Back when Microsoft ambiguously announced that it had secured Xbox exclusive rights to Rise of the Tomb Raider, we speculated that it may have been looking for a direct competitor to Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End. The specifics of the deal are still shaky almost seven days later, but it sounds likely that the Square Enix published title will release on the PlayStation 4 at some point in the future. However, in an interview with Eurogamer.net, the architect behind the deal, Xbox chief Phil Spencer, has admitted that Naughty Dog’s treasure hunting series definitely encouraged him to sign on the dotted line.
“I’m a big fan of Uncharted and I wish that we had an action adventure game of that ilk,” he candidly commented. “We've started some, and we've looked at them. But we don't have one today of that quality.” Spencer goes on – and, honestly, on and on – elsewhere in the interview about how the original reveal wasn’t supposed to be misleading and how he’s not “trying to push gaming down on any other platform”. Fair enough, but we’d argue that nurturing the construction of some kind of internally developed Nathan Drake-esque escapade years ago would have made more sense than paying to delay Lara Croft's latest on other systems.
That’s obviously just us, though.
[source eurogamer.net]
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Are those people working in the Xbox division trying to get it shut down? I can't help but think that is the case. They've been tossing money around carelessly, They've been basically saying positive news for Sony's PS4 system and the games. Sooner or later they are going to end up at Microsofts round table where they are going to dissect the Xbox division and license everything in that division out.
It's like a horrible car accident that is about to happen, but you can't turn away, instead you watch the head on collision and it feels like it's in slow motion. o.O
Sammy this is Push Square, not Pure Xbox!
Shut up Microsoft, you've just told us can't make an Uncharted quality adventure (you tried apparently) so you bought a rental. That is just embarrassing on so many levels. But this has been the case with MS for quite some time now. Jeez with all those Naughty Dog employees jumping ship you could have done something more useful for your money.
I dont think sony are perfect but theve been laying off the dirty tactics, microsoft have just been throwing money at everyone and everything hoping the problems of the xbone go away, ther main fault was just not listning to the game community as a whole developers and consumers on what they wanted said f**k u and theve been trying to change things ever since, trying to get tomb raider as a timed exclusive would be like sony tryn to get halo as a timed exclusive it just makes u look like a d**k.
@Punished_Boss I thought the Uncharted quote was relevent.
@Punished_Boss I agree, I dont really care what Spencer thinks, says, eats ? lol
Also I just hope ND dont have to release Uncharted 4 for Christmas instead of just when they are happy that its ready
I dont' think it makes microsoft look like a pr*ck. What it makes them look like is desparate after reading this article. It shows a huge weakness and they've had this weakness for awhile. With the Xbox 360, Microsoft should have invest that money in first party studios and hired people, but instead they threw money at 3rd party developers for those exclusives. Now, they were successful, but that success isn't going to last forever. They never really invested their money properly and relied on a couple of big names to push the system. While it worked since the first Xbox, it's kind of vanishing now for them. I don't think MS is going to turn it around, all they will do is add more apps to the Xbox One. They don't get it and they never will.
They should stick with what works, Windows and Office.
I don't like a lot of the wording I read in the full interview. If it's a similar deal to Ryse or Dead Rising 3 it's not coming to PS4. If that's the case, I'm rooting even more for every SE game to fail hard.
@Gamer83 one game isn't coming to ps4 and you want a company to fail because of it.......why?
@Gamer83 Didn't Microsoft publish those games, though? As far as I understand, Square Enix is publishing this one, which makes the scenario different.
I still wonder if they're going to lock this down in perpetuity anyway. Titanfall was supposed to be a timed exclusive, too.
@TOMBOY25
F'ed over millions of users who paid for the damn game, some twice, on the PS format. The PS users are the ones who bought into the reboot and these scumbags decide with the sequel to just flip 'em all the bird and take MS' money. The trust as far I'm concerned is gone. I wasn't going to buy Sleeping Dogs again, but if I was to why would I now knowing if MS decides it wants that game as well these jerkoffs will give it to them? As far as I'm concerned, SE can f**k right the hell off. Perfectly fine if others don't feel the same, I feel ripped off and hope to seem that despicable company disappear.
@get2sammyb
They'd be stupid not to. And I wouldn't be surprised if the eventual third game gets locked down as well.
The problem with Square Enix is Yosuka Matsuda. He even said in a previous article how Square Enix has lost its focus. Lets take a look at this guy shall we....
http://www.playstationtrophies.org/news/news-12729-Square-Enix-Has--Lost-Its-Focus--Admits-President-Yosuke-Matsuda.html
I mean, it just gets better for this company. lol yikes.
@Demi_God
SE is a f'ing joke these days. I was never a huge fan of JRPGs but that doesn't mean I couldn't appreciate the quality of the past FF's or Dragon Questions and Secret of Mana actually was a favorite of mine. But now they just suck and frankly wouldn't be missed.
They need to get new blood running that company and someone that at least plays freakin games, because this current derp running SE is just awful. Evidently he does the opposite of what he says. I've only seen this with one other company that has a few developer branches, EA.
Sounds to me like MS should have had Rare crank out an MS competitor for uncharted rather then Kinect games.
@Tasuki Well this will cause a problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfaN267lI_Y
@get2sammyb And guess what I just read o.O Nate Wells has rejoined Naughty Dog as a lead artist. Well now isn't that peachy? LOL
http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/08/18/the-last-of-us-departed-art-director-nate-wells-rejoins-naughty-dog/
Better than him not being there.
