Sony has just announced its plans for next month's E3 showcase, and it doesn't seem like we'll be getting a traditional press conference from the platform holder. Instead, PlayStation is choosing to highlight four upcoming titles through livestreams on 11th June.
Those four games are Death Stranding, Ghost of Tsushima, Spider-Man, and The Last of Us: Part II. Shawn Layden took to the PlayStation Blogcast to state that there will be third-party announcements, but they won't take place on a Sony stage.
We've been ever so slightly sceptical of a Sony conference at this year's E3, and it seems like those fears have rung true. With the vast majority of Sony's internal studios already working on announced games, there simply isn't much left to reveal.
How do you feel about this? Spread the disappointment in the comments below.
Update (15:30 BST): New information via the PlayStation Blog makes this sound like a more traditional affair than originally anticipated, so frankly we haven't got a clue what's going on. The whole thing will unfold from 18:00 PT on 11th June.
Update (18:30 BST): A live audience will be in attendance at the showcase.
[source twitter.com]
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Bold and daring. They don't need to do much there do they?
Absolutely colossal bummer, but I've felt like it's been coming for a few days now. I can only hope they're trying to manage expectations that they'll then blow away, but realistically I don't think that's the case.
Yes these games are big enough to attract plenty of attention on their own, and I'm excited to see more of them. But I'm not sure why they couldn't pull together a more traditional conference to present them in; they're going to get absolutely trounced in terms of excitement generation this show.
I'm shocked but hopefully it means a bigger PSX.
that sound not good to me. we don't need to know more info about Spider-Man on E3. no new games for first party games belong to Sony ?
Waaaaaw!! I know that the Walmart leak was big i didbt expect it to turn Sony into Nintendo Direct!
Joking aside im a bit disappointed. I always look forward to Sony's E3 press event the most. Looks like it will just be PSX-Lite. Guess this rules out any PS5 reveal rumours.
Not gonna lie, I totally forgot Ghost of Tsushima was a thing.
@get2sammyb It's a bit of a slap in the face to the likes of Dreams, Concrete Genie, Wild, Ace Combat 7, Erica, Medieval Remaster, and pretty much all PSVR stuff. There's no platform for these games now.
YO! Nintendo spearheaded the future!? Is Microsoft gonna be the only on stage of the Big 3!?
These Livestreams gonna be the new standard!?
i'm not disappointed as this will allow them to show alot of gameplay and other info for these 4 games.
however this will ofcourse open the door for anti sony people to call sony all sorts of names and claim that sony was scared or is getting reduntand etc. i can see the xbox people already shouting that they have won the E3. (not realy an accomplishment if your biggest rival isn't holding a conference)
oh well,a bummer but not the worst thing that could happen on e3.
That's pretty disappointing, but at least GoT will get some shine rather than being lost in the fray
Guess i can skip sonys conference then.
@LiamCroft it probably means those games will be the "Stars" of other gaming events like Paris Games week or GamesCon. At least i hope so.
They not showing gameplay video for Shenmue 3 ? 3rd party announcement make me think they reveal DMC 5, RE 2 remake and other games.. they not showing E3 gameplay video for RDR 2 ?
@3Above You'd think that at least half of those games should already be released by the time Gamescom/PGW comes around though, right?
@adf86 this is what i was thinking, i think PSX is more important than E3 to Sony now
and with never getting a good time slot added to the fact many publishers are putting on their own shows Sony probably thought it wasn't worth it
@LiamCroft I hadn't even thought about PSVR, you're right. They can get in the sea, I'm fuming!
Absolutely crap, get in the sea Sony. If this is Sid Shuman and the lads sitting on a sofa for two hours I'll be raging.
@get2sammyb will they show gameplay video for RDR 2, RE 2 remake, DMC 5 during Sony E3 conference ? Shenmue 3 ?
I do think that E3 has lost its appeal. It's biggest factor is that its the first major expo of the year and with EA and MS moving away from the site - even if they have a presence on the floor, its indicative that E3 is not the attraction it once was to their clients.
