It's not been a good few months if you pay attention to the UK sales charts. There have been a handful of success stories: Mafia III, against all odds, exceeded expectations – while Battlefield 1 has done well for itself. But by and large, it's been a quarter of catastrophic sequels: Titanfall 2? Down. Gears of War 4? Down. Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare? Down. Dishonored 2? Down. Watch Dogs 2? Down. Final Fantasy XV? Well, we're going to have to wait and see.
But just what's going on? The declines in some cases are massive: Ubisoft's aforementioned hack-'em-up has reportedly fallen some 300,000 units short of its predecessor's launch tally in the UK. Yes, you can chalk up greater competition and a maturing generation for the decline, but surely it should be doing better than that? Titanfall 2 actually launched on more platforms than its forebear, debuting for the first time on the PlayStation 4 – but still came up short.
Digital sales are on the rise, and the likes of Chart-Track don't take those numbers into account. But publishers seem to indicate that, while it accounts for a greater share of the market these days, a maximum of 30 per cent or so sales are coming through virtual shopping plazas like the PlayStation Store – certainly not enough to make up for some of the declines that we're seeing this Christmas in the UK at least.
This generation seemed new and exciting in the heady days of 2014, but the new intellectual properties have dried up
Perhaps there's a fatigue setting in? This generation seemed new and exciting in the heady days of 2014, but the new intellectual properties have dried up, and escalating development budgets have pushed publishers down the path of producing more of the same. No Man's Sky, for all its eventual flaws, generated significant interest because it promised something new and different, and while it didn't quite pan out in the final product, its sales reflected that intrigue.
But then, if it's new and interesting that the market is yearning for, then surely The Last Guardian should be setting pre-order records right now? In reality, the long-awaited Team ICO title will probably flounder – even if its reviews are strong. It's not even that people are sticking with the tried and tested: FIFA 17 may be doing well as always, but Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare couldn't come close to keeping up with Black Ops III – itself in decline from the franchise's heydays.
Maybe the turbulent climate in the UK right now is to blame, with the October NPD painting a contrasting 6 per cent uplift in software sales year-over-year in the United States. Or perhaps it's a case of discount culture taking hold: Black Friday is right around the corner, and games like Titanfall 2 are already beginning to be cut in price. Perhaps the market is simply getting wiser to waiting for price drops, which seem to come quicker than ever these days.
Whatever the reasons, it's clearly not been a great holiday for the big brands – in the UK, like we say. If the issue is one of fatigue, then the major publishers may be sweating, because with development cycles so elongated these days, it's going to take time for them to change course. Let's hope, then, that this is merely a bubble of bad results, which will pop with the arrival of Horizon: Zero Dawn and Mass Effect Andromeda in the New Year.
What do you think has been the reason for this holiday season's seemingly endless run of bad results? Are you buying less games than you have in previous years, and if so, why? Do you think that this trend is going to continue, or is it just a blip? Draw some graphs in the comments section below.
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Final Fantasy XV flopping? WHAT? THIS GAME WILL BE PERFECT AND WILL SELL LIKE HOT CAKES. YOU TAKE THAT BACK
In terms of the others, I didn't buy a single one. They all seem kinda lackluster to me (not really into pvp shooters). I'm also saving all my time for FFXV (surprise!).
EDIT: I should add that I LOVED Watch Dogs 1. I have 0 interest in this new one because of the new setting/mood of the game. I miss gritty Chicago and I really liked Aiden.
People are bored of those games, and the audience they have/had is limited. Video games need fresh ideas, and these games don't deliver.
People don't take into account for a good 3 years of the PS4 life its been cross gen games selling on both the PS4 and PS3, its obvious game sales will be down among other things. Like Titanfall 2 Beta didn't go very well at all with people on YouTube saying Titanfall was better than Titanfall 2 & for the fact Titanfall wasn't on the PS4, Watch Dogs was a let down for most on release and people are surprise sales are down.
Well, I think there's fairly reasonable explanations for most of them.
Titanfall 2 was sandwiched between Call of Duty and Battlefield. EA are to blame for that. Titanfall should have been pushed to March or April or something, a nothing month, where it could shine. Instead, it was between two mammoth games that ate its sales.
Watch Dogs 2 is probably suffering from all the people who felt burned after buying into the absurd hype of the first Watch Dogs. Pop me into that category.
Call of Duty sales have hit a peak and have been dropping off over the last few years, although it still sells big.
With Dishonored 2, it's entirely plausible that the lack of reviews out there singing its praises contributed to a somewhat lacklustre performance, or perhaps it was just because it came out in a fairly busy month.
From my perspective, I've played fewer games this holiday than I think I ever have. PlayStation VR really excited me at launch, and has consumed most of my gaming time so far this Christmas.
Of the titles that did release, I can appreciate the quality of all of them, but nothing's really jumped out at me and made me want to play it. And that includes the likes of Dishonored 2, a sequel to a game I thoroughly enjoyed and awarded a 9/10.
It's definitely a case of fatigue for me, because I know the games are good, I just have no real inkling to play them. If this general malaise applies to the entire market, though, that's quite worrying.
(I can't wait for The Last Guardian, so there's that.)
I guess people are looking for more innovation and less sequels
I also think that this generation has been so bad with QC and releases have typically never even been play tested. Gamers have learnt to wait for game patches etc before rushing to buy. Furthermore, with so many games being released gamers just can't afford them all and often are waiting for price drops before purchasing.
@NathanUC I couldn't agree more on all points. I think PvP shooters are meh at best (other than Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare!), and the atmosphere of Watch_Dogs one is quite different than Watch_Dogs 2.
@get2sammyb I have the opposite experience. I have bought a lot of games recently, and holding off on buying more (even though I want to) because of my current backlog and FFXV. To be fair though none of the games you listed in your article, other than FFXV interest me at all, at any price. I may look into Dishonored 2, but I have yet to finish the first one, and FFXV is around the corner, so by the time I am ready to play that game, it will be bargain bin anyway.
