or character skins) and have no direct impact in thegame as such are still don't agree with them. Take CoD for example, one of the things that was great was unlocking those Camo's and now they are pretty pointless - not saying you can't still unlock camo's but compared to the ones available to buy, there is little to no incentive. Why go for gold when you can have an animated camo for a small cost? Things that were a 'target' , a mark of achievement are now virtually replaced by micro-transactions because they look so much better. In every way its wrong!

So looking at the comments we have 4 people who are not that bothered
And 3 people who dont agree with micro transactions in this game. Anyone else think its good, bad or not bothered?

I read somewhere that game retail prices haven't particularity increased over the last 10-15 years but cost of production has shot up...so instead of increasing the price of the base game, companies are selling micro-transactions and DLC etc. If that is true (I haven't got all the stats), then it's fair that they are trying other ways to keep their margins.

I don't have any major issues unless it's Pay to Win