The PlayStation Network has been on and off for three days now, and it's not good enough. I'm confident that Sony is working around the clock to restore the service, and I'm not one of those people that lacks patience, but I am disappointed at the Japanese giant's communication on the matter. At this point, we still don't have a clear outline of what the company's doing, when it expects the service to resume, and why this is happening in the first place.
We can be pretty confident at this point that the company's online infrastructure was struck by a heavy DDoS attack, in conjunction with a wave of holiday traffic. For this, the format holder has my deepest sympathies. I'm not an expert in online security, but I do know that these kinds of cyber assaults are extremely difficult to protect against, and I also feel the manufacturer's frustration for the way that this is being misreported by so many corners of the mainstream media. However, surely it's up to the organisation to control the message?
I can understand the firm being quiet on Christmas Day. At that point, I assumed that this was just a result of heavy holiday traffic – the kind of outage that affects many online services every year. It's never ideal, of course, but with a swift resolution, it would have been quickly forgotten. We're way past that point, though, as this is now a global story being reported by television stations, newspapers, and colossal online publications. The manufacturer's response, meanwhile, exists almost solely on a Twitter account.
This would perhaps be a little more acceptable if it was the primary PlayStation handle, but outside of a few retweets, the majority of the company's communication is coming through SCEA's relatively small support channel, Ask PlayStation. PlayStation Europe's accounts have no information. PlayStation UK's accounts have no information. The PlayStation Blog in Europe has no information. PlayStation.com has no information. In fact, it's been more or less radio silence from the firm for the past three days, although it has just posted a statement on the North American PlayStation Blog at last.
I understand that it's the holidays, but this is no excuse; I took time between courses of my Christmas dinner to keep Push Square readers up-to-date on the PSN outage, and have spent the majority of my "time off" so far trying to find out more information to share with you. I don't want a slap on the back for this, because it's my job; you demand the latest information on PlayStation, and it's down to me to report it to the best of my ability. Would I rather be resting than writing this article? Yes, but that's not the point.
The worst thing is that this isn't an isolated incident. Whenever the PSN goes down, the platform holder always takes an age to actually acknowledge an issue. Who could forget the famous hack in 2011, when the firm took several days to even explain what was going on? What about earlier in the year, when Lizard Squad brought the network to its knees in a similar attack, and nothing was said for hours? I know personally that I would have a lot more understanding if I knew what was going on, and what was being done to resolve things.
It all just leaves a bitter taste. Again, I can't begin to imagine how difficult it is to maintain a network across three systems, and provide a quality service for approximately 110 million users at the busiest time of the year – all while cyber attacks are rife. I also have absolutely no doubt that the company's working around the clock to get everything back online. But when a small Twitter account is the only source of information on the ongoing issues, I find it hard to fully sympathise. Indeed, the real problem here is that most people don't have a clue what the heck's going on.
Do you agree with Sammy's stance on Sony's silence, or do you think that he's starting to lose his rag due to a lack of Christmas rest? Try to stay calm in the comments section below.
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Just to be clear: while I was proofreading this article, Sony did post a statement on the North American PlayStation Blog. I've amended the report to reflect this, but I think all of the points still stand.
Agree, it sucks to be left in the dark, its been 2-3 days and while almost everyone knows what is going on with this, a little statement could mean a lot. Im pretty sure they dont want to accept they been hacked (attacked) by DDoS, but still
I do want to add that PSN biggest problem is Sony's arrogance :/
Just out of curiosity a 3rd party site with simply the online status for the Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo online services wIth maybe the companies latest service status quote would get a lot of hits. Ive googled before why I couldn't play cod on my 360 and ended up on an obscure forum looking at some guys latest post a few mins prior saying how he couldn't connect in Canada or somewhere, now a one stop for a quick service update would be sweet.
Sony's response has been terrible @askplaystation 3 copy and paste responses show the lack of communication. Thanking us for our patience, well my patience is waring thin now. It doesn't help they have continued with their planned Xmas communications ie Store sale limited time and multiplayer challenges while PSN is down. We need to know what's going on with a time scale.
Good valid article and some constructive criticism for them. Sony, snooze u lose, information black outs are so 1984 lol....
@get2sammyb i'm sure we all understand your disappointment even before the ddos attacks lizard squad warned them that they were going to attack but it looks like sony did int prepare anything for the attack
@SKC_Diamond My understanding is that this isn't as easy as putting a few sandbags on your front step when the weather forecast warns there may be flooding. I just feel the impact of this outage could be mitigated by some real communication from the company.
