We've just got time between courses of our Christmas Dinner to tell you about the latest PlayStation Network issues. A whole host of errors are being reported around the web, from sign-in issues through to maintenance messages. As was the case overnight, this appears to be a result of heavy traffic, rather than anything especially nefarious. [Update: Some sources now claim that this may be a DDoS attack instead.]
Sony's said that it's investigating the issues as we type, so it's going to be a fun holiday for those unfortunate engineers tasked with keeping things online. Are you having problems connecting to the PSN? What issues are you experiencing? Keep us in the loop in the comments section below. We're off to scoff some Xmas Pud.
Update (18:00PM GMT): Still no sign of these network issues clearing up. Some people have been able to login over the course of the afternoon, but it seems like access is up and down at the moment. We're currently getting error message CE-34861-2 here in the UK. Sony's said on Twitter that it's still investigating, and that it appreciates your patience.
Update (20:00PM GMT): There's still no word from the Japanese giant on when normal PSN service will resume. On its support site, the company wrote that it has "no ETA available" but that its "team is working to fix it as soon as possible". A company representative concluded: "Thanks for your patience."
Update (21:00PM GMT): A short but not-so sweet statement from Sony on Twitter: "We are still looking into the PSN issues reported earlier. Thanks again for your continued patience today."
Update (23:30PM GMT): While this outage initially seemed like heavy holiday traffic, it's starting to sound more and more like a DDoS attack. BBC is reporting that Lizard Squad is claiming responsibility for the outage, with Xbox Live also going down today. While you may see some sources describe this as a "hack", though, it's important to remember that it's unlikely that any data has been compromised; instead, the group has overloaded both services' servers with false traffic, causing them to collapse.
Update (01:00AM GMT): Sony is continuing to work on the outage, but there's still no time frame for when service will be resumed. It's promising to provide further information on the PlayStation Knowledge Center.
Update (11:00AM GMT): The latest on this from Sony is that it's still investigating. However, while not everyone seems to be able to get on right now, we just tested our PS4 (in the UK) and logged on straight away. Presumably that means that the service is coming back on slowly, but we may have been lucky. We'll keep you updated.
Update (20:00PM GMT): We've posted a new article on the ongoing outage: PSN Offline for Second Day as Attackers Bring Servers Down. Refer to that for further updates.
[source twitter.com]
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I had issues earlier today, but I was able to sign in a bit later. Might've been a lucky break. Either way though, I'm not turning off my PS4 today.
I read some claims on Google+ that a group calling themselves "Finest Squad" are claiming responsibility - a DDoS attack. Don't know if that's the case or not.
I've had no issues, but a friend has.
Psn down in maryland
In the UK the network is down again.
To be honest, i'm done defending Sony and the PS network.
I've been a PlayStation fan right from the beginning and i have to say that these continuous issues with the PlayStation network is just the icing on the cake of what i would say are the worst two years in gaming, in my personal opinion.
At no point in the whole of my gaming history have i had such a poor experience in games (being buggy, glitchy or outright broken) to hardware either not performing like it should, or external capabilities upon which said hardware relies.
Surely Sony could have foreseen such an issue arising considering it would have a pretty good idea of how many PS4 units have been sold, and how much capacity would be required on the network in order to cope.
But ifor it to fall down at the first hurdle............ It's inexcusable.
What makes all of this worse for me right now is that my son can play his XBOne online without issue.
Us, as PS users, can't even log into the PlayStation forums.
Not happy! I just add some moolah to my Psn wallet and want to buy a game i can play on my ps vita tv... Cant go to the psstore... If it's online again does someone have a suggestion?
I remember when I got my Wii U last year. The network was barely usable due to an insane ammount of traffic. It took a good while to get to where I could download The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD and Hyrule Historia that came with the system. I don't have a PS4 yet, but for those who do, I hope that, like Nintendo, Sony is quick to resolve this issue.
I got my son PS tv that's how I found out about it. It's still down here in Connecticut.
Seems to be working ok for me here.
I had a minor issue last night but I can get online and play games just have problem with my ps app on my phone at mo saying servers down for maintenance but hey obviously the influx of users means a boost to the play station community lol
Past hour or so I've tried going online on both Fifa and Advanced Warefare and had no luck at all! Was working fine earlier on, real shame and feel for those who have got a PS4 today but can't even play online!!
Its STILL down here in Ireland, (17:30 25th Dec) Disappointed to say the least! MERRY XMAS,Sony!!
Live is apparently down now as well - both supposedly getting DDoS'd.
Still down here in South Africa (19:45) and I really feel the need for competition . Having a great time with family but need me time and ps time!!
Scrap that about it workin earlier, it's only working on and off. Signing into Destiny is also immpossible. I'm ready to get the pitchforks if it's that Lizard Squad again. They did say they were planning to do this. Seriously, do they think they're some righteous force for punishing Sony? The people they're really punishing are the ones who got Christmas gifts related to Playstation. They're just a bunch of jerks, and I hope they punihsed by the law soon.
No it is reporting maintenance here in the uk for me
Have added an update, but there's nothing new to report really. Sony says it's still investigating.
NETWORKS STILL NOT WORKING FROM LAST NIGHT!!! I LIVE IN NOTTINGHAM (UK)
im here in usa georgia merry christmas to to the whole world i cannot sign into psn
Looks like I will be playing xbox 1 all day again. ..
Lmao glad I don't really play that online sh*t. Sucks for people who rely on that crap or only play online games.
oh yeah love you guys over there in uk merry christmas
to be fair i dont rely onit but i just got fifa 15 and wanna bust some heads online!!!
Not been able to play anything online all day today in the UK.
I can get on the store now though.
Its been down here in Pakistan aswell.
Working now in maryland
Honestly if this is Lizard Squad again I don't blame them, I blame authorities for not getting these fruit cakes already. They had more then enough reasons to go after them.
Still down in Winnipeg, Canada
PSN down, Live down... And yet again I find myself running to my Wii Us comforting arms... Cradle me Nintendo, cradle me like a baby...
@Boerewors Haha, at least you've got something to play.
Damn you Lizard Squad! Seriously what's the point of DDoS attacks!?
Trying to sign in since 11 am still no success
Maybe Lizard work for Nintendo lol. Seriously though, what are lizards reasons for all this. If it is get at the large companies, that's one thing but surely they can see that it affects all the people they are supposedly standing up for. Upsetting peoples Christmases can only make them more unpopular with the masses. I just cant get my head around them.
PSN down in Virginia. Got my new PS4 this morning, didnt already have an account, have been trying to make one, but every time I try its just an error message, and eventually started saying they were doing maintenance on the page. Cant wait till its done, im ready play some games!
PSN down in Ohio. I literally just got my PS4 for Christmas today and it came with one free game to download with four choices of games to pick from. I cant even download the game I want and I have no PS4 games so now I have to wait until the PSN login and server situation is resolved. Very disappointed!!!
PSN down in Kingston ny...and rosendale ny area..everytime I try to sign in I get error code 80710092
Down in Tampa so annoying just wanted to relax and play today! It's always something with them I feel .
Poor effort from playstation.
I just hope this is resolved before tomorrow :/
This is very annoying how a multi million pound company cant keep there servers active and above all hack f king proof
Second time in under 24 hours with no solutions planned. Why is there no scheduled maintenance planned? They should have a back-up plan knowing the holiday was coming or did they know Christmas was the 25th this year?
They need to sort it real quickly I. Want to play on GTA 5 in the ssssnnnnoooowwww
In Emirates also PSN down.
still down in denver, co
I know you are upset but please watch the language. -Tasuki-
Still down in lebanon 😡😡😡😡
Playing clash of clans is much better than thies company
This is your second warning. Next time there will be consequences. Please watch the language -Tasuki-
@lizabeth_raven hhhhhh really u have bad luck 😄😄😄
Ukraine - PSN down. Can't login, can't open PSN store neither on computer nor on any of my consoles.
@Alii yeah this has sucked.
Ok guys just a friendly reminder, I know you are upset but please let's watch the language. Thanks
@Tasuki ok sry but really thats get me to nervous😔😔
Xbox Live down too. It's really time to play your Steam PC games!
Playstation down😡 ok now I going to play wii u 😆
@Alii it's doing my head in they need to sort their heads out
@Alii: Not a problem. As I said I know you are upset heck I would be if I got a new system on Christmas and couldn't play it. I am sure Sony is working on it as we speak and @get2sammyb will have updates as soon as he gets them.
lovingly praying for this to get sorted out my life is on my playstation
Hi I would say I am loosing my patiance no mentioning that I'm fiuming about being offline since last night and not be able to connect for 24hours..
STILL OFF IN SCOTLAND..
Also my mate is off in Slovakia.. Hurry up guys lets do something with it..
Still It is down in Poland. Been havin those problem since back da home. Greetings and wish ya a merry xmas.
You know what sony dis gotta stop mmkay you see the thing is i need to be able to sighn in when i want to mmkay so fix this NOW!
£350 console that still can't play CD's so I decided to get Sony's MU subscrition....and can't use it 5 out of 10 times because PSN is down.What abou some compensation Sony?Free stuff maybe?Ps Plus not too much of a show stealer too.Get serious,for sake!
