Well well well, what do we have here? Eurogamer have got their hands on the release notes for the upcoming PlayStation 4 firmware 5.0, which reveal the various software enhancements that Sony is set to implement. To be brutally honest, though, we're not looking at anything too exciting this time around.
For starters, 5.0 will allow you to stream to Twitch in 1080p at 60 frames per second, but only if you're playing on a PS4 Pro. This appears to be the update's headline act, so you can see why we think it's a little underwhelming. Next, the firmware will bring the ability to follow any PlayStation Network account, not just accounts that belong to industry figures and developers.
On top of that, the Japanese giant is making changes to how the sub and master account system works. According to Eurogamer, "New family accounts will be able to feature multiple adult accounts in a family, able to act in a parent/guardian role and set parental controls on a per-account basis, so each child has different communications, content-viewing and spending limit privileges". Basically, it sounds like it's going to be easier to manage multiple accounts on one console.
The only addition that's really caught our eye, notifications are being added to the quick menu so that you can check downloads, uploads, etc. without having to jump over to the full notification screen. A relatively small improvement, but one that'll definitely come in handy.
Firmware update 5.0 still doesn't have a release date, but the closed beta is supposedly happening this month. Are you happy with these improvements and additions? Let us know if you're disappointed by the big five-o in the comments section below.
[source eurogamer.net]
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Meeeeeeh. Can't really think of anything else that really needs added, though.
Sounds good to me.
Sounds more 4.8 than 5.0 tbh
I was expecting a full UI overhaul. Maybe that will come with the next console a couple of years down the line. Not bad improvements by any means and any improvement is a welcome one.
The main thing I'd like to see added is full cloud saving like on Xbox. So I can start my game on my PS4 here then when I continue it on PS4 there it'll swiftly sync the save and I can continue without faffing with manual upload and download or USB sticks.
It'd be nice if they allowed remote play on iPhone too. But can't see that happening.
It still plays games though, right? Sound.
@stua12t Why do you want a UI overhaul? What's the point? I feel like people say this for the sake of change when it's really not necessary?
The system's menus look nice and work very fast; aside from some lag which I'm convinced is caused by hard drives in need of a clean up, I'm not sure why it needs an "overhaul" at all.
Don't fix what ain't broke (as the new notifications menu evidences).
@get2sammyb I'm not a fan of the main home screen. It's been improved but I was hoping to see a different style. I just find it a bit long winded. For example the lag is a major issue which I only really noticed about a year or so ago. I just genuinely don't like the home menu system to be fair I much prefer the Xbox UI.
@OldSchoolHeel exactly that, it must be a difficult job to get right but it's definitely a chore to get to certain areas and what annoys me most is trying to find add on content you've purchased for a game. Having to go through menu after menu.
@get2sammyb
Lag?! Laaaaag?! There should be less of it!!
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Jk. I think the PS4 is in a good spot right now. I would like the option of having even more control over what is on the scrolling main menu thingie. There are quite a few apps I don't use or plan on using and I want them gone. The best thing I've been able to do is throw them all in a folder, but now I want that folder gone too.
Video section overhaul. I refuse to use that clustered mess of advertisements. At the very least, I don't need adverts for services I already have installed...
Cloud storage for screenshots would be a nice addition to PS+ (or just integrate it into an existing cloud storage solution).
Changing albums in the quick menu would be nice as well. I don't like suspending a game to change albums in the media player app.
Clear all option for notifications/upload/downloads.
Custom themes. Let me choose background music/noises from one theme while displaying another theme
Improved mouse/keyboard latency (native, not virtulized like the current system. Play FFXIV with them and you'll understand)
On the topic of UI, I'd rather have the XMB back.
It's fine I guess, but have to admit I was hoping for something a bit more fun with such a major new version number. Oh well, back to the games!
@ShogunRok well I think we should get the option to hide stuff from the library. I'm tired of seeing demos I played for a total of 10 minutes there. Visible wishlist and gifting would be nice, customizing folders with a specific image for it, like if I have my fighting games in a folder I can have an image of a Joystick or something to distinguish it.
Nothing major, but there is room for improvement in anything and everything.
After the increase on PS+ costs, I really hoped they'd come out with a good enough reason to justify that, but is seems like they're only bleeding you because they can. At the current asking price, none of the wild guesses of changing username, Now included with +, and a few other big hitters that keep on being mentioned since launch seem like asking too much. Ridiculous.
LMAO to do garbage like this might aswell wait more time and put it all together with another update! Or at least dont call it 5.0
Was hoping for a trophy tracker or trophy completion bar but otherwise I don't think too much else needs tweaking
@stua12t I think you're insane, the Xbox dash is sub-par even after years of chopping and changing it. But let's not go down that path.
@xX_RiscazZ_Xx What does the system software have to do with anything you listed?
The family management improvement is a big deal. Definitely interested.
@xX_RiscazZ_Xx A firmware update wasn't going to change anything with. We've been saying for months that PS Now isn't available in every region so they can't offer it anyway.
This is about as noteworthy as those stability updates, it's not worth a new number.
