Stardew Valley is coming to the PlayStation Vita next week and it reminded me that Sony’s handheld still lives a relatively vibrant life over six years since its initial release. The likeable handheld has been the foot of all kinds of jibes since day one, and often it’s been the manufacturer itself delivering the punchlines – but it's remarkable just how much longevity this abject commercial flop has had.
Now don’t take my words out of context: the PS Vita obviously failed to realise its potential in many, many ways. The system was stunted by pricey memory cards, outmuscled by a resurgent Nintendo 3DS, and supported sparingly by both first-party and third-party software. In an alternate universe, maybe the system found some mainstream success and went on to garner much more support than it ultimately managed – I hope so.
And yet, I think it’s quite incredible that, in 2018, we’re still able to write about this system in the present tense. You may not realise it, but the device receives new releases almost every week, and while they’re generally uber-niche Japanese imports or no-name indies that have somehow made their way out of Slovenia, it’s really rather impressive to me.
There’s actual games on the horizon, too: Catherine’s remaster springs to mind. The removal of PlayStation Plus support in March next year will probably signal the final death knell in the PS Vita’s extraordinary lifespan, but that represents seven years of support. Seven years for a system that’s unlikely to have surpassed a 20 million unit install base.
Consider, for example, the Wii U which launched the same year as the PS Vita. It was discontinued after little over four years, and while it did get one last hurrah with the cross-gen The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, it's been cold ever since. And yet here we are, with the Nintendo system already forgotten, and Sony’s handheld still just about trucking along.
I genuinely believe that the key to the PS Vita’s longevity is how much the few people who bought it still like it. The system may have moved an embarrassing number of units, but I’m yet to find anyone who outright dislikes it. There’s disappointment about the support it got and the fact that it was never really positioned well enough to prosper – but I rarely ever hear a bad word about the console itself.
And in some ways, it’s still quite impressive what it can do. While the Nintendo fanbase complains about the Switch’s basic online feature-set, it’s impressive that the PS Vita has on-board party chat – and has had it since day one, without the need for smartphone tethers. Clearly it doesn’t matter that much in the grand scheme of things, but the console was probably ahead of its time.
It’ll be time to say goodbye to the PS Vita eventually, but given its disastrous sales figures, it feels like we should have been waving our white napkins in the device’s direction two or three years ago. That it’s still breathing today, with game announcements on our homepage, is really quite remarkable. It deserved better, but under the circumstances, I don’t think fans could have asked for much more.
Are you still playing your PS Vita? Are you surprised by the continued software support for this failed console? Knock in the final nail in the comments section below.
Do you still play your PS Vita? (186 votes)
- Yes, I play my PS Vita daily
- I boot it up at least once a week
- Hm, I dive in a few times a month at most
- I rarely touch it, but haven't abandoned it
- No, I sold my PS Vita
- Erm, I never owned one
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I barely ever touched it. Not sure why I bought it.
Way to slam Nintendrones @get2sammyb but we also cant forget portable gaming is dead and has been since smart phones exploded according to someone XD
Yeah the actual SYSTEM is great but...games.
Games. Games. Games. Games. Also those memory cards.
A system can be as great as Zues himself but without games, faling to live up to promises and slapping a great big fat barrier to it from day one just to use the damn thing was what kills a system.
If it had more games I'd be right there holding one over my Switch but...it doesnt have that. It could have, but it didnt.
@YummyHappyPills I didn't "slam" anyone or anything.
The reaon why the wii u is abandoned is because it has a successor. The wii u owners were loving any minute of it, and you can see it in the attach rates of the games and consoles.
@Zoroflamingo Okay fair enough, I guess I invited the comparison by making it in the article, but my point in the article is really more about how the Vita has had a quite impressive lifespan considering how much of a flop it was.
That's my main point.
@get2sammyb Ypu slammed the Wii U.
Kinda like everyone else circa 2014.
Still I gotta say the Vita is a neat bit of kit. It's got legs mostly in Japan though that support has to end eventually, just as 3DS is winding down.
I think the reason people wrote it off as dead a couple of years ago is because Sony stopped selling it but also stopped supporting it period. Thats usually the sign a system is done.
But like with the PS2 its got some software sales left in it. Makes you wonder what another portable would be like but then again Sony cant really divert resources between two systems especially not with PS5 on the horizon in a few years.
Like every system the Vita had some questionable decisions but managed to be a remarkable little device in the right hands.
Gaming is so weird to me.
PS Vita has games I love but no support from it's creator.
The 3DS has an excellent catalog of games I'll never play, because they're all being backlogged
The Switch is slowly becoming a disappointment with even less reason to turn it on the longer it's life goes on, despite having the best execution of the "home console games on the go" shtick I've wanted for so long.