We still have Gamescom which is much more aimed at the target audience of Sony as well as Paris, Tokyo and of course PSX too. Its not as if Sony has a lot of 'New' products - like a PS5, Vita 2 etc to announce before releasing in a few months time and we saw Sony make those announcements (PS4 Slim and Pro for example) at their own press conference.
In the world of the internet, E3 is now almost redundant. Its primarily a 'press' event - although does open up for a handful (relatively) actual gamers - a chance for 'Press' to get demo's, hands on etc
Gamescom is more important - especially with VR where you want actual gamers, the people that will buy games and peripherals rather than Press who may get 'freebies' to review, to get actual hands on.
My main concern is that it hands the big 3rd party game announcments to MS which doesn't help from a brand pov
It's a bluff, a giant robotic Knack is going to crash through the screens at the back halfway through the press conference and announce a ton of new games
@Gremio108 We can dream.
@get2sammyb AHEM
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2017/04/soapbox_sony_should_pinch_the_nintendo_direct_format
And E3 continues to slowly sink into irrelevance, with two of the big three foregoing big press conferences this year.
Well, it's fine. Nintendo managed to salvage E3 2016 by focusing almost solely on one game, so why shouldn't Sony be able to generate excitement with four big upcoming exclusives?
Definitely looking forward to seeing what Ghosts of Tsushima actually looks like. And, hey, maybe we'll get actual gameplay of Death Stranding this time!
@ShogunRok 1 hour interview with Kinda Funny incoming...
@Ralizah if they release another trailer for Ghosts of Tsushima and Death Stranding instead gameplay video : that's major disappointing. i don't need to see another trailers. we need see gameplay video to see what they look like
@LiamCroft And even then Kinda Funny got Kinda boring when Colin left.
Horrendous decision. Hopefully MS takes advantage of this, hits it out of the park at this E3 and we get some real competition again. Complacent Sony is back and I hate complacent Sony.
@porhawj2016 Given Sony is focusing only on these four games, not showing actual gameplay footage would be disastrous
Nothing wrong with this, Nintendo has successfully abandoned the traditional conference, and Microsoft has even been toying with the idea with things like Inside Xbox. E3 in general has become less important anyway with the rise of other events.
@get2sammyb Also to quote you: " It'll probably just get a new trailer. If people can't cope with three minutes of an upcoming, blockbuster game then maybe they shouldn't be watching E3 pressers to begin with."
Looks like a lot more than 3 minutes. :/
This...honestly sucks. 4 games spread throughout the day gets each game a lot of time, true. But its also 4 games we already knew about, 2 of which have had heavy E3 presence for two previous years, two of which get gameplay reveals which is SWEET.
But we run into the same problem we did last year. It's E3 2016 again, E3 2017 again.
I mean it'll be as I said, a solid if unremarkable showing. No surprises.
@Gamer83 told you this would happen eventually...
A bit disappointing tbh. Sony, while not as intoxicating as Ubisoft, has been on a roll with E3s in the few years since I've started watching them. Hopefully, they can manage to pull off the surprises or make it entertaining like Ninty do with their Direct E3 thing.
I'm ok with this. Means we'll get to see more of those 4 titles (and sweet jesus those 4 titles) and still get new announcements from third party.
@Gamer83 What because they skip one conference? Come off it. I'm disappointed too but Sony will have had good reason, remember people complained last year cos of the lack of big reveals, maybe that's played into their thinking.
Besides it gives MS the chance to use more 3rd party games to hide their lack of exclusives.
@Gamer83 A complacent Sony would not bother funding these four massive games in the first place. Let's not overreact.
Really only gonna watch death stranding. Don’t need information on anything else
If we get long gameplay chunks for these games then I can't see why there is disappointment. That is literally what many people have been begging to have more. These are four strong exclusives that showcase what the PS4 is all about.
If it is true that the PS5 development is ramping up then why would they spend time with a bunch of new announcements either? 2019 is building up as a banner year. The Last of Us launched in the twilight of PS3's peak so it would be fitting that Part II closes out the main chapter of PS4's peak.
I'm guessing around 10 min of gameplay for those 4 titles and couple of trailers for third party.
And why did Shawn call 4 World Wide Studios Kojima Isn't in SIE...Wasn't there some business cards that Kojima posted on Instagram with his Studio and Playstation together?