@get2sammyb Each to there own I guess. I would love to see trophy tracking though, and like I said, for me the UI isn't great but it has improved over the years it's just a bit of a slog getting around it.
@stua12t I agree with you on Trophy tracking. I'd also like that.
The UI is ok it just needs the lag fixed. Adding a delete cache in the browser settings may help. I get heavy lag when exiting the browser to the home page after browsing sites with javascript enabled. So much lag sometimes that i turn off and then on my PS4 before continuing.
The lag after exiting the browser continues when using the home screen forcing a turn off turn on cycle. This lag started with an update in 2016 and it is annoying and has become worse with recent firmware updates.
I think you forgot one pretty major thing from eurogamer:
"Sony will add support for bundle and compilation discs, with or without add-ons"
nice! this has been needed for a long time!
Mostly my UI works fine but it's way way more laggy than it used to be, between my OG version, slim and new 2tb HD they've all been slower for a good while.
What I would really like is the ability to see how much time I've spent playing a game.
Sony has all that info available, so why not let us see it? Steam has it.
a disk defrag option
Are they putting the notifications menu back to how it used to be? Hope so...
Yeah, cool (not really).
Call me when we can disable the background going blue on its own, thus defeating the purpose of dynamic themes. Also, instead of doing that, maybe the screen saver would actually work in a fashion where the menus go invisible and only the timer stays up on the top left and if you click anything on the controller, they come back or if you have a new notification.
Except that, call me when we can play media files from a USB device, when we can change our names in some fashion and when we can choose any picture for a background. These will never happen.
I just want the option to pin my favorite game to the front of the ui and pin my app (like browser that I accidently open) to the back of the ui.
PS1 Classics or no buy.
@Sunnyviji I think it's there in safe mode.
@manu0 Can you explain a little bit better how this would work? Surely this is already supported with stuff like, say, Crash Bandicoot?
I just want to be able to change my psn id
@get2sammyb is rebuild database the same as defraging?
@ShogunRok Not even more stability?!?
This is very disappointing, but honestly the only feature I've been clamoring for will never happen--the ability to organize and edit the video apps. They'll never let us do that as half are ads.
@OldSchoolHeel compared to the xbone the PS4 is a dream. Finding anything on my Xbox is a nightmare.
I would still like a little notes field for my friends, so I can remember where I met them/games/names, etc and the occasional "so-and-so's friend.
Better Trophy tracking sounds dreamy too.
I can't wait this will be awsome to see plus for all those people who stream will be able to stream @ 1080 p he'll yea I'm ready for it
I'm a little confused about the account system changes. Do these family accounts mean I can finally play games online with two PS4's on one account?
.....Or is this just a glorified parental control feature?
Pretty boring for a big numbered patch but as someone has pointed....it still plays my games so no complaints
UI is fine personally and does the job, im on there to play games and watch youtube/netflix
Only thing i do hate is the way they have piled all the Video apps in together, more pointless than anything.
Otherwise meh..
@ShogunRok button remap support for Remote Play mode?
Dang. Was expecting soemthing big like PS1 classics or PSN name changer.
I often wonder why there is lag on this FreeBSD based OS when other OS built on the same software run fine.
And then I ask myself why this one takes 3GBs of RAM.
And then I ask myself why they butchered the TV and Notifications sections.
And then I stop and eagerly await to see what OS the PS5 will use because evidently its all downhill from here for PS4 OS.
Stable as a table i guess.....
Would like to see trophy tracking too. Is the ability to completely delete demo's from our libraries going to happen?
Underwhelming if true, but let's save the hate for when it's confirmed; still holding out for a nice surprise. The new tv section is fantastic, was hoping they'd re-do other sections. But you know, world and enough time etc.
My 500KB upload won't support 1080p @ 60FPS! 😂
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How about the ability to reorganize my home screen. I have zero interest in PlayStation Now and would like to be able to move the icon. Also PSN name changes, just because WTF Sony.
Yay, let's waste a giant update on twitch garbage. I'm really not liking the direction developers and console makers are going by making streamers one of their top priorities. How about letting us have our full PS1 classics library available so i can finally put away my PS3?
I wish the custom mapping feature for the DS4 allowed for more than one save. At least 3 so i can save the multiple changes for one game like Dying Light and then also be able to do a race in GTAO where i need just one change.
For the UI i would like to be able to hide or delete what i do not want. Also 9 or 12 favorites listed under WWW would be nice for shortcuts.
Another small new feature would be a tap on the touch pad that would activate/deactivate zooming with L2 and R2 while in the browser like the PS3 has.
Those are little changes for some but big to me.
I don't understand why a company like Sony are struggling so infernally with the most common setting in the world: being able to change your username. Some of us chose PSN usernames in a state of...enhanced reality. I'd like to rectify that mistake, thanks.
I'd like to see button remap templates, which I can choose / assign for every game individually. I hate to aim and shoot using the L2/R2 triggers, I'm more comfortable with L1/R1. But I don't want to change the button layout every time I switch from one game to another, as it is now.
