Guide: When Does the New Red Dead Redemption 2 Trailer Release?

@RogerRoger I had a similar thought... Just nowhere near as thought out.

@RogerRoger I love this community - thanks Sammy, great info!

It's going to be a 2 1/2 minute trailer explaining the timeline for the release of all of the components of the newly announced season pass. Going to take a lot to outdo this #frescofiasco.

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@LaNooch1978 many standard editions are already 70 EUR digitally in Europe

@LaNooch1978 I have noticed that game prices have gone up anyway - at least in terms of physical prices. Most 'new' games could be bought for £40 a few years ago but now they are closer to £50 (UK). Still cheaper to buy than Digital but the gap is much closer now.

As for RDR2 and 'potential' for multiple editions - even though this is likely to be a Game of the Year, I can't see myself (currently) looking to buy any special edition - not unless it comes with a pass/code for a 'Nightmare' add-on. I have no interest in 'Online' or any 'online' bonus/add-on content. It wasn't something I enjoyed in the previous (or GTA for that matter) game.

As @rjejr has posted the Shadow of the Tomb Raider road-map, I have actually pre-order the 'Croft' edition (still only 3 main editions - standard, Croft and collectors edition). That road-map therefore is of interest as it shows that every month after release for 7months, I will be getting a challenge tomb and 'extras' inc additional narrative 'side' missions too.

I feel like someone should make a trailer for this trailer.

@BAMozzy US game prices have held steady at $60 since the PS3 and Xbox360 launched 10 years ago. Only the Wii held the $50 price from the previous gen. And unlike in the EU that $60 MSRP is standard across all stores. Now of course you have Amazon Prime where you get 20% off of pre-orders and Best Buy Gamers Club Unlocked gives you 20% off of everything, and Walmart charges $59.96 when everybody else charges $59.99, but the base price is $60. And there are probably gamers today who aren't old enough to remember AAA games not being $60. And that's both digital and physical.

And your take on that TR timeline is of course why it exists, but me, as I told my son last night, well my brain added May 2019 "TR Complete Edition" to it. Not that "Complete editions" mean what they used to when FFXV puts out "Royale Edition" then announces season pass 2, and my son recently bought season pass 2 for DBXV2, and Pokken Tournament DX on Switch, the port of the game on Wii U, just got paid DLC. Not that DX = Complete, but I'm sure some people took it that way.

I only bought GoW b/c it didn't have a season pass, otherwise I would have waited for that as well. Now I still think it will get DLC of some sort, but I'm hoping for stand alone like TLoU:LB or U:LL. Of course I haven't' finished the game yet, so maybe by then I'll think it won't need it. But I'll be shocked if it doesn't get something announced at E3. Need something extra for the GOTY edition next year.

@BAMozzy i'll just be getting the normal edition unless they release a version that includes the original RDD (you know like The Fractured But Whole included The Stick of Truth) then i'll get that

@rjejr that would be why none of them are called Complete Edition, now if they was and then they announced new DLC then that would be a problem but that's probably why publishers seem to have dropped the "Complete Edition" releases

@rjejr In the UK, £40 would be around $60 - or it was 10yrs ago. The exchange rate fluctuates but its around £43 now - not £47-48 as games seem to be now. At GAME, RDR2 is available to pre-order for £50 (£49.99) which, at the current exchange rate would be $68. Its not just RDR2 either as Detroit, the Crew 2, Black Ops 4, BioMutant, Death Stranding, Metro Exodus, Last of Us pt2, etc are £50 (pre-order), games like Anthem and Skull and Bones are listed as £55 and Ghost of Tsushima is £60. Considering I was pre-ordering games just a year or two ago for £39.99, the prices have jumped up for us.

I was annoyed (mildly) that my Limited Edition H:ZD didn't come with a Season Pass or mention any up-coming DLC - Of course I still bought it and would have still bought the LE at launch either way - even paid for the DLC up front too. I still would have bought the LE GoW edition with a Season Pass too if they offered it. I bought the 'Gold' edition of both Far Cry 5 and AC Origins recently because they came with a 'Season Pass'. The only difference is that I get all the content as it releases where as you get it in one GOTY pack after its been out a year. I bought the 20th anniversary Tomb Raider on PS4 when that released - a year after I bought it for the XB1. I also bought the GOTY Witcher 3, a year+ after beating the game on XB1 too but the difference is, I got to play both Tomb Raider and the Witcher when they released and without any spoiler (or at least very few as barely anyone had beaten these games.

