Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age has been out for a few days now on PlayStation 4, so we thought we'd give you lot an opportunity to share your thoughts. Looking back through the series' history, there's no doubt that XII is one of its most divisive entries. Some adore it and the complexity that it brings to the table while others just can't get around its slightly strange systems and deliberately paced story.
We happen to be of the former persuasion, awarding it a 9/10 in our review. We also played the crap out of it back in its original form on the PlayStation 2, however, so maybe that has something to do with it. But what about you? Is this your first time playing Final Fantasy XII, or did you first try it on Sony's last-last-gen console? Vote in our polls, and then feed us your thoughts in the comments section below.
Are you enjoying Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age? (120 votes)
- Yes, it's a fantastic game
- I am, it's great so far
- Meh, it's okay
- Nah, I'm not enjoying it very much0%
- No, I think it's rubbish
- I haven't actually bought it
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Did you play the original Final Fantasy XII? (120 votes)
- Yes, and now I'm playing The Zodiac Age
- Yep, but I haven't bought The Zodiac Age
- No, but I'm playing The Zodiac Age
- Nope, and I don't own The Zodiac Age either
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How highly would you rate Final Fantasy XII? (83 votes)
- It's the best Final Fantasy game
- It's one of the best Final Fantasy games
- It's not a bad Final Fantasy game, but not great either
- It's one of the weaker Final Fantasy games
- It's the worst Final Fantasy game
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Comments 54
So far I'm loving it, the battle system is superb. The story is not weak, it's just not particularly clear. It would benefit from a second play through but I don't know if i'll be doing that.
It's also served to better highlight the problems FF15 has.
It's on course to be my third favourite Final Fantasy game.
Can't wait to play some more this weekend!
I think it's great! I loved the orginal and played it for over 100 hours, finding it completely engrossing. Definitely in my top 5 Final Fantasy list behind 10, 6 and 7.
I'm not very far into Zodiac Age - Penelo has just joined the party - and so I'm slowly relearning its systems. I can't really judge the difference the job system makes at this stage. I think they've generally done a very good job with the remastering, updating where it needed it the most, although some textures are showing their age a little. I'm glad there's not a jaggy in sight! It was a very handsome game to begin with. I can't work out if I like the remastered music more than the original.
I still haven't bought it yet. I hate being skint. I loved the original, though, it's my favourite of the FF games that I've played (7, 9, 10, 12, 13 and 13-2, 14)
@kyleforrester87 What's your fave first two FF's mate?
About a year ago I bought a ps2, ff12, and a memory card just so I could play this game. Probably my favorite ff game, I like it even better than 7. Job system makes each character matter which is so much different than the original. I think I'll may actually beat it this go around!
@ApostateMage 7 and 9 for me. Don't make me decide in which order though, I'll still be trying to figure that one out on my death bed :')
Not fair for me to vote yet as it only arrived through my letterbox yesterday and I have only got as far as installing it. However, I am genuinely fascinated to see what my reaction to it will be because I remember being so underwhelmed by the story last time (but I really enjoyed the gambit system). Lets see what difference separation has made. I really want to love it . The art on the steel book version is beautiful!
loving it so far, i like the new Zodiac System, kind of mix between the FFX Sphere Grid and the old Job System
on a side note is it me or is this version of the game easier than the PS2 original?
As an aside, while I was feeding baby last night, I watched comparison videos between ps2 and the remaster. I genuinely cannot believe how out of focus and blurry the original game was ; although I do remember being at university and finding that really off putting at the time
@FullbringIchigo Does seem easier but I didn't play much of the original. It's probably more to do with how much better we are at games these days
Hmm there's pros and con's, the job system locks out certain parts of the board so each character only learns certain abilities, in the original all chactacters could learn anything so could have all characters able to use black/white magic. A few things that weren't in the original game on ps2 , such as the map by pressing l3, in the original game had to open the menus to see the map. The 2x or 4x speed is handy as not have to walk for ages
I like this kind of polls. You guys should do this way mote often.
@Rob_230 Aye, I remember firing up my PS2 to play this last year and it was like somebody had smeared my TV in vaseline. This remaster looks lovely and crisp.
@kyleforrester87 Both are cracking games but I reckon IX would just edge it for me.
@JAMes-BroWWWn We try to have one for every 'big' game that comes out, but I suppose we can do them more often if that's what everyone wants. Thanks for the feedback!
Haven't played the remaster, but I really enjoyed the original. The combat system is fantastic, and the story feels much more grounded and realistic than in previous games.
Bought it and not played it or the original. Those options aren't there. Still working through X and X-2 remaster.
