Soapbox: Let's Be Honest, E3 2016 Was Disappointing

They could have just shown that God of War demo and nothing else during the entire E3 and I'd still be happy. STOKED

Thought it was better than lasts years imo.

I'm very happy with what I saw. Lots of good stuff coming from everywhere & all platforms.

i didn't think it was a disappointment myself but it wasn't great either,it was just OK

A very meh E3. Take away Sony's conference and it'd have been dire.

I thought Sony was pretty good but everyone else, not so much. If a few more games had actual game play footage shown such as Bandicoot remasters and Mass Effect then I would be much more impressed and hyped.

A quick mix up video of a few of the more impressive upcoming indie games would have been nice as well. Sod the haters.

Still, not bad overall, Sony definitely saved it.

I think the games shown were decent. I just think its the way that they are presented that is the issue. Like EA they had dedent games which I liked but the way they come on stage an talk about them did not excite me. After that I did not watch another presentation I just caught up on the news.There are over 10 games I would buy that I saw at E3 and thats just off the top of my head without thinking.

Does anyone think there was truth to the rumour that Red Dead Redemption 2 was dropped from the Sony presser because of the mass shooting in america?

@ShogunRok I'd agree if not for Zelda also as that was the best part of E3.

I didn't expect anything huge but I am happy. Got the Crash remaster, Gravity Rush 2, Horizon and Spiderman. Oh and the RE7 demo. The most important part: Sony finally nailed the conference length and pacing.

Xbox showed the Slim, Scalebound (which still does not convince me, even if I worship Kamiya) and there is Gears and Forza.

For Nintendo I thought only Zelda would be a mistake, but thankfully they showed other things, including a new IP. Rhythm Heaven 3DS is available as of now in NA. And of course the main dish looks excellent.

I was hoping for something from sucker punch and maybe after the announcement some spiderman gameplay footage. I was also really hoping for news from rockstar a new red dead was top of my list but honestly I would of been happy with a midnight club as well.

I was so so on E3. Great games but The Last Guardian was one of the only games shown that's coming out this year. I've got the Crash remasters to be excited about and that's it.

I disagree. Ea with 3star wars games , dishonoured 2, remastered skyrim, square enix with ffxv, kingdom hearts, star ocean, Sony was awesome. New watch dogs looks awesome, steep has potential , new deus ex , would love to hear more about no no kuni 2 , was surprised that there was a second nier . its an exciting time to be a ps4 owner, can't wait for for the ps4 neo to show face

I do wish we'd got a release date for Ni no Kuni 2. Also no sign of a Red Dead Redemption 2 and Mass Effect still seems disappointingly far off.
It looks pretty good but I was a bit confused as to why Days Gone was OK'd by Sony when Naughty Dog are meant to be working on TLoU 2...
Horizon looked really good, I was looking forward to seeing more of it.

@get2sammyb haha yeah sure they are keeping it under wraps, hopefully get more info soon

I thought it was much beter than last year's highly overrated E3.

As a Sony guy, I'm pretty excited with what was announced at this year's E3. There are a handful of games I'm excited about now that I wasn't this time last week. That's a success in my book.

That being said, I'm really disappointed in Nintendo's showing at E3. I didn't expect a ton, but I figured we'd get more than Zelda. I'd love to be a Nintendo guy again at some point, but it's not ever gonna happen.

It was uneven overall, but there are several games I'm excited about. Zelda: Breath of the Wind, Resident Evil 7, The Last Guardian, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Persona 5, Gravity Rush 2, Shantae: Half-Genie Hero, Cuphead, and Gears of War 4 all looked great. Plus upcoming portable games like MH Generations and SMT IV: Apocalypse that I know I'll love.

Of course, there were disappointments. Even the Sony conference fell flat for me with that boring looking TLOU clone (I can't even remember what it's called!), the God of War game that looks too much like it wants to be Uncharted, and the Lego Star Wars game, because it's yet another Lego Star Wars game.

The two biggest disappointments of E3 for me were the lack of a real Crash Bandicoot game and the continued absence of Mass Effect: Andromeda.

The two biggest pleasant surprises were Resident Evil 7 and the new Zelda game.

I think it was a very safe mid-cycle E3. The thing is, all consoles of this generation are still to deliver a great deal of their promises — and the show reflected that. I imagine next year, with behemoth projects like Final Fantasy XV and Last Guardian out of the way and Neo/Scorpio more close to reality, things will get fresher and more surprising again. Not to mention NX, which will certainly be a thing then.