I am thankful we have Season Passes as they cut down the price of buying all the content separately. Often, if you buy the special editions that include a Season Pass, its the 'best' deal - cheaper than a 'standard' edition and separate season pass and cheaper than buying it all separately - often with extras that you don't get by any other means - albeit cosmetic items or some artbook, digital soundtrack or something too. DLC isn't a 'bad' thing and some are better than others but that's true of games themselves. I happily paid for the Limited Editions of games like H:ZD, GoW and Spider-Man (even though none of these inc DLC but both HZD and SM have it). I can't say that FC5's DLC was worth it - but it does include FC3 too so can't see it not being worth the extra I paid over a 'standard' edition. Blood and Wine is bigger than a lot of AAA games and worth the cost of the whole season pass alone but then you get Batman's cosmetic only content and the actual 'playable' content covered in the Season Pass is poor for the cost.

If I don't think a game is worth £40-60, I won't pay it. I will wait for the inevitable drop and only pay the price I think is 'fair' for me. A lot for example were 'unhappy' to pay £40+m for the Order at only 6-8hrs long but for £10, it may well be worth picking up - others may well just be happy to wait until it comes to IGC (if it does). Some may well have bought the special edition and paid a lot more.

If RDR2 does have a GOTY edition, if I really like the game, I may pick it up on PS4 (or PS5 if its out then) like I did with RDR on the 360 after buying it initially on PS3.

@FullbringIchigo I will get it on XB1 and already have RDR via BC (enhanced on X) inc the Nightmare Zombies so its not going to influence my decision - not unless its 'remastered' and significantly enhanced.

@BAMozzy i was thinking of getting the original on XB1 but i want to wait and see if there is a special edition of RDD2 that includes it before i do, if i can get both in a special edition at a good price then i will

if not then i'll get the BCXB1 version

@BAMozzy Ghost of Tsushima is £60

That seems like a lot. Are retailers blaming the recent increases on Brexit at all or is that just a nonsensical meme?

I do know the prices in Canada jumped a lot 2 or 3 years ago. Not sure if there are too many gamers on here but a few on NL who've been complaining about the recent prices. Consoles are barely affordable there now.

There is a wide range of DLC. I still need to pick up Witcher 3 but I simply don't have the time for a game that I think will take me 200 hours. Zelda took 155 but my wife or kids could watch me play that a bit when they walked in the room. Witcher 3 doesn't seem like a good spectator game to me. But it certainly looked like people got their money's worth out of both the game and DLC.

I wonder how much money I would have spend back in the 90's before marriage, kids and house payments? Maybe I would have purchased everything like you. Nowadays I'm looking for cheap and games that are complete. That was a big benefit of RotTR coming to PS4 a eyar after X1, we got the Complete version day 1. I picked up the steelcase for $22 just before Christmas. Still haven't played it yet but maybe before the year is out.

"No time and no money" is pretty much my gaming mantra these days. A couple of hours a day a few days a week. Takes forever to finish anything so I might as well wait for them to be finished and cheap.

GoW was an exception, $48 on Amazon, planning on trading it in for $20 or $25 towards Labo for my kids when I'm done, everybody wins. And if it does get DLC, well I'll worry about that bridge when I come to it.

@rjejr Ghost of Tsushima - like the other prices I quoted are 'current' pre-order prices BUT they could drop closer to release. It still doesn't change the fact though that games have gone up on average in the past year or two after a period of stability. It seems to have coincided with the phasing out of last gen new release games. I paid £40 for games like Wolfenstein (1st), Arkham Knight, Rise of the Tomb Raider etc when I pre-ordered those but Wolfenstein 2 was £46 and Spider-Man was £47 when I pre-ordered that - although I cancelled and pre-ordered the LE edition when that was announced). It just shows that games have gone up recently.

I know I had to be a lot more considerate with gaming when my kids were little but now they are older. My youngest is 17 in a few months. However, I do remember what it was like trying to raise a family and support a gaming habit. It helped that most of my kids were gamers too and 'my' console(s) was also used for 'family' nights and entertainment with friends instead of board games. We would camp round a TV playing games like Mario Kart or Goldeneye. As such, it was relatively easy to have multiple consoles as we could buy one for the 'family' as a present, buy most games I wanted as well as buy games that the kids wanted but I could still play and a PC too. If I couldn't game on the main TV, I could game on PC or go and play games in the bedroom or with my kids in their room. I know I couldn't get all the games I wanted on release but I also had less scruples about buying pre-owned. My wife was 'relatively' understanding too as it was my 'hobby', something I did before we met and better than going out drinking with the lads every week or spending hours on a golf course.

Its not like I buy 'every' game either - this year I have bought 3 games new and 2 in a sale - one cost £5 and the other £20 with ALL DLC. As it stands right now, the next games I buy will be in Spider-man and Tomb Raider. I don't drink alcohol, have a mobile phone to constantly pay for and don't drive anymore either so no vehicle costs. As such, I can buy a game as and when I want - but still wouldn't pay £40+ unless I really think the game is worth it to me.

@BAMozzy We seem to similar experiences, just your kids are a bit older.

