As with the PlayStation 3 before it, there’s an accelerating sentiment around the web that the PlayStation 4 lacks games. Despite new releases deploying on a weekly basis, many armchair analysts have opted to criticise the console’s first year – primarily its lack of first-party content. Many argue that Microsoft – with Sunset Overdrive, the Halo: Master Chief Collection, and Forza Horizon 2 – has a better offering this holiday. Unsurprisingly, Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida doesn’t necessarily agree.
“[Our lineup compares] very well – very, very well,” he told Eurogamer.net when asked to contrast the PS4's offering to the Xbox One. “[There are] games like Destiny coming out, The Last of Us Remastered... it's a new game to play for people who didn't play it on the PS3. One amazing statistic, to me at least, was published by Nielsen a couple of months ago. They researched the PS4, and reported that 17 per cent of PS4 owners had never owned a last-gen [system] – a new consumer who skipped a generation. 32 per cent additionally didn't own a PS3, but owned a 360 or Wii.”
He continued: “Almost 50 per cent of people who have purchased a PS4 didn't own a PS3, and that's lots of people that missed exclusive PS3 titles like The Last of Us, so it's a great way to welcome those people back to PlayStation, saying that this is what you missed." We wonder if that’s a subtle hint that other remakes are on the way, with both God of War: Ascension and Beyond: Two Souls heavily rumoured. Nevertheless, the executive forgot to mention the likes of LittleBigPlanet 3 and DriveClub, both of which are due out later this year on the firm’s next-gen format.
Is that enough to keep your DualShock 4 charged and your expensive console clear of dust, though? Let us know what’s going to be keeping your system hot this holiday in the comments section below.
[source eurogamer.net]
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Both are getting the major third party games, the tie breaker for me is Sunset Overdrive. That game looks awesome, too bad Sony missed on that one because of stupid bs.
Yeah but it does lack games that show off the PS4. Where are the AAA games that are unique to the PS4? Where are the games that can't be done on the Xbox One? This is a couple of times now the Sony hierarchy have talked about how good the line up for the PS4 is. I just wish I could see it.
@Gamer83 I wouldn't call wanting to own the property 'stupid bs' personally. If you fund something, it's only natural to want ownership of it.
@voodoo341
@get2sammyb
Yes I know Sony is always right... Sorry, but this is a case where MS stepped up and put their consumers first and I appreciate something like that. On the other hand Sony loves to spout bullcrap like 'for the gamer,' well, sometimes you have to step up and prove it. They didn't do it there. They can take that marketing slogan and shove it. I get this is a Sony specific site but that shouldn't mean we have to pretend the company is perfect and defend everything it does. If the situation were reversed, of course, we'd be seeing 'this is why Sony is wonderful and MS is evil.'
@voodoo341
Hopefully those games are coming next year, and vice versa. The fact is neither Sony or MS have really stepped up big this year. Sucker Punch got inFamous out which is a great but, yeah nothing mind blowing. MS used its biggest advantage and paid for two exclusives in Titanfall and Sunset Overdrive. Titanfall is great for what it is but again, not a game changer. You could say the jury is out on SO but I think it's going to deliver. Still, that's only one game and does make the chest thumping from execs on both sides seem a bit ridiculous. 2015 will be the real early test for both consoles.
@Gamer83 No we wouldn't. You're being stupid. Neither side did anything wrong. Sony offered them a deal, microsoft offered them a deal, they picked Microsoft. Why does that make sony "Evil" exactly. You think it's uncommon to want to own an IP?
I strongly disagree with Shu on this one. I'm personally intrested in Driveclub and LBP3 but many people don't like racers or are into LBP. And TLOU isn't a holiday game it's releasing in a few weeks. Xbone has a much more appealing line up with Sunset Overdrive, Halo MCC, and Forza Horizon 2. Good thing I own both consoles so I get to enjoy exclusives from both. And sure Destiny will be better on PS4 but it's still on X1 also. 3rd parties don't count.
@Gamer83 Not at all - we're very critical of Sony a lot of the time. I genuinely think that funding a game you have absolutely no control over is a bad move, and would say the same if Sony was doing it. There's a chance that Titanfall 2 and Sunset Overdrive 2 could both come to PS4 — what will Microsoft have achieved by funding them? Couldn't that money have been put to better use by diversifying the roster of brands and properties that it does own?
I get where you're coming from — they're bringing what looks to be a great game to market that's going to be exclusive to Xbox One. I just personally feel it's a poor long-term strategy. Maybe there are clauses in the contract that we don't know about that make this seem less short sighted on Microsoft's part.