Please watch the language -Tasuki-
Our son has always been a loyal XBOX fan; very rarely any issues that were not solved thought Tech Support which is 5-STAR in my opinion; they ANSWER the phone and always solve the problem, AND they are courteous. He talked us into a PS4 and we not only bought it, we bought games and a headset....and the FIRST DAY, IT CRASHES.....SONY you should be ashamed and this is NO WAY TO GET LOYAL CUSTOMERS. Here is NC, our son has been trying ALL DAY to play with friends to no avail....all he could accomplish was signing up for the membership for a year...SONY: Is it going to take your engineers who are working diligently to fix the issue; a year to figure out why online gaming is not working?
@get2sammyb you know it was lizard squad not christmas traffic
This is kinda annoying but I was going to play the crew but nope couldent work and I checked the Internet connection the and it failed.
same here in australia
@SKC_Diamond I'm sure that's not helping. If we keep giving these guys publicity, though, this is only going to get worse. Let's blame it on Christmas traffic.
Its 12:57 here in the afternoon an ive been trying for a hour to login but it wont let me keeps giving me error code 80710092 im giving up for now but later tonight i hope it'll let me sign in
Made a few updates to the article. Please can you watch your language, or I'll just close the comments off. Our moderator @Tasuki has better things to do with his Christmas Day than editing your swearing.
@getsammyb yea that is true i just wish that someone could get rid of them forever there starting to be a pain in the ass
@Paranoimia They didnt claim responsibility, The lizard squad did. They said they would on Christmas. The Finest Squad is actually Ethical, trying to help find out who the Lizard Squad is and stop them while Sony and Microsoft fix what happened. Story Below if you want to see the article.
http://www.techworm.net/2014/12/playstation-network-xbox-live-down-lizard-squad.html
Still down in Seattle Washington. Really
bummed just wanted to have a day off and play my games but everything is down. Alpha sapphire for me it is then I guess.
@get2sammyb Thats very true, well just say its Christmas Traffic lol. Do leave the link i left in the previous comment up though so people do know there is a group that is trying to help.
@Alpha Yeah, no worries. Have added about the DDoS attack in the article, but don't want to give too much attention to these people - it's why they're doing it, after all.
Some people on here really need to gain perspective. If this is the worst thing that happens today, then it's still a really good day! Can't play your games? Try some actual human contact. That's what I'm having to do! Thanks to the PS people for working this holiday to get this fixed!
Hey guys
Quiet annoyed about not being able to log in on my new ps4 got today,I don't want to take my disappointment out on here so I just would like to ask,does anyone know when it will be back up for the UK.?
@get2sammyb: Yes like drinking and shooting duck lol
both PSN & XBL went down today due to a DDoS attack
guess the prats have nothing better to with their time than ruin everyone elses fun
Didn't get much PS related stuff this year so haven't logged on all day, sucks for people getting new games/consoles.
on my ps4 i logged in thismorning and went to put in a new 20$ code ps store was down so i restarted it and turned back on wouldnt let me log in with online keep getting (america NY)
Got the crew for Xmas, can't play it at all come on Sony, I have faith
@Jazzer94 it's really annoying bro new console can't even play AW Mann
@get2sammyb When do u think online Will be up and running
Beyond irritating, no Internet at my wife's house and I Come home to psn being down. Thanks hackers, punish the gamers. Why don't you just go leave a flaming bag of poo on Sony's doorstep and leave the end users alone. Psn down - colorado springs CO.
Still down in Oklahoma. Sony should have this fixed ASAP!!!!
@get2sammyb Alright thank you, and i understand and agree with you, they dont need any more attention.
@Alpha when do u think it I'll be back up
PSN still down in NY. Keep getting Error Code 80710092.
@Footypanda I dont know, but i hope at least around 12Am tonight Eastern time, I just got my Girlfriend a Vita bundled with Borderlands 2 and minecraft and my internet has a unmetered time from 12am to 5am everyday. Accidently left Windows update go crazy after i did my computer. I have Exede Satellite Internet since i live in the outer town area. :/
@Alpha ok thanks,hope it end well for u and I with ur gf vita and my ps4,appreciate ur help !
why dont you guys hire the the people who are doing this so it cant happen again its starting to get really old now guys and oh my daughter her first gaming day with her dad for not having better security so thxs for that
@viper6332: Um ok but we are not Sony dont see how us hiring these guys would help the situation.
come on sony, you can fix this, i have faith that it will get solved soon. just hit lv 49 in final fantasy 14ARR and my parents left to go see family so im spending christmas alone, i was hoping to play my playstation 4 so im praying this can get solved, you guys are smart. down in Spokane, WA
504 pm psn still down everybody loves playstation i know i do . sony is still my fav.
Here in bremerton wa and can't get online can only watch ps4 live cannot get in the ps store or sign in anymore after signing out of pan
@ralph12 meeee too! i have faith in them
Bottom line we pay for the playstation network service. With all the revenue that they receive from us for this service you would expect them to have it in check be it "heavy traffic", "DDos attacks" or any other issues they believe may happen. Guess we will all have to wait till SONY gets their act together.
If PSN was for free then i would have nothing to complain about. just my opinion and thought i would leave it out there.
@Spitbull_23 psn IS free isnt it? the only thing you pay for is the games you buy and PS Plus
Whether it's high traffic or some form of hacking it's inexcusable, either way Sony need to sort out potential demand for the servers knowing the time of year and all the new consoles and customers they have gained..If it's hacking then they need to sort out the security aspects. I've had playstations for all the years I can remember and these issues seem to have got worse since we have all been charged for the privelege of playing online. Maybe the service needs to be free again if this is what's to be expected!
@leimornyx sorry its PS plus. you right
pathetic sony, simply pathetic, nintendo is working, xbox is MAYBE working? but not YOU, why not?
Very disappointed, I have no games for my PS Vita and I just got it for a Christmas present!!!!! Also, psn is down in AZ
im just trying to keep a positive outlook. its christmas for crying out loud, SONY is doing what they can to get this sorted out. im a firm believer in going with the flow and letting things run its course to inevitably fix itself
This is bs got the crew cant play it destiny cant play it.
Please watch the language -Tasuki-
@chemical_Ali just you wait, those hackers are going to get their just deserts eventually
@pompeyledge @RobynDBC It's not Sony, it's a DDoS attack, and Live was taken down too. There is little that anyone can do to overcome such attacks.
@Alpha Fair enough. Was only reporting what I'd read. Never heard of Finest before. And if they're 'ethical', that's probably why... people doing "the right thing" rarely make the news.
In Belgium it's still down. I CAN'T PLAY DESTINY!!!!((((
I don't see why people are blaming Sony. XBOX Live is down too. I have both and I can't play either Lizard Squad did warn us this was going to happen. Maybe the Sony haters should aim there frustration at the hackers.
@xj0462 Wrong, XBOX Live isn't working either...
@Jin_20_01 also waiting to play destiny lol
The people blaming Sony are just upset and looking for someone to blame that's all. Yeah if this is indeed the work of Lizard Squad they did warn us but the people complaining more then likely didn't pay attention to the warning.
Still I feel for them as they were excited to get the PS4 and now they can't even log on. I would be upset and disappointed too.
@WARDIE strange I was just on my XB1 and it seemed to be fine... Not that it matters because I got a new PS4 game and thats what I'd like to be playing.
@Madd_Hatter401 I haven't tried for the last hour or two but I do have a couple of friends that are able to party up on PS4 and I still cannot. I can't even load my friends list. Guess I'll give the XBOX another try then.
@Madd_Hatter401 Yep XBOX Live is still down Cinema blend are also confirming this too.
Down in Denmark Europe. Group call lizard squad are claiming it them on FB. Into prison your arse is this size(0) 1 day later(O) . Karma is gonna be painful on these little dbags
@WARDIE sorry to hear.. hope one or the other works for you at some point. Have a merry Christmas.
down in portugal too on past 5 hours... cannot log in (error 80710092).... please solve this soon Sony...
I really just got a PS4 this Christmas morning with only the game Destiny and I the PSN is down so I have nothing to do but go to the Playroom and play PS3, down in Jacksonville, FL.
@Paranoimia It's not Finest Squad that did it, it's Lizard Squad. I just watched an interview with both leaders and Lizard Squad is claiming responsibility while Finest Squad is trying to bust them.
So how and when will this be fixed..?
I just got my freaking ps4 today on Christmas ready to kill myself I was so tired of waiting and now that I got what I wanted it turns out I can't use my codes to get DLC and I can even login to my freaking psn all it is, is constant error codes every single time and I have tried all the suggestions from having the router reset to taking 20mins to go over the setting and make sure everything was right
Jeez is this ever goons to get fixed I really don't want to switch to Xbox But it's not that hard to do
Still down in Australia
Down in Ohio, My problem with this is being a PS Plus Member and paying Monthly for a service that You can't use, and I just rented a streaming game that I have no access to play for the last ...How many hours now??? I hope Sony is planning on giving refunds.
PSN for the PS3 Not WORKING!
Still down in Kitchener Ontario
Error message 80710092
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Yeah still down in aus, how long before sony fix this problem?
So sick and tired of this, its bad enough that I'm alone on Christmas, and now I can't even play online. I'm so done with PlayStation, I'm going back old school, its Nintendo 64 and ps1 from here on out. Goodbye psn
We better be getting refunds or atleast free PSN money.. Paying we cant even use..