Microsoft rented Tombraider...Sony has Uncharted and while I enjoyed the Tomb raider reboot it still wasn't as good as anything with Nathan Drake as it's lead. Microsoft threw money at a game to get it on their system and try to make up the shortfalls they have compared to Sony...how dare those dastardly bounders act like a business! A business operating in a way they always have....throw money around.
Xbox = lazy. They really need to up their game and dev their own stuff. They should be investing in new studios and expanding etc instead I think we'll see them just buy some up.
@Demi_God Naughty Dog is Undoomed! Nate's comeback in Naughty Dog, Nate's comeback in U4, coincidence?
All that Rare IP Microsoft sits on but wastes money buying temp exclusives (feels stupid even calling them exclusives) smh Microsoft.
@Punished_Boss yeah, lol. What this kind of tells me though is that Naughty Dog is a great company to work for. Of course that guy tried to go into doing his own thing, but in the end he comes right back to Naughty Dog. I have to think that they really take care of their developers and treat them really good over there.
Square has fallen so far from the SquareSoft days (when they were good), it's not even funny. I remember when every Final Fantasy game was a huge event & a must own. Now.......bleh. The SNES run of FF III, Chrono Trigger, & Secret Of Mana seems like a thousand yrs ago. Same with their PS1 dominance.
And guess what Mr Spencer ? You still don't have one of that quality. Its a shame when you can't come up with your own new IP so you have to throw money at 3rd party games to get new games on your consoles. MS you're a joke and that's why I got rid of your lame console. I'm tired of your same games over and over Halo , Gears, Fable, and Forza. Everything else you have to throw money at to keep it off PlayStation.
@get2sammyb I figured they will just release titanfall 2 multiplatform
I think if Sony and SE would have made this PC and Playstation exclusive, I doubt there would have been a problem at all. I think it's the fact that people believe, including me, that Microsoft did this basically for a cheap shot. Also, I wouldn't have had a problem with a move like that anyway since I'm use to these Tomb raider games being on both PC and playstation. I think Microsoft really put themselves in a hole and it's showing with gamers. They really screwed the pooch.
When this generation was starting, MS didn't listen. But I'm glad things happened as they did because now they're listening intently.
And a quick note to those upset at MS for buying exclusivity, Sony just did the exact same thing with Dreamfall Chapters, paying money to keep it from releasing on X1, 360 and Wii U. And the game was releasing in just a few months. So to be angry at MS while ignoring what Sony is doing is a tad disingenuous...
@Demi_God
I read a story interviewing ex-ND devs, and they said it was pretty much run like a boot camp. High pressure, long hours, short deadlines, a TON of stress. Not a very pleasant atmosphere. Which is great for Sony because that's how you run an efficient business and get things done. And I'm sure they pay well. But, sometimes the money isn't enough to counter that kind of stressful work environment. And I think that's had a lot to do with some of the departures. Get in, make some bucks and get out.
Kinda tragic this is.tomb raider began on playstation and pc.and theyve just sold out to M$. Tragic..oh well heres to uncharted 4,the last of us 2,god of war,gran turismo 7,the order 1886,driveclub,littlebigplanet3 etc etc etc
@JaxonH Game developing in general is stressful, but I've been looking around for what you say you read and I can't find it anywhere. Are you sure it was ND? because from the way you describe it, it's more like EA than ND. in fact, what you said you read about Naughty is the opposite from what I've read, which is this all the freedom they get.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/11/02/naughty-dog-no-producers-no-management-just-us-working-as-a-team
@Demi_God
Not sure, I THOUGHT I'd read it here but I could be mistaken. They didn't come out and phrase it like that but I remember the guy talking about how stringent the working conditions were there. I know I'm not crazy lol, I know I read it somewhere. One of their former employees talking about what it was like there. If I run across it again I'll forward the link... I'm fairly confident it was ND, because I remember thinking "that makes sense" when all these employees started leaving.
Well, I know Amy Hennig didn't say anything about it, neither did the two guys that moved to IW. hmmmmm
@JaxonH Ahhhhh, I think you might be talking about Trendy entertainment... This is the article from last year in june.
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/7/4406932/game-studio-from-hell-outed-by-whistle-blowers
@Demi_God No, it wasn't anything "bad" like that, just that the workplace was stressful with a lot of hard deadlines and hours.
That thing with Trendy, that's like an abusive employer right there.
@JaxonH
I agree with you about the being pissed at MS part. MS isn't doing anything other console makers, including Nintendo and Sony, haven't done in the past but I think the reason people are ticked about this and not Dreamfall is that people actually care about Tomb Raider.
Sorry Spencer, but I'm still upset that PlayStation owners will have to wait until 2016 at least to play this game sigh.
(I won't own a XB1 until 2017, and I wouldn't play RotTR on a X360, no thanks)
I get both sides of the argument. I'm certainly not a fan of MS in general (I have to deal with them in a business life) but I can see why they were motivated to approach SE about a limited exclusivity. I think what incenses most people is the fact they continue to show they still don't understand what gamers want. If they would just focus on gamers it would be awesome. Consoles would sell and developers would create games for their console.
Phil essentially is a good sales guy and he gets well paid to make you like him. Unfortunately cracks are appearing in his facade.
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