One of the reasons I bought GoW, besides no DLC, was my 15 year old son went away on a school trip for 5 days the Tuesday after GoW released, so I knew I'd have more time to play, and I did play a whole lot more than normal those days he was away. (Still only halfway done, about 25 hours, need another 25 hours more I think.) And I did feel guilty about it, like I was happy my son was away so I had some time to myself. Probably natural feelings when kids go away to college. I'm dreading it, but also looking forward to it. Does make me feel better that I think most parents, well at least men, do look forward to some downtime after 18-20 years of being in a house with kids. But I do expect to look forward to game playing with him when he's home for the summer and holidays. We'll probably all be standing around the living room wearing PSVR headsets by then though so we might as well just play online.

Know that I know how much money you spend on games, I think I might actually spend more than you. Well as a family we do, my kids buy a lot of games that I play, or get them as gifts. And it seems like every other Christmas we get a new console, alternating between Nintedo and Sony, so we always have a system to play on. My kids still make use of offscreen play on the Wii U while the other plays on the PS3 or PS4 on the TV. Switch sadly doesn't get much use. But we get games, just hardly ever any day 1 at full price, I like BF sales and used games from Gamefly and Redbox. And our library has a small selection, but those are free.

@rjejr I still buy my youngest games and pay for his 'Gold' subscription so I do end up spending 'more' on gaming.

With online, you can still game with the 'kids' when they away - just not couch co-op. I gamed a lot with my kids when they were home but with the 360 era, that often was in different rooms rather than camping round a TV like we did in the 90's. It doesn't feel that different to me whether they are in their bedroom gaming with me or miles away.

On average I buy more than 1 game a month - if you look at the number of games I have on both XB1 and PS4 and divide by the number of months these consoles have been out but generally, its around 8 (+/- 3) 'new' releases a year with the rest of the games I buy picked up when I find them at a price I find acceptable. I still have more games in my backlog than games coming out this year I will buy.

Anyway, just watched the RDR2 trailer and its not that different from the other trailer we got. I am glad they didn't reveal too much of the story but I had hoped to see more around the game-play and mechanics, more about the activities etc but then it is only 2mins long...

@BAMozzy I bought a PS3 in my bedroom and thought I'd play w/ my kids in the living room but I tried and didn't like it. Though I've never been an online gamer, just like my offline story driven single player games. And JRPG which are also offline and story driven but not the same as Uncharted, inFamous or GoW. Maybe Id' play Splatoon 3 on Switch 2 with my kids.

All I saw in that RDR2 trailer was a 2 minute ad for Deadwood. Have you ever seen Deadwood, it was on HBO for 3 seasons several years back. Ended horribly b/c it got canceled, but the 3 seasons it was on it was really good. It was good enough that I just started watching Justified b/c Timothy Oliphant stars in both. And even though Justified isn't a western, it takes place in modern day Kentucky so ti's actually more of a hillbilly show than a western, ti still feels more like a western to me than this trailer. I'm a tough audience.

Deadwood trailer. Which is admittedly only slightly better than RDR2, mostly the same actually, just w/o the train robbery.

@rjejr I remember deadwood but never really got into it. RDR is more than its story though and for me its always been a very Single player driven game. Its a bit like Horizon:ZD in a western setting - i.e story missions but also a lot of other things you can do - be a bounty hunter, play cards, hunt etc etc. I kind of hoped the trailer would focus less on the story and more on the things you could do.

I do enjoy online gaming but I prefer single player games. The last few games I have played are games like AC: Origins, God of War, Far Cry 5, Lost Legacy as well as DLC for H:ZD, Witcher 3 etc too. Online though doesn't just mean competitive MP. Games like Far Cry 5, Gears 4, Division, Destiny etc all have online co-op where you can play the campaign together with friends/family as well as often other co-operative modes like 'Horde' modes, Raids/Strikes etc and these are things I play with my Son. The advantage of playing online is that you get a full screen image and can still chat as if your child was sat next to you.

Some games are actually better when played co-operatively - RE5 is a classic example as the AI partner is really dumb. It can be annoying having to command an AI partner to go here/there, follow you etc. Anyway, point is online doesn't have to be competitive MP and can even be story driven experiences too. Uncharted for example could have your son playing as Sam or Nadine whilst you play as Nate or Chloe.

This is getting off topic so I will leave it there but one final thing though, RDR2 could have co-operative play - you and your friends/family riding out together as a posse or gang (depending on whether you are a lawman or outlaw) with only AI in the world. It doesn't just have to be 'competitive' for its online options

@BAMozzy "RDR2 could have co-operative play"

It could. And it could even be a game if I played I really liked. I try not to judge an entire game from a trailer, learned that from being suckered into movies which had great trailers but the movies stunk, but judging just this trailer it really didn't make me excited for, or even interested in, the game. Seems like so far the hook is seeing a man's face from a previous game, and since I haven't played that game, the hook is lost on me.

If the trailers purpose is to excite previous players it's done it's job it seems. Not sure about bringing in new players though, maybe that will be the next trailer?