Bungie has laid out its future plans for Destiny on PlayStation 3, which includes the permanent cancellations of Trials of Osiris and Iron Banner. As we previously covered, Destiny's next expansion - Rise of Iron - won't be coming to PlayStation 3, but according to Troubleshooter pages on Bungie.net, the now dubbed "Legacy Console" will also no longer receive major updates and access to many features will be limited or cancelled.
Starting in August, the weekly and monthly multiplayer events, Trials of Osiris and Iron Banner respectively, will also be cancelled. There will also be no more live events, such as the Sparrow Racing League or Festival of the Lost. Additionally, Xur will no longer sell individual exotic weapons and armour pieces. Instead, he will only be selling exotic engrams, which will decrypt into Year 2 exotics.
All methods for purchasing premium currency silver will also disabled, including the purchase of silver add-ons from the PlayStation Store. Thankfully, all other content including Strikes, Raids, Prison/Challenge of Elders and standard Crucible modes will remain intact and playable without issue.
As Bungie continuously points out on the aforementioned pages, in order to access the cancelled content after August, Legacy Console players will need to upgrade to a PlayStation 4 and purchase Destiny: Rise of Iron upon release. If those upgraded players wish to play content from any previous Destiny expansion, they will also need to re-purchase Destiny: The Taken King.
It goes without saying that this is a crushing blow to Destiny players who still enjoy the game on PS3, especially with the cancellation of Trials of Osiris and Iron Banner, two of the game's most popular competitive multiplayer components.
Has Bungie made the right decision, or should it let last-gen players enjoy all the current content Destiny has to offer? Sound off in the comments below.
[source bungie.net, via bungie.net]
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bit off really if bungie new they were going to be doing this they shouldn't have released it on to the ps3 treating players like crap is never good for buisnes
It's bull. The game never should've launched on last-gen consoles to begin with, but it did, now they're screwing the people who supported it. Say whatever you like about MS, the post-MS era Bungie, is terrible.
Finally, ps3 has been holding the game back
I agree with that they should focus on PS4 as its the current gen console. But I do agree with Gamer83 it should not have been released on PS3 unless they were going to to support it for the complete cyle of the game.
Destiny was never going to last the full 'cycle' on PS3 and when they started, it was expected that 'year 3' would have seen the release of Destiny '2'. However the plans changed from their initial concept. Its still unclear as to whether or not Destiny will get a 'sequel' - Destiny 2 - or whether or not Bungie will bring out 'yearly' expansions (like Taken King/Rise of Iron). There is also the issue of how much they can add to games on 'old' systems due to memory constraints etc too. Rise of Iron may not be viable - at least not without having to make significant cuts to the game. Game like Black Ops 3 (for example) can't have any more DLC because the game is at its limit with the Hardware and this could be part of the reason that Bungie have taken this decision too. At least they have made it easy to transfer your stats to new hardware.
Rather than blame Bungie for this decision, I think those on 10yr old systems really can't expect or should expect developers to continuously support their console. They would be the first to complain that the content doesn't match up to that on current gen consoles if they had to really scale it back. Maybe they shouldn't have released the last 2years worth of content but at least that 2years of XP, earned gear etc can be transferred and its not as if the game will suddenly be unplayable on old gen...
It Shouldn't have been released on the PS3 if they where not going to support it until Destiny 2, why not stop support when Destiny 2 launches? Its alright people saying don't except new content on the PS3, but they're already had every bit of new content up until now. Destiny is a last new gen game as it is, is not going to look any better with this new DLC.
Sorry to say this, but honestly the PS4 is going on its 3rd year now people it's time to put the PS3 out to pasture. It's great that people enjoy the system but as technology gets better and better quicker and quicker, these older machines just can't keep up like say the PS2 did during the PS3 era could.
People confuse me they want stuff like VR and 4K graphics but complain when companies stop support on an older system.
I'm not against this but they should run an upgrade program like they did with call of duty ghost if nothing else to keep the player base up.
https://www.callofduty.com/ghosts/nextgen
@Tasuki I don't care about Destiny but this case is special... they sold the game on the last gen consoles for the same price they sold it in the new consoles so people who purchased in the old consoles so it's not unreasonable for people who purchased it in the old consoles to demand to be treated equally....
@sonicmeerkat The difference with Ghosts was that it only lasts a tear (in effect) but Destiny has been building for 2 years already. Its not like you can't transfer everything over to a PS4. Next gen Ghosts was also for a limited time and if you didn't upgrade to next gen within (I think) 4-5 months of Ghosts coming out, you lost the opportunity to transfer stats, season passes, DLC content etc to the next gen console. If you were to buy a PS4 now and buy Ghosts, you would effectively start from scratch now and won't have any access to DLC you may have purchased on PS3 unless you also buy that again too.
