Michael Pachter put his neck on the line recently, and stated that the PlayStation 4 will maintain control of the console space through 2015 – but this was before Microsoft's big NPD win in November. To his credit, the likeable forecaster is sticking with his reading of the situation, but a predictions post from Games Industry.biz suggests that not everyone in the field agrees.
Billy Pidgeon, an independent analyst, is one such expert who sees a turning of the tides of kinds over the next 12 months. "Xbox One hardware is indeed selling stronger at the end of 2014, and this should continue into 2015," he pointed out. "This is not because Sony is slipping, but because Microsoft is catching up. As hardware prices drop and exclusives and franchises begin to cluster on the Xbox One, an ever-larger group of gamers is upgrading from the Xbox 360."
Of course, it's unclear whether Pidgeon is looking at the global situation or just North America. From what we can see, Sony's next-gen format is stomping the competition in much of continental Europe and Asia, but the skirmish remains close in key countries such as the UK and the USA. To be fair, the analyst reckons that things will be tight moving forwards. "[I think that] the two consoles should be evenly matched throughout the cycle," he concluded.
David Cole from DFC Intelligence was a little more specific, agreeing with Pidgeon's predictions from an American perspective. "The PS4 is expected to continue to be the leading console system for this generation, but the Xbox One has a chance to take the lead in the USA," he said. "We think that [the Xbox One] will catch up with Sony in 2015, as it rides a general Microsoft marketing juggernaut. Of course, it says a lot that Microsoft has to spend that money to get market share."
As already alluded, though, Pachter stuck with his original analysis. "Assuming that the Xbox One reverts to the $399 price point, I think that Sony's first-party software will make a real difference in 2015," he exclaimed. "The company has a phenomenal lineup of exclusives, and they're spread throughout the year. This should keep interest in the PS4 high, and should allow Sony to extend its lead." The question is: who do you agree with?
[source gamesindustry.biz]
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I think he would be completly right if the Xbox One 350$ price tag wasn't just for a limited time, now's back to 400$
At some point I thought they were really going to catch up with the exclusives and stuff but well, its going to be interesting to see how's everything is going to end up now that the playing field is even again.
Ps4 has still to throw many cards on the exclusive's table this year (thinking of Uncharted, Bloodborne, The Order), more than what they did in 2014. Let's see.... on an even price tag Ps4 is more appealing to the gamer community so far, Microsoft has either to drop the price again or come out with some amazing game to reach Sony.
I beg to differ, Microsoft have nothing worth selling their system for the next six months now, in the time that Screamride comes out Sony will have had The Order, Bloodborne, The Tomorrow Children, Tearaway Unfolded, MLB 15 and Until Dawn are out. Xx will do ok but I fail to see how they will do better then PS4 when Sony hold most of the aces.
Not that I don't think Halo will be good for the xbone, but i'm fairly confident that it wont be enough to pull ahead of PS4 for the year, or even half of it. The other exclusives offered by microsoft so far haven't exactly impressed the public.. cough titan fall, sunset overdrive cough. And most of the ones announced at E3 haven't even released yet. Thinking about it now, most of the new IP's this year for both consoles have been really disappointing. That's probably going to turn off a lot of developers from making new AAA games in the future.
#2015
The only thing that I can see hurting Sony right now is the performance of PSN . A lot of uneducated people blame Sony for these crippling DDoS attacks yet when it happens to MS as well no one blames MS . Hearing this negative stuff about PSN I am sure has costed them some sales to MS due to people not looking at the full picture.
It doesn't seem to matter how good the PS4 is, how it's priced, which awesome exclusives come out, Microsoft have a large group of incredibly loyal fans (in the US and UK) and they will buy it in troves once the new Halo drops. If MS didn't have the US fan base, it would've shut down the Xbox division long ago.
so what if it does it's not like every ps4 will stop working or it will no longer get any games if it's outsold by xbox
what ever console sells more isn't going to affect my gaming so I don't care and niether should anyone who doesn't work for either sony or microsoft
Thats far too soon and unfortunately Microsoft doesn't have the luxury of being the 'it' platform of this generation.
@adf86 I completely agree. I have the halo 5 multiplayer beta on my xboxOne and it's THE BEST multiplayer I've ever played. But halo won't be out until fall. And by that time ps4 would have released half of their stunning exclusives. Maybe 2016 for xboxOne, but certainly not 2015!
Anything could happen, but David Cole has more realistic expectations than Billy Pidgeon. XONE sold great over the holidays, but they had some amazing priced bundles. Now the price is going back up, and exclusives seem to be stronger on Playstation for 2015, at least for now, I couldn't see it catching up worldwide. In the US however, that makes sense, it's always been a strong XBOX stronghold, and that's perfectly understandable, it's their own product after all, just like Playstation in Japan. But, as I said, nothing's set in stone, anything could happen.
I wouldn't be surprised if X1 outsold PS4 in Dec due to price and games and the NFL Fantasy Football season, but I'll wait until March or April to make any predictions about how things will pan out for 2015. Either or both could get price drops and new announcements around then, winter is for waiting.