I got Titanfall recently only because it dropped in price. Most of the shooty-footy games that UK loves don't interest me.
Why buy day 1 if I can wait for discounts and fixing of broken launch games or their Definitive editions?
I definitely think it's fatigue. Especially since this has been the generation of remasters, soulless sequels, and high profile let downs - how could there not be fatigue.
I really hope that Horizon:ZD isn't yet another GTA/AC sandbox clone (it has towers to climb....), and I hoe Hellblade lives up to expectations- but I can see both falling prey to fatigue.
It is possible that an aging gaming population plays into this, too.
I think with VR, the Slim and the Pro coming out in the past few months would obviously put a dent in people's pockets. And with Watch Dogs, the first one was a new IP with so much hype but the majority of people were left disappointed with it, so that's probably what turned people of it.
In term of Titanfall, that's down to EA's own stupidity really.
Too many games coming out. Pretty sure this is why Sony delaying games and it will probably work well for them again.
I think many gamers just wait to buy games: no reason to buy a broken game or to spend € 70 on Day one when they can wait 2 or 3 months to play them patched, spending less money.
I feel it might be the lack of innovation, not necessarily in IPs, but in game types. This generation feels so so similar to the last one, you've got you open world action, your shooters, your rpgs etc, which is almost the same as last gen, but bigger and more refined. I feel like every new gen before that had something new to offer, like mario 64, or gta 3 for example.
Personally, I'm alright, I've bought most of these games, but I can see why a lot of people might feel like we've been playing the same games for the past 10 years.
Fatigue of me too shooters like COD. Titanfall suffered from an unfortunate release window. Dishonored 2 suffered from Bethesdas anti consumer reviews policy, watch dogs 2 suffering from watch dogs hangover /ubisoft open world template fatigue. most of all people are getting wise. At this time of year, games get discounted heavily in the run up to Xmas and new year and people have become wise to it. Infinite Warfare / mw double pack already selling for £50 in some places. Last guardian will sell enough, but is obviously niche. Final fantasy 15 should do well, but may suffer from underwhelming e3 demo and ff13 hangover, but still expect it to do big numbers.
Mass Effect will sell very well when released .
I haven't been grabbed by any recent titles either; except maybe Battlefield 1, but I will wait for the price to drop on that. I do think that cost is a factor, when you look at the prices of new games. I am definitely going to buy Horizon: ZD though, in the new year. Also agree about too many remasters and mediocre sequels.
We are waiting for the 1 that took over a decade to make...
and it will arrive world wide a week tomorrow.......
This is the reason I have a Playstation 4.
For me personally it's because there is nothing new and original. All the big games there are sequels. Sometimes I want to experience something completely new. Playing a new cod game every year gets old. Watch dogs 2 and dishonered 2. Well that's just a re-hash of what's been before. Like I say, give me something I have never experienced.
I would make a distinction regarding Titanfall 2. It is one of the most innovative shooter this year with a "customer-friendly" DLC free policy, it should have deserved better reception from the userbase, but EA marketing dpt. is probably run by monkeys.
For the rest of the bunch I believe is mainly a matter of fatigue. Too many recent games came out with big flaws and lack of QC, plus the No Man's Sky affair that bruised so many people....
The only big success has been Battlefield 1. DICE took care of the critics they receive after Star Wars Battlefront release and they also found a nice historical period to explore. Too many space shooters and too many open world sandbox whatsoever.....
For my perspective games are released broken. All these games that ha e come out have been broken/buggy. Wat hdogs 3 no multiplayer. Heard stories of dishonoured 2 very buggy and barely running, and also releasing games that no one wants . no proper market research done
I think it's all down to people being wary of botched launches and glitchy games and waiting for said games to be fixed and discounted.
Watch as video games light up at the weekend.
For me I am just not made of money. I am a lot more cautious buying games at launch because of the problems we have had in the past.
Here's another angle to the conversation: are people content simply playing more of a handful of games? You look at stuff like Destiny, Overwatch, and Grand Theft Auto Online, and they all have massive playerbases who are content with what they've got.
I personally have experienced very little excitement over this generation's games which is probably a side effect of how last generation played out. We are fed sequel after sequel with very little originality fed to us, the release schedule is filled with products that people who don't fully understand gaming decide on to make money. I'm guessing a lot of people are getting burnt out on playing the same games with minor alterations.
On top of this we have bugged releases and people realising that waiting a couple of months nets you a working product for half the launch day price. I also wonder if the reduced number of games getting an early enough review for people to get hyped about a game is having an impact.
Another concern is, with the console manufacturers releasing new hardware, people may be waiting until they pick a new console up before investing any further in gaming - if you are going to be able to play a game in a better state with new hardware in the next year, why not wait and experience it like that?
But, as I said, for me it is just the lack of anything new in the AAA market that is making me apathetic towards buying new games. Given 90%+ of my gaming time in the past couple of months has been spent on a £15 indie game with pretty much nothing released or releasing in the AAA market making me pay attention, I think software companies need to be more open to taking risks to get people's attention back.
What this article hasn't taken into consideration is the additional/new hardware on sale and the 'extra' cost this can lead too. Both Sony and MS have launched 'new' consoles and both the Pro and XB1s, with 4k and HDR capability can lead to purchases of 4k HDR TV's to take advantage of that hardware. Sony also released PSVR and that requires a camera and could also lead to the purchase of Move controllers.
As a demonstration of how much that could cost lets look at PS4 Pro (£350), PSVR (£350 headset + £50 camera + £70 move twin pack) and 55" 4k HDR10 TV (£1000) - that bundle costs £1820! Yes you may find some items slightly cheaper and could compromise on HDR10 and settle for something that offers 'some' of the HDR effect.This is without considering any game purchase.
