Sony may want to start thinking about its statement for November’s forthcoming NPD report, as it sounds like the PlayStation 4’s ten month winning streak in the United States could be about to come to an end. Microsoft seriously slashed the price of the Xbox One for the holidays – enabling consumers to purchase the console alongside two games and a gift card for $329.99 at some American stores this weekend – and it looks like it’s worked.
Market research firm Infoscout claims that the Redmond manufacturer’s machine accounted for 53 per cent of hardware sales on Black Friday, while the PS4 could muster just 31 per cent. Unsurprisingly, things were even more dismal for last-gen formats, with the PlayStation 3 managing an embarrassing one per cent – although, curiously, the Japanese giant didn’t prepare any special packages for its ageing appliance.
While this does indicate that the platform holder may have slumped to a heavy loss, the data doesn’t necessarily paint a complete picture. The intelligence outfit responsible for collating these numbers tracks 200,000 shoppers, and encourages consumers to upload images of their receipts via a smartphone application. In other words, it’s far from foolproof – and last year the company declared an Xbox One win as well, only for the PS4 to come out on top in the following NPD report.
However, even the most ardent Sony supporters would be foolish to think that the PlayStation maker will continue its domination of the US. From what we can tell, the firm’s Grand Theft Auto V and The Last of Us Remastered bundle sold very well over the course of the weekend, but it’s difficult to compete with a console that’s retailing at almost fire sale prices – especially on a day where bargains are valued above all else.
Of course, the Japanese giant may not be too worried about losing out for a month or two, as it’s managed to maintain full price on its format throughout the holidays – and can always reduce its MSRP in the New Year should its lead start to slip. And that’s all assuming that these figures are accurate in the first place; we’ll find out in a few weeks, when the November NPD report is sure to send ripples through the industry.
[source blog.infoscout.co, via venturebeat.com, neogaf.com]
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South Park fortold this, Sony should have offered a 'brack fiday bundudu'
I didn't get involved in Black Friday here in the UK but I noticed some stores were offering far better XB1 bundle deals then they were for the PS4...the deals Game offered on the Microsoft system were amazing compared to the PS4 package offered at the same price....I've been with Sony since the PS1 but the amount of stuff offered in the XB1 was enough to have me briefly considering an impulse buy...
I'm no analyst and I didn't see all the deals offered everywhere but what I did see showed Xbox One deals offering more bang for your buck.
When I was in queue in Game I saw lots of Xbones being sold. It is clever because the people who were buying them were parents. They were been encouraged to buy all sorts of crap with them too. Game loves stupid parents - they are walking bags of money. Oh well,to me the PS4 is still the better console They only issue is that for the Xbones to finally outsell they have had to remove the kinect, endless price cuts and black Friday deals. A hollow victory if you ask me.
@ZeD well said
@ZeD This.
I read that the Wii U only mustered 6%. Truly dismal.
Either way, congrats to Microsoft - though I can't help but wonder what kind of (non) profit they made from those Xbox Ones...
I bought an XBone Thursday, mostly because I got the entire system/controller/kinect/and 3 games including Halo for $330, and I already have a PS4/WiiU. PS4's prices just weren't nearly as good as the XBone's this year, so it makes sense that Microsoft would sell more units.
My thinking is I don't care really, as long as my friends have a PS4 and it maintains good enough numbers for support then I'm happy because I can play the same games with my friends on a console I'm loyal to
Whooptey doo ! They're basically giving the console away they dropped the price to 350, bundled 2 games with it, dropped the price again to 330 with a 50 dollar gift card. It better sell better than the PS4 in its own country in that case. And lmao at the Greenburg idiot that works at MS taking pictures of PS4 stacks at Black Friday not selling as well as the Xbone. When you have idiots like that working for your company you wonder why everyone hates you. Phil Spencer is the only sane person at that company and he's only acting all nice and sane because they're getting their ass handed to them by Sony.
Hung out at a Best Buy in Dallas for a while. It seemed non advice seeking gamers were buying PS4 for themselves, while non knowing parents were buying Xbox for their kids . They were asking questions like "what's the difference with and without kinect?" Though I must admit both were flying off the floor displays
@Kage_88 I'm surprised the Wii U didn't sell a lot more than that. That bundle with the 4 AAA first-party Nintendo games almost made me pick one up...best deal in gaming, IMO.
LOL. This same firm reported the Xbox One winning last year.
http://blog.infoscout.co/black-friday-console-war/
NPD said hold-up broski:
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/12/12/november-npd-ps4-is-top-selling-console-xbox-one-is-fastest/
@heflys20 Yeah, I did mention that in the article. The data sample's not the greatest, so could still go the other way. Given the gulf in price, though, I'd be very surprised if that was the case.
