Embrace the nonsense because alongside that dumb-as-a-Jim-Carrey-and-Jeff-Daniels-double-act survey that's leaked, the silly circus has well and truly erected a tent on top of the as of yet unannounced Nintendo NX. Reports around the web earlier this morning suggested that the House of Mario's new piece of mysterious machinery could be compatible with the PlayStation 4, which caused raised eyebrows so high at Push Square Towers that we were able to give Roger Moore a run for his money.
The rumour starts, as all good ones do, with a cryptic Takahashi Mochizuki tweet which claims that Nintendo's forthcoming format may "work with smartphones, PCs, and even rival consoles such as the PS4". The Wall Street Journal scribe cited David Gibson as his source, a man of strong reputation lending credence to the spewing speculation. The problem is that Gibson isn't actually privy to any inside information on this occasion: he was spitballing as part of a recent report based upon a Nintendo patent filing that was unearthed in December.
That patent, as reported on by our sister site Nintendo Life, seemed to allude to some kind of hypothetical hardware that could draw power via supplementary computing devices. It all sounds a bit too Ken Kutaragi for our liking β after all, the ex-Sony engineer did intend for the CELL chip inside the PlayStation 3 to connect to all of your home electronics in order to create some kind of super computer. Unsurprisingly, it didn't happen.
Anyway, we've seen the report written by Gibson, and he makes clear that any interoperability between the Nintendo NX and PS4 is personal conjecture. "It's possible," he writes, "that the NX works with the PS4 or PCs which would be a major change for Nintendo and be a positive." It's also possible that we may win the lottery, buy a desert island, and live out the rest of our days in solitude with the band members of B*Witched, but that ain't going to happen. C'est la vie.
No, there's simply no way that the Nintendo NX and PS4 will be compatible β and nor would there be any need for them to be. There's a small sliver of a chance that the Japanese manufacturers may allow cross-platform play between their systems, but even that would be unprecedented, and it's got nothing to do with this rumour really. In other words, don't believe everything that you read on the Internet folks β there's usually a steaming pile of shite at the source.
[source twitter.com, via nintendolife.com]
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@KratosMD Over my dead body!
It could simply be what the X1 does where you could essentially plug other devices into the NX, but that's about it. I don't think anyone wholeheartedly expects Nintendo to somehow get the PS4 working with it.
@get2sammyb c'mon sammy, let PushLife be a thing! Mario and Kratos merged in awesomeness! Can't you see?
@Frank90 No.
I did see a leaked source that states the NX will stream video in 4k and the games will run at 900p/60fps. I will be impressed if they actually pull the it off. Seems a bit far fetched considering it will probably have a built in hand held device as well, making the sum of all the parts very pricey. Pricey is not usually what Nintendo goes for.
Including a PS4 with every NX would probably help sales...
I think after the whole Nintendo Play Station debacle the chances of those two companies working together is slim to none. Unless of course there was a buyout or merger involved.
Nintendo going third party would be the best for everyone.
The only way that going to happen is Nintendo is the handheld side and Sony is the home side.
@DominicanGlory it would be weird for me but it happens it happens and got to have it as my plan for the future of gaming.
If you cannot not trust internet rumours then all hope is lost
If anyone goes third party, it would be Sony first not Nintendo mate.
Who honestly believed that Nintendo's new console would be compatible with their direct competition?
I'm tired trying to speculate, plus if Id bought a Wii U, I'd be put off by the dwindling support for the console. I guess once they put out actual details, I'll form an opinion!
@Link41x you do know that ever since the NES, Nintendo has been on a steady decline outside of the lightning in a bottle scenario that was the Wii. Honestly, their market is shrinking while Sony has always been in a prominent position... hell they even steered the course and made the ps3 the best of last gen despite a disastrous first two years. Nintendo is getting too small to justify making hardware for their ~10 million diehard fans.
well if any one actually believed that the Nintendo NX would work with the PS4 then they are COLOSSAL IDIOT'S
@Savino that's already happened it was the GameCube
You had me until B*Witched. You lost all credibility after that.
It's probably literally just amiibo.
sigh.......I wan't this NX rumor mill to end.
@Link41x of anyone is going third party first, it's Nintendo, not Sony
@Link41x U chat some shiiiiiiiiza now don't u!!
