Yes, Destiny 2 Is 30fps on PS4, PS4 Pro

It is a bit disappointing, not gonna lie. It's now the only console shooter (of significance) running at 30, in 2017 that's not good enough. However, if someone can make a 30fps shooter feel as good as possible, it's Bungie. Still though, I would've like the option on Pro/Scorpio to be able to choose between 1080/60 and 2160/30 (which they are supporting).

EDIT: I meant they are supporting the latter (4K), not the element of choice. I can see it could be interpreted otherwise

As a consolation, you are getting 4K/30fps, something that will be hard for any PC under $1000 to accomplish. I had zero problems with Destiny at 30fps, and i was actually decent at it, but the chance to play at 144fps is something I can't pass up. I think consoles, especially PS4, will receive better support than PC overall, so that's also a welcome trade off.

@RedMageLanakyn I know, I'm not really that salty, I'll stick with the Pro. I can't play shooters on M+K and if I stick a controller on PC to play Crucible, well... might as well jump off a cliff Plus I agree, Destiny feels great anyway, but personally I don't care that much about resolution. Every game that has had a performance vs resolution option, I always choose framerate. That's the option I wish was there. Still excited for it though, pre ordered and cannot wait!

60FPS IS BETTER.On a PC (and probably Scorpio ) Graphics vs fps will be customizable.

It played well enough in 30fps, so it's not a huge deal... but with those visuals, 60fps would make more sense.

It may be smooth but in a shooter u can tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps

Not a deal breaker for me (no new class's though!) I don't really care, 60 would be nice though, and you can tell the difference in a FPS. I don't know how game's work but couldn't they just make the PvP 60 frame's and the PvE 30?

No surprises!! even if the Pro could do 1080/60, they probably wouldn't allow it because the base model runs at 30fps. Destiny was very consistent and felt very smooth and polished so no reason to expect this to be different...

@DrClayman Destiny was an anomaly for me, as I tend to be pretty garbage with a controller in FPS games. Something about Destiny's gunplay and combat flow really clicked with me. I have a feeling once I make the jump to Destiny 2 on PC, that won't be the case. I'm decent with mouse and keyboard, but there are some people out there that can do terrifying things at 10,000 dpi. My rig should be able to hit 1440 at 120fps, but yeah, I'll prioritize frames and drop resolution at the first sign of trouble.

@get2sammyb that's a good point. I still feel like they could run PvP at 60 on both (especially now that it's 4v4) and PvE 60 on Pro and 30 on base. But yeah, it's not a deal breaker anyway.

Such level headed responses here. Refreshing to see!

@NorrinRadd I was just thinking the same thing.

Quite proud of you all...

Bungie's shooters have always been 30FPS (nobody complained when it was Halo) and they have always been fantastic when it comes to the gunplay. I would have liked it but it is what it is. I'll still be buying it.

Not a big deal, 60fps on shooters is nice & does make a difference obviously but far from a deal breaker when it comes to Destiny. Where 60fps really matters is in games like SFV/injustice 2 etc or DMC, i think next generation 60fps will be the minimum frame-rate.

With the game being first and foremost standard PS4 and Xbox one this is hardly surprising. There's a lot more going on in the background then the likes of COD or Battlefield and whilst I suspect that it'd be possible for the pvp mode, it'd likely be quite jarring switching between the 2.

In all honesty it wasn't something that bothered me on the original, so it's not an issue for me now

Not that fussed, I'll be picking up a pro in time for D2, it isn't always smooth at the moment but hopefully a pro will help that.

@Neolit People went nuts over Battlefield One on PS4 Pro having a rock solid 60fps over PS4 unstable frame-rate at launch on Digital Foundry, never mind PS4 30fps Vs Pro 60fps if it did happen.

@NorrinRadd @ShogunRok yes but earlier from the dude that went on a rampage against walrusbawz lol

I agree a solid 30 is just fine!

@DrClayman PvE is still online and everything is playable in co-op. If they did 60fps, you would have clans and LFG groups specifying that people have to have 'Pro's ' to play - much the same as some specify certain weapons. Of course it may not matter too much when playing Solo but much of Destiny is also in communal areas so is not like Uncharted 4 which has a 60fps and a 30fps campaign...

IMO FPS matters more on pc anyway. Yes it's nice to have 60fps but honestly it's not like you can react as fast on a controller anyway. Mouse and keyboard will always have an advantage over controllers in that area but that's why 60fps is more important for pc players. Destiny ran fine the way it is, so the fact that destiny 2 is 30fps too doesn't bother me. It looks great and as long as it's smooth I'll be happy. I might have a go at the pc beta just to see if the frame rate difference feels noticeable, but I think it's more of a niggle than anything.

Battlefield 1 on old ps4 can be played with 60 fps and 64 player, that game graphics is way better than destiny 2, bungie is just lazy or incompetent.