So sick of this moaning. Sunset Overdrive - absolutely not MY cup of tea - will face the same fate as Titanfall. Unfortunately I think that's valid for Driveclub as well...
@get2sammyb
Mass Effect... can't tell me that didn't pay off big for MS, and the fact 360 had the early momentum played a role in that. If Sony, with the momentum PS4 has now, had grabbed Sunset Overdrive, it gets the brand recognition at worst and at best, given it's prior relationship with Insomniac, a possible exclusive partnership. PS4 has the lead and SO 2 going multiplat when most people had played the first game on PS4, wouldn't be devastating at all. There's also the fact Sony has a plethora of IPs. If we were talking about a company that had literally nothing, it would be a big deal to own whatever IP it could. Sony's in a position where it wouldn't have been a disaster to fund SO, get a good exclusive for year one while Naughty Dog, Santa Monica and a few others work out the kinks, and then you cross the potential multiplat bridge when you get there.
Nope this fall, exclusive wise is solely one upped by Microsoft. Sony shouldn't worry though, two games they have is crossgen so i shouldn't include them. But momentum and sales will still be in Sony's favor, then MS and i should include Nintendo somewhere...
Anyway third party partners, don't dismiss them. Anyway as for Sony's marketing slogan "4thegamers", they need to change that because its been proven to be complete bs, but not because of something so trivial and meaningless as Sunset Overdrive but their other actions.
@Scollurio
And I'm tired of any time somebody brings up a legit criticism of Sony it's considered 'moaning,' but it is what it is. Perfectly fine if Sunset Overdrive isn't your kind of game, I respect that, but there are a lot of people who are excited for it and it did take several E3 awards and Insomniac is not some scrub developer. It's also a developer with a rich history on PlayStation, so yes, I'm massively disappointed how things played out there.
As for DriveClub, not a game I'm looking forward to at all and I'll admit it's for a very petty reason (30 fps, same reason I don't give a damn about Forza Horizon 2) but I'm not going to be as quick to write it off any more as I was before. The hype isn't crazy, but there is some and the Motorstorm games were good, so maybe Evolution pulls a genre-changer out of its rearend, who knows. Stuff I've read lately is a lot more positive than it was just prior to the delay so, that has to be a good sign, and I'm looking forward to what you'll have to write about the game on the forums. Your GT 6 post nearly convinced me to go for that game but I had moved on to PS4 at that point.
@Gamer83 See I really appreciate your contributions to this forum and your postings, as I think that you're opinion oftentimes is contrary to what the masses are going for. I really enjoy reading your side of things all the time and thanks for the interest in my writings. Still, I can understand your bitterness about Sunset Overdrive, but you know, as tastes differ I - in my case - have plenty to play on PS4 and therefore cannot really appreciate the bitterness Sony is getting from so many sides. To me it appears like people tend to condemn the company that did SO MANY things right, and now, probably - depending on your point of view - might be slow with some first party titles and praise the company that basicly did everything WRONG and now does ONE thing right. It just doesn't add up to me. I hope I don't appear as a fanboy to you, I'm not. Im very critical about things in general and my hobby as well. It's just that I personally see no point in Sunset Overdrive but got plenty to play on my PS4 (Watch_Dogs, Killzone, Resogun, Destiny, Diablo III, The Last of Us Remastered (again), ... - just to quickly name the bigger ones). I hate that (not you but the general public) is all boiling it down to first party titles. I hate it. I have my system, it's the PS4 and a good game is a good game and I don't give a flying rat's ass if that game also is on another system. Also I don't care for timed exclusives or pre-order boni. I just enjoy a good game for what it is and I think if all people would view it like that, the general public's opinion would be way more balanced. No offense against you and your tastes mate. Just criticizing the media.
The Xbox offerings are still pretty slim. I would no way ever agree that they are significantly better or more abundant. Pathetic really.
@Scollurio
Well, I won't lie, a huge part of the reason I got PS4 was for Sony's franchises. I may not have bit so early but Killzone was day one, inFamous and MLB The Show I knew were year one so I had to get the console. Unfortunately Guerilla, Sucker Punch and San Diego (even if MLB for PS4 was a month late) are the only studios that got their stuff done on time. I was hoping Uncharted could be 2014, but looking at how Naughty Dog is somewhat on a two-year cycle and had just put out TLoU in 2013, fully admit, my expectations there were too high. I'm hoping 2015 will be a lot better on that front. I don't underestimate the importance of third parties though, with th exception of maybe Uncharted and Halo, more people will buy PS4s and X1s for the big third party names like Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, Assassin's Creed and Destiny than anything else.