I wasn't disappointed as such - and overall I think Sony had the best show. But with leaks being so prevalent it's difficult to blow anyone away if something is expected. And there's no getting around the fact that everything this year was The Last of Us. (Well, not Crash. But I've never been a Crash fan). Sony's tactic at the shows has been famed games games for a few years now, and they played it safe and held on to that. They'll need to shake things up in the future to keep interest up though. I was hoping for a confirmation on VR options for No Man's Sky or a racing title of some sort, but maybe that's being held back for Neo?

Massively disappointing..... across the board

@get2sammyb E3 wasn't 'that' disappointing for me - not the best but certainly had enough games for me to look forward too - granted it 'could' have been better if some of the rumoured games turned up.

EA's was pretty much what we knew, so that didn't help. TF2 and BF1 look good but I hoped to see more from ME:A - never the less it still 'teased' more than we had seen - the ship, the mako, the citadel, the new lead some great looking environments... but showing so little felt disappointing. The Star Wars Segment was almost 'why bother!'

Bethesdas really was the biggest disappointment - leaks about Wolfenstein, Evil Within and Prey 2 being resurrected but Quake (not a series I am that fond of) returning and just MP and PC only, DLC, Prey completely new and quite generic looking - nothing like Prey 2 which looked unique and interesting. I was left not wanting anything they had to offer.

MS's was solid but a little safe as far as games go. I won't go into to much but I found enough here to keep me content - also most will be available before the next E3 - highlights include FH3, Gears4, Scalebound, DR4 and HW2 but overall I thought it was good, solid but safe.

Ubisofts are always entertaining in terms of presentation but I can't think of a single game that I really want or would buy at launch. Another presser that has saved my bank balance it seems.

Sonys was a very well presented show - the whole staging with the orchestra looked classy. I am not a fan of the God of War series but the demo looked great and 'almost' tempted me to buy. I know Last Guardian maybe popular but I still think it was the weakest game of Sony's line up and looked like it belonged on the PS3. Death Stranding was just weird and I wasn't bothered by the VR segment but pretty much everything else is a dead cert to buy. Horizon (my game of E3), Spider-Man (not exactly a surprise but still looked great), Crash Trilogy, CoD and of course Days Gone - A big and pleasant surprise and a great way to end. It did feel quite lacking in quantity but I can't argue with the longer videos of quality games and lack of inane chatter inbetween.

The first party/exclusives were certainly my highlights and the big third party really let E3 down. EA had the best of those - just because it had more games I wanted but I was left a bit disappointed by the behind the scenes instead of game-play approach, Rumoured games that didn't show up (especially RDR2) also left me a bit flat.

Therefore I really think the big two (MS and Sony) delivered but the big publishers certainly disappointed!

I got to see Zelda. I couldn't be happier. It's the only thing in the world that makes me an angry fangirl when someone insults it. I've already seen 30 year olds calling it a PS1 or Wii game. Ha freaking ha. Obviously it's not gonna look as realistic as some of those PS4 games we saw. OF COURSE IT DOESN'T. It isn't trying to. It's a cellshaded game. It's GOING for a cartoon style. I thought that was obvious but apparently not. It's Wind Waker all over again. My only complaint is that I wont be allowed to play it this year.

Sony: couldn't touch 2015.
MS: irrelevant.
Nintendo: hahaha no.

Pushsquare needs to push coverage of indies, they're the only ones who have a clue lately.

I thought it was great personally. Sony obviously destroyed everyone else and with one 30 min stream Nintendo convinced me to finally get a Wii u. I thought Microsoft did well also. Ubisoft, EA and Bethesda were all equally underwhelming but overall I thought it was great.

@Thrash13 But Nintendo did show more than just zelda. They showed Pokemon sun and moon, ever oasis, paper Mario: colour splash, Mario party star rush, monster hunter generations, dragon quest VII remaster, rhythm heaven megamix, harvest moon:skytree village, runbow pocket and SEVERED. And I know the main focus was on Zelda, but it looked spectacular. Really, if you can find nothing to like in any of those titles, than I'm wondering how you ever liked Nintendo in the first place

I really wanted to see Mass Effect Andromeda, and I'm always ready for my head to explode at the announcement of a new Turok game. But I never got "the chills" from anything this year (execept God of War), unlike with the unveiling of FFXV, MGS5, Horizon and SILENT HILLS (R.I.P.) last year.

