Gamescom 2017: A New Pro PS4 Controller Has Been Announced

What was the deal with that ad they were running with something under a red cloth? Did that pan out to anything yet or are we still waiting for it?

Edit: Nevermind, it was just a GT Sport edition PS4.

I'd prefer the left stick swapped with the D pad, but if the price is right and it has decent build quality, I might just grab one. I'm a bit tired holding out for an official one.

I don't like it. But I don't like any controller with the sticks positioned like that, like the Xbox controller. I find them uncomfortable and I just don't understand it. My hands have the thumbs in the same place you know? They mirror each other, so why put the sticks so far apart in a different position? It's always bugged me.

I think I'm gonna save up and buy the universal controller it works on everything.

I've been using the original Nacon Revolution for a few months now and have to say I find it way better than the original ps4 controller. The sticks take a bit of getting used to but for shooters it's a godsend.

Besides full button/trigger customization, this is far from Pro-grade. Useful paddle buttons are missing, replaced with.....LED color configuration??
The analog sticks should really match the DualShock layout if this is officially licensed.
And why in the hell is one stick concave while the other is convex, looks like thumbs will slip off the right-stick easily.

@BraveFencerZan The paddles are replaced with buttons. They're actually really good. The LEDs tell you which configuration you're set to, e.g. you might want different button mapping for different games.

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@get2sammyb i don't because if I tilt both sticks too far at the same time my thumbs start touching at some point and it's really annoying

i love how all these ps4 pro controllers are basically xbox controllers lol

Looks bad. Why do third party manufacturers keep making bad accessory controllers?

I could never advocate Sony copying the xbox controller.

I can't think of many consoles (aside from the N64), where the traditional controller wasn't the best.

But this is just designed to lure XB players who don't like the PS controller.

USB-C? Sold.

At this point, I just want better battery for ps5 dualshock 5, at least the same as playstation 3 battery

@DanM yeah I'm in the "gimme symmetrical sticks for God's sake" camp, to the point I'm actually bugged Nintendo decided to go back to asymmetrical one with the Switch after the Wii U (though I can totally understand why, symmetrical sticks wouldn't be compatible with the whole "multiplayer out of the box by using just one Joy-Con" thing).
I have to add, though, that I understand why people might prefer asymmetrical sticks: you said your hands have their thumbs in the same place, but I doubt they're always resting on the sticks. I mean, there are games which are require using the face buttons way more than the right sticks, so for those games XBox is "symmetrical" while PS isn't, though actually even third-person action and/or adventure seem to put more and more emphasis on the camera stick (for example I've recently bought Infamous SS, and it controls somewhat like an FPS; and Saints Row IV does, as well as GTAV and the likes).

And can i change the stick back to the original place of the PS controllers?

@clvr Face buttons are used a lot in Fighting games, as is the d-pad. When you look at it from that angle, I suppose no one format is the best for all games, but the symmetrical Analogs appears to encompass more than not.

@manu0??????

That thing is hideous. Why make the sticks asymmetrical when the current set-up allows such easy access to both analog sticks and D-Pad?

And yeah, it's baffling that Sony hasn't created a DS4 Elite controller.

Personally, I have always preferred the asymmetrical layout as I find it much more comfortable. My thumb naturally falls on to the Left thumb stick - which is great as you rarely need to take your thumb off the Left stick and my right naturally falls over the buttons. As you tend to constantly switch your thumb between sticks and buttons, I find this more comfortable.

The DS4 is by far the most comfortable 'official' Controller Sony has made. The more bulbous grips and better trigger angle has really helped and I find my left thumb not cramping up anywhere near as often as it did with DS1-3.

My main issue though with these 'Elite' controllers is that they are 'wired'. The one thing that the Elite has over all other controllers, is 'build' quality - at the expense of weight. Using metal in the build has given the Elite a much longer life-span by significantly reducing the life-span. Even if the 'paddles' are not required, the overall build quality for me has seen the Elite outlast any other controller I have. Its great that its 'customisable' with different height sticks, trigger stops and 'dual' settings but even if you don't mess with all the 'tweaks', as a 'basic' controller, its still the 'best' on the market.

I still think that Sony will be bringing its PS5 to the market sooner rather than later. If not by Q4 2018, almost certainly by Q4 2019. I would 'hope' that Sony do look at bringing out their own 'Elite' DS5. I can't see Sony making an 'Elite' DS5 as 'standard' (although could have some extra buttons/paddles) as I am sure Sony want to keep selling you extra/replacements when they wear out (quickly if like me) to keep profits coming in. In the few years I have owned my PS4 and Pro (that's 2 controllers right there), I have also had to buy 4 or 5 extra controllers due to 'wear and tear' issues - most notably on the left thumb stick. By comparison, since I bought my 'Elite' (Day 1 pre-order), I have not needed a replacement. Its outlasted 3-4 XB1 standard controllers. I know its expensive but when you compare the cost for the last two years, compared to the cost in my first 2 years on XB1 controllers, Buying the Elite has worked out significantly cheaper.

Anyway, I won't be buying any 'third' party controller that is wired only. I know Wired can reduce Lag - slightly in some cases - but not every game I play, I play 'competitively' and the choice to play either wired or wirelessly is more important to me. If I had to buy a 'professional' controller, I would look to Scuf as it can be used wirelessly too - as well as customised too...

just buy a SCUF controller and be done with it.

count me as another who can't stand asymmetrical sticks. but then i will only use L1/R1 for aim/shoot controls and the relative positions of the left stick and L1 trigger in the asymmetrical setup is too damn uncomfortable for me.

i'm still using my launch DS4, it's almost as good as new. i got an additional blue one with my PS4 bundle which is the one i've stuck with from the start. i've had dimpled rubber thumb grips from day 1, so the original rubber is still intact too.

I prefer the same exact layout the PS4 Controller is.

I find the ps4 controllers L2/R2 triggers annoying as all heck! Pointy and stickin into my fingers. It hurts.

Don't call it a pro-controller when you can't even get the d-pad right.
Gives me flashbacks to the wester Saturn V1 d-pads. /shudder

Ok, i give up. Someone please explain the preference that many have to asymmetrical sticks. For me it never feels comfortable and natural.

Overall the DS4 is my favorite controller. I have hoped for an improved version with longer battery life and more durable d pad. Then also an option to turn off the light and more custom button mapping saves than just the current only 1.

The only thing i really dislike about the DS4 is the share and options buttons being raised too little. Raised a little higher would make those buttons more easy to use.

@NoCode23 I fully agree with everything u said. 😉

i have always hated the symmetrical analogue sticks of the PS controllers, asymmetrical are so much better for me, so much more comfortable.

@leucocyte Does the SCUF Impact have the same buttons as the vanilla DS4? It looks like their controllers are just modified DS4s (trackpad seems to be the same, status light on the front seems to be the same), and for £180 I would expect extremely tactile buttons in all positions. Or is the £180 only really paying for the paddles and a slightly nicer design?

@clvr
Actually, my thumbs ARE constantly resting on the sticks, even when I'm not moving them. I barely ever use the d-pad unless I really need to, like if the game doesn't let you use the left stick instead (navigating menus for example, most games now let you do that with the stick). But to each their own, even if I'll never understand how anyone can find asymmetrical sticks comfortable, unless they play games which use the d-pad much more than the left stick. Frankly, I can't even think of a game I played that did that. I still remember how I found extremely frustrating the Crash Bandicoot bits in UC4. Just really uncomfortable to constantly use the d-pad like that. I can't even imagine how annoying it would be to have a stick in that position as well.