@get2sammyb Apparently there IS a conference. https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2018/05/11/playstation-at-e3-2018-the-journey-begins-on-12th-june/#sf189324162
@get2sammyb i know right.was he drunk 😂😱😁.word up son
nice move sony, previous e3 we only got game announcement, cinematic and gameplay trailer, at least this year we will be having an hour long demo for their upcoming games next year.
They've still said there'll be announcements and stuff, so I'm not panicking too much yet. The four games they're giving special attention to are the ones I'm most excited about anyway, so I'm still looking forward to it. But it is a bit disappointing that they seem to be trying to going relatively low-key this year.
@LiamCroft You would think so! But Dreams hasn't started its promised beta yet as far as im aware. Im not sure Wild still exsists to be frank and PSVR they might be savig for PSX. Still its not a great look.
@BAMozzy
Disagree. Part of the reason Sony 'won' this gen, whether rightly or wrongly, is because of what happened at E3 in 2013 and the excitement Sony was able to create at E3 2015 and 2016. Every few years it's always the same story that E3 is dead or dying, no more point to having it, etc, and yet it still generates the most talk. Even MS realizes it still has some appeal as it seems to be going all out for this year's show. Maybe it knew all along Sony would be skipping. And looking at it glass half full, maybe for the first time in a long time MS gets back into this thing. Nintendo can create excitement by having very minimal E3 presence because its Nintendo and most people only care about first party games. Third party, however, is massively important to PlayStation and Xbox and now third party partners only have one stage to show their games this year and possibly going forward. On the plus side, maybe a big win for MS gets Sony motivated again but I see the PS3 days returning. Hate the direction Sony is going under these new idiots who have replaced Andrew House and Kaz Hirai.
Could be a good move, you never know.
Sony a good showing at Paris games week last & they have PSX as well so maybe they'll be holding stuff back
I have no problem with it, I want nice 15 minutes previews of each of those 4 games.
@Gamer83 MS won't "get back in it" based on one conference cos they have a system that's struggled past 30m and only has North America as a decent market for them.
Do people still say “get in the sea”
I never sit and watch the conferences anyways. I just watch the trailers/gameplay videos, read the articles and that's it.
Well...guess I don't care about E3 that much...at least about the conferences! I love them and Sony was doing an awesome job!
Guess this means they really don't have that much more going on for PS4 in the next years, at least besides what was already announced!
@get2sammyb watching Sony's conference is always a highlight here at the site, so it's a double bummer! I guess this means PS5 is coming sooner rather than later!
@get2sammyb
Games we already know about, in the case of Death Stranding, one we've known about for a couple years. Not impressed and we'll have to agree to disagree. My hope is Sony is maybe cutting back this year with a PS5 announcement early in 2019 and all the big first party games after these four going there, but I'm not counting on that. I hated what Sony did at PlayStation Experience 2017 and this E3 is going to be just as garbage.
That’s... that’s really dissapointing. Surely careful planning would give them some exciting announcements to make. I mean, to be honest, did Ghost of Tsushima even need to be announced already? If they hadn’t - then it would have been a megaton announcement.
E3 is exciting as they make it.
@Gamer83 I also MS takes advantage of this somehow, it needs to give Sony some actual competition, a reason I could even think about buying an Xbox One.
Relax people, they said the live streams will 'focus' on these 4 games. There is no indication (yet) that they don't have plenty more in the tank for this generation, and combined with Sony's colossal third-party support, there will be things to get hyped for. Positive thoughts, and all that.
@Gamer83 Whether they're announced or not, you don't pump millions and millions of dollars into games on this kind of scale if you're asleep at the wheel.
They don't need to exist; Sony's making plenty of money from Fortnite and Far Cry 5. They could be doing absolutely nothing at all — that would be complacency.
Also remember PlayStation has a new president. Perhaps Mr. Kodera sees this as an opportunity to shake up the (thus far successful) formula of how things have been done by Sony at E3 to keep it from getting overly stale.