Is a portable PlayStation that can play my PS4 games too much to ask for?! I'd drop any ludicrous amount of money to play these great first party games Switch-style.
@CK97 Digital Foundry just did an article about that, and honestly no. The system wouldn't be all that portable, performance would be sub standard and the battery life would be awful.
@YummyHappyPills To be fair, what he said wasn't exactly inaccurate. The Wii U is dead, and let's be honest, it pretty much always has been. Its install base is quite abysmal.
@CK97 Are you talkin' Remote Play? That's one of the features the PSVita launched with that I couldn't wait to try out, only to be horribly disappointed (games awkward to control, poor streaming quality).
Recently, tho, I figured out how to fix all my problems and got an (almost) perfectly working setup:
TO FIX THE CONTROLS: Get a Hori grip attachment ($40, and only for the non-OLED PSVita Slim I think), which adds 2 sets of triggers (for L2/R2 and L3/R3) over the rear touchpad. DO NOT get a different one, since only Hori has L3/R3! Also, get some stick extenders ($20-50) so those little nubs can have a bit more precision. I should note that many games have a custom PSVita control scheme (that you can't change), so there's a distinct lack of consistency when it comes to how the L2/R2 and L3/R3 buttons are re-mapped. Most games, however, don't bother to change the default scheme (which maps said buttons to the back touchscreen) and that's where the Hori grip works perfectly. Lastly, there's an "Accessibility > Controls" submenu on the PS4 that lets you remap buttons (i.e. swap L1/R1 with L2/R2) but most games override your settings, unfortunately.
NETWORK SETUP: If you have an original PS4, make sure it's connected via ethernet (or plug it into a $60-$80 wifi range extender that outputs at 5GHz if your PS4 isn't near an ethernet jack). I had mine on Wifi, which is 2.4GHz speed on the original model, and that is NO BUENO. The Slim and Pro PS4s all have 5 GHz by default. Your results with the connection will vary greatly (whether you play around your home, or use your phone as a wireless hotspot), but in my case, I'm able to even play games online with minimal lag (fighting games and even twitch shooters like COD).
@CK97 You'd be dropping a ludicrous amount of money for something the size of a rather beefy laptop or something the size of a Switch that immediately uses all its battery and melts into your hand.
And I didn't need DF to come to that conclusion sadly. That's just the laws of physics and technology at this moment in time.
@KirbyTheVampire Yeah, very true. At least the Vita didn't trail off as fast.
Might be worth looking at why Japanese developers clung to one but not the other then I remember "Oh yeah, portable"
Say what you want about the Wii U, Nintendo supported it from beginning to end. Sony dropped the Vita like a hot potato...
@Zoroflamingo The Wii U was (is) not a bad console when it comes to first party games, but it was abandoned by Nintendo because it didn't do very well.
Nintendo wouldn't have let it go so soon, if it had had any kind of real commercial succes.
The Vita on the other hand didn't have that many great first party titles, but have more or less survived on third party support for the last 4 years or so (and it does have many good to great more unknown games - especially in the action games, fighting games and JRPG genres - which is probably why it's still popular among a decently large core of fans).
Warning remember no game port begging here.
Right, I get the article mentions the Wii U, but let's remember where we are. Sammy was just using it as a reference point — doesn't mean we have to drown the comments section in "ACTUALLY the Wii U was a VERY GOOD console".
Either we stay on topic and keep the comments primarily about the Vita, or you get banned and also lose the privilege of spending time talking about NES games over on Donkey Kong Life.
P.S. Very good article Sammy.
It's awesome that the Vita 's still being supported in 2018 - long after many people had already completely written it off.
It's an awesome piece of kit. I've professed my love for it before and shall do it again. It's beautifully designed, and that OLED screen is absolutely gorgeous. It's still better than the Switch's screen. The form factor is nice and it's size, curved edges and button placement are comfortable for my arthritic hands (the 3DS is sometimes torture). Not sure where this notion of the Vita having no games comes from, because the library is great. People may be surprised if they take the time to explore the games it has. I also enjoy the digital PSP and PS1 Classics compatibility. I still use my PSP for most games as they are on UMD, but I also have a sizeable number of digital PSP games. Playing them on the Vita is considerably more convenient.
It's easily one of my favourite handhelds of all time. In terms of future releases I'm looking forward to Persona 3/5 Dancing, if they get localised. I'll be getting Stardew Valley too.
As soon as you mention Nintendo people get their knickers in a twist, god knows why their so sensitive.