Never played the original and I may get this one later on as it has been reviewing pretty well.
Next one on my plate is actually KH2 and I have heard nothing but good things about it. It will keep me busy for a while.
@kyleforrester87 perhaps
@ApostateMage final fantasy 9 is the best game of all time, never mind the final fantasies if I could only ever play one game again it would be that. Hope Square remake that one day too (I would take smoothed out visuals and trophies, even if they did if nothing else).
The first time I played it on ps2 I hate the game (not fan of vaan, mmo like world, and uninteresting story), but I'll give the game another chance, I just bought the steelcase version.
I have it, I just haven't played it yet, and I never touched the original release. Glad Square released it in HD so I don't have to hunt a PS2 copy down.
The poll doesn't have a "bought FFXII but still playing through FFXIV Stormblood right now" option!
I played the original on PS2 (on a CRT) and managed to get about halfway through before the PS3 came out. I put the original in the PS3 (on an HDTV) and it looked like complete garbage. It was so bad that after about 10 minutes playing it, I shelved it and didn't look back (I no longer had my PS2 or my CRT)
So I am happy to have this chance to play it again (with enhancements!). I have only managed to get about 30 mins play time in because of Stormblood, but I plan to play it soon.
The combat is a lot more clunky than I remember it. Targeting isn't great, and the combat speed is pretty slow. Of course there is a speed up option, but that just makes the whole game run faster (the animations, the timers, etc...) so doesn't really address the combat pacing issue.
Haven't played yet but did install it. Side note, that reverse case cover is slick, i switched to it immediately! My second favorite next to Horizon's.
@ApostateMage I'm inclined to agree really, it's basically flawless aside from one or two sections that can be a bit of a drag.
@kyleforrester87 What flaws are you referring to in FFXV? I'm trying to decide which FF to get as I've never really played one but am intrigued by both.
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Honestly, I used to dislike ff xii, the whole microcosm of ivolice felt unfamiliar and my biggest gripe was with the gambit system. In 2006 I tried playing 12 but I had avery hard time understanding it and got stuck on the Laviathan airship (rescuing Amilia) I tried three separate times that year and always found myself stuck in the same place. Now in 2017 I realize how wrong I was,where I used to dislike it for being different from other main ff titles I now find it bold, today it seems main line ff games are quite the opposite .today newer titles play out like a chore and they push final fantasy staples in them like a gimmick. Final fantasy xii came along at a time where it wanted to show the world that the series was the state of it's genre not just a nostalgic cash in on the past. Unfortunately I like many a gamer i didn't like xii at the time and I have to wonder if that misguided reception was what led to the end of the most important jrpg series of the day. 15 is getting back on track and it lays some groundwork that with the right amount of creativity and cultural implementation might very well be a bright future. I wanted to give xii another shot because something about it always grabbed me dispute my distaste and interestingly I find myself realign loving it . Aspects that were to complex back then seem natural now the art I'm am loving as well as the plot, this has to do with the maturity I gained in adulthood I suspect.most of all what makes this great is it has that epic unique feeling that final fantasy used to carry it is timeless. I was admittedly wrong about this game it is amazing and still holds up because is was so far ahead.
@Lonejester Of course this is just my opinion but FF15 has pretty major problems with its story (nice concept, poorly conceived, such a shame) and while the combat was enjoyable enough it's just a case of holding a button down until you inevitably win.
All this said I still thoroughly enjoyed it, it's a beautiful mess of a game that I hated and I simply can't recommend it to anybody. You should try it!
Just finished Dragon Quest Builders was a really nice game now i need to finish the time based challenges. I think i will finish that later. These polls are awsome but i have such a backlog maybe in 6 months then i can answer it. 😀 😁 😂 🤣
The slow-gameplay was my one really big gripe with the original and here the speed-up feature fixes that, it alone makes the game infinitely better in my eyes, and the addition of the job system is really cool also.
I wouldn't say it's one of my favorites in the series still, but this port has certainly increased my opinion of it.
@kyleforrester87 Lol thanks haha
On a side note, can Square Enix release a package of FF1-6 in their original state. (not the mobile versions).
@FullbringIchigo @kyleforrester87 @OutspokenHuman Do you guys really think it might be easier overall? The game has been rebalanced, but I don't know the details.
However, I could almost swear that it was harder before the day one patch that apparently fixed a few minor bugs. I started the game over once I'd reviewed it to try out different jobs and other things, and it just seems that much easier in general. Characters seem to be blocking attacks more and other little things. Maybe I'm just going insane, but it's worth a mention.