For me it was pretty awesome. But it was 2am.

Idk about the entire E3, but I was as amazed with Sony's conference as I was last year.

If it wasn't for the leaks and all of the reveals in the prior week, it would have been quite a bit more impressive. Still a good show IMO, just not blow your socks off.

As far as Konami and SEGA (if your not counting ATLUS)......they might as well be dead.

@BranJ0 I'm not a handheld gamer, so that should supply enough of an answer for you of what I thought of Nintendo's E3 this year.

It was a weird E3. Last year was full of new announcements and this year was more a confirmation of stuff that we already knew about. That being said; a lot of games did look better than their first announcements, so that's a good thing. We finally got to see Zelda; TLG still looks amazing and so does Horizon. Gravity Rush 2 is doing fine and so are all the other games. The only thing I'm missing is the indie games. Where's all the new stuff? Sony didn't have an indie reel, and Nintendo didn't have a conference at all. We got to see ABZÛ, it looked fine, but not as fluid as Journey did when it released. No games like The Witness or Firewatch; I think that's the only thing I'm really missing. There was that indie game with those creepy faces, I have to check that out then..

Yep, like others have said, I thought the games shown were much better than last year's E3 and we won't be seeing Shenmue or FFVII for years either.

@Thrash13 Oh, haha, sorry! I guess you've got Tokyo Mirage Session#FE, but that's a VERY niche market, and since Zelda's ages away, and Paper Mario: Colour Splash is likely to repeat the mistakes of Sticker Star, I can understand your angle.

As a whole, I actually quite enjoyed E3. I'm very happy with Skyrim Special Edition, Crash Bandacoot collection, Spider Man, God of War 4, Battlefield 1, Zelda, and Final Fantasy XV. That's gonna keep more more than occupied for the year

@BranJ0 I definitely agree that E3 was pretty good overall, and PS4 stuff alone will keep me busy for awhile. I guess I just kept holding out hope Nintendo would announce Luigi's Mansion or something for Wii U. I guess the system is truly on its last leg though. There is so much potential for more on the system, but I don't blame them either.

What was dissapointing? I was pretty amped about most of everything I saw!

I've been away in Czech and Austria so haven't watched the full events yet but considering the massive news dip in the run up to E3 I expected more.

Really guys? 66% liked this E3? It was so bad, if not for Sony and Zelda everything else would be even worst. (Persona 5 and FFXV are great too, but the way that it was showed was so bad),

I think e3 2016 is amazing for sony and pc gamer (all xbox1 exclusive will be on pc), the others suck thought.

I loved what I saw - more or less. A ton of good news for a PS fanatic like moi. Spider-Man for the PS4 was announced as an exclusive, RE7 is back to horror, God of War 4 will not make me cringe my teeth every time Kratos opens his mouth, the Last Guardian looks awesome, Titanfall 2 looks mighty nice, Skyrim was announced for my PS4, Detroit looks as Dream-y as it gets, Prey is definitely on my watch list, Injustice 2 just WOW, Xenoverse 2 ... it was awesome.

Only thing missing was a gameplay vid in the streets of Midgar, but I'm willing to get that as a Christmas present.

So no, this E3 wasn't underwhelming for me in the slightest. I wanted Sony to deliver and it did.

Beyond.

Not as good as last year, but it was still a pretty solid show.

Wow! It really makes me sad when someone in the game industry is so impressively jaded that they don't realize how lucky they are, and amazing it is, to be able to attend a show like E3. To call E3 2016 "disappointing" makes me scratch my head. I've been in this industry since 1994. My first job was at SEGA in customer service for the launch of the 32x. Since then I've held jobs as a game tester, assistant producer, game designer and even a short stint as a game journalist. I've been to too many E3's to count (including this one) and not once have I ever felt anything but blessed and in complete awe at every E3 I had the pleasure attending. I've never felt "disappointed" that's for damn sure! I remember working at video game shops in the mall reading EGM and GamePro magazine wishing I could go to shows like E3. And ever since 1994, I've never forgotten that feeling. I guess what I'm trying to say is there are millions of gamers out there that would give their left foot to be where we are. Take a step back and appreciate that. E3 2016 was anything BUT disappointing.