So CoD is down on sales - That was predicted months ago when the games 'space/future' setting was revealed and the follow up to Ghosts essentially. Titanfall 2 fell between the biggest FPS franchises. Watchdogs 2 is a sequel to a game not many people really wanted and launched 'broken' - the first had a lot of negativity around it too - like visual downgrading for example. Dishonoured 2 is a sequel to a 'niche' (and marmite - you either love or hate it) game - couple that with all the remasters available - Skyrim, batman, bioshock... Gears 4 maybe down too but its not made by Epic and doesn't feature the same cast. After 343 messing up Halo, I am not surprised some are wary of the Coalition taking over.
From my Point of View, I have been able to invest in new hardware because generally this year has been relatively quiet on games that I really wanted. I bought Uncharted 4 and that was it until September (Rise of Iron).
Nothing grabbed my attention - Doom looked good as a SP campaign - didn't like the MP, R&C looked fun but not in the mood to play a 'kids' game at that price. Forza Horizon 3 sold well (more than any other Horizon game) but get a bit bored of just driving around. BF1 is just a clone of SW:BF in essence with a WW1 skin and lacks the progression of BF4 - also has a short campaign and like I said, the rest just seem to be remasters anyway.
There are just too many games, last month I bought battlefield 1, titanfall 2, resident evil 4 ps4, world of final fantasy, and rise of tomb raider. I still want to buy the last guardian and ff xv if the reviews is good, and watchdog 2 + dragon quest builder seems good. I mean, who has the time/money to play/buy it all?
That's why I like sony way of releasing big game (uncharted 4, bloodborne, infamous) in the beginning of the year rather than in the fall, why release all the games on fall when in the beginning of the year you can have all the spotlight.
@get2sammyb This is an argument I often used to explain why no game was taking World of Warcraft's place, but there was a bit more to it than people being content. The reason for it was basically that other MMOs tried to take a slice of WoW's playerbase by offering similar experiences, but obviously there is a time commitment to leveling up and so on, so why put that time in when you have an almost identical game you have already done the same with?
In the same way each of those games were the first to get into people's minds on PS4 and any similar game now has to have a compelling reason to pull a player away. While you can argue those games offer enough variation to keep people satisfied for a long time, each of them also carved out a niche to be top of their class. So new games could sell if they were either significantly better or were original, but too often we get games released mimicking the market leader to try to get a share of its market instead of actually evolving the genre. As with most things, if you want to sell well you have to stand out from the crowd.
@Dichotomy 'I'm guessing a lot of people are getting burnt out on playing the same games with minor alterations.'
And getting burnt out on Sequels that have changed too much (CoD and movement), Sequels that lack the content of predecessors (minimal SP) or 'clones' of another game (SW:BF and BF1) and endless remasters too.
Last generation we had games like Bioshock, Batman, Dead Space, Uncharted, Gears of War, Mass Effect, Assassins Creed, Resistance, Infamous etc all making their Debut, all going onto make and define that generation. This generation, we have very few 'new' franchises (so far) to define the generation - its mostly sequels and remasters. Destiny is probably the most successful new franchise. Horizon: ZD and Days Gone could go on to define this generation of course.
From a practical perspective, it seems like madness to release so many big games during such a short time period in The Fall with BF deals looming. The other thing that's been drilled into our collective conscience is 'don't Day One anything' due to massively broken games. Many people wait and get a better game later for half price. I would imagine that a game like Dishonored 2 will sell for at least 3 years at various price points, but game companies only care about Day One sales. I never understood that...maybe because they don't get paid in the used market.
@GBMatthew
That is what i think. Games are not optimized to be played day one. I think for a game to be enjoyable you will have to wait two three months in order to take the most out of it. And lets not talk about the imminent game of the year edition which include all dlc and is generally cheaper. Gamers do note, we cannot play all at once. If you buy day one you get the worst possible deal with the worst performance. All that said excluding the collectors edition just saying you cant wait to buy that one.
There is a lack of variety in ceratin genres and over abundance in others. if I like a game and there are 4 or 5 out in month will get them all. But then it might be 6 months before I get another game. I always pre-order games like the extras you get and often paying less for the game.
I buy day one because I want to spport the developer and get them maxiumum money for the game. I diasgree that games do not provide value in terms of performance or money on day one.Also for small games companies they cannot always afford to wait for the revenue.
Personally, I'd suggest that sales and the intense price competition flooding both the new and secondhand markets have a lot to do with this trend. More than day 1 performance issues, that's for damn sure. It's been a while since I had to buy a game at full RRP, and even as primarily a PS4 player, there are more sales and freebies than I know what to do with. I'm NEVER going to play every single game I own for the PS3, never mind the PS4.
What that boils down to is that I am very, very selective about which titles I pick up day (or even month) one. I've got FFXV and The Last Guardian pre-ordered and really that's already too much. I haven't even finished the Dark Souls 3 DLC yet and that's been my game of the year!
I've been meaning to go through and create a spreadsheet of the games I've got vs the games I've finished, I think the results would be pretty interesting.
Fatigue, sick of publishers screwing people, Sony realising 3 pieces of hardware one of which requires a new TV in a very short time frame?
It could be any one thing.
But part of me wants to say Wednesday.
Everyone is trying to make that holiday window. The result? Everyone is eating up each other's sales. Gamers don't have an infinite amount of expendable income, sometimes you have to pick & chose. Add to that the state at which video games now release, the coverage (or lack of) that these games receive & the fact that almost everyone has something to play 3 years in, which leads to this predicament.
Kudos to Sony for actually thinking. Why cannibalise your own sales by trying to launch a holiday exclusive in the busy multiplatform holiday season
@lixei32 True and we are all getting very tired of it. I think that it is fair to say that very few game developers bother with play testing or QC nowadays. They just release them and patch them later once the users have discovered and complained about bugs etc.
Honestly, I've bought alot of games this fall, but there have been many as well that made me think "Really? There releasing another one? Why?"