Here's the tweet with some added interpretation by me in brackets as to what I think he was ACTUALLY saying:
"Nintendo's NX may work with smartphones, PCs and [it may] even rival consoles such as PlayStation4."
@get2sammyb Valid or no?
@Link41x I'd argue against that. Sony may not be doing so well overall, but if NX fails to make a splash then Nintendo, as a home console developer is more or less finished.
@DominicanGlory I agree with everything you said but the rough start of the PS3 is a strange myth that I think originates from the 360 being disproportionately popular in the USA.
So at equivalent times in their respective lifespans, the PS3 was selling better. It was just the head start the 360 had that made it look like they were selling roughly equally when you look at total install bases at any given time.
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Xbox_360
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/PlayStation_3
@DominicanGlory Ah, the old 'Nintendo should go third party' chestnut. That NEVER gets old.
"you do know that ever since the NES, Nintendo has been on a steady decline outside of the lightning in a bottle scenario that was the Wii."
I always find this funny. Like, the Wii and DS somehow don't count, and that their success cannot be replicated ever again. Maybe NX will flop. Maybe it won't. I distinctly remember a time when many thought Apple was dead as a door nail, too.
"hell they even steered the course and made the ps3 the best of last gen despite a disastrous first two years."
That's purely opinion. What is FACT is that Sony lost billions, and the Wii caught both it and Microsoft with their pants down. They in turn scrambled for a response with things like PS Move and Kinect, whilst Nintendo had already made its cash.
"Nintendo is getting too small to justify making hardware for their ~10 million diehard fans."
66 million. You forgot the 3DS.
@NomNom "if NX fails to make a splash then Nintendo, as a home console developer is more or less finished."
Actually, Nintendo can suffer a quite a few more flops before calling it a day. Though I do agree that they definitely need to get their act together with the NX.
This whole 'third party' nonsense is such a blinkered and ignorant viewpoint. Nintendo, Sony nor Microsoft should exit the hardware space - if they did, it would mean less variety and competition, and result in a stagnant business where one company dominates all. Why in the hell would people want that? Because they don't like paying for another machine to play its exclusive games?
Imagine if there was only Windows - no Mac, or Linux. Or if there was only iPhone domineering everything. Why would you want one to be subject to the rules of another, whilst the marketplace shrinks? Why would you WANT big corporations to get even more bloated with power as others lose the independence to craft their products and create new stuff?
Stop being so damn short-sighted.
@Kage_88 all very excellent points, but I'll challenge you a bit on the "66 million" How much of that 66 is overlap from consumers that happened to buy multiple models of the 3DS... I know I have several. Unless that count are active NNIDs.
But yeah like I've even said before, I'm not sure why the Wii and DS are counted as flukes being that it was unique and came at a time before smartphones and tablets exploded on the scene.
@Kage_88 I completely agree with you, but I just want to say that @Sir_JBizzle is right - I have a Wii U, but I'm also about to purchase my third 3DS. (I got one at launch. then got an XL about a year and a half later, and that Pokemon N3DS was too tempting!)
Basically, Nintendo releases a 3DS and I go all
Nobody is doing that with the Wii U though!
"It's also possible that we may win the lottery, buy a desert island, and live out the rest of our days in solitude with the band members of B*Witched, but that ain't going to happen. C'est la vie."
Wow, way to break it to us...
@get2sammyb
Jeepers, "Bewitched".... You're easily pleased
Best thing would be if Nintendo just made games for the PS4 AND makes a new Handheld togeter with Sony, the Nintendo Vita NX, being fully compatible with the PS4. That way, everything makes sense. Right? RIGHT??
@TheLobster No because that's not what the original source is referring to. I mean that could well be the case as well, but that's not what's being discussed here.
I just want to play Mario on my PS4 or Vita.
Maybe Nintendo just wants to be friends again after the SNES CD.
But yeah, with the NX - I've stopped speculating and I'm only interested in official announcements, and I'm fairly sure we'll know something about it in 6 months.
And if for some bizarre reason it was compatible with PS4, I shall video myself tap-dancing naked in my garden.
I'm pretty sure this thing is going to be a terminal to stream games and videos and so it might work with smartphones/PCs/ and PS4 etc by being an App.