P.S. I created an account just to leave this comment

@Jamiii3

It's just loveable Sammy, his opinions are pretty questionable most of the time!.....

It had complete lack in any of the genres I really like, so yeah, it was very disappointing.

It was better then 2016 for me. And I loved it last year. Horizon, Last Guardian, For Honor, Bound, ABZÛ, Nier Automata, God of War, Spiderman, Gravity Rush 2, Days Gone, Detriot, Dishonored 2, Persona 5. I think if you didn't like it your nuts.

It was great for a few of reasons;

Blue eyed Bethesda from last year better learn quickly, that presentation was all old games and PC crap. We dont want that! Great banter at their expense.

Ubisoft - A great selection of new and interesting games, turning the ass creed plus shooter cycle around somewhat.

Sony - Away from retro gamers and concentrating on some newer stuff (with the exception of the coot) with an amazing Spiderfreak game!

Xbox - some brilliant competition in the form of Scorpio to hopefully put neo back in the box until a proper PS5 in a few years.

Square - FF15 looks appalling and good at the same time. Like corned beef hash.

Great E3 - we just need a few new IPs from Bethesda and EA as thetes too much reliance on last gen franchises.

@themcnoisy You Square commentary made me lol!

Biggest disappointment for PlayStation and MS was that Zelda stole the show!! But it wasn't a bad e3!!! You wait until year 5 when things are cooling down

@sub12 Fair enough. Guess I need to get more acquainted with his personality. Thanks for the reply!

Sony and Nintendo held it up for me while everything fell very flat in my opinion.

E3 was disappointing with the likes of EA etc, but for me Sony definitely saved E3. I am already choosing what games i am buying, like GOW, Horizan Zero Dawn, Days Gone, Spiderman etc. There is so meny to choose from, i'll be broke.

I honestly got more excited over this years reveals and showoffs than any other, even more than last year (which, to be fair, FF7, NMS and Uncharted stole the show) there were definitely more out of the blue surprises and maybe more impressive gameplays in terms of quantity. Detroit for me was a standout, and I think in terms of what the author wants from a developer is a bit wishful thinking. Like they are more, here is our output, what we like, it's not up to you, you will either buy it or not. I think it looked good anyway!

sammy you are wrong

and dishonored 2 is way better than call of doodoo.so yeah everyone wanted a sequel.

Just realised that may look like I'm slagging the author off! I'm not I promise! One of the few online that talk sense! I just think us consumers shouldn't get to say what type of game any developer makes, if that makes sense? It's definitely ambitious, and I do wonder if those conversation/action branches will have a genuine effect on the rest of the game/story as you progress, but I think it's bold anyway!

It started off meh, but MS had a decent showing, Sony had a great showing, and Nintendo, while not contributing much, brought the highlight of E3. Altogether Im actually pretty happy.

Thing is, E3 should be a time for gamers to cross "party lines" and see what else is being shown. A time for Sony fans to admire ReCore, and Zelda, and Halo Wars 2, and Monster Hunter. A time for Nintendo fans to appreciate God of War and Gravity Rush 2. A time for MS fans to take a gander at Horizon Zero Dawn.

Instead, the only games people tend to admit looked great were- surprise surprise, games announced for their own console.

Legend of Zelda: Breath of the wild alone made me love this year's E3. And horizon: zero dawn, and Spooderman didn't hurt either.

I was really hoping for a Syphon Filter game. I still liked the show, but damn if they would've announced Syphon Filter, I would have been pumped beyond belief.

@DrClayman r u referring to the Nintendo idea haha? I'll be honest I think Sony had some strong titles but Microsoft did too and I think if Microsoft wasn't gonna show devs at work or interviews they would have killed us...
But saying that if we look at the games of the show on any website except for Microsoft and Sonys own you'll see that not many of the games are actually Microsoft

@get2sammyb Taylor swift has seen more willy's than a public toilet.

@Boxmonkey Zelda didn't stole the show.it sucks

I gotta say meh, if there was wolfenstein 2 and red dead 2 around I'd change my opinion to good.

@playstation1995 agreed zelda still has age old mechanics it looked meh imo.