@DualWielding That's almost like expecting Arkham Knight or Uncharted 4 to have been released on Last Gen because you bought the Arkham series and Uncharted games on PS3. Black Ops 3 won't be getting any more DLC on PS3 either.
Yes they sold Destiny on last gen at full price and last gen owners benefited from that first year of content. Yes Bungie offered year 2 content at the same price and the last gen owners benefited from that year. Year 3 content though is not coming to last gen but year 1 and 2 is still playable and will continue to be playable. Iron Banner/Trials of Osiris are both linked to the 'yearly' content, levels, maps etc and therefore cannot continue. Same with all the 'events' as these are often linked to the content - maps, areas etc. Its not like Bungie are blocking you from playing year 1/2 content. Bungie have also given players a way of bringing all your gear, levels, characters etc forward into year 3...
@DualWielding Unless the older console just can't handle it. Developers now are making stuff to run on the PS4 and Xbox One and it could just maybe run properly on older consoles.
Good stuff, who knows if it was planned from the start, I doubt it was - they probably just looked at how things were going both internally and externally and decided the time was right. Fair play.
Once you've got a PS4, TTK can be picked up really cheap.
@BAMozzy But this is not a continuation of the franchise, like say Uncharted or Arkham games, this is extra content for a platform. The fact that people bought the same game at the same time for the same price back when the PS4 was brand new (and therefore the PS3 was not that dated) means that to suddenly discriminate against those customers that bought it on the old platform is pretty poor. Yes, the PS3 does need to be forgotten now for new games, but if you release the original game on it, you should deliver the same services to everyone no matter what platform they originally bought it on, no matter how "dated" we now perceive it to be
Not surprised. However last gen consoles usually last a long time in Japan, Sony has a hard time getting people to upgrade.
@BranJ0 BOTH Arkham Knight and Uncharted 4 ended a story line. It was a story that began on OLD, dated hardware but finished on the next gen so it is similar - if you want to play the last of Drakes Uncharted adventures or Batmans Arkham series then you have to buy a next gen console!
Bungie is NOT stopping you play ANY of the year 1 or year 2 content. Its NOT stopping you from playing ANY of the content that you have bought and paid for. Rise of Iron is a PAID for Expansion - its NOT a traditional game set up like Uncharted where each new game is a new game but will continue to build up over years! This was inevitably going to happen! Do you cry that Black Ops 3 isn't getting the rest of the Zombies story arc? Not going to get any more of the Maps or weapons (even if they are only available in Supply drops)
Extra content doesn't mean that you are entitled to it - or the chance to buy it - its hardly free!! If your console of choice cannot handle that content then you either go without or upgrade. Its better than paying however much it is and it not running properly or missing half of it just to run.
Bungie may have released 'Destiny' on older consoles 2 years ago thinking that people would have upgraded and transferred their data over by now. Under the original plan, Destiny 2 was coming out this year but only recently changed plans. I really don't think its fair on the majority of Destiny fans have their experience limited and restricted by developing the content to run on very much inferior hardware for the few remaining people that still retro game.
This expansion is a continuation of a franchise. The story of 'Destiny' (what there was of it) and its 2 expansions was told. The Taken King told its story and Rise of Iron will tell its story too. Destiny 2 (if that comes out) will no doubt bolt onto Destiny 1, allow you to carry all your gear and characters forward at the level they are at but add more areas to the growing list we have playable now. I can see that maybe we won't get a 'Destiny' 2 because it may not be possible to build onto Destiny 1 - if that the case, then its possible that Destiny will continue to expand every year in a similar fashion to what we have so far seen. No way will the OLD and significantly inferior consoles be able to cope with that!
The people who bought Destiny, its Expansions and the Taken King have got to play all the content made available for that 2 years and can continue playing it too. If you don't want to upgrade then that's your choice but you can't expect the PS3 to be supported indefinitely and hold back the experiences of the majority!
Eh, I never liked this game to begin with. I agree, why sell it at full price for the old gen, and then take away features that they were supporting. I can understand them not supporting new content, but to take away features that they sold the game on, at full price, that's terrible.
That being said, I got the game for under $20 on a black Friday sale, so I guess I can't complain too much 😉
@BAMozzy That's actually fair enough tbh, I guess I didn't really consider the scope of the content that PS3 users had already got. I also forgot that you can transfer your data over from PS3 destiny to PS4. So, my bad, sorry
It is pretty tight for PS3 gamers - some of whom might not be in a position to upgrade to a PS4. Not everyone can, some places still have healthy pS3 sales (second hand and trade ins included).