Gears 4 was a blast for me, but I'm a major fan of the series, so I'm a bit bias on that one; Pokemon Sun and Moon will probably satisfy me as well. I bit the bullet and purchased Skyrim Remastered as It had been years since i had played and the mods were a nice touch and I'm looking quite forward to FFXV and seeing if it was worth the wait.
However, seeing games like BF1, COD, Watch Dogs 2 come out just made me cringe. People are either tired of these games, or have been burned by them before; they aren't willing to put the money down on them simply because its beginning to feel like the sports genre, buying the yearly release with a "roster" update. Even as a personal fan of remasters; its becoming harder for me to buy them if they are just a simple performace upgrade even if I originally loved the games (AC Collection).
For me this fall, my biggest favourites have been the games that have shown something different, had that special charm and have made me want to come back for me. Dragon Quest Builders was a fun time waster for me, and once I get extra time ill be diving back into it. World of FF was an absolute hit in my opinion, making its way up into my top games spot of the year and as one of my favourite FF games. Jumping even further back, Overwatch is still managing to grab my attention long after getting the Platinum; it's these games that are doing something a bit different and have that charm factor that will be my tops of the years; not the annual souless cash ins.
All the points above are valid. EA screwed itself really, Watch_Doge 2 wasn't really asked for. Dishonoured is niche and CoD is on that decline as usual. Final Fantasy might do okay. Last Guardian is niche as all hell.
But there are /other/ factors to consider. Sony has released 3 units of hardware in a VERY short time. PS4 Pro being the costliest if you want a TV with that. On that front, it's overwhelming. Secondly, that little thing that blew up social media. The uh..../redacted/ I believe. Yeah that thing. Wont make much of an impact on the UK market as usual but it may be a factor as people wait it out.
And finally, I cannot stress this enough: Pokémon. There is no doubt in my mind that those 10 million+ shipped copies are being sold at a rate thanks to the Summer. To deny that it has had some wallet based impact as well is foolish.
Combine all these things, waiting for new things, overwhelmed by hardware, Pokémon fever, wallets are stretched thin, and we cant afford it all.
Or the market in the UK may have finally stagnated. It was heading this way, and always has been "FPS of the Year, FIFA of the Year" but this year more so.
Oh, and I mentioned Pokémon. God forbid we mention the competition and how may affect us Sony users amirite?
Final Fantasy XV is the non-nintendo game that I'm buying in months. Why would I buy a generic fps with robots? Or a generic fps in space that will get an even bigger stage next year?
I can't accept the same game every year, and For Honor is the first ubisoft game that I'm buying since Rayman Legends years ago. The same for Mass Effect Andromeda, that will be the first EA game since ME3!
That said, I think that japanese producers are coming back to the top, which to me is great.
Good. Time for these publishers to stop cranking out endless sequels that all look the same, and try being a little more original and creative. At least Ubisoft has Steep, but I don't see it performing well. Hope I'm wrong.
It's been a generation of remasters and constant delays and then when we finally do get 'new' games it's usually sequels that are more of the same. Factor in games releasing broken and requiring big day one patches and I'm not surprised sales have been down.
I'm just catching it up. (27 out of 44 comments.) and agree fatigue and time are an issue. For me it's time and price. Last 3 games I finished were the division. Beyond two souls and gravity rush. All brought I. Sale and I have 20 u played games to date. Buying digital I rarely buy day one with the exception. Of ratchet n clank n uncharted.
What puzzles me is the cry of originality yet most people are going to get ff15 over the last guardian?
I will continue to get games on sale (roll on Thursday) for one and play them as my time allows but I could also do with more new ip my lifestyle doesn't allow for the amount of games available
All the games listed at the top of this article have no appeal to me whatsoever. These days I'm just looking to play games that entertain me. I played the demo of Outlast 2 the other day and I thought "I'm just finding this too stressful and not enjoyable"!! I finished Ratchet and Clank the other day and the entire experience just made me feel like I did when playing R&C on my PS2, just bloody good fun.
For me, this generation's games that I've enjoyed are:
Elder Scrolls on-Line
Everybody's gone to the rapture
The Last of Us
Ratchet & Clank
At the moment I'm only really looking forward to The Last Guardian to be honest. If it can capture any of the joy I got from playing Ico then I'll be one happy b4stard!!
Buggy games, high launch prices that drop fairly quickly, ridiculous amounts of paid DLC/season passes, non-innovative games.
Toss that list in a blender, and there you go.
@Bliquid Oh it happens everywhere. As someone who can appreciate the good and bad points of a console/game (I'm not getting Pokémon for instance, but can see the appeal), I tend to sit back and shake my head at the animosity from all sides. Back onto my post however, I want to put out a few hypotheses regarding Wednesday.
1 - Pokémon Sun and Moon will do incredibly well, showing the impact of Go, and quite frankly surprise me given the UK history with that company.
2 - Sun and Moon will surpass FFXV, which I did mention a few months back when the delay occurred as something Square /probably/ could've done without, but we will see.
3 - Neither does well, and my belief about the UK games market is correct.
Also as a side note, it's strange that all these games in this article are Western? Could there be a paradigm shift towards more Japanese developed games?
@SegaBlueSky
Maybe we can claim we are addicted to collecting games more then finishing them.And by today standards finishing most of them mean getting new harder modes etc.
I'm still playing Dragon Age Oblivion for heaven's sake. My finished vs unfinished would be embarrasing not interesting calling myself a gamer. Not too much time to play games tough.
Seems kind of stupid there isn't a retail chart, digital chart & combined. I swapped to digital a while back for convenience. It'd be interesting to see the split now. If digital becomes a majority we might even see competitive pricing on PSN...
I did get Titanfall 2 bc of good campaign reviews, and I am enjoying it. However, none of these recent games focus much on narrative, just pure gameplay that I've seen before. And no, I will not be "pre-ordering" (people still do that?) The Last Guardian. It honestly hasn't spurred much excitement in me and it seems too similar to ICO/SotC, which were great at their own respective times for their unique atmosphere but weren't the most "fun" or "exciting" games.