God of war looks fantastic and sony's conference was on form for me the 'winner' of e3 but this year's e3 was definitely lacking.
And considering all that Nintendo has in the pipeline they showed so little besides zelda (which looked great).
Some things to keep an eye on but e3 didn't get me that hyped the way last year's did, if anything I would say it was the most disappointing e3 in recent years

Sony was good for showing their future line up but it's hard to get excited until i get my hands on horizon zero dawn. I read great impressions from people who played the game and that makes me exited this could be a next uncharted ( blockbuster for Sony). I read days gone could also come out next yr and I saw the extended trailer that looks really good. Spider-Man is probably so far off from release the thrill will go away for awhile until you ta close to release.

The last guardian has some bad press from those who played the game. It's a shame you take this long to make a game and for it to look like a ps2/3 game.

@Jamiii3 I'm off to egx in September for the first time, I've never been to a conference or presentation so its pretty exciting. But I suppose, if you get everything you've wanted all at once, like last years Sony presentation, then its pretty tough to top. Leaks were everywhere during the run up to E3 and Both Bethesda and EA had poor conferences I think we can all agree on that. So I can definitely understand why the conference would appear to be lacklustre, when as a whole, 20ish must play games were presented.

@Bazza78 change 'age old' for 'timeless' and 'meh' for 'flabbergasting' and your pretty much right.

@ShogunRok well considering this site is only about Sony's consoles, then it isn't dire and actually good

@themcnoisy in your opinion , not mine. Change that son. Bet you can't.... Look at horizon zero dawn. And then tell me zelda is impressive , by todays current standards.

I'm a bit confused what you meant when you said Death Stranding isn't really a game.

I liked it. I really don't have that crazy "I want to play ALL of these games NOW" feeling like I have previous E3s, but I still enjoyed it.

I think it was decent, not great E3. GoW looks amazing but we'll be lucky if it is holiday 2017, Horizon looks amazing too. Some games did surprise me though: both Battlefield and CoD looked like games to pick up this year. South Park looks like a lot of fun and For Honor has really got me excited which surprised me a lot.

It was ok

@themcnoisy
Maybe it's because I'm not a Final Fantasy but I'm looking for the 'great' part. I'm certainly with you on appalling and I think it's hilarious they can't decide what kind of battle system to use. That is core the experience of an RPG. Pick turn based or not and stick to just one.

I thought Sony had its best showing ever. No indies, even though they have taught me to like some of them, anything that looks like it can be played on an nes doesn't belong on stage.

Ubisoft wasn't as strong as usual and Bethesda was doomed after last year's phenomenal showing.

Sony first party was strong enough to make this a great e3 for me.

Mafia 3 looks outstanding too...

@Tasuki

Eh there is a difference between a cowboy walking in a bar and shooting it up and soldiers shooting soldiers in series that are known for nothing else. I still find it strange that they ended with days gone. I believe somethinGod else was there, even if it wasn't red dead. My initalics feeling was last of us 2 teaser but maybe they pulled it because show was so strong...

I dunno

I think that what was missing was some of the long lost//long in development titles that we were looking for that last years E3 delivered in spades. Also, new IP's seemed thin on the ground. For example, Doom, Fallout 4 from Bethesda - games fans wanted but hadn't heard about until E3 and both out within the calendar year.

I think Sony did well because they showed the most original content. However, again they showed ace stuff with no timelines attached. Days Gone, great - when, don't know. Last Guardian, since has a release date but no one trusts that. Spiderman, awesome, don't know when. Death Stranding - amazing trailer for a game that is only a few months into dev by a notoriously perfectionist developer. I felt that I would see a lot of that stuff again in next years demo. Most of the stuff with release dates had already been revealed.

"Did anyone really want another one?"(Dishonoured 2) ........ of course we do!!!!!!

I thought Son'y game lineup was great. Not as big an impact as last year but loads there I can't wait to play. BUT - the show as a whole I felt fell completely flat. The conferences seemed somnewhat muted, MS and Nintendo were dull as dishwater (new Zelda aside), and so much of the 'cool' stuff got announced before the show because companies are so obsessed with getting social media and news traction away from the spectacle of the show itself. Think that's the main issue now - there's so much to choose from that no one wants to try and 'win' E3, they want to spread it out so everything gets equal exposure. Which I understand, but it takes away from the overall excitement a little bit.

Sorry Sammy, I'm gonna have to disagree with you once more!

I thought this was a great E3. It seemed to be actually focused on substance instead of style.