I imagine it could possibly be closer than this data implies, though. Word-wide, however, I expect Sony to crush their enemy and see them driven before them.
According VGchartz, they outsold them by nearly 240,000 units world-wide last week.
Hey Sammy, I love your articles, I was actually thinking of getting a Wii U since my pc plays most other games and exclusives are too few; on Xbox one especially as most ms releases (ryse, dead rising 3) seem more like timed exclusives.
Seems like Microsoft was throwing everything but the kitchen sink. If the streak does end, it was a good run. Ten months is pretty impressive if you ask me.
If I had the money, I would have gotten the PS4. So far the only games I'm interested in for Xbox are Halo and Sunset Overdrive.
@kupo Yeah, the Wii U had some amazing deals. Keep in mind that official numbers are not out yet, so I'm really only waiting to see what Nintendo itself says. I'm really curious as to how much Smash Bros helped sales.
The fact that:
... Kinda makes this a hollow victory if you ask me.
But fanboys will be fanboys and there's lots of glee around the various gaming forums atm.
So many PS4 fanboys blindly hating Microsoft because the Xbox One might've sold better on black friday. Sony will have to try harder to sell people the PS4 if other consoles start to catch up. Competition is a good thing.
Unfortunately, this news doesn't surprise me. The Playstation 4 has had a couple of bad months what with Driveclub and a few other PSN disasters. I think there is more to it than just the xbone price cuts. The xbox gold live service (although not perfect) has a more reliable image than PSN and the xbone has had a couple of exclusives, while sony's exclusives are all still to come. Also, a lot of ps4 owners are now buying the xbone as a 2nd console (if I could afford one I would be doing that aswell ). in my view Sony have been sitting on their laurels for to long while Microsoft have been doing update after update.
I am a ps4 owner, but can see the xbone slowly closing the gap from now on in the usa anyway.
So when SONY said they sold 10 Million PS4's a few months back most gaming sites said it was not true but when this random company says the Xbox ONE won Black Friday most gaming sites(not saying this site) make out it's 100% true?!?! Hmm
@ZeD yep, what you said, why children send their parents to game shops I dunno, every time I hear one of them speak or ask a question, its quite clear that 90% of 'em don't have a single clue. It's like sending your 10 year old to get the car serviced.
@DragonSlayer1759
Couple of bad months? The PS4 has outsold the One 11 months straight the US, with the trend likely ending this November due to massive cuts from MS. I think it's entirely the price cuts, since the PS4 nearly matched the One in sales in America last week. They've both had a "couple" of exclusives. The One has aslo been experiencing disasters, particularly with the embarrassing Halo Master Chief collection MP issues that continue to persist.
Own both, there are both good consoles in their own right, however the x1s ui and controller drive me insane, and the ui in particular is just convoluted and ticks me off. Even the improvements they have made to make it better are interesting in terms of how they did it. My favorite was the update that enabled shortcuts via double tapping the xbox button. I watched the new features video for that twice to get down how to do it. Meanwhile, ive never had to watch any video to learn how to use my ps4s ui, its simple, streamlined, and the controller is rock solid. That simple opinion of mine keeps my ps4 as my primary for multiplats, while my x1 is used primarily as a tv box/media box via xbox media remote which has been the best accessory i have ever bought for a console. Game wise, im not a forza fan, but was less than impressed with it, dr3 was a disapointment, titanfall was fun for 30hrs or so, sunset overdrive which was the game that convinced me to get a x1 at launch was ok, not great, but ok. Then you have the mcc, which launched so broken i never would recomend it to anyone who wanted to do any co op, or multiplayer. The co op was laggy, severe input lag, just awful experience. I have a friend who has a gamerscore over 200k, who loves halo, gears, forza, and i actually have to convince him we should do an xbox session and even then it will only last an hour or so before he rages against being on it and hops back on ps4. These people buying them i feel like are swayed by not its superiority, but because of its price (tbh the white sunset bundle had me tempted to get rid of my day one but thats because im obsessed with white consoles).
I don't care who "won" Black Friday. I own a PS4, but want to get an Xbone eventually and strongly considered picking one up with the deals they were offering though I ultimately passed. Maybe next year. PS4 has remained ahead for the last ten months, but both consoles are doing well and that's a good thing for the industry. It's just as silly for Sony fans to rationalize Microsoft's potential Black Friday performance as it is for MS fans to be excited about this. I care about games, not brands.