@TheLobster @Sir_JBizzle
Is that really important? Units sold are units sold and if you have enough money (and hopefully time) to buy more than one 3DS, then you should be able to afford a ton of games, enough as if 3 different people bought an average amount of games.
I don't want any of them to merge or buy the other one or to go out of business. We need competition and most importantly, variety. If I really want Scalebound I don't throw a tantrum in a forum, I buy an X1. Same for Splatoon or Uncharted 4.
While highly doubtful, I would be a very, very happy person. I was thinking maybe it would work in a home network streaming sort of way, with Xbox and playstation getting apps for the streaming of games to either console. You would need to still own an nx, but say your friends are on ps4 and you want to chat with them while playing some dk, just stream it and stay in your party, using your ds4. I would love if Nintendo goes with a more tradition console this round, something a little more powerful that ps4/x1, to reflect how late it's coming in the cycle, and re establish its spot among multiplats. That is literally my only request for the nx, with a secondary being a more traditional controller as well.
@Captain_Toad that wont happen until the console is announced and shown
@get2sammyb how about changing it to moveVRmodo
@get2sammyb
Or even pushVR, as a sister site
@dryrain lol don't lose faith. I still believe in internet rumours!
@get2sammyb I got it - PushNintendoSquareLife!
[you getting fed up with this yet? hehe]
@sinalefa concerning units sold and money in Nintendo's coffers, no it's not really important. It keeps them in business and I'm happy for that. But looking from a hard facts point of view, one person buying multiple 3DSes does not necessarily equal true userbase. Granted, the 3DS fanbase does bring up the total to way more than the 10 million Wii U users. Heck, there's folks that own both a Wii U and 3DS which creates more overlap. That's just the nerd in me being an objective thinker. It wasn't really a knock on Nintendo or anyone.
For all we know this thing could be cloud based console.
Anyone who believed that it would have any compatibility with Playstation or Xbox is an idiot. Nintendo is the only of the Big Three with hardware that can survive on first party titles alone. The Wii U hasn't been a big money maker, but they broke even on it over a year and a half ago; they wouldn't do something desperate like this when they're not desperate yet.
Just spit-balling here, but what if this rumoured compatibility was all about NX being compatible with PSVR, and possibly Sony PSVR games? Gives Sony an extra market for their new peripheral, gives Nintendo a VR option (seems to be the next big selling point) with no downside, gives gamers a choice.
Wait, definitely not happening, now that I typed those last three words.
@Sir_JBizzle The Nintendo DS was the last thing i bought from Nintendo for my mom. I also bought a PSP my mom liked the PSP more so funny. Nintendo is awsome but if they bomb another console that wont be good. Then its on to handheld and mobile big cash but a end of a era.
Yeah that's a ridiculous rumor right there..
Man just picture this;
Every Zelda
Every Ridge Racer
Every Mario
Final Fantasy 1-15
Act Raiser
Every Wipeout
Super Monkey Ball
Every Gran Turismo
Every F-Zero
Every Unchartered
Every Mario Kart
Assasins creed Unity to laugh at.
Arrrghhhh do it Nintendo!!! Please!!! (make an addon for Every Sega game ever too)
One day................................................
Don't see this every happening, and I don't believe many things I see on the internet.
If nintendo was bought out, I could see Sony picking them up...if Sony was to be bought out, I could see nintendo picking them up. When both had magazines out, neither one of them ever made fun of or busted on one another, where the X-box Magazine...that's all they did. It seems that Sony copies nintendo's ideas, and if Sony has a good idea that catches on...Sony copies them. Sort of like Disney and Universal (both parks are separate, but if one needs money, the other gives them...I worked there when Universal gave Disney a large sum of money). All of this is just being faithful competitors but also friendly towards one another. They respect each other.
Nintendo does have enough money to keep them going for generations to come...even if they have another flop of a console. I agree that they really need to up the NX though and they need to shape up their acts, or they could lose more fans and more stock...which would really kill them, and could even have them lose 3rd parties all together (including indie developers). I could see the console taking off if they do everything right this time, and since the PS4 has a large install base (and it seems everyone in the world owns a PS4), then I could see people eager to buy a new console...and what better console than a nintendo system!
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