Please watch the language -Tasuki-
@chomerly Xbox is having issues too. I don't know if they were expecting this many people to get Xbone and PS4 for Christmas. I haven't heard from a single person into gaming that didn't get a PS4 or Xbone.
Having problems connecting in LA. In the meantime, time to play the Last of Us story mode for the umpteenth time. Who's with me??
They need to atleast stabilize the servers, or figure something out cause this has been down for too long already.. its aload of crap..
Have updated the article with the latest information. It's sounding more and more like this is an attack, rather than your average outage.
Always DDoS attacks, weather its WoW PSN or xbox.. Kids need to gtfo and get a life..
@chomerly while i understand completely where you are coming from, and I am in the same boat, as are we all, but the network hasn't fallen down at the first hurdle so much as its been tripped up. It is near on impossible to protect against a ddos attack, and can only be reacted to, but this take time due to the nature of the attack. Its not so much Sony Im annoyed about, its the turds that are doing this on Christmas Day, especially when kids who have just got the console today are potentially not able to use their gift. I just hope they get caught up with eventually and justice is served, but very much doubt it. Unfortunately these are the days we live in.
@get2sammyb how much longer do you think Playstation network will be down for? any estimated time or?
This is some grade A BS. Can't sign in, and my nephew just got a PS3 and now can't sign up. Come on Sony, get your s*it straight...
Its not sony, its the DDoS attackers uploading a heap of BS into the servers and its crashing them.. But yeah sony lift you're game and fix it asap! please and thankyou.
Did it work now?
If this is a cyber attack I am very worried about Sony's site security and the fact that they have a lot of account user information and payment information on file in there system..
All of Us PSN users need to be watching the bank account.
All they need to do is get a better security system designed by someone else besides there own company..lol
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/lizard.squad.finest.squad.foils.hacker.groups.planned.christmas.day.xbox.takedown.gets.members.arrested/44749.htm go read was posted yesterday...
No it doesn't
Im up on PSN, ITS BACK UP FOLKS for how long idunno so try get as much use as possible before its attacked again >.<
Can anyone else confirm? Sounds like service is being resumed?
Try it man, im online on CoD: AW right now..
@GypsysPearl It's not a hack - it's an attack. Imagine a doorway, and over 100 people trying to squeeze through it at once. What would happen? That's what's happening here - except 99 of those people aren't real.
That was just a joke Stonedalone420..where is your sense of humor...and im still Down in Ohio.
Still down here in australia , was working fine here a couple of hours ago ..I know xbox lives going through the same atm but can guarantee theyll have their issues sorted a hell of alot quicker than sony will .. spend too much money building some mediocre games and fixing them than on online security , do we get compensated for the days/weeks this could take off our online memberships etc ..
Sorry I misread that, thought it was a hack..gotcha. Maybe its not an attack, maybe its the gazzillion people that got a PS4 the last few days,,,lol
@Spitbull_23 on ps3 or ps4? xD
The server is back up you guys and add me on PS3 it's KoolandFresh1 I have all the latest new games
Still down in Virginia
Wtf im online in aus right now... On ps3 so its up..
@Koolandfresh1 If you got CoD:AW add me Thugzlife13
I just wanted to buy Dark Souls II and Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris
EDIT: PS3 back online here in Portugal, woo hoo, at least I can buy Dark Souls II
EDIT 2: Nope...went back offline, couldn't even buy the game! Come on...get your things together Sony!
Ps4 still seems to be down everywhere
Anyone with CoD advance warfare add me Thugzlife13, keen to party up and pwn noobs..
Is it up In canada yet
@stonedalone420 im in vic mate and its still down here ..
I live in Australia. I got a Ps4 white console for Christmas yesterday. I was exceedingly upset at the fact that I could not play online. I couldn't even connect to psn or internet browser. It is not my internet modem because my ps3,ps vita, surface 2 RT, surface pro 3 and gaming pc all connect to the internet in a flash. This is very disappointing. My friend lives 10 min away and his one works fine. I will be looking for compensation if the issue is not withheld and terminated in a week max. As i purchased Ps plus and 5 other games specifically for the online experience. Of which I had none. I would take it personally to thank you if you alert me about future news concerning this coincidental issue. If you do want to alert me my mail is ***@gmail.com (spam or virus folders will be detected, noticed as well as reported as confirmative abuse and further penalties will concede to further deduction of maximum penalty towards email, and/or Microsoft accounts)
I wouldn't post your personal email address in a public domain like this - get2sammyb
Maybe only the ps3 psn is up and going .. prett stupid that sony couldnt have ran this scenario as a possiblilty of what could happen in the future when building the psn and had a way to fix it before it happened then these hackers wouldnt be sitting in their grandmas basement sitting in their reinforced fat geek chairs with their acne cream in one hand and a rag for cleaning their glasses in the other , must be a sad life being rejected by every girl you meet hey ...
How long will the psn servers be down?
Well Ps3 network was down since around 4-5am not long come back up soo could take abit..
So like hours or days
Hours not days, should be up soon you on ps3 or ps4?
Working now for me here in the uk..its really sucks that this has happened again though..why do those guys bother with such a pointless waste of time? claiming responsibility like it makes them cool..tsch.
@Thraxxy Im in vic too man, reset you're router and turn ya ps3 off and on for it too take affect.. and you should be good..
@WARDIE thats why i said MAYBE at the end of it
these attacks basically broke the dns-servers of all the isp's here in Sweden last time them lizards were at it. Many still have servers struggling with the load, even after patching and fixing their software. Some implement a temporary fix by shuffling people over to googles name servers which in turn puts a larger strain on them. Others just null route all the traffic so that no one reaches the ip's of lets say psn until after the attack has stopped and the other customers can still reach the rest of the internet so to say...
Basically it passes through and/or crashes already at the ISP level of things so that people don't even reach XBL nor PSN.
I'm on ps4, how long until the servers r up
cant sing in man am sick of this
I just got a Ps Vita as a Christmas present, I can use the internet, but I can't sign up to psn. It gives me an error. Also the whole DDoS attack thing isn't happening with xbox, because my 360 is working fine.
How long this sh.t gonna take to get fixed I'm getting pissed off now any one no ?
I can't believe this I just got the ps4 been waiting for so long to play it now I can't playhopefully someone can fix the issue and also @get2sammyb in having a problem on my GTA account I was clearly lvl 302 and when I get on my GTA account reset my lvl to 3 can you help me with that all my stats are there and also my psn is down in Florida
@Sindarion Hmm,well i'm connected to psn but can't connect to any online multiplayer.Confusing..hows everyone else doing? *edit i tried signing out and signing in again -can't sign in.great.
Note that I can enter my psn information but gives me an error nw-31456-9 cannot connect to the server within time limit all the time
@special_donkey the login servers AND the gaming servers are both affected as far as I've understood. Cant tell for sure since i can't login at all myself atm.
short version for time til' solution: until sony's techies has been in contact with the larger affected isp's techies and said isp's has blocked out the incoming traffic. PSN will be down. Its really hard to block it only on the level of the servers receiving the traffic at sony/akamai. Thus they almost certainly has to work on it with the isp's and the people running the backbones.
So its not only up to sony and/or microsoft technically speaking.
Im sure they're working as quickly as they can but these attacks combined with everyone spamming login-functions does put a waaaaay above hightide level of stress on the servers.
@proctor2121 this is not a official sony support forum. That said, the errors you're getting basically means what it says: your connection timed out due to the server dying from overload. i.e.. the problem we've been discussing here.
To put it even simpler: you managed to log in, then the server went offline. The server is offline due to the reasons several of us has mentioned above your post.
happy holidays anyways
That being said do I have to have any concern about personal info like cards and stuff
no. its not "hacked" per se. its a overload type of attack.
The ones doing it are sending a lot of shit, they're not taking anything.
@pompeyledge You seem to be the only logical person talking about this topic. I mean honestly, Ive worked my ass off working to pay for a four-hundre and twenty dollar gaming consol. If Im gonna go out of my way to spend my own damn money for 'entertainment' then I damn right sould be ENTERTAINED. Im done with Sony's BS and even slightly more than that, Im disappointed. Id never wouldve expected a group of 12 yr olds in their mothers basement to be able to hack a multi-billion dollar company. Ive had my PS4 for what, less than two months, and this is attack number 3. Following that pattern, I wont have enough fingers to count how many hacks there will be by the end of 2015. Geez! Youre completely right; this is getting very old very fast and I will not hesitate to trade in my PlayStation 4 if this common trait carries on in the direction it appears to be headed.
@Sindarion Ahh,i see -well being signed in isn't any use anyway with no functionality obviously.i'm off to bed then..fingers crossed everythings straightened out soon y'all.
@Tasuki I'm sorry but I just find it absolutely hilarious when people think you guys are Sony
@ObviouslySheik it is quite amusing indeed.
It is quite funny (and sad) that people still don't understand what a DDOS attack is and why you can't just "fix" it on a server-level (actually, there is one way, which is to take the servers down til' the attacks stop, but i don't think the angry people here will like that for an answer)
I have a friend who's basically worked for 22 hours in a row trying to block the attacks on the ISP-level of things. I'm quite sure the people at sony hasn't gotten that much sleep either, probably swapping techies every few hours.
