Hmmmm, this is an interesting little detail. In a new video on the official PlayStation YouTube channel, lead system architect Mark Cerny reveals that the revised DualShock 4 controller, which will be packaged with the PlayStation 4 Slim and PlayStation 4 Pro, won't just add another lightbar - it will, in fact, offer minimised latency when it's connected to the console via USB.
In other words, if you're playing a title that relies heavily on quick, precise inputs - like a fighting game or an action game - you should experience more responsive controls with the new DualShock 4. Cerny himself states that "you can now directly connect the controller to the console, and send signals by USB, which, when you're playing a fighting game, and you want the absolute minimum latency, it's just heaven."
Like we say, it's an interesting comment, and we're certainly looking forward to seeing if this change has any real impact.
Sound good to you? Step up your Street Fighter game in the comments section below.
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But the current DS4 can connect via USB to computers so... why not just enable direct usb support for those too?
It's just crazy that this is something we've actually sacrificed in recent times.
I play Wii U games at my bros. sometimes and I'm shocked by how much lag there is between me making an input and the game actually reflecting it onscreen. Playing classic games like Super Mario World and F-Zero on it simply don't feel anywhere near as good as they used to, and it's a real shame that some people will never even realise how much better games can feel to play when little things like this are just spot on. And, to be clear, it's a combination of the the wireless Wii U GamePad and this HDTV that is at the heart of the problem.
It's bad.
I'm kinda really glad that VR basically forces hardware manufacturers and developers to get rid of any lag; it's how responsive all games should be.
I always play with my controller plugged in so this is good news. Any idea the price for one of these and will they work with original PS4s?
Sounds good I guess, but I'm perfectly happy with the 20th Anniversary edition Dualshock4.
@Grawlog
Ya same here,
DualShock 4, Wii U gamepad/Pro Controller/Wiimote, X1 controller...
Never noticed lag at all. On anything. On any system.
Won't be a selling point for me. Thank goodness too cause I don't wanna buy new controllers ever couple years.
@Gamer83 - Yep. Love the 20th Anniversary Dualshock. I have the matching headset too.
@Splat
The headset is nice as well. Disappointed I missed out on getting one when they were available.
All I want is bigger battery, also there's no way I'm going to play my ps with cable, wireless is the future yo..
@Gamer83 Hello fellow 20th anniversary edition dualshock 4 owner
@Gamer83 they're on amazon dude! =)
@Tasuki of course no worries there man! =)
@Kolma 2 words.. marketing gimmick. even the ps4 pre launch leaks showed a DS4 being used via USB. It's quite silly that what lengths companies are willing to go to gain an "edge"
How about better battery life? That's so obvious it hurts, nobody gives a $hi! about the light.
"Step up your SF game" Ramsey?,......winners play KOF (unless your talking about the Alpha series).
Don't intend on going back to wired controller's unless I am playing older consoles so this isn't a selling point for me.
Better battery life and less latency wireless would be cool
would it have better battery life?
Yeah BATTERY?
Literally pointless unless they improve battery life.
Battery life is the only important thing.
@Dodoo @Neurotic_Biotic @sub12
My controller is dead after 10 months, at first I thought it had something to do with the PS4 but my Blackberry & Iphone are charging fine...
So yeah, better battery.
@Kirk Hey Kirk I had this issue in the first few months of Wii U owning. I figured it out and it was not the console or controllers to blame: My Samsung TV was digitally processing the HDMI input for smoother image, I had to change it to "Game mode" so it would just bypass the signal. I have zero input lag ever since.
@Shiryu Even when my bro sets his TV to "game mode" I can still perceive a lag. Now, maybe it's just in my head but something doesn't feel quite right whenever I play the likes of old SNES games through the Virtual Console on his Wii U. I'm pretty certain there's a measurable delay between input and output that was definitely not perceptible on an actual SNES with a wired controller running through an SDTV. And, both annoyingly and sadly, it really does make the games just a tiny bit less brilliant to me, literally, which means anyone who's playing these games on the likes of Wii U for the first time will never fully know how truly great the really are.