I could also understand if it was just that new updates wouldn't work on PS3, that is fine. However, if I understand correctly, taking away features that people may have paid for because of the legacy dev cost is not right.
@BranJ0 @BAMozzy Bungie has stopped them from playing Year 1 & 2 content because they have canceled Trials of Osiris and Iron Banner - two of the game primary competitive PvP modes. Canceling them also removes any chance of getting Weapons and Gear specific to those mode.
Its not about what you paid for or what the system can handle, its down to simple fact that Bungie don't want to commit Live Team manpower to monitor it.
@WayneDavies89 Bungie are NOT stopping you play tear 1 or 2 content at all. Both Trials of Osiris and Iron Banner are PvP events and both linked directly to the 'year' and/or latest updates. The 'latest' Weapons/Gear are linked directly to the current maximum level. They are NOT stopping you from playing the general Multi-player. How can you expect to get higher level gear, play on the latest Maps etc if you don't have the latest content? They are NOT the primary competitive MP modes but temporary events that occur at specific times. Its not stopping you from playing on any of the content you own, you bought and paid for!!
If you are on OLD gen, you are not contributing anymore to the game - you are not buying the latest content and funding the Live team, you are not able to buy Silver or buy any of the micro-DLC to contribute to the running of these events! You bought and paid for Yr1 and Yr2 content and had access to Yr1 and Yr2 live events too. You are NOT able to buy and participate in Yr3 content and that INCLUDES all Yr3 live events too!
@BAMozzy I didn't say the were the primary competitive content, but 2 of them. With the new split paths for old and new gen, the link with current updates, light and so on is irreverent. It is possible to keep the current PS3 build of Trials of Osiris and Iron Banner active without issue.
Trials of Osiris and Iron banner are regular scheduled content, full of loot to chase and they have they been canceled. The content can no longer be played, collected or enjoyed.
Frankly, and I say this as a day one Destiny gamer who places the original Halo on my friends' Xbox as the best FPS ever made - but old-gen systems hamstrung Destiny and Bungie from the get-go. They went from apparent control from Microsoft to being an extension of Activision - a far bigger evil - without realising what they lost; they were the auteurs of FPS games and Activision just HAD to make money the prevailing factor. Had Destiny been purely current-gen only, it would have flourished critically as well as commercially.
I have put more into Destiny that any other PS4 game, but as I'm now pretty much exclusively marvelling at GTA Online and Rockstars' presidency over their IP, it's a real shame PS4 owners didn't get QUITE the Halo standard we wanted. In gunplay terms, it is without question the best ever made, but graphically and in terms of structure Activision hamstrung Bungie to appeal to more buyers.
Destiny 2 should be a PROPER campaign which stirs the senses and motivates the player to go through the sorts of levels which give The Silent Cartographer legendary status. And enemy AI which the original Xbox mastered over 15 years ago.
Rant over. Anyone out there looking to run amok on GTA Online on PS4 send me a request to Galvatron___1976 - that's 3 underscores in a row 👌
@WayneDavies89 The link to current light levels and content IS important!! The fact that Light Level matters in these 2 live events is significant! The rewards are set at the current level and are limited time only loot (as in once the event is over, you have NO chance of getting them - you cannot get Yr1 Iron Banner gear/weapons - Yr2 may have similar but it has higher level) When you bought Destiny, you bought all the content on disc and access to year1's live events and 'gear' associated with that. When you bought year 2 (the Taken King) you bought access to all that the Taken King offered and a years worth of Live Events (and a chance to get all the Yr2 level of gear that this offered). That is now coming to an end and as you can't buy Yr3 content, you will also not be getting Yr3 access to live events and yr3 level rewards from these either.
Both of these PvP live events are tied to the light level and the 'rewards' reflect that. There is no more LOOT to chase for those that can't access it or buy access to it. They are LIVE events and tied to the Current level. Bungie are NOT stopping you access all of yr1 or yr2 content that you bought but part of what you bought was a yrs subscription to Live events. Everything, all the gear and loot that was available (apart from the limited time things like Trials, like IB and their loot) will not. Its that simple! Why should Bungie spend time and resources running 'live' events when you are NO longer paying anything towards the game - They supported you for the WHOLE year and you still have access to EVERYTHING that wasn't 'Live' or timed. You can still play PvP, Still earn ALL of Yr1/2 gear that wasn't 'timed'. If you want access to yr3's Live events then you need to upgrade and BUY the Rise of Iron and that will include another years worth of access to Live Events too...
80 million installed PS3's against 20 million PS4 , yeah, a Dumb move ....
Im not migrating to ps4 so, goodbye destiny !
Or just dont buy and play Destiny anymore as i see more fit. 😁
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