Still down here in Connecticut USA!
Still down for ps4 in australia
@proctor2121 I get the same error on my ps vita
Still Down in Ohio, now cant even play any games offline, not sure what that is about, it was working offline for a short while, now everything freezes up. I am still fairly new with this PS4, this is not the first outage for Me but the first time I cant even play anything offline.??
Is this bc of the games keeping track of trophy's and all that sort of thing?
That would make sense then if You still cant play, but I just want to play and don't care about that at this point, sheesh.
Sony was able to take money out of My bank account automatically today for My PSN plus membership, smh, I know get2sammyb, its not related...lol... just saying its kind of ironic.
It's down in North Carolina as far as I know me and a couple of other friends cannot get any access to our PSN but I'm going to bed so let's hope that tomorrow morning some kind of change. Good night and Merry Christmas everybody!!!😄
PSN still down in Ohio. This is ridiculous...
@Footypanda Thank you Its working somewhat right now, itll let me download updates for games Firmware, but wont let me sync trophies or anything else on PS4. On Vita i cant connect to the server to even sign her account to the device. So its not working there. Its Limited, Very Limited. Hope it gets fixed soon.
@get2sammyb Read my comment above so you know. I haven't turned my ps3 on at all so i wouldn't know about that. I live in Michigan, of the US. Just so people know. Trying to help keep things updated as best i can.
Still down in the UK this is ridiculous all the people that got ps4 for Christmas can't even do anything on it. I just got mine yesterday and already Im having so much problems I've bought games, downloaded them went to play and it says unlock the full game? I didn't just pay 50 pounds for a damn demo get this sorted out. Maybe I should of asked for a bloody Xbox smh
Im noticing some improvment here in Virginia, it lets me acess the login screen for PSN and lets me click create an account, then tells me I need to go online to do so. I could not do any of that earlier today. So its not a break through, its something. They are trying hard to get this back up and running for us you guys. We will all be gaming in no time! cx
Yesterday I could login to psn every now and again guess it was just luck for me, but when I couldn't login it gave me , Sony entertainment servers are undergoing maintenance. My brother who also has a ps3 was connected the whole day
@lizabeth_raven I hope Your right, I am still a little worried as to why I could play Minecraft offline a few hours ago but now I cant even get it to load??
I have a question if anyone can answer it, I know this is not Sony and not a support site, but, when I put the PS4 into rest mode now I get series of three fast beeps, anyone know what that means?? never had that before either.
im back online here in florida.
Back here In South Africa..I think
So have just comeback from my local EB games with an xbox one console set it all up and guess what ?? Im online playing bf4 and cod ghosts and advanced warfighter as well as titan fall ... im not waiting hrs , days , weeks , months etc for sony to het the problem resolved .. adiós ps4 just another obsolete machine to go in the cupboard with the wii , ps3, ps1&2 , sega dreamcast and 3do machines ... psn is a big let down .. sony you fail to deliver once again ..
Oh n btw all my ps4 friends say still down in australia and not even a glimmer of it being resolved .. we are the customers and the customer is always right ...
@Thraxxy I hope you fall in a never ending hole...
@Thraxxy I was told psn was working in Sydney maybe try signing in now?
heip me some one its 12.20am here in georgia .usa and psn still down dec26 been hoping we gamers and playstation lovers and xbox can help sony out and join each other .in a union of connecting for a just cause.one world one people
this is bull i cant even play my downloaded games when its down and its pissing me off
i am still getting scheduled maintnance as of 1232am dec26 .all people .unite lets change the world. sony .. people we are sony.....let love rule.
PSN Down in Asia, including heartland Japan, also in Western Europe and North America. No idea when the servers will be back up, imagine if playstation store is down it must be something serious because Sony is losing money every 30 seconds, they would never take take the PS Store off line
@bubby480 u back online??
usa...georgia still down psn. sony .......... we people will unite and stand together for freedom... love. and justice. sony...keep doing a good job. we are sony.
@crni_dzavo i wish nope down still in usa
its bad real bad i hope sony gets those people that as attacted us people i mean the people from every country should take a stand .and unite as one people. for good. long live freedom and love..every ps4 owner as been attacted. sony we are sony.
@shann___ nah just got my son to check his ps4 and its still down ..
@alecty17 like I said im not waiting forever and a day for the psn to come back up I get 2 weeks off a year as I work offshore on an oilrig I want to enjoy some online gameplay with mates not sit wait for something that they obviously have no idea how to fix yet
@Thraxxy I'm sure it will be working tomorrow night at the latest psn has never went weeks without serivce
@Thraxxy: It has nothing to do with fixing, this problem really can't be fixed at all. What it is is the attackers use bots to overload the servers in essence the servers think a bunch of people are logging in at one time and the only way to fix that is not to have an online service.
We should get compensation for this. So annoying
good lord psn its not sonys fault. psn come back. 107am here in georgia ,.u.s.a still psn is down. sony we will stand with you.... we people are sony
@Pitbull50: It's not Sony's fault that the network is down and I am sure the ones behind it wont compensate us for the problem.
@Tasuki well its not my fault its done but I'm the one paying for consoles and games I cant use
@get2sammyb
How about a piece on the ever growing attacks on PSN (or gaming services in general)?
The last year I've been growing more and more concerned bout he future of gaming, because we want to rely heavily on online based services, but the attacks are getting out of hand. There is no way MS and Sony can really avoid or counter it, and small "attacks" and hacks included we're talking thousands a day already.
My biggest concern at this moment is that I feel that this will make the price of Plus and Live skyrocket in a few years, because just for DDOS attacks alone it seems they have to double the capacity ánd think of a new way to redirect the attacks to never let the customers notice a thing (these are guesstimates of a mate of mine who knows a thing or two bout it). And even when you double the capacity and spend 10 times more on security, you're still not truly prepared for what's to come: you can't solve a crime, that hasn't been committed yet.
Years from now I know I'll be playing games like Mario Kart 8 and SSBU on my original console, but I'm afraid games of this generation on the PS4 will be lost in time completely. For now that's isn't much of a problem (), but I expect some nice things to come. If in 10 years everything is cloud based it'll mean it'll be either unplayable or unpayable. And as long as every game needs 5gbs worth of patching, we can't just boot up the discs in the future.
It's a growing concern where Id like to learn more about; we hear bout the attacks on a daily basis, but never what this could mean for us gamers in the (near) future. And not just gamers, cause you can bet your ass that Netflix, Hulu, Spotify will eventually be targeted just as heavily as PSN is now....and extra costs are usually not eating up profit with these companies, they make the prices of products/ services go up.
This is particularly scary for me because i had just bought agame from the psn store when it started acting weird i checked my bank account and the transaction was made but i never got the sony email they always send you when you use the store.
Still down 6am north UK.
Canada still not working
@Boerewors prices wouldnt skyrocket prices would dissapear we would have a whole new era of single player gaming while they work on making a less hackable system of online gaming.
@Pitbull50: Ok? I never said it was your fault. These things just happen.
Is psn working in. Australia now
@boerewors I agree totally with you on that point , bit also at some stage companies like MS and sony are going to pass on the cost of having to fix the mess up caused by these hackers over and over again , thus raising the prices of games and subscriptions for us the consumers .. not exactly fair when you consider the costs of games and dlc etc .. I think alot of ppl will go back to pc so as to avoid at least the subscription costs ..
@XxRileyxX no its not back up in australia yet at all ..
@Tasuki I understand what a ddos is but I also think that maybe as this has happened before maybe sony may have come up with a gameplan as to resolve the issue alot quicker
Just signed in
Anyone know why I have been able to access the PSN store from my vita with no issues all day? I mean I have 0 luck doing it from the console, but if that is the case I shouldn't be able to get in through the Vita. -_-
Still down in Ohio. Console is acting whacked out to..freezing up and not shutting down properly...I also have a charge on My bank account.. I am guessing its the subscription fee that was due, but no email from sony..only a withdrawl from them from My bank.
I don't play any of my PS3 games online, and I don't even own a PS4 or Vita yet.
I'll be annoyed if PSN is still down when I try to update my trophies tomorrow though.
I still don't get how a bunch of bots can overload the server, don't You have to register Your console to use the server? There has to be a way to control that. No one should be able to log on the server unless there registered with a legit console.
PSN DOWN IN DUBAI SINCE 25 DEC 21:00 hrs. Gulf time.
This might be My last time purchasing an online console, Im going back to old school if things get to rough, I don't have any PS4 friends anyway, all My friends are on xbox...I just had to try this...smh
Is the psn servers down in the uk or not
I have several friends that "share" their psn account, i'm not going to write how it's done (i've never done it and sony can check ) but effectively you and a friend can share your games, like take it in turns to buy new releases and share them with a friend so they dont have to buy the game, I know it works I have friends playing GTAV that never bought the game and another friend playing the destiny expansion using this method and yep you guessed it he didnt pay he shared. These are 4 prople off my friends list and i'm sure theres thousands more doing it, I know for a fact it can be done. So with this in mind it's no wonder Liztard Squad effortlessley bring down our network time and time again when it's this easy to corrupt. I'd also like to point out that I don't do this and have paid for all my games. Also i'm not even sure if this sharing games thing is actualy illegal and they can be punished by Sony but if it isn't illegal it certainly should be.