Since Lizard Squad said that they stopped the DDoS yesterday, all we had to do was wait for Sony to clean things up, but as you said Sammy, people don't know what's going on. I have all the reason in the world to believe that while the DDoS has stopped, we're still dealing with that 100 people trying to get through a door thing going on. Except they are all real this time. I'm sure that a bit after PSN got up and running earlier today, word got out then... y'know.
@get2sammyb @Lucky_SouL maybe there using this time to finally improve psn so that this will never happen again
@SKC_Diamond If that is the case then as said in the article, they should let us know. All I'm seeing is a copy & pasted message on FB from OS Australia, no word of what's actually happening & I am losing patience.
Playstation store is up & running, PSN still down on my end though.
Spot on Sammy.
We just want information! It feels disrespectful and like they don't care. Obviously they do, but seriously, they need to tell us that themselves.
Poor communication is spot on. I changed my hard drive just as this was kicking off so I thought I had wrecked everything by doing so. Even if the website had a traffic light for telling us the status of the service. Red for down green for ok. I relied on your reporting for updates. Thank you. Since the PS4 was released the quality jas been pretty poor. Overpriced store prices, shocking 12 day of christmas sale, poor online service and pretty dreadful day 1 releases - AC Unity/driveclub etc. Oh yes and the fact that i couldnt even play my downloaded games when the service was down. Pretty shocking and probably not legal! Any solicitors online to see wht the law says?
So glad COD AW multiplayer is terrible because if this online psn went down during the time when COD MW was out I would have been going mental not being able to play that !! anyways I've just finished GTAV best game ever and now I'm just starting farcry 4 . There's plenty of great single player games to play at the moment
@BLPs Last year the eshop was crippled for ages from new owners around Christmas, also Lizard Squad don't give a rats about the big N.
Hear, hear!
Commented on the communication, or the lack thereof, earlier this evening. It's not the actual outages, the racing game that doesn't work or the firmware that breaks my PS that p*sses me off, it's Sony leaving us completely in the dark about it....if not outright lying in our faces.
Language - get2sammyb
Who's to say this won't happen again next month and the month after that etc?
@BLPs It was longer than this though.
@get2sammyb
Great article, Sammy. I am sure a lot of other readers are feeling the same way. I know I do.
Expect a sarcastic humourless tweet from kaz, won't cut it this time I'm afraid.
ive been on destiny alday on ps4, just been booted, to find xbox live is now back down on xb1, so its not just sony ms are struggling, but in the past ive found ms just say nothing and sweep it umder the carpet never actually admit or say anything, so sony are usually better at actually saying something
PSN is back up for me
Im in uk north west btw its just come back online
Sammy I agree with you on this. The communication with paying customers has been woeful. If under attack or compromised inform us of this in all regions. If its maintenance or repair work also inform us.
Also its time to actively hunt down these idiots and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. These trials should be very public to discourage other idiots from thinking about copying these attacks. The odd accidental leak of a hacker's home address would also be very soothing to frustrated gamers. The possibility of getting ventilated does wonders for one's concentration.
@BLPs Well I haven't had problems today myself so it isn't the whole of PSN down you seem to be blowing it completely out of proportion a bit.
One thing that seems to have taken place post PS3 is top Sony Playstation management learning from past mistakes. This will certainly be on their agenda come the New Year - even if DDoS attacks do bring PSN down again, I'd expect it to be dealt with a lot better on the public PR side. Hopefully we won't have to see if this prediction comes true.
Crisis communication 101 - get an official message out quickly as soon as possible when something widespread goes wrong. You don't need to get all the details out there right away, just explain there is knowledge of the problem, it is being worked on, and provide updates as they become available ideally with a timeframe for resolution. These outages have happened enough and so much time has elapsed from the first until now that the crisis communication team could have EASILY come up with a template for this situation to bang messages out pronto. You're right, it's not the technical team being lax, but the PR/Comm team is simply not doing its job effectively.
Regardless of what's happening, I just wanna say I (and everyone else, I'm sure) really appreciate your hard work, Sammy!
Sony had a great start with the PS4 and it looked as though they had won the console war pretty early on but thanks to the PSN downtime, lack of communication and Microsoft's aggressive price reductions and deals I see the XBOX One smashing the PS4 in 2015. Its a shame as I prefer my PS4 to my XBOX but I can't kid myself any longer. Sony isn't instiling consumer confidence in me anymore when it comes to the future of this generation
@WARDIE
Just give it time. The Xbox 360 was winning last-gen (I am not counting the Wii) & then Microsoft made the mind-blowingly stupid decision to go all-in on the Kinect. And Sony's exclusives started hitting big & turned the tide.