Sony can't afford to sell the PS4 at a loss. After years of making losses they need to turn a profit.
MS has huge cash reserves and are doing what they always do when they have a problem: throw money at it. So, bought exclusives and now subsidised XBoxes.
I still prefer PS4, but if Sony wants to be able to justify the price premium of its product over the competition, it needs to see more high quality exclusives on the platform sooner rather than later.
This was expected as the ps4 has not cut the price to what x box1 has. Plus the ps4 need to start updating and catching up with software. I can see a big catchup for Microsoft this xmas holiday and it will be down to Sony team not the hardware.
@SuperCat I don't think it's a case of can't, more that they don't really need to. As far as I can see, they sold out of the GTA/TLoU bundle anyway, so cutting the price would have only made it sell out faster - and cut into their margins.
Microsoft was probably able to ship more to the US for Black Friday because they don't have to keep Europe as well supplied as Sony do. All speculation, though, we'll see.
Sony originally said that the PS4 was designed around prompt price cuts, so they'll slash it if they have to. As per recent investor reports, their entire mid-term business strategy hinges on people purchasing the platform so they can sell subscriptions to various services like PS Plus, PS Now, and PS Vue.
They'll cut in March - but only if Microsoft starts winning back market share.
@get2sammyb
Have you seen this bit of snarkiness?
https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/538419170472247297
Microsoft most likely won Black Friday, but they were practically bleeding money with those deals for the Xbox 360 and Xbox One. Though they'll probably make a lot of money off of Halo: The Master Chief Collection, they're probably losing a lot of money.
Nintendo may not of sold too many Wii U's, but they probably did at least decent with the recent release of Super Smash Bros. for Wii U. Plus, those amiibo figures are going to be making Nintendo a ton of money.
Sony probably sold a lot of PS4's this month, even if they didn't win Black Friday. It's kind of hard to tell exactly how well they did with the stiff competition there was this month, so I guess we'll see.
Its 1 day. I know what BF means but its still just 1 day. And even w/o the price cut X1 was still going to have a good month w/ Halo.
I think the Experience in Dec is Sony getting ready for early 2015 when they have a few good games coming out, X1 is all in now. It won't last.
Good, Nice to see Microsoft coming off as generous as Nintendo in there deals. I would like to see Sony lose some momentum and quit slacking off on their success.
@seeafish
Saying that everyone owns a PS4 comes off fan-boyish or completely illogical. It just been the console of choice for most.
I really don't care about this console war thing maybe in my teens I would have but come on Xbox has great games as well, I will be getting XBO just waiting on the SA drop cause it's dam expensive here.
I'll believe it after the official NPD is released and confirms it.
In the end though, doesnt matter to me which one sells better or not.
I still think Xbox One is going to win the NA market when all is said and done for this generation. The brand is really popular here still and while MS did hurt itself a bit early on, it responded quickly enough to recover. The thing is, PS4 is clearly much more popular than the PS3 ever was in this region, and it's not like NA hates the PlayStation, before PS3 and Sony going all stupid for the first few years of that console's run, PS was immensely popular. So while I expect X1 to eventually win, the gap shouldn't be nearly as big as last gen. The deciding factors will be the other markets. PS4 should take Japan but with the declining popularity of home consoles there, how much that's going to matter is up in the air. Europe is a key battleground and has been a Sony stronghold but if MS keeps moneyhatting, it may find that two or three exclusives (timed or otherwise) to turn the tide. China will also be interesting. MS made a huge deal about launching there, it seemed like Sony was gearing up for a big launch there, now neither is talking about that region at all.
@Hero-of-WiiU yeah that was a bit lame heh. To qualify, MANY people already own a PS4, and for that reason fewer will sell over time. Had I had the money, I probably would've picked up an Xbox over the weekend for exclusives and stuff. I wouldn't have bought another PS4 though if you see what I mean.
@ZeD hmm I agree, shallow and pedantic.
Gaddd xbone!!
The only thing that matters is that Sony's PS4 is in profit and has been so for some time. The PS4 has also already sold millions more units to customers than the X1 and I have a feeling will continue to do so for a long time yet. Christmas is when parents purchase these systems and lets face it, they know very little about what they're purchasing. Its the gamers who purchase there system of choice throughout the year which will make the deciding factor on this generations clear winner. I would never count Microsoft out though as they have very deep pockets and are not afraid to use it. They understand that in a business like this sometimes you have to loose money before you can make it.
so basically Microsoft were having trouble shifting more consoles so to help that they reduced prices massively to get rid of them to try competing in Novembers sale records. while Sony didn't reduce their price much and still did rather well considering the price difference.
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