Anyway the point which I may have missed is that I don't have much confidence in a company that allows this kind of behavior and i wouldn't expect Sony to be able to do something about DDoS attacks when they can't even stop their system being abused by the average joe and theres no hacking involved. I only found out about this sharing mess a few weeks ago and with these constant interuptions i'm starting to think moving to PS from Xbone might of been a mistake. Sony I am losing confidence in you on a weekly basis
@Xx-racer-xX Still out in the West Midlands UK
Still not working in the Channel Islands either, c'mon Sony, pull your finger out.
Thank you pushsquare for NOT mentioning the name of those lowlife hackers..
come on, the only reason they're doing this is becuase of publicity through sites like these..
Won't let me enter my play station plus online code
I wanted to play FFXIV with my friend who plays it on PC. Now i'm just sitting here doing nothing.
i would happily accept ff xiv for free as compensation sony!
Is it working in Australia yet
What the devil is this? Whats up with all these comments?
PSN servers still down in the UK due to a hack attack at Sony. The Daily Express reported that Sony received a warning with regards to a Christmas Day attack on their servers from a group calling themselves, you know who. (this was in a national newspaper so I'm not sure how true it is.) Either way, the servers are still down over here (London.) I was told that they should be up and running by Monday.
@Gunbolt It's working for me in the UK.
Still not working in Guernsey...
Monday that's crazy. This is so annoying. I don't care who says "these things happen" it's unacceptable that the user gets impacted like this. We should all get compensation. Why would we continue to buy games knowing that when the company gets attacked all we get is days without playing and nothing in return. If we as consumers show we are loyal to the company year after year we should feel appreciated when shit hits the fan. Lady's and gentelmen, the shit as hit the fan.
Come on Sony, do you care about us? It's a huge corporation because of people like us
I really like Sony so I'm going to hope that I don't have to experience this again but if I do bye bye Sony and hello Xbox. I was born into the ps family and I would like to keep it that way but me and my friends can make changes if needed.
Please watch the language -Tasuki-
Yes, this is annoying but let's not act like it's the end of the world. Not defending Sony or anything, as obviously I don't have all the facts, but man, people are acting as if they don't have water to drink.
All I've been playing for months is an online only game (destiny of spirits) and you know what? I'll play something else while it's down. It really isn't the end of the world. And if I couldn't play anything, I'd read a book for a change.
yeah my ps4 log in no problems (on a side note as xbl was attacked too I tried that and it worked fine as well)
@Tiger_Kattzz xbl went down too it was a DDoS attack on both of them
You must be one of a few then get2sammyb. I bought my son a ps4 for Christmas and he still can't create a psn account. It lets him get so far, then it says 'servers down' or words to that effect. All he can do is play campaigns at the moment, like most people.
You would think that big corporations like Sony would have back-up servers, or something to combat attacks like this one. It is pretty poor in todays day 'n age when a group of kids can turn over company's like Sony and Microsoft. It wouldn't be too bad if they targeted Apple, you know, company's that treat their staff like dirt.
Why isn't it a program written for these server to stop all incoming signals from a DDOS attack after so many messages flood the servers, so that this kind of thing dosen't happen. And are these tracable?
Still down in australia
These people are either fanatics - always campaigning against big corporations, or they've been hired to attack them. It's weird how Sony got hacked not too long ago because of their film relating to Kim Jong Un, and now they've been hacked again.
@Paranoimia it was Lizard squad, not finest squad. Finest squad were trying to stop them but they failed.
Please watch the language -Tasuki-
My copy of metro 2033 redux isnt working today, I was wondering if this could be the reason of it? Plz help
still down in the uk im not to fussed to be fair with it been xmas its the ppl that just got a ps4 i feel bad for they will be gutted plus the staff working over xmas time away from familys to we need to show some respect to them i guess but most of all sony need to fix this so it never happens again this just makes sony look bad and also dropping the standard like this is bad feed back to all gamers on ps4 lizzard or who ever is to blame for this attack or what ever they want to say it is .......its not sony that are paying for it ........its the kids who got it for xmas that are paying for it the most such a shame
@naruball Very true, also it slowly coming back as well. You cannot dismiss something that was created in years for a day's misfortune. Plus I higly think that Sony should not be in blame. Because a DDoS attack is not an attack to gather information from the servers but to just it down. It is a tool of oppression. We, the players are being denied access from something we enjoy on Cristmas eve is a very insulting deed.
And as the servers are coming back up. I thank Sony for the all the hard work they have done in preventing them from ruining our fun any more.
For the people constantly saying the network is down...plz fix...when will it be back up...Sony has a portal for that...u can check the offline/online status thru there...onna nother note...I kinda feel both ends of it....while I do agree that ppl should do other things with their time....like fondle a breast...read a book....perhaps shower....I also feel like we do pay good money for our systems and we do deserve some type compensation.... I mean shit...if not that...an official explanation would be nice...not a cover story...not jus any cover story....a very bad cover story...since sites were already blasting the attack anyway....i feel the sorriest for the new users....they have no idea the realm they stepped into...but users like me that have lived and raged thru the destiny launch issues...and the disaterclub fiasco...its jus another sony disappointment...honestly...if this is the future of online gaming....I'm pulln my Atari 2600 out the garage...maybe fiddle around with my old NINTENDBOT...this is the worst
It's working but slightly sluggish on the Vita and it seems to be fine on the PS3 as well, but for some reason it loaded the Japanese PS Store UI on the latter first time around. The PS4 can't get on at all and on the website, I just get "Site Not Available".
@RobynDBC My Xbox using friends have been having trouble with their online connections as well. I'm sorry your family is having trouble with your new PS4 on Christmas. It's a problem for my Neighbors as well as they got 2 $50 playstation cards for Christmas and couldn't use them. I hope someone goes lizard hunting soon.
Large inprovement with my PS4 here in Virginia, Usa. With going in to create an account I can get as far as putting in an "Online ID" but when I type anything in, Then it says "Connection To The Server Timed Out." I could not do any of that Yesterday at all. So im noticing things, they are getting this done for us you guys, I figure if its this far already, they may have it back up by tonight.
@wickedproxy ; thanks for your considerate response. It is only my teenage son who is experiencing the issue but he found an alternative, he is playing XBOX which is his favorite anyway. He asked for a PS4 and he got it and he IS playing the stand alone, just can't play with other friends who also received one. At some point, SONY will figure it out, but for parents whose only intent was to make their kids happy, SONY is a huge disappointment.
@Slime_Rothstein : I agree, an OFFICIAL EXPLANATION would be very nice for the customers. That is ALL we want really, acknowledgement and the truth from Sony.
Does any one no when ps4 is gonna be back up and running ?
@chomerly if you don't like it DON'T PLAY IT. It really is that simple or can you not comprehend that?
@chomerly if you don't like it DON'T PLAY IT. It really is that simple or can you not comprehend that?
@chomerly if you don't like it DON'T PLAY IT. It really is that simple or can you not comprehend that?
This is a joke the amount of millions that use have made and u disappoint a lots of kids on Christmas Yous should be ashamed of ur selfs so called sony with all that money u have coned from all of uz and u can't even make a good server uz need someone to make a server that is un hackabile and it is possible and u can't say it's not the pepole that hack ur severs shoud be given a job buy Yous to better ur tec side of things think about it and I can say if psn is not on buy tomorrow I will be taking my ps4 bk and getting an xbox1 god liest Microsoft get there severs bk on unlike crapy sony Yous are so unreliable and shod be kicked out of computing industry . Rant over
ok, so PSN is down. seems like Sony has it all figured out, now charging for Online play/multi-player and sometimes forced Ps + memberships to play certain games.
What's this, the third or fourth attack on PSN with no explanation or compensation from Sony... is it really going to stop anyone for buying more games or buying add-ons KNOWING Lizard Squad or whichever idle threatening "cyber terrorists" takes it down?
Sucks, sure but where's the means to an end? And they've threatened they could take down Wall St? Pretty bogus all around that nothing is being done to preempt this situation or make it better.
If anything I agree and think we should all get Ps4 (ps +, vita, etc.) freebies. Just another strike for Sony. The fact Sony was warned about the threat and did nothing is laughable; they're weak. Can't handle their own Network's safety and can't release a satire movie they wasted almost 100 million on. Hopefully we will be back on soon, but it'll just happen again just like last time.
@saytionne 100% agree man. They at least need to acknowledge these more frequent attacks.