I believe @johncalmc already said some points that I think fit the bill. In addition to that, it's also sales season, so nobody is going to get anything at full price if possible.
I guess this generation is also finally catching up to people. All the interesting games have been set back to next year, leaving just the AAA multiplayer games and FFXV and Last Guardian. Those two games (or FFXV at least) are probably what everyone's waiting for.
@get2sammyb There Might be something in that because I've been playing a lot of Destiny since Rise of Iron and haven't played much of the other games I've bought recently.
It's likely to be a number of factors such as the hype of Black Friday that's creeped in the last couple of years, why pay £50 now when it could be half that in just a couple of weeks. Also for me I have much less money available having recently upgraded to Pro and buying a new 4K TV to go with it and with the Xbox one s out too I suspect many others would be in the same boat. Not to mention simply replaying games with Pro enhancements.
Then there is the fact that most of the games have been delayed and aren't out yet like Horizon, Grant Turismo, South Park and Final Fantasy. Other than the latter and Dishonoured 2 nothing else really interests me this Christmas party from possible The Last Guardian.
@lixei32 Dragon Age is the perfect example - picked that up for what, £9 in a recent sale, something like that? Played the opening chapter then went on holiday and haven't touched it since.
Just off the top of my head, I know I've still got the following PS4 games either completely unplayed or yet to finish: Dragon Age Inquisition, Dark Souls 3 DLC, Infamous First Light, Outlast, SOMA, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Tearaway, Evil Within, Killzone, Hyperlight Drifter, Furi...and the list goes on even further than that. I can't keep up. Going to try my best not to buy anymore games after FFXV and The Last Guardian until I clear the backlog, but I know I'm going to cave and get something else as well. Then there's PSVR which I'm desperate to try out. Don't get me wrong it's a nice problem to have, but yeesh.
while titanfall 2 may have been released between BF1 and CoD, it sold only 13000 copies on PS4 (and 18000 on XB1) - that's not even 1/4 of the original titanfall got on a much smaller install base. (it's about 1/8 of the original on XB1). CoD lost 200+ sales since black ops3, and they didn't move to TF2, and BF1 didn't pick up most of them either.
black ops 3 is the biggest selling CoD game on any individual playstation platform - and across all platforms it was up compared to Advanced Warfare (though that may have suffered from being a 'new sub-title' and the fact that ghosts before it was pretty rubbish). black ops 3 may have been hugely successful based on its brand recognition. with IW, the far future/space sitting didn't resonate with people, and infinity ward's recent history, may have put people off. without the CoD4:MWR incentive, it may have done even worse.
fatigue might be something to do with it - almost all of these titles are sequels, is there actually any major new IP releasing during the last quarter? i didn't get BF1, even though i bought BF4. didn't like the beta, and the WW1 setting doesn't appeal to me. i did buy TF2, though i'm done with it already. i didn't buy the original watch dogs, and that actually looked better than WD2 from what i've seen. the main characters seem so far removed from my experience.. it's trying too hard to be part of the hipster crowd, they just across as a bunch of pillocks. why couldn't it be more like mr robot with neuroses and other interesting character flaws. but maybe i'm just a jaded late-30s cynic.
also, people maybe be playing what they have bought for much longer than before. an 6-8 hour campaign is a tough sell these days, no matter how good it is, especially when you get hundreds and hundreds of hours out of an RPG, or a multiplayer game.
fwiw, i wouldn't expect FF XV to do great numbers either..
Honestly I can't remember a holiday season with this many titles all coming out within such a narrow frame. I mean titan fall 2 and battlefield 1 and the ultimate edition of star wars battlefront all came out within 6 weeks all from EA alone. People gotta pick and choose and there's a lot to pick from.
My guess: it comes down to fatigue and focusing on a special kind of game. You got Overwatch? You'll spend most likely all of your time there and won't bother with BF1 or CoD or Titanfall2.
On top of that, all of the above games require serious commitment to get satisfactory results. 3 shooters in a row? Who thought it will work out well? Watch Dogs2 though seems not very appealing but maybe thats just me.
We need more diversity! My GOTY: Thumper VR
(Also, that fatigue shows in people buying nes classic mini like hot prezels)
I have a backlog of games already and the only games I intend to buy full price for is Persona 5 and possibly FF15.
Still haven't bought Rise of The Tomb Raider or MGS5 so the rest will wait behind that.
Unless you are desperate for immediate online play then you can wait for better deals.
I also wonder if the success of Overwatch and Destiny has damaged sales of the other FPS games. YouTube seems to be in love with Overwatch especially.
Since this is all based on UK Sales charts shouldn't we just blame Brexit? Isn't that the excuse du juor?
Seriously though, is this a worldwide issue or just a UK issue? UK can't make up that big a part of the worlds videogame markets to be worries about. Nobody worries about Xbox One game sales in Japan.
I don't know, except FFXV (which I have preordered) I have no interest in the games mentioned in the article nor I played any of their prequels (except an old COD). In fact (excluding Vita rpg games) the only games I have bought recently are Rise of the Tomb Raider, World of Final Fantasy and Blazblue CF. And those (with FFVX and Vita) are all that my money and time can afford. So I am not the target audience of those games. I wonder how many like me exist.
Even if I liked those games I would probably invest on a Pro first since I don't want to play games that underperform. In fact if I had the money I would get the Pro since I don't want to play the inferior version of FFVX.
Well I bought Watch Dogs 2 on day one, but the other games I'm waiting for the Black Friday sales to pick up games for me, and other ppl for Christmas, so that is obviously a huge factor to consider.
Black Friday wasn't a big thing in Canada until a couple years ago, it was always boxing day sales, but now that black friday is bigger here, I've gotten use to waiting to pick up the big fall games, and so have most ppl I know.
@rjejr While this definitely focuses on the situation in the UK, it is being reflected globally. Titanfall 2 did very poorly in the US, for example, and it's hard to imagine Watch Dogs 2 bettering its predecessor given how badly it's done in Britain.