@ShadowWarrior Seems like a Spyro level.
once i looked at the list of NA games and saw there was nothing i was interested in playing that i couldn't play on PS4. never bought one.
If one includes the Vita TV in this conversation, then mine is red-hot in my recent backlog overdrive clean-up. Mind you I use it for PSP and Vita exclusives...exclusively.
My Vita was stolen from my bag at work a few years ago, still bums me out to this day. My Persona 4 save file gone....ah I need to have a lay down.
@YummyHappyPills are you drunk.who mention switch in here.word up son
@playstation1995 I wish I was drunk. Then I could imagine this is a Vita in my hand.
In sympathy esquire
Play an hour a day, five days a week. Got a 28 game back log and another two dozen on my wish list. Figure I'll be playing mine for the next 10 years.
@get2sammyb
Very good article. While I rarely play my vita anymore, I do occasionally boot it up for the 'handheld experience'.
I really feel like it would have thrived had it had more games support. Everytime I boot up the latest Madden I always wish I could play it on the vita. So much potential...
The reason the Wii U crashed and burned like it did while the Vita keeps trucking along is likely because the Vita, weirdly, gets pretty consistent indie and Japanese third party support. The Wii U pretty much only had Nintendo after the first few years.
Also, the Vita developed a distinct and somewhat obsessive fanbase that buys pretty much everything that comes to Vita.
While I prefer the library on the 3DS (my all-time favorite video game system so far in my 25+ years of gaming), the Vita has been a durable and unique piece of hardware that I've enjoyed greatly over the years. It's actually still my favorite current-gen Sony system!
The back touchscreen was a mistake, though.
@Ralizah and banned.
I never bought one but honestly kind of want one. What is a reasonable price for one?
I like my vita, even when there's drought of games before the indie renaissance on it, I still like it and didn't want to sell it. The system is just too beautifull to play games on, from the amazing oled screen and the perfect size, it was a joy to play games on it. Now I keep it to play ps1, psp, and indie games.
Sony makes amazing portable devices, usually I sold my old stuff after buying the new one (phones, consoles, or headphones) since I don't like to clutter my room, but after buying the vita, I still keep my psp, and I don't plan to sell my vita.
I think sony should use portables as legacy system to play old ps games on it, I'll buy ps vita 2 or psp 3 if it can play ps1, ps2, ps3, and ps4 indie games. Just add sdcard support and oled screen on it
I think the difference with nintendo console is, the wii u is a badly designed console while the vita is a greatly designed portables. It was a joy to play on the vita, while it was a chore to play on wii u. After playing the exclusives, I sold my wii u because it just cluttering my tv cabinet, I hope nintendo port all wii u good games on switch.
I never bought one, but if I can find a nice one for under $100 I would buy it
I never had a PS Vita, but everyone I know that owns the portable really loves the device. I'm not into portable gaming. It looks like that many developers also love Vita, recently Yoko Taro said that he would love another portable made by Sony. Many indie developers like Vita as well.
And never chance Nintendo fans. ^^
I said this before in other Vita articles, but the darn thing never really caught my interest. I’m not really a Sony handheld guy. I’ll always take the console though. I have a 3DS and a Switch for my handheld needs, but PS4 is still my go to system this generation. I don’t see that changing any time soon.
@Ichiban ugh, sorry to hear that. That sucks
@Antdickens probably wouldn't appreciate that insult towards his other website @ShogunRok.
That said I'm also very surprised by Vita's longevity, especially in the western hemisphere where so few people purchased one.
@ReanSchwarzer7 And I am sure @ShogunRok doesn't appreciate every comment section turning into a Nintendo cryfest.
I own a Switch, but the Vita is still my go to handheld.
When I pack by bag for work the Vita always comes with me.
I have such a massive Vita backlog that there is a real possibility that it will outlive me lol.
Can't wait for Catherine Full Body, Persona 3 Dancing Moon Night and Persona 5 Dancing Star Night!
SEGA putting in work!!
It really amazing how long it lasted, now if only all the visual novels weren’t Otome and a few for guys that aren’t about fanservice happened. I haven’t played it in a while except for like 20 min of Gravity Rush while I tried to remember the story after about 4 years exactly of not playing it. I’ll play more when I play a portable game again.
@Neolit Sony DIDN'T stick with the Vita, though. Once it was clear, very early on, that the Vita wasn't competitive in the Western market, they dropped it like a hot rock and funneled almost all of their resources into developing for the PS4. Almost the same thing Nintendo eventually did, much later on, with the Wii U: at some point, it was clear that resources were being directed toward the development of 3DS and so-called "NX" titles.