I thought for sure a username change would be in this time
@OldSchoolHeel Pressing left or right up and down dont see the problem here. Maybe a few tweaks a overhaul is not needed for me personally.
@SMKpaladin Maybe drop a line at Sony sounds like a solid plan.
@Th3solution Also a good one.
But if read other sites its a few of the options? And its not finished so?
I was hoping the PS4 would be able to play PS1 classics with this update.
and these basic features need beta testers ?
@Beaglebard trophies are from the developer, they would have to add the progress bar
@unionjack3rd Playstation has had full cloud saving since PS+ began. Not entirely sure what features you are missing from it, but the only reason I have subscribed to PS+ since it launched is because of cloud saves.
@mantralux I am actually happy that they don't allow this. I think they should allow it once, when a sub account gets converted to a master account (because a child cannot be trusted to choose a reasonable name), but never at any other time. The name you choose to represent yourself online tells people a lot about you.
If you (the general you) created your account during a drunk/drug addled night that you are not happy with, not only does that give us insight (for better or worse) into your character that we would not normally have, but it also should be pretty easy to delete your account and create a new one with a reasonable name. If the name was/is really that bad, then you (again the general you, not you specifically) should not have continued to play with it for days/weeks/months/years.
Maybe I could see a compromise (like you can change it once per 5 years), but I like having the easily available information about the type of person I am playing with. Sometimes because I am of a like mind and want to play with similar people, or because I want to avoid certain types of people altogether.
PS One classics.... Pleeeeeeease....
@thedevilsjester hi,what I meant was Xbox saves automatically download on the Xbox you've logged in to. You don't have to manually download the save from the cloud.
And the save you do on the second console goes up to the cloud ready to auto download when logged into console one.
Hope that somewhat clears up what I mean.
I know PlayStation does cloud saves. And it's really useful just want it to auto download and sync.
@unionjack3rd it does Auto download/upload and sync it just does it on a scheduled basis, not every time you save. It would be nice if it prompted you when you exited the game so you didn't have to go through the menus to do it.
Not really into trophies,but it would be nice to see what you get in PSVR,instead of of just the sound alert.Oh and maybe PS3 backwards compatibility?
Twitch streaming 1080p/60fps I will use
PSVR spectators comments ( very useful as I have PSVR)
Notifications now showing in the Quick Menu ( is welcomed)
But where is these cool Features
there is lots and lots more they need to implement I just feel this Update if confirmed will be a letdown
@stua12t To be honest few Customization to it would be nice doesn't really need a full Overhaul
@thedevilsjester not on a secondary console it doesn't
Sometimes my PS4 is not as smooth as it normally is(when moving around on the main screen. Not sure why. Maybe it happens when it's downloading a update but not 100% sure really) I rather they fix that than silly other features I won't use really. One thing I wish the PS4 could do is read more external hard drive formats. Can't think of anything else tho. Oh yeah and the impossible - read CD's and play my PS1 and PS2 and PS3 discs
@Carl-G I agree. There are many QoL updates they need to make, that should have a much higher priority than the things they are putting out right now. More hard drive formats would be nice. I have to have a FAT32 partition every one of my HDDs to transfer videos I want to watch on my PS4 from my EXT3 or Mac OS partitions. It would be great if I didn't have to do this.
@unionjack3rd There are pretty good reasons for this, but as a fellow multi-console owner, I understand where you are coming from.
Even manually uploading/downloading my saves from different PS4's, it will often get confused about which version is the "correct" one (and I will have to manually intervene) when its trying to replace an old save with a new one. There is no way that the system can be certain which file is the latest one (i.e. has the most up to date save) and which one was just created/last updated later (which doesn't mean its the right one).
If every system was always 100% online and 100% synced, then it wouldn't be an issue. You would be able to distinguish the most up to date save by its last modified date, but this value means absolutely nothing if everything isn't always in sync.
I get this a lot. Imagine you have a Netflix/Youtube/Whatever system profile that is uploaded/synced to your save cloud. Imagine you have two PS4s. It creates the settings file when it starts the app without you explicitly calling "save". Now imagine system one has all of the settings you want. Your most up to date settings. You sync that online. You load up system two, forget that you were not connected to the internet (or maybe the connection was a bit slow and you haven't synced, or the wifi access point is down, or the cable is unplugged, whatever) and Youtube starts up, creates a new settings file, and then connects you online.
Well technically THIS file is the newest. So should it replace the one that your other system uploaded? The one that contains your actual settings? Had system two gotten the message when system one uploaded the file, and immediately synced with it, then there wouldn't be a "new" file to have a conflict, but this cannot be reasonably assured, and in fact, this situation shows up once or twice a week on my systems, requiring manual intervention. An auto sync on the non-primary would be helpful for those that don't run into this (or haven't yet) but it will dramatically increase the likelihood that manual intervention has to be used, rendering the feature useless for many.
I just want a wishlist
So does this mean I can now allow my son to play with his cousin online instead of Sony thinking it's their wiser choice that he should not be exposed to his relatives in a online capacity?lol Am I now given the freedom to let him experience online?
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