While the situation may be at its worst in the UK, we can probably infer that this is a global issue. I did mention software being up year-over-year in the US, however,
I usually use my teenage cousins as barometers for this kind of stuff. Mostly they care about Skyrim and FF15 this year. I think Watch Dogs took too much of a hammering to stay relevant. Titanfall shot itself in the foot by launching as an Xbox exclusive when PS4 was the much more popular console, and people have been burning out on COD for a while.
Simple saying don't bite the hand that feed's you.
Apart from overload in games. What we get from big studios is greed,deception & more greed.
evidence
Ubisoft trying bleed everyone dry with DLC on every title
Bethesda no advance review copy's. Fallout 4 season pass grab it quick as
we are raising the price due to fact we have soooooooooo much extra. (I keep looking for it but cant find it. Help please).
Ea micro transaction empire.
Plus so many indie games are publishing better games at a 1/4 of the price.
Digital might be on rise (I prefer but only on sale) in uk I can pre order on amazon usually at least £10 cheaper than on psn
@get2sammyb "I did mention software being up year-over-year in the US, however,"
Well there ya go.
Personally I'm not impressed by the line-up.
Ttianfall wasn't on PS4, Sony fans will cut off their noses to spite their faces.
W_D was so blah, nobody needed a sequel for another 3 years, if ever.
I don't know what Dishonoured is, so I can't imagine its' that big. And not b/c I don't play it, I don't play CoD, WoW, Madden or Destiny, but I know all of those.
BF1 ate CoD's lunch.
TLG won't do well either being a PS4 exclusive and releasing a week after FFXV. FFXV will do well enough. And if it doesnt it's Squenix fault for the delay, DLC, and season pass for a single player off line game.
The industry needed a kick in the behind, this may be that moment. Not this article, this holiday, it sucks.
um, so yeah, just read the article, nice work.
I reckon fatigue and a very crowded release period are part of the problem. Talking about the UK specifically, perhaps the drop in household income for many people coupled with large increases in the cost of living are also to blame. Many people can only afford to pick up one or two games - especially now that the average price of games has actually increased. Add to that the games people are buying, they are are happier to play for longer periods.
In terms of my own buying habits I have been getting less in recent years but that is down to not wanting to buy too many things I know will just stay wrapped on a shelf for months if not years. Now I just buy things I really want and have a good chance of enjoying. My backlog still has last gen and even PS2 and Gamecube games. I do think that many releases recently have been less interesting as the industry has got more risk averse. My game of the year so far is Dragon Quest Builders, which has been an absolute delight and the only games I plan to get for the rest of the year are Pokemon Moon and Final Fantasy XV, as well as asking for a few for Christmas.
There are too many games on market which you can choose. I have ton of games in my backlog. I'm now stuck in battle zone and killing floor 2.....I think only games I will buy are great sports and horizon and I'm done
Fall???
like some others have mentioned, i am also guilty of having built a backlog of games that i haven't finished or played very much, or in some cases haven't even started. year one of destiny was responsible for a fair bit of that.. either sequels didn't interest me as much as previous entries, or whatever it was wasn't as much fun as destiny in that first year. i've also tried to not buy stuff i know realistically i won't play til completion.
i can't really think of a franchise that's significantly improved this generation to be honest. sure, they look much better, but that's not really enough. so that could be part of the problem for me personally. killzone, infamous (i got bored with second son, and only finished about 20% of it, despite really liking the first two on PS3) arkham knight, battlefield, call of duty, assassins creed.. none have matched their predecesors on the last gen imo. we're about to start the 4th year of the current gen, and have yet to see one significant new IP to emerge, really, never mind several. the division, i suppose might count. destiny and watch dogs are cross-generational children. sony's had a few bites at the cherry with varying degrees of critical and commercial success (the order 1886, bloodborne, until dawn..). but it's to hard to see where the new series/franchises that will define this generation will come from. even if horizon and days gone are critical/commercial successes, we'll probably not see sequels before PS5 comes along such is the aeons that dev cycles last these days. i find that i'm becoming less sympathetic towards the game industry as time goes by.
ratchet & clank is the only franchise i can think of that is markedly improved on PS4. that was a great game. one of the best of the year.. such a shame it didn't sell all that well in the US.
FF15 and TLG are here to save Christmas, worry not.
@get2sammyb Sammy your comment here is bang on. If you have overwatch, destiny and rocket league how the hell would you have time for anything else? I too have bought less games than at any point over the last 20 years but there's a solution.
As I think this is a missed point, we all have backlogs. Every one of us, games are too bloated, some never end. We are all at the point were a 'new' game just gets plonked on the backlog pile and for £50 with 50% depreciation within 6 weeks its nonsense. Developers need to start cutting out the crud so we can move on quicker, Give us quicker to complete trophy lists (like last gen) and quicker levelling and unlocks in single player games.
Pretty sure we still call it Autumn in Blighty....
Just saying.
Maybe there are just too many games coming out in a short space of time, I can't be alone in having a pretty sizeable backlog.
@Bliquid agree 100% I have 2 gaming monitors on my desk a ps4/xbox one & pc hooked up. then add in tablet mobile phone. I think days of one game machine are long gone. Will be interesting to see how nintendo fill the gap of the 2ds when the switch comes out.
Me personally is because of e3 2016. I watched that and I have to say every game just jumped out at me and like one fella said earlier in the comments nothing has really jumped out at me this yr apart from rise of the tomb raider and bf1 so I'm saving my cash for the immense looking games that come out next yr. Every single exclusive they advertised, I will be getting on day one. So nxt yr will cost a good amount of cash. Plus ps pro and a 4k TV. All costs.
I don't think Titanfall 2 deserved to flop like it did, for one, that seems a very fun (although I haven't played it so I can't make an ultimate judgement on that) and it was a little stuck in between Battlefield 1 and Infinite Warfare, and so was a little forgotten. In terms of the others, I honestly think they look boring, and done before, and so forgettable, and nothing special, like maybe they would have been a few years ago. Horizon, Breath of the Wild and The Last Guardian look like more refreshing hits though.