I think the bigger problem with the Vita beyond the (admittedly insane) proprietary memory cards was the lack of anything to really drive sales. Spectacle-driven franchises like Uncharted don't really work as well on handhelds, which are necessarily underpowered in comparison to their home console brethren, and they never found anything that made a lot of sense for the mainstream handheld market. Nothing like Animal Crossing or Pokemon to really push sales.
With the b*otching Of that Taboo company’s fanboys maybe they shouldn’t just be mentioned
The Vita I think is a nice device w a nice library even if Sony thinks it’s the equivalent of poop...
I haven't touched it much recently, but every now and then I'll get the urge to restart a game. I actually got Super Monkey Ball: Banana Splitz a few weeks ago on Humble for a mere $1. I haven't liked any of the Monkey Ball games after Super Monkey Ball 2 but this one is actually pretty solid. While I don't play it as much anymore, I still love my VITA and want to collect a few more games for it. Long live the VITA!
If only they bundled it with ps4. I think it would have prospered I many ways.
Never got around to buying one, my stationary console was enough. I also could not afford to buy games on this systems as well.
These days however, I've become interested in buying a handheld and this is still my favoutite choice, there's a large number of Japanese games I'd want to play on it.
I bought a Vita in 2015 thinking it was dead and buried but interested in the library. Since then, I would say I have used it the most out of all my handhelds. Battery life on the slim is great, screen is awesome and it fits in my bag. I have a huge backlog and it is still growing. Oddly I have been put off Star dew Valley, even for Switch but for some reason the vita version entices me. The vita is in my work bag on most trips. Possibly my most used handheld since the OG Gameboy.
@get2sammyb Thank you so much for this excellent article. It was cery clear what you were trying to say, just ignore the trolls.
Honestly, when my wife bought my vita back in 2013, whilst i liked the console, i thought it would be a passing distraction at best. Roll on to 2018, and over the past 5 years i can with no hesitation say that the vita has become one of my favourite consoles of all time. I still play almost every day. I have over 40 physical games, and over 200 digital games for it. I have filled 2 64gb cards, a 32 gb card, a 16 gb card and an 8 gb card and still dont have space for everyrhing i own or would like to own. So the story that vita has no games is boring and wrong. Did it get the support from Sony or Western developers it deserved? Absolutely not (the cancellations of an infamous game and a sequel to golden abyss sting), but the breadth and quality of titles is outstanding from vita.
From japanese curios, to being my preferred format for 8bit style pixel art indie titles (which i cant bring myself to play on a big screen), the experiences i have had have been incredible. The console opened me up to games and genres that i would have never consodered previously - Steins;Gate and visual novels as a genre more widely? Absolutely perfect on vita. And then there are games i would just rather play on vita. Im currently playng danganronpa 3, and its just perfect for the handeld. Playing through titles like final fantasy x, persona 4 etc while my wife is watching tele? Beautiful. Commuting to work and having a rich, diverse library of games to play at my fingertips is just wonderful. I will be travelling to lisbon later this week, and it wont be my ps4 thats in my bag.
The vita just suits my lifestyle, and im sad to know it is probably reaching the end of its life releases wise. But that said i still have around 12 games on the horizon that i am looking forward to - persona 3 and 5 dancing, rainbow skies, catherine, shakedown hawaii among others; and still have a long list of games like reverie i want to pick up.
And my vita will never die. Honestly, i could be playing for ten years more and still not get through my backlog of games. I mean i am talking huge titles like ys 9, trails of cold steel 2, tokyo xanadu, digimon cybersleuth, final fantasy x2.
And when i have the urge i will pick up more ps1 and psp titles from the store in what is the ultimate retro machine.
Honestly, i cant thank the vita enough or love it more than i do. For reconnecting me with games i lived from my childhood like day of the tentacle, to introducing me to series like persona, ys, trails of cold steel, danganronpa - i will forever be grateful. And the experiences on beasts like killzone mercenary - a truly stunning piece of work from guerilla cambridge - will not be forgotten
I assume the Vita isn't really profitable, so I think Sony hasn't completely abandoned it only cause they don't want to upset fans. It's difficult to compete with today's smartphones, especially with this outdated hardware, and there aren't really good exclusives as in the case of Switch
I've had my vita since day 1. A cracking handheld, in fact I think its one of the best. I still use it a couple of times a week. I want to buy a new one, just in case my old one dies, but it is impossible to buy a new one anywhere in the UK.
@Spectra The thing is, they did support it with games. It got some of the best support they have offered to any of their devices, at least early on.