@Tasuki yea, that did kind of put a bite in PSN, but it's back now. I'll admit it, I'm more loyal to Sony for a gaming console compared to Microsoft, but I wouldn't bite my teeth in buying a 360. The XB1 on the other hand, I just don't see anything great about it. In terms of sci-fi shooters, I'm more into something like Planetside, which I played the first one on the PC and absolutely loved. I tried Halo on the 360, I didn't like it.
I can only seeing this apply to North America.
However, I see this as a good thing, since competition will bolster the efforts of both Sony and Microsoft to put their all into their systems.
I hope the race becomes neck & neck for the rest of the xb1 and ps4s life cycle. Gamers are the ones who benefit from the stiff competition! Especially gamers like me who genuinely play both consoles on a regular basis. I love the way the ps4 exclusives are shaping up this year but I think xbox might pull out some pretty awesome games this year as well. I keep hearing how bad 2014 was for gaming but personally I had a blast, tons of good games that I loved and this year looks even better !
@Tasuki
While I can't stand Microsoft, Sony is partially to blame. People like you, who make excuses for Sony are the problem. There is no excuse for Sony not being more open about what was happening & let their paying customers know what's going on. And why can Xbox Live be fixed in half the time PSN was corrected? It's unacceptable. And if you throw in the Driveclub fiasco, Sony hasn't looked great so far.
XBox One would need to sell 7 million units more than the PS4 this year to catch up.
They sold about 7 million consoles in total during 2014. So even if the PS4 sells zero units this year, XBox one would have to double its sales year-on-year, in order to match the PS4's install base.
Does that seem likely?
I'm not a fancy analyst or anything. I'm just a cat, and even I know XBox One isn't going to catch up to PS4 in 2015. I'd bet a whole carton of Sheba with turkey and white sauce on it.
@Godsire- haha ohhhhhh snap.
Looking at the Xbox One's currently announced exclusives for 2015, I have no idea how anyone can choose that lineup over Sony's.
Now if Sony can just get their exclusives out the door, in fully working condition, & live up to expectations.....they will fine.
The only things Microsoft has is Halo & endless $.
@SuperCat not sure where you got the 7 million number.. xbox ones were 10 million sold before the November ND numbers, and in all likelihood December was an even bigger month for xbox than November.. so yeah. But that being said, I'm sure Sony sold amazingly well at that time as well.. I definitely agree xbox in all likelihood won't catch ps4.. but xbox one is definitely doing great and has surpassed wii u in sales as well.
I can see it close but depends if Sony will update the console and hold a good steady network. Really good titles for ps4 this year so with the right advertising and new features they could do another good year.
@SuperCat
Where does one need to go to purchase a supercat, like yourself?
@mitcHELLspawn - according to Vgchartz YTD numbers ending mid-Dec
@Godsire- I'm actually really excited for xboxs 2015 exclusives. From halo to quantum break to crackdown phantom dust tomb raider fable legends scalebound and hopefully gears of war but unlikely. I've gotta say I'm more excited for ps4s exclusives more definitely. . But xbox one looks great for sure.
@mitcHELLspawn
You said it best.....we, as consumers, benefit from the two companies fighting a close battle. The last thing we want is Sony taking over & getting lazy.
@SuperCat vgchartz is so completely all over the place it's sad
@Godsire- one does not own a cat. The kitty will merely graciously permit his human to feed him and provide ear scratches as required.
@Godsire- yeah that's for sure man! I love the stiff competition.. then you have both companies trying to one up each other and it brings the best out of both platform holders and we reap the rewards
Are these the same analysts that said Microsoft would destroy sony this gen?
@SuperCat
Well played, Supercat. Well played.
I will get an xbone when the exclusives on it merit me paying for it. However I wanted a wii u more. Actually interested to see what Nintendo actually do next hardware wise
@Godsire- Xbox Live can be fixed faster because Microsoft has a separate business which includes thousands of servers that are not deticated to Xbox Live, but can be used for it when needed to lessen the impact. There is no realistic way that Sony, which does not have such a business, can match that.
@Godsire: Also keep in mind that Sony's servers are used for 3 devices PS3, PS4 and Vita while MS only services two Xbox 360 and Xbox One.
Also right now there are no Xbox exlcusives making me want to run out and buy an Xbox One which is why I haven't. And to be quite honest not to many of PS's interest me really. Most I got the PS4 for third party games that I knew wouldn't come to the Wii U or would have just been messed up ports.
@mitcHELLspawn To be fair, Microsoft said they were at "almost 10 million shipped" I believe, which probably included a lot of their holiday stock. Both companies will fudge the numbers to make their machines look more popular.
VGChartz is nonsense, though, you're right there.
@Tasuki Is it my responsibility as a consumer to analyse how many devices Sony's servers are spread over? No. Sony is operating (and charging for) online services. As a provider it is their responsibility to do basic analysis of the operation including potential risks. If this truly was the only time that Sony's online had issues then it would be acceptable. However its not the first and probably not the last. Perhaps Sony needs to think about its online position and provide a service that it can comfortably operate.
Eh I don't see Microsoft overpassing Sony this year but I can see the gap closing if they play their cards right and if they can leverage windows 10 alongside a nice line up of games properly.
