Industry Is Better When Nintendo Is Strong, Says Sony

As much as I love Sony & the PlayStation brand , Sony getting pushed to do better is always a good thing . They got cocky and complacent after the PS2 and paid for it during the PS3 era . Although they had a big comeback towards the later years of last generation. This generation has all been PS4 and it's awesome . Crazy to see how far MS has fallen considering they were destroying the competition with the 360.

Well I'm happy when Nintendo is strong. We get some genuinely fun games.

Also, he's not wrong about the XboneX.

Strong nintendo is a great thing, mainly because nintendo pushes the market in a different direction. I brought the switch for portable gaming. Ps vita been great. But it good to much more powerful portable system for 2017.

I love Nintendo games. Their first priority has always been "fun" and "satisfying".

Definitely going to be a hard sell i hope microsoft is successful

Yeah, I just don't see the X doing well with Sony already selling a 4K capable machine for $100 less.

The Switch is doing really well so far. The hybrid idea was genius.

I agree with him about Nintendo. Learned a long time ago not to predict how new hardware will do, however. I wouldn't be surprised if X1X struggles but likewise wouldn't be shocked if it's a huge hit.

@oatmealwarrior92 That's the thing, though — they didn't destroy the competition. PS3 caught up big time after the 360 had the lead for just a couple years. Basically M-soft got lucky because the PS3 was too expensive; it's been all Sony since 1995, other than that bump in the road for a couple years (and Nintendo filling in the family friendly gap with Wii and portables).

@oatmealwarrior92 I totally agree. The 360 was THE thing in the last gen. Ps3 was great too, but both consoles succeded in constructing their own identity. I ended up myself acquiring both (and they're still plugged under my Tv). But now ? It's all about the PS4.
I was really expecting an awesome E3 for Microsoft with the Scorpio. I was like : "Come on, guys, sell me this thing !!" and Forza began to do that for me... But then there was nothing. I really don't see how someone could want to buy an Xbox right now, except if you already own a Ps4.

Only 1 out of 5 is a Pro. So gamers are not really wanting a more powerfull console yet. It's not that the Pro is that expensive. I am getting mine next week including Horizon Dawn for only €175 when I change it for my PS4.

Not sure if MS is expecting to sell XBox X's in a huge amount. MS allways said that it will be a premium console for premium gamers. I will buy it anyway for FM7.

@oatmealwarrior92 By the end of the 'generation' PS3 and XB360 were virtually inseparable in terms of sales. MS had a big lead at the start - helped by launching earlier and the fact the PS3 was a lot more expensive than the 360 - more expensive than the XBX too.

I certainly agree that MS could struggle with the XBX. People will see that £100 difference and the line-up of Exclusives that Sony has and think the Sony does the 'same' thing for the money but better games. They won't see (or understand) what difference that more powerful GPU can bring - its literally like a whole PS4 more powerful. They won't understand what difference that 9GB of RAM for gaming that has 50% more bandwidth means either. Whether they care about the 4k HDR Bluray on top, along with Atmos who knows - maybe they will look at the price it costs to buy a Pro and a separate 4k HDR bluray player, and the fact its more powerful and buy the XBX. Maybe when DF start to show what difference that power makes, maybe they will buy the XBX. However, even if DF do this, chances are that the 'average' gamer, won't watch it anyway...

I really don't think though, that the difference between Sony and MS in sales will be affected at all though - not only is that gap far too significant, but Sony also have an incredible line-up of exclusives. And as far as HD gaming goes, the PS4 is stronger than the XB1s...

I wouldn't be surprised that, even if the XBX outsells the Pro on a monthly basis, sales of the Base models will be heavily in favour of Sony. If anything, its this that I think will keep the gap.

You can buy a pro, x1x and switch for £1080 rrp not including deals.

That's hardly anything really is it? Someone on minimum wage who throws in some overtime can have all 3 in a month.

Premium consoles for cheap prices.

Competition is always good for the consumers. I own a PS4 and a Switch, and though I doubt I'll ever dabble into Microsoft land, I'm hoping the XOX won't bomb.