But make no mistake, Sony is an extremely arrogant company. It took stones to release the PS3 at $600 and the only really good, exclusive game for a long time (before the first Uncharted) was Resistance: Fall Of Man. And their decision to go with the cell processor set them back years. But they eventually figured it out. Plus when your only real competetion is Microsoft (who will do something stupid again eventually), & with the PS4 still selling well, their motivation may be at a lower point than it should be.
All they need to do is fix all these network problems they are having & actually get their AAA exclusives out the door in working condition (cough.....Driveclub) & not underwhelm (Killzone, etc.) or just flat out suck (Knack). And enough with all the PS3 remasters & cross-gen titles.
In other words, Sony needs that "system seller", next-gen exclusive that they had in the PS3 era that knocks everyone's socks off & shows PS4 owners that they mean business & give people like me (who are on the fence) a reason to drop $400. That's their trump card over Microsoft. They just have to play that card.
Finally was able to get back on hr ago 😃 TIME TO GAME!!!
Won't let me sign in to psn saying terminated wtf any had this problem
@WARDIE
I agree with you mate I to see the Xbox one smashing the ps4 in 2015 but not just in pricing and Sonys lack of communication .. I think Sonys ignorance and arrogance towards the consumers in this have dealt them a big blow , little tweets here and there are not good enough and I fail to see how after the downtime and everything else including the lack of communication are going to bring confidence back .. I also think MS support , PR etc is far more superior to Sony and the tech side of things also .. ive been a ps fan since the very first console but now ive lost complete confidence in them .. Sony your ignorance is not only costing you money but its costing you your loyal fan base and their confidence in you to provide them with something that your competition can do better .. yeah xbox had the ddos attack to but they were back up and running within 24 hrs ..
@get2sammyb thanks mate your efforts to keep us informed to the best of your knowledge and taking the time over your own holiday season is very much appreciated ..
I just want service. For years and years I refused to join PS plus. I finally gave in after pestering from my brother and a legion of fellow gamers on the internet, and in the past couple months I can recall multiple outages. If the online was free I'd have nothing to say but I paid them to access online right now. Doesn't help that certain games are built around online connections even though they're single player. Tried playing Dragon Age but couldn't get past the "connecting to servers" screen before the menu. Finally I had to manually disconnect from the Internet. It was the only way the stupid game wouldn't hang on that screen for eternity
At least if Sony told us what they were doing it might cut down on the negative comments that we get on articles during these outages. Most of them are from upset people just wanting answers or ones not sure what is going on.
@get2sammyb first off thank you for taking time during this time of year to report on something as frustrating as this. Also I concur Sony must greatly improve on the PR response during these outages. An Email, official response, even a basic apology with a few details. As paying customers for a service we deserve some explanation on why a product we pay for is unavailable. 3 days for a subscription based service adds up, especially when so many games are reliant on that online service to be playable. Happy holidays everyone. See you in the new year.
When you say PSN, you mean Ps4 right? As I've been playing online on the Ps3 perfectly fine pretty much all during Xmas when I've had the time. Ps4 has been a no go, but its not like I've had nothing to do over Xmas that I've just had to play on the ps4. It is still amusing reading the comments accusing Sony of being ignorant & arrogant from entitled crybabies that crop up in every article regarding PSN, never gets old.
That's it I'm taking my PS4 back and getting an Xbox One...
@alecty17 will you really? if you stay i'll add you.
@TVRFLY Sony needs to make their stuff more secure like Microsoft.
I don't like how they are not specific on the reasons PSN is down.
Makes me believe what lizard squad said, that they including microsoft are incompetent and have monkeys on keyboards running their security.
Couldn't agree more.
You know why I like playing Smash Bros. with friends in the same room as me? Because it always works. It's garbage like this which is precisely why I have never embraced online gaming, and PSN in particularly seems to be about as stable as a two-legged stool.
Um if you guys forgot Sony pictures was hacked too. So not only had Sony been attacked twice but their network had been severely compromised twofolds. There is a lot more going on behind the scene then just getting the PSN back up, they have to secure all severs first across all of the branches of Sony. A company will talk when it's good and ready to. So just sit down and wait for them to give an official statement, maybe actually spend time with your families this holidays instead of focusing on journalism and heresay.
I cant get any psn related features to work here in canada. I have never seen it this bad.