Honestly Sony's biggest problem is that Kaz has done nothing to turn the company around as a whole, and the leaks and just overall dumb decisions aren't really helping.
Here's the bottom line: Sony is millions ahead of MS and they've done it sticking to their plan. MS has had to scramble to catch up and they've lost money that Sony hasn't had to spend. Sony won't care if they catch up as long as they don't have to spend any extra money to win people over
How did we shift from total console sales to just U.S. sales! People love a sale and to save money with the price going back up sales will drop once again on XBoxOne in the U.S. Xbox also got a boost from people that got a Playstation last year grabbing a Xbox this year while its on sale. Talk Installed user base Sony still gained ground even with Xbox on sale.
These guys have to be talking strictly about North America because unless MS has some hidden trump card to play the Xbox One will never sell in Japan and Europe seems to be staunchly behind PlayStation again. Despite all the great deals and despite doing well in NA during the holidays, Xbox One still couldn't outsell PS4 worldwide, and that's the bigger picture that people should be looking at. Sometimes, and I've been guilty of it too, too much stock gets put into 'winning' NA. It's hugely important but it's not the end all and it took a bunch of crazy-good deals for X1 to finally outsell PS4 in the Xbox brand's strongest market. And it's not like NA hates the PlayStation, it did dominate here for two generations in a row and it could've been three had Sony not gone stupid in 2006. But back to current gen, now the prices are even again and, though I'm still highly skeptical of both, at least PS4 has some hyped exclusives for the early part of 2015 in Bloodborne and The Order. Xbox One has a bunch of games that could make 2015, but it's not looking like any will hit before June, so I'm having a tough time seeing how Xbox is going to 'win' anything. I also think this is a bad decision by MS to go back to $400. Once they went to $350, there was really a point of no return, imo, people will now just wait until the price goes back down, especially with a decent amount of time until the next big game hits that can't also be bought on PS4. I'd love it to be a neck and neck race though, that's the only way both companies will strive to do better. Given some of the stuff I've seen from Sony lately, I'd be real worried about what might happen if they're outselling the competition 3 or 4-to-1, they started getting complacent in 2014 and we weren't even a full calendar year into this race.
In the UK US and AU I believe it no doubt will. It's a solid system and deserves its due. Fact is PS4 has sold ALOT and that leaves room for people like me who enjoy owning both consoles to find room for a XB1 in their living rooms. I honestly love both systems and want them both to do well.
@Godsire-
Without MS, the next PS will be what MS wanted with the XBox One at E3 2013. Sony doesn't want you to sell your games, they will make profit of the games, so they prefer you to buy everything digital.
For me the only thing the Xbone has going for it now is Its online performance & if your a massive Halo fan then that as well I guess.
PSN reputation has been tarnished over the years unfortunately, it's all about perception & reputation at this stage not just the price of the hardware.
Microsofts dropping its price over Xmas was just to cash in on parents that know jack about gaming & were naturally going to go for the cheaper deal.
2015 is the defining year, if the exclusives are as good as they are making out & there are no major issues with the PSN then the Ps4 could stomp all over Microsoft.
I think xbone and ps4 will be neck an neck for this gen overall. But it seems all the analyst's have completely forgotten about the WiiU, haven't heard any of them say either good or bad things about Ninty since the summer. Pity, cause it's the system with all the best games right now along with full backwards compatibility for a hell of a lot of hidden gems on the Wii.
I love my ps4 (and 3), but I'm only really looking forward to The Order and Uncharted 4. I'm sure there will be loads of ps4 games this year that I will love but I have such a backlog of WiiU games already. Wish people could see the WiiU for what it really is and not just a crappy controller. Pro-Controller ftw
@Godsire- Good choice of words there. "Announced" exclusives on the MS side is lacking compared to the hype surrounding the Sony games.... However I would count out the Xbox One for 2015. Phil made it very clear that there are lots of surprises in store for 2015 and he wanted the games to do the talking moving forward. So I expect to see a lot of releases similar to Forza Horizon 2 where games was released within 6 months of announcement.
@Epic I expected lowest sales month if Xbox price back to $400 this month...
trust me, I'm an expect analyst in gaming websites comment.
@Godsire the reason Microsoft can recover from a DDOS attack quicker than Sony might be that Live has 48M accounts and PSN has 110M accounts. Given that a DDOS is essentially fake extra traffic, Sonys popularity was already a strain.
If VGcharts is "nonsense", why do Microsoft use them as a source for sales data on the boxes of its biggest franchises eg Halo & Forza?
I'm owner of both consoles and at this moment I can say for sure that Xbox have a stronger exclusives lineup at this moment. Looking forward to play Order and Bloodborne but for now I do prefer Xbox.
To be honest, who cares. Both have sold millions already and in turn will be supported fully. Ultimately without competition, things would turn against the consumer.
All this corporate c**k waving is irrelevant, when both consoles have sold so much. Not as if a third party is going to stop making software for both any time soon.
I jumped from MS to Sony this gen and I'm happy with my purchase, that along with the guarantee of support from internal and external developers is all I need.
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