Denying cross-play, having a lot of rumours and pieces point out to a backhanded deal with Capcom to snatch MH, and yet they're throwing this out there? Well excuse my long white beard that I don't take that seriously.

Now we know why it took Microsoft all this time to announce xbox 1 x.

They bring nothing new to the table Nintendo however have.

It's all good down the Sony lane.

@themcnoisy Still living in your mom's basement?

Some of has have to pay for food, mortgage, car, clothes, life insurance, taxes, home insurance, car insurance, water, electricity, wife, kids, furniture, college loans, cell phone, internet, etc.

@Number09 It's true. Microsoft don't even have Kinect to brag about anymore. They're too boring.

@get2sammyb "that's considerably more expensive"

But Pro isn't normally considerably more expensive is it? $299 vs. $399, that's only $100 which besides the Pro specs gets you an extra 500GB of HDD space, 1TB vs. 500GB. It's only 25% more. And Sony spent all that time explaining what it does, for both 1080p and 4k TV owners. If Pro sold 1/3 33% instead of 1/5 20% well that wouldn't be much, but it would be something. As it is really makes me wonder why they even bothered with all the R&D and marketing, what's the ROI with so few sales? Maybe they could have sold more PSVR for $399 if those few people weren't looking at the Pro.

But your comment " that's considerably more expensive " does fit right in with my XXX thoughts. If Pro is only 25% more, $100, and selling only 1/5, how will 100% more, $250, affect XXX sales? You can literally buy 2 new model X1S, with a 4k disc player, for the price of the XXX.

So if Pro is considerably more expensive for an extra $100, how would you describe the jump in price for the XXX? Astronomically out of this world insanely more expensive. And what ratio would you expect, 1/7, 1/10. I'm really not sure why they bothered, they're ROI won't be good. Should have sold X1S for another year, saved this for Xbox X, no One, next year. There will be zero games that take advantage of all of that power if they all need to work on the original One.

@themcnoisy
Yeah if you don't have any bills lmao

@starman292 So what are you saying? That £1080 is loads? It's not for 3 boss consoles. I remember spending £1700 on a PC in 2001 as an example.

@sketchturner how much did you pay for your wife?

While I don't care for most of Nintendo's flagship franchises (Mario, Zelda, Metroid), I can't deny the amazing contribution of Nintendo throughout gaming history.

Stay cool, Nintendo. I'm not supporting you with my wallet, but I respect you and wish you all the best.

Not a Nintendo fan but a strong Nintendo is always a good thing.
Because Nintendo generally pushes things forward.
And if they don't do that, they can be relied on to produce total package evergreen titles, that will be played for years to come.

The industry is more diverse and stronger and generally more exciting when Nintendo is around.

@oatmealwarrior92 There PS3 sold more consoles in the end of the cycle.

@rjejr But no one buys 4K blurays i would love to see how many 4K blurays are being sold.

@Flaming_Kaiser I know that .... In my comment i said PS3 made a comeback.

Jim Ryan said something intelligent for once? Colour me surprised.

Competition is good and I love how Nintendo refuses to be the triplet or becoming a third party developer. They keep throwing new ideas as well as producing great new installments in their flagship IPs.

About MS, I am still not interested and if I would, I would get a X1S cheap instead of a Scorpio.

@Grudgebearer
Monster Hunter is multiplat. Not sure what "backhanded deal" you're referring to. Maybe Capcom wanted...dare I say it...a market to sell to.

The industry would be a much more exciting place if SEGA was still in the console race instead of Nintendo

Competition is always great but Nintendo are not taking on PS4. Nintendo should just stop making consoles and do what they do best ... produce software. This would be released on Xbox and PS4. 4k Mario kart multiplayer and be able to talk to people like proper grown ups.

My original launch Xbox crashed, my replacement caught fire, and my first two Xbox 360s had the red ring of death. As far as I'm concerned, I'm both the unluckiest hardware purchased in the world and MS will never get a dollar from me. Of the 17 home gaming systems I've owned (and currently still do) those are the only ones to ever fail on me. All of my Atari, Sega, Nintendo, Neo Geo, Turbo Grafx, Sony, etc. systems still function just fine. I can't call that a complete coincidence.