In the first year alone we had an Uncharted, Gravity Rush, Wipeout and even Little Big Planet. Then they tried Soul Sacrifice, Freedom Wars, Killzone and Tearaway. All of them fantastic. But no matter what they released, the audience wasn't responding. So they scrapped their plans with several games they were planning on making, like an infamous game. It didn't help that reviewers were incredibly harsh with it deducting points from each game for not looking as good as a ps3 game. It clearly didn't work as an investment so they chose to support 3rd parties to decrease the costs.
As for why it failed, it's incredibly complicated. It wasn't due to games, it wasn't due to memory cards, smart phones, or anything else alone.
Whether most people like to admit it or not, they are sheep. They follow trends, they buy what's cool, hence the success of iphones.
Before the vita even launched in the west, there was article after article on how terrible it was and how it'd do so badly that there was no reason to bring it to the west. Unfortunately, it wasn't seen as a cool console to own like the ps4 or wii back in the day.
I read countless comments of people saying they were waiting for a price cut, since the 3ds got a huge one after a few months of not doing well. Those who waited never actually bought one because it got that price cut so late they had lost all interest in it.
Psvita's biggest downfall was losing Monster Hunter. On the day it launched MH was released on 3ds and people went crazy how the vita couldn't compete with 3ds even at its launch. That's where all the negativity started. That's when it became not cool owning one.
The Switch could have been an equally massive failure and people would have come up with all sorts of reasons why it failed, but Ninty played their cards right. It didn't have that negativity and its initial strong numbers made it into a hot item that your friends had so you need one too.
@Eran not strictly the case, but you arnt wrong. On the face of it, vita has not been a sales success for Sony. But it is certainly profitable. The reason vita still gets games to this day is because there is a hungry and passionate fanbase for the system and so the attach rate for titles is extremely high. And because games being released these days are smaller in scale, they dont cost as much to make. Im pretty sure the developer of reverie said they needed only 10,000 sales to turn a profit. Alot of independent devs have found a home on the vita and are doing very well out of it
Well in the last few months I’ve been on A buying spree of physical Vita games I’ve been meaning to get spending over £500 (I decided to get as many as I can before games get ridiculously expensive as they are mostly special edition or limited production).
Some of the games I recently bought Axiom Multiverse, Castle Castllia, Undertale, Shante, Velocity 2x, few Limited run games, Japanese DRPGs (Demon Gaze 1 & 2, Mary Skelter etc), Yvs (Origin, Celseta, VIII)...and a few more that I won’t bore you with.
I still have a number of games yet to get that I really want - Reverie is out this week for pre-order, Rainbow Skies, God of War, Ratchet Trilogy,
It is surprising how well physical Vita games keep their value but the reason I collect physical is because I love them in my collection and the Vita is such a cool machine. Even contemplating buying a second one (the neon orange model is gorgeous and would complement my launch day OLED machine).
There's loads of reasons why Vita failed, but to be fair to the little guy, it's got a fantastic library of games. There's billions. Well, loads. I suppose if you want big blockbusters you're kinda out of luck, but I play a lot of weird visual novels and old games and JRPGs so it tickled my fancy for a while.
The best thing about the Wii U was that since Nintendo never price dropped it, when I traded mine in I got good money for it. Thrifty.
I love my Vita - still play it a few times a week! I really enjoy random niche Japanese games so for me the Vita has been a great system. I still have a pretty hefty Vita backlog to play though so can't see me stopping anytime soon
@get2sammyb no problem, just me reacting like a fanboy. Sorry about that.😬
Seriously though where's my biscuit?
I bought a second hand Vita this year and I absolutely love it!
@JoeBlogs I'm 3 trophies away from the platinum but Hard mode is really... well... hard. Armspin is my preferred style.
@Ichiban thats awful. Screw that person. Did you ever buy a new one?
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The 4 best games on the system and more than enough reason to pick one up. Great little system. Great article Sammy.
I love my Vita but it's massively underused. Mainly because I seem to have lost my 32gig memory card and I begrudge paying the ridiculous prices for a new one. As all my Vita games are digital, it's practically useless without a memory card.
My other main issues are the lack of L2/R2, L3/R3 and the tiny analogue buttons.
However, I love that you can stream pretty much all PS4 games though. The ability to play games like No Man's Sky and Horizon Zero Dawn on Vita still blows my mind.
That Sony made that feature a basic requirement for pretty much all PS4 games is very commendable. It's an overlooked feature of one of the cool benefits of owning both Vita and PS4.
@JJ-Firl @JoeBlogs How do you guys get so good at downwell. Lol i think i have only been able to get as far as level 2!!
I fire mine up now and again. I'd never sell it because me and that little beaut of a handheld have had some good memories. I still remember the day I got it and a little game called Gravity Rush was free on the PS store...
Great little console.
I am slowly building up a good library. Second hand games are so cheap at the moment.