Sad thing is, the games industry revolves around the money, so they will stick to the formula that has given them the most success and profit in the last few years, so not a lot of game developers will be brave enough to step out of the box and make something different to take that risk to refresh the business. I think it's just a case now that we've all been playing games like Call of Duty (shooter) and Watch Dogs (open-worlder) for years now, and they don't appear as excited as they once did, so at least some of them are bound to be flops for that reason.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-11-21-titanfall-2-price-slashed-to-just-20-at-hmv
if that is true then ouch. Lets face it your going sit on fence for watchdogs 2
FF 15 will not flop...but I think it will disapoint some people, including me!
Let's see!
I can't speak for the market, but what happened to me was I had a daughter a year ago. 15 to 20 hours of guaranteed gaming a week dropped to practically zero for a long time. Now, I'd love to be playing Watch Dogs 2 (i really liked the first one), but I'm still playing Uncharted 4, Batman Arkham Knight, Eagle Flight on PSVR and I just bought Gravity Rush Remastered in the recent sale as I enjoyed it on the Vita.
There's just too many games, not enough time, and certainly not enough cash to buy everything I'd like to play.
It's the same stuff year in year out. Even I skipped out on all these games until I could get them for $25 or less, and I literally preorder everything.
This is why people buy multiple consoles. You just get sick of buying and playing the same old same old. And though there are a few games that are different enough to break that mold, they're usually not that good. The Last Guardian has lost almost all its hype due to a number of concerns brought forward by those who demo'd it.
Horizon Zero Dawn and Gravity Rush 2 is what PS4 needs. MS needs to hurry up and get Scalebound and Halo Wars 2 out (even though Gears 4 was amazing), and Nintendo needs to get that new Zelda and 3D Mario out with the Switch.
These are the games that are going to excite people again. Gears 4 was great, and Pokémon Sun/Moon was great (it'll be far better on Switch though in HD, finally a Pokémon for a home console!), and PSVR was cool for the post-launch week or so, but by and large we're just seeing the same stuff we see every year. It's a wonder people haven't burned out sooner
professorhat said:
I can't speak for the market, but what happened to me was I had a daughter a year ago. 15 to 20 hours of guaranteed gaming a week dropped to practically zero for a long time.
I have 1 1/2 & a 3 1/2 I only sleep 5 hours a day & still struggle for time, Luckily my 3 1/2 girl likes skylanders so I can play something at least.
also ps4/xbox one lack of younger age group games. & controllers my little girl struggles with the ps4 controller. I splashed out on xbox one elite in black friday sale I love elite controller but its a bloody heavy beast.
For me, very rare that I pay $60 for a new game. Very very rare! First of all there's only so much time in the day with working full time and raising a family and other stuff. So games like dishonored 2 and many others I have no choice but to wait till they go for $20 then buy em in the hopes that one day I'll have time to play them. The last game I paid $60 for was battlefield 1. Before that was probably 2015 and was probably GTA 5!
Data from the latest NPD report suggests this trend isn't just isolated to the UK: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1318544
I know for me, it is the FPS genre that I am not a big fan of. So when that is a majority of what is put out in a row, I tend to not buy a lot, plus I have so many games to play and finish that it is hard to keep up with how fast they produce them now.
So many first person shooters are out that it's easy for people to feel fatigue. I'm probably going to get Titanfall 2 due to its big price drop. Maybe I'll get Battlefield 1 sometime next year when it drops in price. No interest in Infinite Warfare, though.
As for other games, I'm skeptical on a lot of releases such as Watch Dogs 2. For the most part there haven't been too many great games this year outside of Uncharted 4.
My reasoning for not getting watchdogs 2 is because I've played watchdogs! Same reason I'll never go anywhere near the division 2.
I almost never buy games at launch anymore. What's the point, when I can get a GOTY edition for a cheaper price? Sure, I have to wait longer, but there are plenty of other games to occupy my time.
I pretty much only purchase launch-day titles if there's a neat limited edition (usually Nintendo-related), or if it's a game I simply can't wait to play (FFXV).
IMO, publishers only have themselves to blame. Perhaps audiences are finally beginning to wise-up a little.
All the games you mention are sequels. Mostly full of large males shooting or stabbing each other to death. Perhaps people would prefer to see something new and a little bit different?
I agree with all the sentiment before, particularly regarding release windows, quality of the games etc.
I would say though, and it seems the comments suggest this, is that we just aren't getting excited by these big name franchises. I think this has been coming for some time now - Assasins Creed taking a break (by releasing five games in a year), COD sales declining. Even when you have gems being released (TF2, Dishonoured 2) they are being released in hectic release windows and get drowned out by the noise.
Why pay upwards of £50 for a brand new game when you know the formula and the gameplay, it might be broken, there are few early reviews and you just know it will be down to £30 in a month or so?
People are looking for games to make some sort of connection. If you look at games that performed or exceeded expectations this last year, you are really looking at things that felt original (No Man's Sky, The Witness etc.) or games that had an emotional attachment (UC4, Ratchet and Clank, Doom, Fallout).
I also think that Multiplayer fans are not as keen to leap on new franchises when existing ones do keep on giving. Destiny, Overwatch etc. Elder Scrolls Online - why buy new when you can get a good game and progression elsewhere?
Ok. essay over - people want new gaming experiences, not the same old and MP's just arent the USP they used to be.
I've seen a few people bringing this up, and I'm inclined to agree about the backlogs/wealth of games available today. Years ago it was easy to play everything you want to play. Now there's interesting games released all the time. My backlog is enormous, and I still haven't picked up games I want - like Rise of the Tomb Raider and Deus Ex - because I'm working through a ridiculous pile of games I haven't finished. There's so much out there, and where a game like Titanfall 2 might have appealed to me years ago, today I'm just trying to finish what I've already got before Final Fantasy XV drops in my lap.