@Hordak Funny enough, the ONLY console I have ever had fail is the original 60GB PS3 Phat that ended up with YLOD - the equivalent to MS's RROD. It maybe that I go lucky because I traded my original XB360 for an Elite which got traded for a Slim (w. Kinect) where as I kept my Phat because it cost an absolute fortune (far more expensive than the XBX btw), had more ports and BC built in too - something the later models didn't so it flt like it was a 'downgrade' in essence - I still have it in Storage but ended up having to buy a Slim to keep playing my PS3 games but because I had given my PS2 away, I ended up giving my PS2 games I 'could' play away too when the Phat gave up...

@YETi Why would Nintendo do that? The calibre of their 1st party titles more or less guarantees a core audience will buy their console, their stock price is healthy and I believe they're also cash rich.
Personally hope they continue to do their own thing and don't stop trying new things.

@themcnoisy
Well it's definitely not pocket change lol. I'm sure that was a very nice pc but personally I would never be able to spend that much. Everyone has different circumstances though.

I'm sticking to my regular PS4 and will upgrade when it's the PS5 which will probably release in 2019/2020. honestly Xbox messed up again with the high price tag and not enough games to push the system for that high price tag, however lightening could strike who knows. Nintendo might be selling switches but I'm not impressed with the current library to shell out $300+. if I bought one it would be in another two years when the library is built up and there is probably a "new" switch or a switch pro out.

@Hordak on memory my Ps1, PS2, X360 and to a certain extent my original PS4 have all failed me. Ps1 disc drive, PS2 stopped loading games and frequent crashes, 360 rrod and ps4 became super slow and clicked all the time.

The Sega megadrive was unbreakable back in the day. The abuse that thing took and kept on working. Same too the Gameboy.

@starman292 yes they do. But as an enthusiast gamer, I'm not gonna put going out on the lash or buying a car with crazy insurance ahead of being able to buy the consoles and games I want to play. Gaming's my hobby and if theres 3 good or great consoles I will buy all 3. My first years driving insurance was £1400, I've spent £300 just on a night out before. When you weigh it up £630 for pro / switch combo.which will be good to play the cutting edge games until the next decade is a total bargain.

3DS anybody?

@themcnoisy I hear you on the Mega Drive (Genesis, in my case). Mine took a beating from my friends and still works great. My original gameboy is a monster too. It looks and plays like brand new. It even sucks the life out of AA batteries just as much as it did way back when lol

@stevejcrow I just think they are the best company for making games and would sell millions more on ps4 and Xbox consoles. 60 + million potential ps4 customers and a few on Xbox.

Nintendo's E3 was hit and miss. 2DS and 3DS were great, with games like Metroid: Samus Returns (and coming so soon in September!)

But the Switch side... yeugh. When their "biggest" Switch announcement was a title card from a game that will probably be out in late 2019 at the earliest, you know Switch is having a lot of trouble.

Sony chugs on and pumps out the great games, while Nintendo innovates. No open world game will be the same after Zelda. Although not everything Nintendo tries lands, the industry can't evolve. I feel like I'm forgetting something.... oh! Microsoft!? Do they do video games?

@Flaming_Kaiser 4K blurays

Target has an aisle.

I'm guessing the people who buy 4k blu rays are the people who bought a 4k tv and blu ray player and now feel the need to justify their purchase.

I've always been a "Nintendo First" gamer and then I pickup one of the other systems to play stuff that doesn't make it to the Nintendo systems. This gen I went with PS4 but last gen I went Xbox 360. I think both of those moves were good decisions for me.

@oatmealwarrior92 The reason why is because the 360 did nothing of the sort. There was no "domination".

Stay with me for a minute. The PS3 had single digit failure rates, and the 360 approached a 50% failure rate for the first few years of its life. All of the 360 owners I know in real life have purchased 2, 3, 4, 5 (some up to 9!) 360s to replace faulty units because of the RROD. I am sure many of you have similar experiences.

We use "number of consoles sold" to represent "number households with a console" because most of the time, its a relatively close number (with some multi console households). With the 360 however, there is a dramatic separation between these two numbers, and its this number that makes a console dominate a generation.