@ShogunRok i think the enemies are less powerful in this version because i'm sure when escaping the Nalbina Dungeons on PS2 i was a higher level and still had trouble, spent ages in there leveling up to about level 10 in order to beat the boss but this time i got through no issues at about level 6
i also think it's easier to level up too as if the enemies give more EXP
and i too noticed that party members seem to defend more, i also think the characters stats are different as in they are stronger at lower levels than the PS2 version
now it could be the game had to be rebalanced because of the Zodiac Job System but short of booting up the PS2 version and playing through that i can't tell
Sad that we don't have the sky pirates den in our clan primer this time
I really want this on Vita
@ShogunRok Really hard for me to say as I didn't get very far in the original. I remember getting hammered by a randomly high level enemy (which I now realise was an elemental) early on and giving up back in the day.
I can say I've not had too much trouble so far though although I did quite a bit of levelling earlier on. Struggled at the last boss so need to spend a bit of time on my licenses and gambits now. But overall it seems well balanced at any rate!
20 hours in, just left the jungle area in the south. How far through the story am I?
@kyleforrester87 @FullbringIchigo I'm glad it's not just me, I'm almost positive it's easier in places. And yeah, characters do seem to level up quite fast. I'm sure I used to spend hours grinding just a handful of levels back on PS2. This needs further investigating!
And you've got a long while to go yet, Kyle.
@Arckadius Me too. I hoped it would come to Vita given how well square ported ffx across. All I can think is that the gambit system would have been a nightmare to follow on the small screen. The game has more going on in terms of npcs etc as well so it probably would have been needed too much memory. Still, the vita lives on!
I watched this being played, and I gotta say that running around with lines coming out of you automatically to attack enemies doesn't look too involving for the player.
@Wesker the joy of the combat is in the menus before hand as you program your automatic death squad as much as it is actually on the field.
That said there is still a certain engagement to the combat. But the more automatic it is, the better. Coz that means you did a great job configuring your team!
It's oddly rewarding. You could turn all gambits off and input every command manually for each player, though.
@Wesker A zillion times more enjoyable than holding a button and wrestling the camera in the horrid FFXV, in my opinion.
@ApostateMage to be fair and while i can see where your coming from, if all your doing is holding down one button to fight then your not doing it properly there are different ways to fight on XV you know, such as switching weapons on the fly, using techniques, using Magic, making sure you watch your surroundings and guard at the right time, keeping an eye on you party's stats and maintaining them, it's far more than just holding one button
it's like on FFXIII, yeah you can just press auto battle and have the game play for you or you can take full contorl of you character but if your CHOOSING not to use the other functions and just use auto battle that's your fault
@FullbringIchigo Thing is while I agree you can mix the combat up in FF15, and I did just to keep it spicy, you never really needed to.
@kyleforrester87 true as i said i understand where he was coming from but i don't think people should complain if they are choosing not to do all it is capable of, in that case if they are having a bad experience then it's their fault not that of the game
@FullbringIchigo I didn't mind the combat in FF15, it was entertaining enough, and it's not really a fair comparison with 12 as they are both entirely different systems. But 12s is the far more enjoyable system IMO.
@FullbringIchigo I know you'll probably roll your eyes but I've only played the platinum demo and 3rd demo from the Japanese store, but it was enough to put me right off the game. I heard that the combat never really evolves much from what it's like in the 3rd demo and I really wasn't digging it even when I tried mixing things up like you say.
@kyleforrester87 true XII's is a better system although i still enjoyed XV's but personally i think IX had the best
@ApostateMage it changed a bit from Platinum Demo i know that but i never played the Japanese demo as i don't have a Japanese account but they added a wait mode where the game pauses during battle and allows you to chose your attacks and targets in a more tactical manner
@ApostateMage Yeah the combat in the actual game is a lot better than the demos would have you believe, once you get into it a bit more anyway.
@kyleforrester87 @FullbringIchigo Cool. I'd give it another crack if it ever became about a tenner.
Never liked the original ps 2 game to begin with.
Doubt i will like the upscaled rehash, might buy it if i ever see it cheap.
But as far as I am concerned FF went on a steep decline after 9.
I am enjoying it immensely.
Hate me but I love VIII xD
Only started it and im already rehooked on hunts again. Im coming for you Tiamat!!!
@ApostateMage Did you forgot the FF8 on purpose ?
My best are :
8 - 10 - 12 - 15 - 13
@Mr_Alejo Hate me too then. FF8 to me is the best of the best. I am a little biased though since I started playing FF with the 8.
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