Still down north UK this is pathetic and let me get this right, the only reason we may get online today is because these Lizard kids have stopped their attacks?? So we are at the full mercy of these low lifes?? Thats reasuring, glad I converted my whole family (me and 3kids) to PS from xbox at the begining of current gen consoles, I feel my money and trust have been well treated!!???!! XBL was off for less than 24 hours, you can come up with all the excuses you want, this isnt good enough. People may say that Sony was under constant attack and MS wasn't but you have to ask yourself why and the answer is because they can! MS have measures to stop a constant attack obviously. I thinjk maybe its because MS have their servers in multiple locations so can switch to unaffected servers where as Sony (probabaly because its cheaper) have all theres under one roof. Smooth. I might be wrong but with the lack of communication we have to come up with our own theorys. Either way Sony sucks and MS obviosly don't.
I ageed with #49
I agree with #43 hit em where it hurts, money is the only thing Sony care about.
@xMEADx mine came back on last night in Manchester, around half ten, unless you mean the republic of the Scottish isles. Regardless its still pretty cruddy. Fifa online was working all day yesterday for me but when I attempted to try load out I was ignored. Seems somewhat inconsistent too.
I feel like I've seen this article, or a variation of it, about 10 times before, but I always agree. Sony's communication with consumers sucks.
We don't need to go there. Thanks -Tasuki-
The strangest thing was how many people didn't know that by unchecking the connect to the internet box you were able to play in offline mode. I discovered this myself when my own ISP went down.
I couldn't load Dragon Age and AC Unity wouldn't load missions. After unchecking the box they both worked.
Wasn't this something that they should have made sure people know about? Is this on any support pages on their various websites. I got thanked by a couple of people on another website I post on as they clearly had no idea of this work around.
Instead of spending loads of dollars for some timed exclusive stuff in games like Destiny, Sony should put more money in theit PSN. People are forced to pay for online gaming with the PS4 so they have the right to play in their holidays.
I agree wholeheartedly, silence is never the answer in these instances.
Look at Overkills debacle with the updates for Payday 2, more people were ticked off at the no comms than the time it takes.
Sure its frustrating but when you are in the loop you at least see a bit of progress.
I'm a little p*ssed that I can't seem to change my password. I'm able to get onto the network now, I could buy something from the store if I want to so why can't I change my damn password? I've been hearing of massive hacks on both PSN and XBL and passwords and credit card information being stolen and leaked. I learned my lesson not to use my credit card on either of these services after what happened in 2011 so I'm not concerned about that, but the last thing I want is some scumbag getting a hold of my password and then hijacking my account because these highly paid morons can't protect their services. I am really, really becoming disenchanted with modern day gaming. Buy the frickin' console, buy a game, get home, set it up, turn it on and play. Should be as f**king simple as that, but these a-holes want to control everything. The least these rich slobs could do is provide good service to those of us who give them our hard-earned money.
I'm kinda dissappointed, really. I mean, I love gaming so
much but seeing all these people reacting this way
makes me wonder if people do even have lives either than
gaming. I love some me time with games but I also have
a life, friends, family etc. Somthing not even an online/
offline game can replace. To see gamers acting this way
over a service problem is such a let down really. It's
Christmas people,like really now???
@Picasso20
Just because people get p*ssed about this doesn't mean they don't have lives outside of gaming. I give good money to these companies to provide decent services because frankly the consoles don't function properly if you don't. All I ask in return is that my account information gets protected and I have a working service more often than not. MS is pretty decent at this, Sony has been hit and miss and mostly miss for quite a few months now. If it was like back in the day when things were simple and online wasn't so integrated into consoles, I wouldn't give a damn, because singleplayer could still be played without going through all sorts of dumba$$ loopholes. Sadly, that isn't the case in 2014, so, when I have to pay $50+ a year to get the most out of a console, you better believe I'm going to be angry when these people can't get it right, and I will be downright furious, rightly so, if I find my information has somehow been stolen. And the worst part is the complete and total lack of care for the consumers. Sony will pay some stupid firm to put out some idiotic report, just like they did back in 2011, to come out and say 'Sony handled everything perfectly, by the book.' Sometimes when it comes to customer care you throw the damn book out the window.
@Kohaku
100% agreed.
https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/237/~/psn-status%3A-online
Go fufil your online Destiny, if you can.
@Gamer83 totally agree man! I'm so lucky that all my gaming is being done on my Xbox one this holiday lol.. I won't be back on my ps4 til bloodborne and the order. Xbox went down xmas eve and since then it's been up for me. I can only hope to god psn gets its stuff together by the time those games come out cuz I'm super pumped for both.