It makes sense Sony haven’t got/aren’t willing to show 3 more years of games at a presser. You would think the PS5 will be along in say 2 years time, and will probably be shown next year. So with only a small amount of exclusives to show at e3 (leaving stuff for other conferences) do you A: want to spend millions having a show and B: show such a small amount in a traditional setting to rile fans.
They have 4 pretty good exclusives here to show which will keep people happy, but obviously don’t want to reveal what’s happening next year. Plus after selling 75 million consoles, perhaps they think they don’t need to have more exclusives to sell consoles, or maybe they think there isn’t that much more market for them to have?
@adf86
Of course according to you and others at this site who think Sony does no wrong and MS and Nintendo never do anything right, MS has no chance to get back into it. If Nintendo can return from the depths of total irrelevance, a company with the money MS has cna do the same. Things can change quick in this industry. Nobody expected Sony to get knocked down a peg after PS1 and 2 and it happened. Not many expected MS to drop the ball as badly as it did with Xbox One. This gen is over but if MS ends it on a good note there is definitely a chance to get back into this. Only reason I don't expect it is because I think everybody's favorite PR guy Phil Spencer is all talk and nothing more. But I hope to be wrong in part for the betterment of PlayStation. I've seen what happens when Sony doesn't feel like it has anything to worry about and I don't want those days to return.
@Gamer619 I don't know about that. I think the PS5 will release in 2021 or 2022. I strongly believe they will milk the success of the PS4 for as long as they can.
@get2sammyb i think this has been coming for a few years. The proliferation of these conferences to almost 4 a year (for PS) means E3 isnt what it used to be.
That's my excitement for e3 significantly diminished They will be there in 2019 for sure to announce ps5, but they do risk microsoft stealing the wind out of their sails a little bit with this. If i were Sony, i would have taken the opportunity to show love to indie creators who are feeling a bit bummed out by the lack of recognition over the past couple of years to keep them onside and give them more exposure.
I am sure we will still see some announcements mind and i guess other trade shows in the year take on more significance. PSX in particular now seems to be a much bigger event for Sony as all the attention is focussed on them.
Announcing this will also stop them getting overly negative reactions like they faced after last years e3 conference
Disappointing. I understand. But it's disappointing, E3 is sacred.
@Turismo4GT
He's a service-based guy. There will be plenty of shake ups, and I expect not many to be good.
@Neolit Oh man, I should’ve proof read that comment more...
@Neolit
Honestly, I don't expect much from MS either. A lot of people are calling this E3 make or break for MS but for me as a gamer, this might be make or break as a whole. Xbox has been more irrelevant to me than I ever thought possible the last couple years and it's clear as day MS is done with traditional gaming. Sony seems to be headed down the same path and the replacements for House and Hirai being people with service-based focuses pretty much proves that. This is partly why the continued moving away from E3 by big companies concerns me. Who needs E3 if you're selling cloud gaming more than anything else? This pretty much leaves Nintendo for as close to traditional gaming as we'll get. I'm a big fan of the Switch but like most Nintendo consoles it's a first party machine. I want the big third party games as well like GTA, Red Dead, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, but the means I might have to go through to get them in the future isn't appealing at all.
Annoyed because I feel PSVR should be getting some attention at this year's E3 from Sony. I'm sure we'll get a few 3rd party games but Sony need to show commitment to the platform.
I was hoping the Last of Us was the Last of that series. Revive Jak & Daxter or do something interesting.
Well...I called it .
Good on Sony. If they don’t have any major announcements then why have a conference?
Because the fans want it?
Because the media demands it?
As I said yesterday...
PSX should be the highlight of the PlayStation calendar.
Also some people need to seriously chill out.
Have Sony been that bad this gen to warrant such mistrust?
I'm just going to say it but is it possible that Push Square jumped the gun a bit here? Cos after the blog post a lot more people have come round to the idea.
Well I think they earned it. They realised they were stretching themselves thin with the many conferences (TGS, PGW and PSX). And probably because they’re preparing their next console reveal. Will miss the live orchestra though.
@get2sammyb no matter what Sony does, they get trounced on.
you were right when you said that the other day. I can not believe this makes no sense to me very disappointed.