@saytionne true tht in what u say
In all consideration , and out of good customer relations, they should at least send all PS4 Members and Plus Members ( really need to compensate them) a coupon for 50 percent off any game or something.
you know you guys that keep crying for some kind of restitution need to step away from the bong
there not going to pony anything other than a day or to of double xp points or some thing alike for your game
i purchased a brand new PS4,,system failed after 2 1/2 weeks,i ended up with $450 PRE_OWNED REFURBISHED UNIT after 2 1/2 weeks of shelling out the dough FOR A BRAND NEW UNIT
no matter how much i displayed my disapproval of this Sony customer support basically said take it or leave it and the customer service agent HUNG UP ON ME!!!!!
what do you do,thay got us by the short and curlys and theres is absolutely nothing you,I,,,or any amount of complaining is going to do to change it,,,,they know this,,,,and they do not care,,,,this was grossly apparent by my experience with Sony Customer Support
not only was i presented with either except a refurbished pre owned unit or congratulations on your shiny NEW $450 paperweight,,,,,they were extremely glib ,and condescending about it,,,,i had never been treated like this by customer support,SHE HUNG UP ON ME IN THE MIDDLE OF A SENTANCE!!!!
so if you think for a second that their going to "Make this Right",,,,,,hold on,need to stop laughing and regain composure,,,,,,almost there,,,,,not quite yet,,,,whew,,,,OK,,,oooooookay,,,,all righty then
your only option is to bounce to the one and only competitor ,,,,and both Microsoft AND Sony know this,,,and to be honest do some research,the grass is NOT greener on the other side of the fence
I believe that we should be give sort of 50 percent of all games points and what ps has to offer this is no way to treat the ones u give u ur wages to keep u going yet u skank uz like we are nothing don't forget we all made sony with oor owen money buy buying your faulty products yet u can not be reliable jokers sony
@HooPharted not sure about the US laws but UK consumers are protected by the sales of goods act. If your system fails within the first 6 months of ownership take it back to where you purchased it from. It is their burden to prove that the item was not inherently faulty when you brought it. They can't do this generally and UK LAW stipulates if they can't do this you are entitled to a replacement. Manufacturers are covered, it always falls on the retailers.
heres the thing,,,,they had to know that the influx of new users were going to impact the servers,,,it was cheaper for them to sit back and ride it out until everything settled down,,,,throw out a fake apology and say were the heros,,, we fixed it
not to be a conspiracy theorist because im not,,,,i would not be surprised if they are using "hackers" as an escape goat to mask their incompetence and basic "i dont care" attitude,,,,and of this i speak from first hand experience ,,,,they DO NOT CARE
oh no,,,,here they stab you for even more money at the check out counter for an "extended warranty",,,,,so if you only scraped enough dough together to get the system,you run without a safety net,,,hold your breath nd hope for e best
you get a manufacturer 30 day warranty,,,,if my system had failed at 31 days i would have a $450 paper weight,,,,and again,they know this,,,,and again i realized that was my only option and with a week and a half left i had to do it
which is what I was saying, bong or no bong. they don't care. it's not like we are going to boycott Ps4 or make any kind of impact to make anything better, greener, or maybe the correct use of periods and commas in consideration of punctuation and grammar...
It's one thing to complain, but I think it helps for some of us to progressively discuss what's happening... those of us that aren't natural tools with poor attempts to ridicule others.
It just seems like this whole "network" bologna is one of those things they know they can get away with and just don't care. With their revenue and technology, this shouldn't be a problem.
I love Playstation... Sony even. Ps4 in the den and Ps3 in the office. And sure, s••t happens but Sony needs to get it together. This should not be new to them and we, the consumer, are the only reason they continue to provide a product/service.
So they're (Lizard Squad) right, they need to fix the Network and protect it, upgrade it, whatever it!
...maybe they need to hire someone from Lizard Squad. Hahaha
Well im getting past the online id stage but its still just timing out, ah well thank god fir the boxing day footy. roll on tomorrow hopefully sony will have a grip on things by then!
@HooPharted
They will care enough when everyone starts canceling subscriptions and returning consoles, when it hits there bottom line, I see Customer Support and appreciation stepping up when the profits start falling. Watch and See.
hehehe laughing at all the ppl thinking this forum is Sony. lol. Wise up and maybe play a board game to pass a few hours. MS and sony in same boat. Im off back to world of warcraft. I'll try my PS4 2moro again ffs. No biggie. lol
i agree with saytioone,,,,and i wasnt trying to insult anyone,its just a figure of speech
anything short of everyone turning there backs on gaming its pointless to expect change,,,there attitude is "it is what it is" take it or leave it
and "take it or leave it" IS THEIR WORDS,,,,,they know full well that gaming is not going anywhere,,,,there are only two options,and as long as the two options stay in agreement its no different than standing a quarter on edge to see if it falls heads or tails as to which system any consumer pulls the trigger on
the PSN servers have been problematic for COD AW since its release,,,,game freezes,and lag,,,,,my game was freezing in the lobby prior to the start of the game,,,,only way out was to shut down and reboot system
they have known about these issues since day Zero,yet here we are
I disagree with the idea that gaming is going no where, its been around for a long while now, and look at FB, I hate FB games bc they are heavily relied on needing friends to play and are very simple in structure, but the fact that there are so many and growing, shows that the idea of gaming is a big market and sooner or later there will be more competitors . The Makers of the large console games such as Sony and MS might be not going anywhere, not improving things and actually are making things more complicated, but there will always be a demand for gaming.
@HooPharted SOOOOO spot on
and to think, all I want to do is play The Last of Us/Factions while I wait for the new Uncharted...
@Paranoimia Finest Squad are apparently the ones who restored the live serivices on xbox.
They are reported to have released info on Lizard Squad such as real names etc.
Also for those not in the know, and reading the comments here, thats a few, there is very little Sony can do to stop a DDoS attack.
They could quadruple their server numbers, it would still lead to the same outcome.
This kind of "hack" doesnt need to break security, it just repeatedly sends access requests by the thousands before the server load becomes too much.
This is just to lighten things up then I think I am done commenting on this thread..I will be waiting like everyone else for the Network to get back online, I Imagine there will be a weeks worth of glitches to deal with after that also. Maybe they could give all active Members a Trophy that says " I survived the Shut Down of Christmas2014"..lol
@naruball lucky you have put some book at shelf I didn't expect PSN broken down. But lesson learned tomorrow will go to book shop
By the way you are right it is not end of the world.
just rememeber we make sony we the people. give our money.to sony. they need us. sony needs us.
psn still down here georgia usa. really upset like most ps4 and playstation owners are. people the gaming. industry wont survive with out us . we are sony. the consumer.
Well I just had a Nintendo christmas instead. No biggie.
A lot of you need to check out kim dot com's twitter. He struck a deal with Lizard Squad. Not only did he get LS to stop their christmas attack, but he also got them to agree to leave psn and xbox live alone forever.
Im from uk, 9am it was working fine, thought get in its resolved. Been out all day just tried signing in and ooopes computer says no. This is a joke
@Paranoimia ; SONY is definitely down, XBOX LIVE is NOT. My son has been playing it with no interruption.
It's 7.30pm in the UK as I write this and can't login to my PSN account on my PC browser...
@RobynDBC Well, good for him. But Live was was affected. Don't take my word for it, check the gaming sites. Both services were affected, but some people have still been able to use both. Both companies issued statements about it.
Interestingly enough, I've been playing Far Cry 4 happily on my PS4 for the last two days as well. You don't actually need to be able to access the internet to play.
Here in NJ still not able to sign in as of 2:50 pm on 12/26. Pretty darn aggravating when you need to sign on to redeem codes. Hope they get it fixed sooner then later!
@RobynDBC: My son has been able to play the PS4 this morning and not his Xbox. Both services have been effected.
Sony has created a singlepoint of failure (psn).
If they just let publishers untie their online services from psn the attack surface would be too large for hackers to bring down all ps4 games in one attack.
Sony needs to take a good look at its online model and consider whether the psn single point of failure is soon going to be costing them more than it benefits them in both revenue and good will.
1 1/2 days, still unable to play my ps4 due to the psn. Idk if it is still offline or if just running too slow and every time I chat with Sony I get "test your internet." My internet is running fine or I wouldn't be able to online chat ugh. Oh well nothing I can do until they figure it out in there side I guess just hope I can play tonight or tomorrow.
@Pipr umm its also Xbox so dont just bash one system
Every time I try to sign in to my psn it comes up that the connection to the server has been terminated is that to do with my internet or a problem that sony are having?
Having to pay for online now and we all can't even use it its bollocks hopfully sony don't something soon because I'm getting fed up with all this server down bollocks when they are a multi millionaire company and they can't sort a problem out like this and they better do something about repaying us for the Internet that we have payed for but not been able to use.
Dang, really sucks that I can't play any games at all. This digital downloaded licensing thing is freaky awful! PSN down just makes your playstation useless. I CANT PLAY ANY GAMES!!
@Pipr I agree, it's ridiculous that I can't play any of the games I bought right now! The licensing stuff is horrible.
@Madd_Hatter401 Thanks buddy. Merry Xmas to you too.
@Hersonboi7 Unfortunately this kind of attack is impossible to defend against at the moment as it isn't a hack but a fake load of traffic which overloads the servers. To block against this attack would also block genuine traffic. Hopefully they'll find a work around to stop future attacks. The group responsible for the downtime has also been attacking various other companies who're also unable to defend against.
Sony have now said that there is no eta with regards to the server problem and microsoft have now admitted that they have been attacked again today having got their servers back for a short while. You Know Who have said that psn will remain off line until further notice. As a joke, they have said, they will allow psn to operate properly if they are verified on twitter, which is now trending on there. It's a crazy ol' World isn't it.
mine went out about 2 pm Christmas Eve
Apparently, some people can now get online to where You Know Who are allowing you to download Destiny, Call of Duty Ghosts, and Advanced Warfare for free. They claim they now have full control. Personally, I wouldn't trust it, but that's the latest news.