Definitely genre fatigue, none of the games mentioned have any interest to me, theres only so many times you can run about shooting things in a FPS before you get bored with it.
The best games (and the most fun ive had playing) this year have been with Tomb Raider, Uncharted 4 & Ratchet & Clank, im looking forward to Final Fintasy FFXV but will see how the general reaction is before deciding to purchase at full price or wait..
The games Im looking forward to most next year so far are Sonic Mania and Yooka Laylee, maybe Mass Effect, just good fun, refreshing games that offer something different. I am fed up to the back teeth of FPS Shooters, same thing over and over and over and over.
Plus its been a very expensive year, PS4 Pro, VR, Slim, contrary to what companies think, people are not made of money especially this time of year. I invested in a PS4 Pro which isnt being utilised to its full capabilites due to my full 4k, HDR capable LG TV not being picked up by the blooming console, so thats tee'd me off a little, As im sure it has a lot of people.
@Anguspuss @professorhat Kids man, if only you'd stayed playing Playstation for ten minutes longer than going up to bed early that night......
@gmxs Sonic Mania and Yooka Laylee.
Yes great shout! I cant wait for them either. Add persona 5 and you have the holy trinity.
@johncalmc today I'm just trying to finish what I've already got before Final Fantasy XV drops in my lap.
That's exactly right, I used to pick up 10,11 or 12 AAA games year - but that's reduced to 3 or 4 of the biggest releases with a bunch of smaller usually indie games and psplus for the remainder of my library. So like you I'm looking forward to ff15 which also means alot of games I would usually pick up like WD2, Steep, TLG etc are still sat on the shelves. Its not due to price, its all down to time.
@KingofSaiyanZ I agree to that ☺
It's called "Autumn" in the UK.
For me, it's the sales that are doing it. With a few notable exceptions, I no longer buy games on day one for full price. If I wait a few months, not only does the price come down, but the game gets patched and runs better. Couple this with the fact that I can scoop up hundreds of dollars of games for a fraction of the price if I just wait for certain ones to go on sale, and I think we have a clear reason for this trend. I have more than enough games to occupy my time right now, and by the time I'm through with those, the current crop of games will all be cheaper/better. Why buy them now?
@kyleforrester87 THIS. Finally 2 games I care about!
Pokemon will sell well of course, but I am not even slightly interested and my 3DS cart slot is still busy with Fire Emblem Fates anyway.
I could not afford to buy all of those games at launch, even if I was a fan. For someone like me, all of those games look like the same genre. Yes, I know they're different, but their core mechanic and marketing are all very similar.If I was a fan, I would have chosen one. Maybe. With frequent sequels always in the works, it pays to wait even 3-6 months. My point is, all these "blockbusters" are only hitting one segment of the market. I actually feel like I'm in a bit of a gaming drought right now.
There has never been a better time in the history of gaming to stay clear of new releases.
@BLP_Software Pokemon is doing super well but it seems it's not outselling X/Y and I didn't foresee this at all, considering the Pokemon Go effect. Still close to 2 millions in 4 days!
Simples. Too many FPS'. In fact too many games in the same window. New hardware (I've splashed out on VR and Pro myself). Titan Fall burned PS with the first one (over hyped too), some PS users remember these things. Watch Dogs 1 was a disappointment (over hyped and did better than it should've). Tomb Raider burned PS users last year. Investment in PSVR games.
Id wager some poor marketing decisions probably had an impact on some of those mentioned.
EA releasing Titanfall immediately after Battlefield as has been mentioned likely didnt help.
Activisions decision not to allow Modern Warfare to be sold seperately then hiking the price up absurdly for access, add to that the idea that they didnt exactly listen to player feedback.
Watch Dogs had a varied response on launch because apparantly it not looking like it did in trailers and early gameplay changes how good a game is, coupled with The Division doing the same, and thus likely affected peoples perception of Ubisoft as a rule.
Reasons for reduced sales:
Digital sales
Gamers are older and have less time to play
Less time to play means bigger backlogs and less sales
Gamers wait for a game to be reduced in price or patched before buying
Some games are huge and take a long time to finish
Some games are services and continue to take up gamers time
The sheer volume of games available
@RainbowGazelle sammy is english, so he's just got no excuse for calling it 'fall'. a few hundred years ago, the season was referred to as harvest, similar to the dutch word (herfst) and german (herbst) which are still used today. it was displaced by autumn, probably from french via latin (autumnus). it has never been referred to as fall on this side of the pond.
saying there are too many games releasing in the same windows is denial that something else is going on. for at least the last decade oct/nov has been jam-packed with big releases and big franchises, this year is nothing particularly unique about that. even if there are 3 FPS, week 1 sales of BF1 + TF2 + CoD is still less than just black ops 3 last year. digital definitely won't be a particularly big factor in the decline (rocket league outsold titanfall on psn last month!).
each of these games has different problems, as a result a various industry decisions. WD2 may be paying for the legacy of the first one.. and FF XV will probably do the same if XIII is anything to go by. the problem is then where do publishers go from here, if sequel/safe bets aren't catching the public interest anymore. it's hard to change course that quickly in AAA game development. are people really more keen for new and fresh IP? will be interesting to see if sales reflect that. i don't expect the last guardian to sell at all well, though sony apparently have very modest expectations for it anyway.
Maybe if the developers made the 1st game in the series (watch dog 1, titanfall 1, etc) then maybe gamer's would have enjoyed looking into the 2nd games. For shame on these dev's, feel our wrath!
Fall = Autumn right? I wouldn't expect The Last Guardian to excell either, look's average at best and certainly not on my must buy list. FFXV I think will do well but not nearly as well as they hope, they've lost money on that game and they deserve to with the pathetic advertising campaign that's been going on. Maybe they need to casualise stuff into the ground even more??? Try and get a few more facebook gamer's onboard (sarcasm).
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