@Kirk Ah, I never played SNES on Wii U so am unsure how that feels. I began noticing the input lag on "Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Special Wii U Edition" and fortunately figure what was happening quickly.
Aw, I thought they meant I can plug it into any USB connection and play without having to worry about draining battery. I have no interest in getting a USB cable long enough to connect to where my PS4 is...nevermind.
This was the only thing I was happy to hear about after PSMeeting lol...not no more.
As for input lag, I've only noticed it on a few games on PS4 and it was so minuscule that I wouldnt consider it much of a drawback. Don't play fighting games other than SSB and that has performed perfectly fine for me.
@Kirk "And, to be clear, it's a combination of the the wireless Wii U GamePad and this HDTV that is at the heart of the problem."
That's a known problem with the Wii U Gamepad. Try playing with a Wiimote or a Classic Controller and you should see reduced lag.
@sub12 I mentioned SF because being super good at SFV requires some serious frame data knowledge. Seemed to fit the bill!
Increased battery capacity of GTFO Mark Cerny.
@Kirk The past few weeks I've been thinking the Gamepad should have been wired. Oh sure people would have scoffed, but it would have taken care of a few things that might have made it worth while. The battery life issue would be removed, maybe even save a little on price. The idea that it's actually a tablet, b/c it isn't, it only works 8' from my tv, that's not a tablet, it's a wired controller. The confusion that it's a separate accessory for the Wii never would have arisen.
Now it wold have needed to be a long wire, 12' has a nice round number ring to it, but at least people would have known what they were buying. And maybe if the first Gamepad was wired, and the Wii U didn't need to send that info wirelessly, then maybe later on a 2nd smaller, wireless, better battery Gamepad could have been launched for 2 player. Or a 3rd party like Nyko release it's own wirleess adaptor to plug between the two.
I live in a 2 story house, my TV and Wii U are in the basement. My living room couch is right above it. I can't use the Gamepad out of the basement. Wired may not have gotten them any more sales, but it would have cleared up a few things.
And if it does turn out NX is a hybrid that needs to be in a dock to play on the TV, just a controller is wireless, well we're back to being tethered to the TV again, TV out from any handheld should be via wireless dongle or dock. Of course PS4 Pro should have had an ultra drive, so there ya go.
Well, Scorpio it is.
@Kirk Try Bishi Bashi on PS3 for some downright, shocking and unforgivable input lag.
That's nonsense, even if it does have better latency, you wouldn't notice the difference. I haven't experienced a single bit of input lag in any ps4 game with the regular controller plugged in or not. So i don't see how this controller could improve upon an already perfect responsive controller...
@Neolit Two words 150 Euro.
@Grawlog I agree. I play mostly single player so hardly any lag for me. Except with the WiiU gamepad. That has lag sometines, especially noticable in Mario Maker.
@wittypixel Not a gimmick at all. DS4 lag has been a huge issue with Fighting game players since every DS4 within range adds input lag and when you are in a room with 5-20 PS4s and a large number of DS4 controllers that lag stacks up and it is very noticeable and puts pad players at a disadvantage to those using a wired Arcade Stick. Sony has spent a lot of time and money on Street Fighter 5 and it is about time they havedone something to address this issue.
Amazing!!! . DS4 lag has been a huge issue with Fighting game players since every DS4 within range adds input lag and when you are in a room with 5-20 PS4s and a large number of DS4 controllers that lag stacks up and it is very noticeable and puts pad players at a disadvantage to those using a wired Arcade Stick. Sony has spent a lot of time and money on Street Fighter 5 and it is about time they havedone something to address this issue.
@Kirk Even TV's set to game mode can have an unacceptaple amount of display lag. go to www.displaylag.com and find one that has no more than 10 milliseconds of display lag
Pretty sure a guy proved that if you actually turn your DS4 on while connected via USB (and not before) all input signals are sent via cable...
@walravenweekly Cheers.
@walravenweekly I understanad wireless intereference and all and I know the lag is real.
It is a gimmick because the old controller is capable of functioning the same over USB, so it's kinda sucky to see them marketing it as a new feature. I know the old one works because it works just find on USB via PC and it works on the PS3! lol
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