This is also the case on the xbox market place.
Destiny is now confirmed as being free on the playstation network. (still don't trust it.)
@Gunbolt, how are where are you getting this information from?
@Jacoba74 ... They're announcing what they're doing on Twitter. They're announcing what they're doing and are currently trending on there. Twitter can't get rid of them and they're on the news too. I think this is the start of something big.
Please watch the language -Tasuki-
I'm beginning to wonder if it's a diversion for something.
Hmmmn, yeah sounds a bit strange doesnt it. I would be suprised if anyone has full access to Sonys servers though. The first thing they would do is take them offline and run a test system before going live. We still aren't getting access to psn. Thinking maybe some people may just be jumping on the band wagon for publicity.
That's what I was thinking but it appears that some people got access. They also announced that they was going to hack Sony at Christmas before Sony was hacked. They appear to delete their tweets every 15 hours for some reason. NBC announced it is them on Twitter, which is probably why they've started to trend on there.
You could be lead to believe its a faction when its actually someone else is what you mean i take it? I have read the FBI are involved as scaremongering stating ISIS is involved. It always comes down to that only the hackers know whats going on at the moment, I have read in one article that sonys online entertainment director john smedley had his plane to make an emergency landing recently. Not suprised the FBI are involved. Could this have been avoided, who knows however, im sure this will pan out eventually but the end user will never know when next this will happen. Youve got to think how safe is your personal data at the end of the day.
@Jacoba74: This was not a data breaching attack it was an attack just to shut down PSN and Xbox Live. A DDoS attack is when the attackers trick the system into thinking a bunch of people are logging in at the same time. The system can't handle all the traffic at once and it shuts down.
Think of it as a turnstile at an amusement park and all the people in line rush in at once, not everyone is going to get through and you are just going to clog up the turnstile entrance to the park. That's what we have here.
@Tasuki, like a botnet then. Ah i see. Lots of people seem to have limited access in America though, so how does that work, different servers i suppose then is it?
@Thepownisher Oh here we go. Someone who has nothing good to offer so adopts the keyboard warrior attitude just to be a pr*ck of a troll.
What's up? Have i upset you because i criticised Sony over their lack of preparation for something that they had 3 weeks to prepare for?
The facts are, WE (MEANING EVERY PSN USER) that pay for the PSN service are not paying for this.
Two days its been down with no answers on what we can expect for the following day, or even what to expect for the weeks to come.
Though you might not actually if give a sh*t i do.
Unlike you i actually care that i am not getting the service that, even though i have my criticisms, i'm actually a fan of.
So much so that i actually pay for it.
Criticism is a good thing. It helps those who are criticised to improve on whatever they are being criticised for.
I'm not a believer in the "everyone's a winner" attitude because it creates an environment where everything is nothing more than mediocre.
How we do we judge a service whereby criticism is frowned upon by the die hard fans like yourself?
Just grow the f*ck up and accept there is a problem, not just with the service but with how its being run.
They've announced that they're now going after Tor.
@Jacoba74: Exactly.
The national news channel ITN has just announced that psn is now back online, as is Microsoft. (London, UK) My son has just checked and it says the server has now been terminated. WTF?
@Gunbolt, news just saying everything restored?
@Tasuki ; Thank you; this shows how sporadic the outage is. I find it strange though myself, how it isn't the same everywhere; if it is a HACK; and I still wish PSN and XBOX would just be honest with consumers and admit what ever it is doing the damage and give them some idea of what they believe it will take to get it back up and running. I care only for my son who enjoys online gaming and was so looking forward to being a part of the PSN.
@Paranoimia ; I know both companies issued statements but they were vague at best and apologizing at this point is premature if they are not even SURE what caused it. If indeed it is a HACK; it seems it would be consistent as in EVERYBODY and not here and there or one country and not another.
@ Jacoba74 Thanks. I saw that on the news too. My son's just tried and it says, The PSN Servers Have Been Terminated.
ITN News, can they get anything right?
@gunbolt, ha. i'm still getting the same message as before! will it ever end or should i say work! As for the media, dont get me started! well ill keep this feed and see if there has been any further improvements in the morning, good luck and hope you have a nice xmas break.
@Jacoba74 Cheers, same to you. Back on tomorrow. For now though, the hackers have stopped their attack because the psn servers have been fried. 80% of sony's members will not have access to psn.
two part question
Part 1
with PC's were constantly worrying about virus's and like,,,,,WE spend hundreds in dollars to "protect" and "detect" these malicious virus's, and malware,,,,why is it this does not seem the case with these gaming consoles,were told essentially they are in fact high performance "computers'' in their own right
so one of two things are going on ,either we're being lied to and these malwre ,adware and virus's are just for lack of a better term so i will coin one,"shamware",,,,or these gaming consoles are not as safe as we are led to believe
think about it,we still have banking info associated with these consoles,,,,its the same internet,with the same douche bags roaming and reeking havok through it,,,,,are we to believe that a $450 gaming console is more secure than my $1,200 lap top with Norton 360,,,,McCafee,,,,,Malwarebytes,,,,,and SpyHunter Pro ?
and yes i double up on McCafee and Norton and i double up on SpyHunter and Malwarebytes,,,,in both instances they seem to catch something the other did not which makes me wonder if they are just telling me they caught,blocked,or deleted something just to make believe i need their product
i do NOT believe the latter,because prior to using SpyHunter and Malwarebytes my puter was really bogged down,took for ever to boot,surfing was slow,my internet browser was hyjacked,,,and then i contracted the little gem that plastered my screen with pop up ads
ran SpyHunter free version and it found more than 800 infections on initial scan,,,,ran Malwarebytes and it found an additional 300 or so,,,,,upgraded to SH Pro it found like 75 more and same with Malwarebytes premium version,,,after that it told me how to clean house as it were on my puter to insure all components of this cyber Hudu VooDoo crap was gone and the difference was like night and day,,,,my puter was mine once again
you may wonder why McCafee and Norton,,,they catch the extremely damaging security type virus,Trojans,and worm type,,,,at least this is my understanding,,,,,,so are we to believe that all of this is necessary ?,,,,i believe it is,,,,,,,but why is the gaming console immune to such threats,,,,are we to believe that the gming divisions of Sony and Microsoft have stumbled onto a security catch all that the PC divisions have not?,,,,,,i think not
Part 2
this new thing with PSN seems to have effected my console,,,i can not seem to log onto Pinball Arcade which is on my HDD of my PS4,,,,just says its trying to recognize my access ,,,,also AW is acting hinky,,,,was doing the tiers on exo survival and it froze and now it will not let me back in
this is kinda what stemmed the whole thought process of why is one in need of all of this protection,and yet we are to believe the other is free and void of such treachery ,,,,,,is it possible to contract some thing on a gaming console that will effect the hard drive through online services?
if its a console thing than why cant the implement the concept from a $450 gaming console into a $1,200 laptop to afford it the same protection
@RobynDBC It's not a hack, it's a DDoS attack. By its very nature, some traffic will get through, which is why some people can use it okay some of the time.
There are some things you can do to limit the effects of a DDoS attack, but you cannot definitively prevent it from ever happening. Even then, some of those options are okay for keeping websites running, but may not be entirely suitable for a gaming network because they could introduce lag.
The statements from the companies are most likely intentionally vague for a number of reasons. They don't want to give specifics which could give details and/or ideas to other potential nuisance causers; they don't want to commit to anything in writing until they know exactly what's been going on; they don't want to give the perpetrators any credit.
Both networks would be fine if not for the idiots in the world like those in this group. Neither Sony or Microsoft are to blame here. If you want to go for a drive and there's a Mustang blocking your driveway, you don't blame Ford, you blame the moron who parked it.
Still down in Chile. Even I could play for a while today my console froze and I have not been able to connect again.
@Paranoimia: Thank you for the clarification on ALL points. If news feeds would stop calling it a hack, people wouldn't be misinformed, so just explain in terms we can understand. Sony/Microsoft's job.... . Unfortunately, it is getting to the point where the consumer can't protect them self from being the target. Blaming Sony and Microsoft is warranted somewhat to me. In my mind, as the consumer, I believe they should be on top of this kind of thing and have engineers, programmers, experts; developing ways to prevent it. After all, they make billions of dollars on consumers, the least they could do is spend some of it to counteract this issue. But I am just the consumer and I already spent my hard earned cash, so I will just have to deal with it right? What else can I do? But thank you for your informative response, I learn something new every day. At least you weren't nasty about it.
I still can't sign in in the uk does any one no when psn gonna be back up and running??
To the Push Square staff: My tablet is playing up and I may have just inadvertently reported 2 comments here as a result. Please ignore if that is the case.
@RobynDBC No problem. I agree Sony and Microsoft have some responsibility, but sadly that really only extends to fixing the problems as quickly as possible after the event, and the time it takes is entirely dependent on how long the attack lasts and how much damage it does. If either company could create a method to prevent the attacks entirely, they'd stand to make a fortune as everyone else would want to buy the technology.
What makes the issue so hard to defend against is that it's basically an exploit/abuse of the way the internet is designed to work. You simply can't prevent it, you can only hope to detect it quickly and lessen the impact.