Ironically, I thought Sony's conference was the most disappointing - not because of the content shown, but rather, the company's insistence on highlighting games that are way too far from release... though I suppose there's also PSX, Gamescom and Paris Game Show, too. I also wasn't too fond of how most of their big games have become Naughty Dog-esque 'cinematic' products; almost as if they were obligated to do so. But that's just me nitpicking. I'm still plenty excited for the games themselves. The VR showings were surprisingly good, too.

Microsoft had a solid show. What it lacked in megaton announcements, it made up for in actual solid content that's actually within reach. Again, the biggest announcement - the Xbox Scorpio - actually leaves me cold. Surely Sony and Microsoft know that engaging in such an arms race is utterly pointless? Sorry dudes, but I prefer Nintendo's philosophy - fun and innovation above grunt.

Speaking of Nintendo, Zelda simply blew away even my own lofty expectations. The fact that they could pull-off such a feat on the 'Wiik U' just reinforces my aforementioned opinions on console power. The other games they showed looked like a lot of fun, too. Paper Mario, Dragon Quest, Ever Oasis, Pokemon... The next 12 months look incredibly bright.

@playstation1995 I certainly hope that isn't your year of birth, PLEASE tell me it isn't.

@fluggy I want Dishonored 2,i think it is wanted in general imo....... Still dissapointed over all despite that there was a bunch stuff i liked there.Quake Hero's in parcticular,apparently it may well hit ps4 despite being announced otherwise.So its a semi -hypothetical PS4 title really that i'm most excited for.Thats a downer.As for certified ones,I actually wanted to see more indie stuff,Not Nes/Snes style ones but The Forrest,Ark,Formula Fusion Killing Floor 2 (not sure if that one's indie) and the like.Steep and BF1 seem pretty nice.Had a complete lack of interest in all the Sony stuff this year.Kind of glad E3 is finished,found it Stressful,I think 'cos of my potential fianicial collapse with all the new hardware on the way,Kind of want PSVR now,and of course PS4N.And Scorpio,or maybe a gaming PC or uh,i dunno.I need to sew my wallet shut for a bit now.

Lol Zelda is so much better than sony crap

@BMORRI Nintendo Life is that way -->

This year, it felt like half a recap of last year in a way. If anything, that is what let me down.

I agree that E3 as a whole was a disappointment, many of the things shown at E3 were already known about at least year's E3 and simply got more gameplay and a release date. That's not to say there weren't a few surprises like RE 7 and Zelda, but generally speaking, this E3 was basically "We are in a transition period again until 2017".

Im glad for Detroit and also for Fahrenheit Remaster announcement for PS4 (ok, that is postE3). God of war - great!

Clickbait headline, Pretty flat, descriptive and overly subjective article. Well, at least we have an interesting debate going now

@BMORRI That's a great first comment, enjoy your ban.

@nathanSF "overly subjective article" - that's why it's a soapbox, this is Sammy's personal opinion.

The only additions I could really ask for from this year's E3 is an actual release date for the PS4K and for Nintendo to actually care about developing and marketing to core gamers again instead of chasing the casuals which are well out of their reach and have been for years (but that's never going to happen).

@get2sammyb it was a much better showing then last year.

I thought it was a good E3 overall, judging mainly on the games available outside the conferences as well, and those soon incoming. I know I'd definitely want to buy God of War, For Honor, Last Guardian, Resident Evil VII (and maybe even VR with it!), South Park, Grow Up, Detroit, Dishonored 2 and Cuphead.

And then there are some titles that it's too early to tell like Death Stranding and Days Gone, but I'm very interested in seeing their development.

The only new game announcement that excited me was Spider Man. Other than that, I'm looking forward to Horizon, The Last Guardian, and possibly Ghost Recon Wildlands.
It was a decent show. I would have liked it much more if I enjoyed over the top violent games like God of War, Resident Evil, or Days Gone... But I don't.

My biggest complaint was the limited demographic they are catering to.

@Riririn it's not the style but the hardware limitations. And it's true. Bad frame rate and low poly...but I don't care, it's gonna be mine day 1, it looks incredible. I just imagine how even more "wow" it could be if it had current technology behind it and it's a pity we can't have that on top of everything else. I mean when Ocarina of Time came out it was a technological marvel. One thing doesn't exclude the other...