@Rob_230 Vita sells a few hundred units each month in Europe & U.S and a few thousand units in Japan. I could be wrong but these numbers don't sound like something that justifies financially to continue manufacture the device. Btw don't forget that next year Sony will cease giving free Vita games to Plus subscribers, so looks like this device is (unsurprisingly) dying soo
Imagine how well the Vita could have done if the Vita's memory cards were readily available and as cheap as real memory cards. Also to be fair.. I play my Vita about as much as I play my Switch. Both, I think are really neat pieces of kit, but.. there is just not much on it that I want to play beyond the 2 big games I bought for the switch (Zelda, Mario), and the depressing condition of deleting games off my Vita memory card in order to download more - which also stupidly deletes your saved data.
@Rob_230 @JoeBlogs I prefer Armspin style because you only find gun modules in the side rooms so you can stack up on HP and charges. Shops are rare so you save the gems you get from killing enemies to buy HP in the shops when they do appear. And, indeed, the sooner you can get knife and fork the better.
The final boss is really something else, though! Once you figure out his attack pattern you can anticipate but it took me countless efforts to beat him. And then, when you think you mastered the game, there is hard mode to kick you and your gunboots back to the ground.
Such an addictive, unforgiving little game...
I've been tempted to buy a second hand Vita for a while now. Would be great for remote play, but just not overly sure how well it works?
i still play my Vita i have a few games for it like Uncharted Golden Abyss for example but i also use it for some on the go Final Fantasy
i have FF1, FF3, FF6, FF7, FF8, FF9 and FF10 on there and for when i'm not able to use my consoles it gives me my fix
not to mention remote play, it's not a perfect function but sometimes it's handy
I loved my PSP shame it was also dropped of support within its short lifespan, one game I loved on that system was Key of Heaven man that was a good game
@Kidfried You could probably get one cheap these days, and the games are peanuts in PSN sales.
@Party_Cannon I honestly don’t think cheaper memory cards would have made a massive difference to be honest. It would have helped, but not much.
I just don’t think this product was ever going to be a success, sadly.
I liked it so much I bought two 3G Vitas, one with 64 GB and one with 32 GB.
I played over one thousand hours on Destiny of Spirits alone and have over 225 games for it, about 50 of which I still haven't played.
Love my Vita. Period.
I still have my day one vita sitting on my desk as I type. Fantastic console, just not supported by Sony. Shame.
With Sony's track record with the Move and Vita, this is one reason why I will not invest money in the VR (at the moment, that is before people start hating ).
As for the WiiU @get2sammyb, Nintendo have a track record of forgetting about past consoles the moment a new one comes out. The only time they look in the past is the countless re-releases of Super Mario Bro!
The price of the memory cards killed the Vita for me. I bought a Vita a few years ago and enjoyed a few games on it. The price for the memory cards and the fact I am not a handheld gamer I sold it to a friend of mine. Then I bought a PSTV for remote play mainly but again sold it as none of the games clicked with me. While it's not a bad system it just wasn't for me.
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@get2sammyb I completely agree with your article, the Vita is a great little console and it's nice to see its still getting some new game announcements, it's frustrating to know it had so much more potential though, i always wanted dedicated Vita games in series like Ratchet & Clank, Ape Escape, Syphon Filter etc but alas, it wasn't to be.
If we could go back in time i'd have said Sony should have created a new, large first party studio dedicated only to making Vita games a year or so before it released, a studio that could work on two games at a time, so we'd have gotten at least one new exclusive per year, that way when all the other devs shifted to PS4 development we would have still got some first party love for the Vita.
Ah well, it has still seen its fair share of classics, i adored Tearaway, Golden Abyss, Gravity Rush, Unit 13 etc
@ShogunRok I don't think it's right that you only warn certain people, members like playstation1995 and PS_Nation often make inflammatory and troll comments aimed to stir trouble, yet the mods on here let them get away with it, as soon as they get what they want and get the backs up of Nintendo and Microsoft fans, you jump on their comments like a ton of bricks, if you really want to stop the bickering on the comments section on this site, you'd do something about them as well as the Nintendo/MS fans. There's off-topic and/or troll comments from both sides, is what i'm trying to say.
I loved my Vita, especially up until Tearaway/Killzone after which no more AAA games were released.
Ended up selling it though as it became mostly unused.
Sony nailed the hardware. Is just a shame it was largely unsupported.
I brought my ps vita day 1. It has travelled the world with me. An is in my work bag today. An i will play 1-2hours after work while waiting to meet up with my gf.
I have a switch, ps4. An the ps vita still get alot love.
I can see me playing until 2020. So if i get 8 years from a system. Then that amazing.