@Punished_Boss_84 I reckon that articles BS im in australia and still unable to log in to psn or play anything online ..
I agree. Sony make it worse on themselves during times like this. They already have irate consumers through a lack of working service and they add to that frustration by not saying anything about it!
Recently I have had a terrible experience using their "customer support" and overall I'd say their correspondence with their customers from support to top execs needs a huge improvement. As does their online structure.
I just got a ps4 for christmas and I can go throw the motions to get my ps3 psn on but it needs me to verify my email im like ok cool not a problem but they dont send the email when I go to hit resend it just tells me there was an error with communication with the server worst part is now I'll either have to wait and hope it fixes itself or call in monday after 4 days of having a 500 dollar paper weight and to make things even worse xbox has 24/7 hotline for this type of thing where playstation does not. All I need them to do is manually send an email nothing crazy hard to do but now im gunna go 4 days with thr most expensive paperweight I've ever had
Cant help feeling a little bad for Sony, bit of a shame to end a pretty decent year really
@Thraxxy
"PS4, PS3 and VITA are presently online. Intermittency may be experienced when accessing some network services."
Reading helps, that's why I said "if you can."
@MadchesterManc
I keep seeing the word 'entitled' misused on gaming sites these days. People who pay for a service are entitled as a customer to expect that service to work and entitled to information from the company providing that service when it doesn't work. That is using it in its correct context.
Yeah, the communication between Sony and it's paying subscribers is non-existent. Any other subscription-based service would be catching much more hell for silence during an attack that could put subscriber information in danger. Sony is known for their arrogance, especially when they're seemingly "on top" in sales. They need to tighten their bootstraps and start communicating things that paying customers need to know, I'm sure this isnt helping their already-in-the-red financials.
13,000 accounts and passwords were leaked by the way, this includes XBO, PS4, Amazon and maybe a couple of other places.
Here's the link, watch your accounts everyone: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/11314805/Hackers-leak-details-of-13k-users-of-PlayStation-Xbox-and-Amazon.html
I just gave you more info than a multi-million dollar company --charging you for yearly service-- did. Think about that.
I agree with Sammy.
This sort of thing was frustrating in the PS3 era, when the PSN was absolutely free.
Now that they charge you for it, even though I think Playstation Plus is a bargain at the price, it's unforgivable.
I want to find the hackers and scratch them up bad. But I also want to hiss at Sony for continuing to get caught up in network security breaches, unscheduled downtime, and poor communication on PSN issues.
These offline issues are 100% Sony's fault/responsibility. No excuses at all.
It's all an intricate 20th anniversary plan guys.
https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/548939363477102593
@get2sammyb it isn't good enough especially if your on next gen & paying for the service ! Not aware of the ins & outs of maintaining a network but I'm not impressed that this wasn't prepared for , high traffic or not it was going to happen with Christmas sales ! Sony seriously need to have a better customer service system even if it is just an up to date Twitter account !!!
1 question: Did it knock out Sony's services in japan too or was it just in the west? I get the impression a lot of the communication troubles at Sony are due to language barriers in the corporate structure.
@Jazzer94 the mans a breath of fresh air in this age of corporate drones.
I'd also like communication with the police and politicians as to what is going to be done moving forward.
@eLarkos
Thing is, whether they are or not (and it looks bad when the competition is back up and running more quickly) the lack of comms is the problem. They need to be putting out constant updates to their paying customers. I got more info from here and Reddit as to what was going on which is very poor. If I compare to that to my experiences with the likes of SKY or even my local gym when the water mains burst Sony's communication is inferior. Even now, do we know if any account details have been compromised?
@BertoFlyingFox Is there any evidence backing up those claims? They could just be making it up, "for the lolz." Not a your problem of course, but I've never heard of a hacking attack, and with DDoS attacks trending, you'd figure real hacking would've made headlines.
I got back on Sunday evening, I don't know how many exactly but ALOT of people returned their PS4's after the first couple of days and bought an Xbox1 (I work in retail) that's just at the store I work at so Sony have lost alot of money. Also i'd like to point out it was through NO help from Sony I was able to reconnect I had to manualy enter and change my MTU settings and a friend told me how to do this but if it was left to sony I might not even be on yet as I reset my MTU early yesterday to it's original setting it would still not let me connect, poor show all round Sony. I'm sorry but yo suck
At least I think it was Sunday evening, it was a long weekend as i'm sure you know and I was more than a little sozzled I have to say but yeah, it was Sunday eveningish.
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