@voodoo341 since both systems are almost identical in terms of hardware, there isn't anything one can do that the other cannot. The PS4 can just do it with a little better graphics. Last generation the PS3 had BluRay (so single disc games) as a "we can do, you cannot" and the Cell (if you took the time to really learn it) but this generation we are so evenly matched with just the RAM speed and some extra shaders really separating the two as far as game capabilities.
That being said, to me there is a lot more that separates the two. Like the companies that make them, the general type of players in each community, the developers that choose to support the platform, esthetics, history, etc...
So why are people picking on Sony for a lack of games when it's clear the Xbox One is also lacking in games. Even the PC at the moment is lacking in new AAA games unless you want to play ones from 10 years ago. So anyone that is arguing this factor just to make Sony look bad is being silly and nothing more than trolling to try and make Xbox One looks better. Their I said it because after all, that is the reality of it since "those" people never bring up the other platforms.
The fact here is that 10 or 20 people collected over a few forums can sound like 10,000 to 20,000 people. Even 5 people can sound like thousands. I just laugh at people trying to point the finger at Sony for the lack of games when the competition isn't even in a good position in this matter.
What is Sunset Overdrive, anyway? I thought it's pretty niche.It doesn't look like something worth playing.
Two of Sony's big three exclusives are cross gen (one more so a remaster) though compared to Mircrosofts only has one cross gen Sunset Overdrave which looks really good and Master Chief collection (which seems like great value) I'd say Microsoft have it better this Christmas. Also does anyone else cringe when they read or hear (in a commercial) "Greatness awaits" because I find I do now this really feels like before a console launches slogan to me.
3rd party games are better on PS4 than on Xbox One and there's more 3rd party games than console exclusives. Period.
I still maintain that Sunset Overdrive won't sell well cos most people will be saving up to buy the new CoD or Battlefield or Assassins, maybe even GTAV. The only game that Microsoft have that can do great numbers is Halo and even then it's a remaster on a system with a 5 million install base.
I dont think Sony has a great holiday line-up, they got the "awaits" part right, but I don't see X1 as having that much better stuff either. I see it as LBP3, Driveclub and LoU vs Sunset Overdrive, Forza 2 and Halo collection. A new game, a rqcing game, and a remaster. Thats a draw.
Wii U has Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors, Captain Toad Treasure Tracker and SSB all this gen exclusive.
Wii U wins this holiday for exclusives. 3rd party not so much. Its still $100 cheaper though.
@Gemuarto I agree lol
Ultimately what matters is the games you fancy (not how many games you have no interest in) and I fancy nothing in the xbone exclusives for far
@rjejr
Not exactly a draw to me, as two of Sony's games can be found in their old console. And MS' remaster is 4 games in one.
But we agree on Wii U getting the best exclusive games this holiday season.
I'm honestly gonna be buying my PS4 (in 2016) for the third-party games, though there are also first-party titles that I am interested in.
(I've been a fan of PlayStation since the PSOne Slim was released though, heh)
I'm personally lookin forward to some of the games coming to ps4 this year. I never got to play the last of us on ps3 so I'm really looking forward to that, little big planet 3 will keep me entertained for a while along with CoD and destiny
Sony has plenty of games to keep me happy. Also we get to play a percentage Driveclub for free. Does anyone get to play the Halo collection or Sunset Overdrive on the X1 for free? I think not. Also just like The Last of Us the Halo collection is from last gen and imo The Last of Us is loads better than the aging Halo games. Plus the PS4 versions of third party games seem to run better than they do on the X1. Imo both systems are lacking in the first party department but that doesn't bother me. There're plenty of third partys that'll keep me busy until The Order and Uncharted 4 release. Also don't forget that Sony's got a lot of devs quietly working on AAA's. Look how they surprised us with LBP3. Who knows what else they have up there sleeves
@Gamer83: In a way MS needs these exclusives more then Sony since out of the gate the PS4 kicked the Xbox One's butt sales wise due to their original policies. So therefore it's probably more of a priority to MS to get these exclusives then it is Sony and that plays in the developer's hands as MS is willing to pay more for them then Sony is.
Again if it bothers you that much you can always trade in your PS4 for an Xbox One .
@Gemuarto yeah, sunset overdrive is getting a more than fair share of hype (for obvious reasons) it will be a dud like titan fall.
I think between last of us, GTAV, drive club and disteny, the ps4 will do just fine this holiday season.