So many great games came to the vita. Stein;gate, personas4, cold steel are my gaming highlights.
@Toadie That is because @ShogunRok is known for overreacting to simple things like a conversation.
@Toadie For the record I don't let anyone get away with anything. So please don't accuse me otherwise.
@Tasuki I'm only commenting on what i have seen, the MS/Nintendo bashing is on many threads, often totally unrelated to the articles they are posted on, i haven't once seen anyone pulled up on them being 'off topic', whereas people defending MS/Nintendo (mainly the latter) have often been told to keep on topic.
@Link41x Bang out of order and Robert is an actual real person who is an amazing gamer and writer. He doesnt over react at all.
@Toadie its a Playstation fansite. If you want play multiplatform go to a multiplatform site.
@themcnoisy Exactly, i come on here to read PS news so why is there even all these mentions of the other two ? You need to tell that to the people constantly bringing up Microsoft and Nintendo in negative ways on totally unrelated posts, look back over my comments and you'll see that i mainly do stay on topic on most threads, the weekly sales posts are the main exception, but that naturally is a broader topic.
@Toadie With all due respect most modding actions a normal user doesn't see/hear about as quite honestly it's not the public's business that is between the mod and the user. But you can rest assured that I treat everyone equal be them a Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, Sega or whatever fan.
@Tasuki For the record i didn't make my comment to start a big argument, nor do i want to start one, i just think you should know how some people who use the site feel, i've seen others saying the same thing over on NL so i'm not alone, as a gamer who owns more than just Playstation products i find this site hostile at times, not something you would want your readers to feel surely ?
Edit Just seen your last comment, that's good to hear mate, i think some of your colleagues should follow your example lol
I've still got mine, but rarely use it. Haven't bought a game for it in years, and only really keep it for the few games I did buy, and Remote Play with the PS4.
I'm a huge Sony fan, but if there's one thing they've done which really hacks me off, it's the way they abandoned the Vita. It's an utterly superb system, with some truly stunning games - titles which even the high-end smartphones of today can't match.
The price of the memory cards was high, true, but it didn't bother me. With the promise of 'home console' quality games, I bought the largest (32GB) and looked forward to filling it up. And titles like Golden Abyss did show that it was capable of living up to that promise.
Then support from Sony just... stopped. And of course, if the system creator isn't going to bother supporting the it, no-one else is either. It's hard to believe they went through all that trouble and expense of designing such a great system, only to give up on it completely a few years later. Very poor show. They've removed a number of features, and I'm surprised they still bother maintaining the Vita version of the PS Store if I'm honest.
I don't know if Sony are considering ever releasing another hand-held system, but they should think twice. I was made a PlayStation fan by the PS1, which I bought some time after it was launched... and have bought every system since the PS2 on launch day; I am the traditional "early adopter" type which companies target when releasing a new system. But unless it offered something truly exceptional, there is no way I would touch another Sony hand-held until it had been around a few years and was still getting support. I'm sure I can't be the only person who feels this way.
@Toadie Nah it's ok I realize you didn't make it to start an argument, my apologies if I came off rude or disrespectful. I didn't meant to sound like an attack or anything. I was just mainly stating a fact for those that do think I just let people get away with stuff. I will admit yeah some may slip by me as I am only one person and I have other things in my life, work, family and of course gaming to tend with other then the site but I assure everyone it's not cause I am slacking off or letting people get away with anything.
@Tasuki No you didn't come across like that to me, i'm sorry if i sounded like i was on the attack, i also want to say that i've seen plenty of people deliberately bringing up Nintendo etc when they shouldn't so i'm in no way trying to say it's all one way.
I realise that with my profile pic i could be seen as a fanboy or whatever as well but i genuinely do own all three consoles and flip between them constantly, in fact i've used my PS4 more this year than any of my other consoles, i've been hooked on Bloodborne, Neon Chrome, Hob and Rime in particular, i just happened to find/join NL first and it was easier to just use the same profile when i found this site than start a new one up lol
@Link41x @Toadie And we're still off topic. This is why I have to put my foot down — if I don't this is exactly what happens. Let's leave it there, please.
@Toadie Nah you didn't, it's all good. And no using the same profile here that you do on NL is the right thing to do. Because we share the same user pool as NL against the rules to make another account only one account per user. I honestly believe that's were part of the problem lies is the fact that we are connected by the same network. Yes it is convenient and helps build a United gamer experience so to speak but at the same time it opens the door up for user attacks and unnecessary trolling which to be honest makes my job difficult at times.
For example because you have a Nintendo Avatar anything you say negative about Sony some jerk may accuse you of being a fanboy even if your not and you are speaking the truth. It's just one of those cases that the person can't handle the truth so they attack you.