@get2sammyb
Which makes the Pro entirely pointless but to stay on topic, this should be a non-story. It's 2017, PS4 and Xbox One have both been massive disappointments in the performance category (it's a not a deal breaker for me, but I do prefer 60 fps gaming, especially in genres like shooters, racers and fighting) since the generation started in 2013. The only surprising part is people are still surprised.

Am I disappointed? yes! Will it stop me buying the game? No! They should at least have the option for 1080p 60fps for standard PS4 and Pro users! I use the pro but still play at 1080p as I prefer to use a PC monitor for gaming rather than my 4K TV. Until they have good monitors with HDR then I don't see my choice changing anytime soon.

My point was - i want to see a push for devs to offer higher framerates or better graphics as an option.Its not unprecedented,and i think a lot of games this would be possible.Though for example,Always online,pvp ect its get a little tricky obviously.

As long as the frame pacing is consistent it should not be an issue, just like the first one. Makes one wonder though, the environment doesn't change, the lighting looks ok, so is it the alpha effects that's eating the GPU horsepower?

A litttle disapointing but its understandable destny 1 did feel really smooth though

@RedMageLanakyn hi, i think u have some misinformation a 1000$ PC can hit 4k/60fps but if we are talking 4k/30fps then even a 500$ pc can run it easily with even higher graphical settings than console

@molotovman Nope, I'm fairly well versed in PC hardware, and what you're saying is wrong. A GTX 1080Ti costs $700 alone, and can only hit 4k/60fps in a handful of games with settings turned down, when paired with high powered CPU. A $500 PC can easily do 1080/60, but not much more. I don't know where you're getting your information, but it's dead wrong. Unless you're referring to like, indie games and things like minecraft, but a game like destiny or battlefield? Nope.

@SKC_Diamond You're spot on there!! Destiny was super smooth to play and the only real issue with game play was the god awful net code and p2p nonsense. I'm more disappointed by the lack of dedicated servers than anything else but apparently they have worked a new style of net code so fingers crossed it does the job.

There really should've been an option to choose 4k or 6fps or a hybrid approach ala Nioh. I'm really getting pretty sick of developers not giving people the option to choose how they want to play their games.

@get2sammyb I agree. The main issue I have is that Bungie should be more honest about it. Just saying the PS4 PRO isn't powerful enough is a cop out in my eyes. We all know that if they really wanted to have D2 running at 60fps then they could, Even on OG PS4. The reality is that their engine probably doesn't scale very well, So they would have had to make more sacrifices than they were comfortable with, Which is fine IMO. The amount of Xbox players that are thinking the scorpio is going to get 60fps though is just laughable. Even if Sony didn't have exclusivity with D2 it still wouldn't happen. I will eat my DS4 with some red sauce if I am proven wrong :'-)

@wiiware Yes but battlefield isn't a locked 60 though. I would rather have stable 30 than unstable 60. I still remember when DRIVECLUB was announced to be 30 fps and every one was saying how it is a poor choice, but to me that game plays super smooth. Some developers have a knack for implementing techniques to make games more responsive than they should be. I mean it says it all when both streamers and games journalists play D2 for an hour and are not sure if it runs at 30 or 60. That is a compliment to Bungie.

@starman292 It will feel noticeable, But only for the first couple of minutes. I play The Division on both PC and PS4. When I have been playing on PC and then switch to PS4, It feels like it is in slow motion for the first few minutes but then you start to adjust. I will probably end up getting D2 on both PC and PS4 as I have friends on both. I just wish Bungie would have implemented some kind of cross platform save.

@shortmaneighty2
Yeah it will feel noticeable for those who own both versions. But for those who just have a ps4 they really won't be affected. Cross platform would have been great, I really wish they could have made ps4 v Xbox. I suppose co-op would be fine with pc players just not PvP.

@RedMageLanakyn you may be "Well versed" with all the YouTube videos you have watched, But the only games a 1080ti wouldn't play are unoptimised ones. I can get my strix 1070 to run games like gta5 and FH3 at 4K 60 by tweaking a few settings. 500-600 PC would do great. My PC was 1000 and like I said it plays 4K great. I just reduce shadows/ AA/ Texture Quality to high which is still Very pretty. I will try and upload some videos of GTA 5 running 4K:60 with a lot of settings on ultra.

@starman292 Yeah for sure. Like I said Destiny has always had rock solid fps and frame pacing even since the Beta so it isn't like console is going to be hobbled. I must admit though I am curious to play it at 60 as I think it will probably feel like a different game. PS4 Is where I will mostly be playing though as that is where most of my friends are.

@shortmaneighty2 First off, my knowledge comes from years of experience in benchmarking and hardware testing, not youtube videos. I have a 1080 and I can name several games that won't run a solid 4K/60, even with settings dialed down. You happened to cherry pick two of the best optimized games as your example, you had to turn things down, and i can guarantee you're not getting a solid 60. If you think for one minute Activision will have Destiny running as well as FH3 or GTAV, i'd strongly recommend looking at their past few games on PC, they run like garbage on all hardware. A $500 PC will barely be able to keep pace with consoles.