I wont be getting a PS4 til this Holiday season, so the line up is great for me
I think a crucial fact here is that Microsoft needs a strong holiday line up. At the rate the PlayStation 4 is selling, Sony knows it doesn't need to do too much. Maybe that'll prove to be a mistake, maybe it does need some more exclusive games, but I can't see the Xbox One making up all of that ground so quickly.
@Tasuki
And again, just because the X1 right now has more exclusives that appeal to me doesn't mean I'm looking to trade in my PS4 for one.
The only game on the Xbox One I would even want to play is Sunset Overdrive. The problem I have with that game though, is the fact that Insomniac are the developers. I don't like insomniac, I didn't like the Resistance series, I don't care at all for Ratchet and Clank to be honest. I mean, so far none of their games have appealed to me and I really believe that Sunset Overdrive is going to end up disappointing a lot of people.
@Gamer83 The reason why Sony has a "plethora" of IPs is due to the fact that they DONT implement this strategy. Having a great roster of IPs is not easy or cheap work. Resources (money) are limited.
As Sammy pointed out, isnt using your limited resources on IPs you own, control and can develop a better strategy? Its simply not possible to fund one hit wonders AND focus on having the best IP in the business. I completely understand Sonys decision on this one.
@eLarkos
A one off with a company you've worked closely with in the past isn't going to kill Sony. It has a poor holiday lineup, you fund Sunset Overdrive while other developers get their games together for next year. I'm not saying it's something the company should dabble in all the time, the fact is it has built up a good stable of IPs over the years, I don't see how it hurts to do something like this once early in the generation. MS actually has a good number of IPs as well (in its infinite wisdom it chooses to avoid many of them), but still dabbles in stuff like this. When I see Sony using its limiated funds to make devices like VR headsets I can't help but wonder if maybe that money isn't better spent on working with a developer that has made some of PlayStation's biggest hits. I understand Sony's decision, doesn't mean I agree with it.
No, the PS4 AND XBOX One holiday games not that really good. Sunset Overdrive is the first and only reason so far that'll make me get the XB 1, at the end of this gen. WiiU has the best exclusives but not the third party games.
I'm waiting for either an Uncharted or Kingdom Hearts bundle to get the PS4. And by that time, it'll have more games I can't get on my XB 360 or PS3.
@Gamer83 I still can't see Sunset Overdrive as massive hit worth fighting for. It resembles me Crazy Taxy and Jet set Radio. While it can be solid, fun and all, at the same time, I worry about it's destiny. Even if it will have good reviews and all. It looks to me more like party game, to tell you the truth. I still can't understand what it is about. And when people don't understand, they just don't buy.
@Gemuarto
Well, we'll find out this holiday. I think it's a game that would've been worth taking a risk on. Could be a hit with Xbox One gamers, may not be. I think it definitely would've found some success on PS4.
@Gamer83 "you fund Sunset Overdrive while other developers get their games together for next year"
Im assuming you are talking about Sonys first party devs, in which case u have missed my point.
I definitely get what you are saying and not trying to say you are wrong as It would obviously be marvellous if Sony could produce every game under the sun or even just this one game.
However to say its just one game or not is irrelevant as we dont know the financial situation of Sony. (Sneaky suspicion it aint great). What we do know overall is where we think their primary focus in game development should be - owned IPs.
As for VR, I think we definitely sit on different sides of the fence on that one. R&D of any sort is how a company lasts longer than a day. You take the hits with the misses. If all Sony did this gen was try to pump out as many ps4 games as possible, in the current (continuing) state of the industry, there would be no need for a ps5 - regardless of how well the ps4 sells.
I'm happy for Sony to ride the multi plat/ indie train for as long as it takes for the games that are obviously being made behind closed doors to be ready. I would prefer them to be fully functional, fully tested and fully working before they are released.
I'm actually back playing my Xbox until something decent comes out. Particularly "the last of us" I haven't played that yet being an Xbox owner until a few months back. But there doesn't seem to be anything holding me on the ps4 at the moment. I've completed infamous and watchdogs. I even bought black flag for it, despite completing it on the Xbox too. I am also really looking forward to unity. But...again...that's in the near future.
@Jazzer94 It actually makes sense look back at the 360n ps3 both had no great library of games in their first year and if you look at the confirmed roster for nex year greatness does await for both consoles too many ppl are complaining when its still early as hell in the cycle the best isnt gonna come out until at least 2016-17 and this holiday season a ton of games are comming weather 3rd or 1st party does it really matter? dragon age, evil within, destiny, call of duty, assassins creed, battlefield, far cry, shadow of mordor, alien those are all 3rd party games comming out this holiday and id be satisfied with less then half that list so many games for ppl to keep complaining
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