Likewise because we are connected it makes trolling a bit easier here too from both sides. Of some over zealous NL Nintendo fan wanted too they could just easy come over here sign in like they would at NL and then start trolling and vice versa. Where as if they had to make a whole other account it may disway them.
It also makes banning accounts somewhat of a pain since as @ShogunRok stated if you get banned here you are also banned from NL. I have had cases where people are nice friendly respectful over at NL but are complete jerks here forcing us to ban them from both sites even though they have done nothing wrong on NL. But that's just how it is.
But yeah you didn't come off that way and don't worry about your avatar.
Vita couldve been so different. The initial model obviously had its shortcomings ... awful memo cards and 4(!!??) buttons less than what had been industry standard for 20 years, making remote play far from ideal!! Great news though, they announced a revised model ... surely they'll address these issues which would be sooooo easy to rectify. Nope, no buttons to improve PS4 remote play (which was a big feature being heavily advertised) making some games completely unplayable. They then remove the tasty OLED screen (the best feature) ... Oh ... and those greedy corporate fat cats continued with their cynical memo card policies ... the self inflicted coup de gras!! Still makes me angry!! Vita owners are ultimately paying for Sony's greed/incompetence. Wouldve flown off the shelves if they had made it micro sd compatible!!
I still play it, have the Capcom arcade PSP collections on there, and games like 99 Vidas and EDF are are good to pick up and play. I even bought a PSTV, which at 40 quid new wasnt too bad to play those games on the TV. Shame so many games didnt support it, really. I also use remote play on the Vita. Glad to see new games are still being released and I still make the odd purchase, the sales tend to be really cheap.
@get2sammyb given the news just coming out from Kotaku this article aged like milk in the sun...
No more physical games for Vita. Final purchase orders by February 15th, all product code requests by June 28th 2018.
@YummyHappyPills Not really, the article’s point remains exactly the same. I talked about the removal of PS Plus games being the final death knell in the article, and the physical games will cease manufacturing a couple of weeks before that.
Seven years, like I said in the article.
I’ve not bothered reading the article!! But for the life of me I can’t understand why the wii u is coming into the conversation in comparison to the vita!
The greif I got for owning a Wii U is the same that Vita owners get.
Great devices, poorly managed.
But who cares what other people think.
@Boxmonkey Perhaps you should read the article
I love my vita, if I'm not playing it directly I will be using it to remote play my ps4. I'll be sad to see support stop. But to be honest, if developers had put the time into it, I think it would be a very different situation. I love playing RE Revelations 2 on there, and that shows the potential this console has! Heck, even adding more ps2 classics on there would have helped.
I love the Vita, I think it's had some excellent support and games, just not from the places a lot of people expected.
I would like to see Sony release another eventually.
I bought an OLED VITA just last month. I love an under dog, which is why I love my Wii U and GameCube too. I’ve bought 3 16GB memory cards, this seems like enough to store stuff on without it costing too much. I was flabbergasted at the price of the memory cards though! At least with the PSP you can get an adapter for a few quid to use Micro SD cards.
I’ve only bought a few games for the VITA. The price of the physical games, even second hand, is very high. So I’ve only bought what appear to be the best ones. I reckon the VITA will be the first console where I own more digital games than physical ones. I’m always keeping an eye on PSN for VITA games going on sale!
As a Nintendo fan myself, I didn't see anything wrong with the Wii U comment and have no idea why that stirred up such a hornet's nest. The Wii U did terrible, that's a known fact.
As for the Vita, I've always had an interest in the handheld but it seems Sony always found some way to ruin it and kill all of my interest in it. For example, the oft-cited memory card issue. No one was happy about that and Sony's greed got the better of them, clearly. Then you have the fact your PSP games won't run on it. That's fine, but again, Sony got greedy and offered the option to download the games you probably already own from the shop as a "compromise". Yeah. No. Even if I were willing to do so, the shop actually lacks some games I'd love to play on Vita due to the 2nd analog stick, but alas, those games aren't available on the shop, once again killing ALL my interest. At this rate, the only reason I'd even consider buying a Vita is for Persona 4: Golden. if it weren't for the indie developers, the Vita would have even less games to choose from due to how Sony didn't really support it that much.
Overall, The Vita had the makings of a good handheld, but Sony botched it.
I still have my launch edition, but the battery is getting rough on that thing.
I'm certainly ready for a new handheld system though. PSP2 plz.
Hmm. I was actually thinking of buying a 2nd hand Vita... mainly just to play Castlevania Symphony of the Night. And maybe Metal Gear Solid 2. Should I?
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