If you Google 'famous ddos attacks' you'll see that many large, tech-savvy companies and organisations have been victims in the past. The US DoJ, NASA, Yahoo, and more... they've all been hit, and powerless to do anything other than cope as best they can and clean up the mess afterwards.
Regarding erroneous reporting of this issue as a "hack", I have to say I think PushSquare have made an error with the title of this article. I can understand that they initially thought the problem was excess traffic caused by lots of new consoles coming online, and that they now don't want to give this group any publicity. But by leaving the title as it is, still implying that Sony simply failed to plan for a Christmas traffic surge, they're (a) not doing Sony's reputation any favours, and (b) inadvertently feeding new readers false information. It's clear from many of the more recent comments that people are reading the headline but not the article and updates, and aren't aware of the whole story.
Id never get rid of my console do to these attacks like some people are doing. I love PlayStation and always have, I grew up with one, fond memories of playing Tomb Raider and Grand Theft Auto, even Frogger.
Its all just sad, sad that we cant play something that brings us such fond memories.
Sony wont let us down, we all need to realize they are trying and doing what they can to fix this, reality is, this could be a while before its fixed, however, im not in any hurry. I love gaming. Its amazing, but it will always be around. Even if Sony has to rebuild their servers, its to better us.
Im a Computer Engineer, still learning, still in school, but these attacks are complex in the fact that they are overwhelming. You cant stop them, and you really cant do a whole lot to brace yourself for them either. Why bash Sony for this? They are working. Think about how many workers didnt get to spend time with their kids on christmas, how many didnt get to see their kids or family open gifts, or even be proud to see their kid gaming.
All they can do is try there hardest and they are. This to shall pass.
going under maintenance, going under maintenance, going under maintenance, going under maintenance.... well.... FIX THE DARN CRAP ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 days now? my games ALWAYS freeze up, stalls or says I'm DC'ed FIX IT ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I use my PS for EVERYTHING... now SONY, your costing me money
Your cries to Sony arent going to do much considering this page isnt attached to PlayStation. They will fix it. Its not as easy as snapping your fingers.
@Gunbolt, happy to say we have full restored psn, we have one very happy son and a very happy dad! Hope things your way are all sorted. Have a nice day.
@Jacoba74 Morning I'm afraid things are still bad at my end. Every time he tries to log into psn we get a message saying, Connection To Server Has Been Terminated. NW-31194-8. I'm gonna look-up what this means.
@Gunbolt, looks like still a PSN issue or server issue. I turned our system and router off here this morning and it worked. Might be worth a try. Have a look on your settinbgs:network and try an internet connection test. Even if you go to the web browser and see if that works.
@Gunbolt, looks like still a PSN issue or server issue. I turned our system and router off here this morning and it worked. Might be worth a try. Have a look on your settinbgs:network and try an internet connection test. Even if you go to the web browser and see if that works.
I can sign in on sony website, but not on ps4. So gradually getting there for the uk!!
@Jacoba74 I re-booted the router and did an internet test with the ps4. It said the connection was fine. However, when ever I try to connect to psn I keep getting the same error message with regards to the servers. Haven't got a clue what's going on At least you've got it up and running Jacoba so there's happy faces in your household
@Pakio89 Same here. I can sign into the online website through my pc, but I can't sign onto anything with the actual ps4.
About time I'm bk up and running thanks psn 😝
Anyone from the uk back on psn?
Anyone in US up and running Ps4?
I'm in North London - UK. Been told that the servers will be operational within the next 24 hours. My son has reverted back to his xbox 360 and doesn't seem too bothered about the ps4 now, which he was really looking forward to.
Money well spent again, sheesh.
24 hours geeze, always seems like uk is last on there list lol. Hopefully its on before this evening !! Dont know if i can cope with the misses in my hear for a 3rd night in a row
@Pakio89 LOL!
Yay
I'm online in the uk on ps4
@Gingercrs jammy sod im in wales and still no psn!!!
Sonys #AskPlayStation on Twitter has confirmed that services to Ps3, Ps4, and Vita, are all gradually coming back online, but that it will still take some time.
@Pakio89 I'm playing FIFA 15 now on ps4 online but when I win or lose its saying I ant played a game
I'm in wembley uk
@Gunbolt its up and running now try it
@Pakio89 yh I'm online in the uk
Mines not
@Gingercrs i would be fuming! I eat breathe sleep fifa lol
Loool what's ur gamer tag
Huh? Ive actually have to sign in, accidentally signed out yesterday ! Keeps timing out! Game tag is pakio89
Here in NY psn only works in the am after 11am it stops .....
@Gingercrs Thanks. Ours is still down with a different error code. We now get CE-34861-2. Sony issue the same instructions to ever error code. Re-set router bla bla bla.
Take it its not back working properly? Guess im having another boring night! Out comes the jacks
Well, I was able to play a little last night, I was tired so I went to bed only to wake up booted out and can't sign back in this morning. Frustrating but nothing we can do except wait for this issue to be resolved eventually and hope Sony can learn from this even if it's just to have a back-up server system while they work out the main.
Never thought i would say this but im actually on the verge of going out and buying an xbox! This is stupid! Thought sony wouldve learnt from there ps3 errors. I know its a totally different attack, but surely they couldve sat down at a round table, and cover every hack possible! They have the money and the know how to prevent a stupid attack?
I'm really disappointed.. I got my PS4 with PS Plus on Christmas I activated it and can't use it for three days. What sony will do as compensation?
@Pakio89 xbox is also down genius so yeah go buy one just to figure out both are down
@punkfrost my brother has had no problem with his xbox, for nearly a day and a half. Genius
@Pakio89 xbox one and ps4 were both attacked and both still going threw errors and nither are down the are small gaps where u can squeeze in online for both consoles
@punkfrost i know sad really just seems the xbox is far more reliable for online gaming. This was the first time that it happened to the xbox. I really dont like xbox, but i only play online. Game play bores within an hour. Unless its skyrim
@aliencz probably nothing, they havnt confirmed its a ddos attack. Just saying maintenance.
Anyone getting NW-31456-9 timing out?
What a bloody joke my 10year old son is so annoyed and so am I i paid a fortune for this bag of crap ps4 I knew I should av stuck with Xbox. Can't even redeem code for the 12 month live if anyone as got any info for me plz help thanx peeps xxxx
I had ps4 6 months and its been down atleast 4 times
@Pakio89 wow that's a lot.. I hope it'll be better next year and we all get something as compensation... Because if they will not do something it's same like forget you my customer.
Please watch the language -Tasuki-
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still down, day 3. Sony's "security" is a weak joke and this is just pathetic.
"We're aware that some users are experiencing sign-in issues on PS4 and PS3; engineers are investigating the cause.
— Ask PlayStation (@AskPlayStation) December 27, 2014"
I've been on the xbox360 for most of the day, waiting for Sony to sort themselves out. At one point, I went into the kitchen and had a conversation with the wife. She seems quite nice.
@Gunbolt lol
no point in being relevant, i see
@saytionne It hasn't helped so far.
@Gunbolt Haha, true. So frustrating. You are right though, must revert back to "life before PSN"
Im online on Ps4 in Virginia! Playinh Destiny and working perfect!
Hey guys i m uk was having the same problem as yesterday. Go to network settings custom setup when mtu come enter 1470. Worked for me. Let me know if it does for you
I have just tried the same as pakio89 said and my ps4 is now working thanks pakio89 for your info
@stevie123 no probs glad it works
Or try 1473
@stevie123 a little help guys, enter this code under the custom network settings?
Go to network settings custom online connection when mtu appears type in 1470
Guess it only works for some. Still getting the ce-33992-6 error and when it fails to sign in PSN I get the nw-31194-8 error. Day 4. #sonysucks
Same here.
I know myself and pakio89 are in the uk are you another code is 1473
US here. Neither 1470 or 1473 worked
@Pakio89 I'm now up and running (North London -UK) The code worked. Many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glad to see codes are working!! SadlyI don't know the code for the US
must be the codes for the uk then gunbolt is now up and running from the uk as well
3 people in the uk have used the code and we are all up and running so the codes must do something sony don't know what they are doing as it has now taken them 4 days and they told sky news yesterday morning saying the ps4 was up and running which was not true
Ok edit that! Since I am like many, relentless, I kept trying. I'm "online" and "signed in" with the 1473 MTU (for now). But #sonystillsucks Lol
glad to see your ps4 is up and running sony got it wrong codes do work
Sony ain't that bothered obviously there pockets are lined with cash that's all that matters to them!!
true sony have not helps us at all and if you never told us about the codes our ps4's would still be down
in that case, they have enough money to hire someone from Lizard, much like Google steals employees from other viable competitors. #psnproblemsolved
We'll that's why they have so much money because they won't pay anyone to prevent stuff like this hapopening! They want to spend as little to gain as much as they can
@Paranoimia ; It is always nice to have knowledgeable folkes such as yourself to diffuse all of the erroneous reporting on gaming issues. I myself, have long lost the ability to keep up with my son's gaming consoles and the issues that come with it. I am more computer inclined. But thank you for the thorough explanation that helped to resolve my frustration. With his PS4 back up and running and the recent claim to have identified the source (a disgruntled Sony ex-employee) are all indications that Sony did its part and well, to help get the system back up.
So; thank you for your responses, instead of belittling me and my comments, you tried to explain it and you did that very well. Robyn
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