I'm disappointed no E3!! but I'm not stupid to start going on about games Sony have been doing unbelievably well in that department so some comments sound really stupid here sorry to say
Sad to hear, especially after last year's.
It's a shame, as I quite like the spectacle of the pressers. Maybe they don't have anything new to show? Hopefully the mystery around Bloodborne 2 will be solved
EA does its own thing outside of E3, it's even announcing the next battlefield on may23rd. Rockstar just does its own thing. Ubisoft does its own embarassing conference, then shows up at sony's or MS's (or both) conferences depending on who they partnered with for what. for the likes of activision, it usually about having call of duty, destiny, or whatever on the show floor available to play, so they're all announced already. most 'AAA' games these days take 3-4+ years to make, (or at least my impression is that it's taking much longer than last-gen on average) so the days of loads of huge announcements are over imo.
@Gamer83 I liked your long explanation in post 75, looking at the bigger picture, it's not just about what Sony does at E3 2018.
I do think you hit it on the head though w/ this earlier comment:
"a PS5 announcement early in 2019 and all the big first party games after these four going there"
I've even gone as far as to say at least 1 of these 4, probably Death Stranding but maybe either/or Ghosts, winds up a dual release on PS5 like Zelda. All 4 will wind up on PS54 eventually, even if there is BC then PS5 will get GotY or Complete Editions that PS4 doesn't, all in NATIVE 4K. Get used to seeing "NATIVE 4K" alot starting next year.
I do think you put too much faith in Nintendo though as they roll out paid online in September, and they've been going strong on mobile. ARMS and Splatoon 2 are almost nothing but weekly updates. Free for now, but we'll see how Spaltoon 3 and ARMS 2 handle DLC. Oh yeah, Spaltoon 2 is getting a $20 single player mode, so that's already headed into FFXV territory. So even they seem to be on the "games as service" bus. A bus I'll throw myself under before I get on. God of War may be the last ever AAA game to launch w/o a season pass alongside it. (I'm still expecting a $20 DLC story, just don't know what as I haven't' finished it yet.)
So if you want to worry about the future of gaming, I'm right there with you, and MS future always looks bleak to me, even when it's going well, and Nintendo is catching up and catching on to all the wrong things, but I wouldn't worry about Sony too much. Not yet anyway. We'll see what they rollout next year for PS5. Games as service is going to ruin it for me before Sony does though, that's a sad fact.
I'm ok with it. TGA and PSX are better places for showing games(they have a more friendly atmosphere and me personally, prefer that friendly zone to serious one with spoiled jokes.)
AND F YEAAH HERE IS DEATH STRANDING.
that was all I wanted from E3.
Ah man. I’ve been looking forward to this conference for a while. Pretty disappointed.
Whatever, it's at 3am, so I will be drunk watching this, it will be fun to watch either way!
@rjejr
The thing with Nintendo is its so slow to get catch up with everything. You'll see Sony and MS go full gaming as a service before Nintendo. Though I do agree, Nintendo is showing signs of going in the wrong direction too. It's just it'll take a decade as opposed to Sony and MS who I think are just a few years away. Not very excited by what PS5 might actually be and moving away from stuff like E3 just further solidifies that. E3 isn't really a venue to show off a games as a service model.
Really the only 2 games I'm interested in seeing more of are Ghost of Tsushima and Death Stranding. The Last of Us Part 2 is probably just gonna be more TLoU with a few changes here and there, since innovation isn't exactly Naughty Dog's strong suit, and we already have a solid grasp on what kind of game Spider-Man will be.
@KirbyTheVampire I hope they surprise us with TLOU!
That's it, with all those leaks before and now this news, it's almost sure that few surprises will be on E3.
Sigh, Sony should make an 1 hour conference even without new announcements, they could show trailers and gameplay of The Last of Us 2, Ghost of Tsushima, Spider-Man and Death Stranding. There are also games like Dreams and Days Gone, multiplats, indies and PSVR.
Even if some people would complain with no new announcements, it's always great to watch a conference, that's what E3 is about. This E3 will be a disappointment, I guess.
E3 is MS's to lose...
@DLB3 "Sony's never did so with any big game"
That's a good point, but my view is - nobody ever does anything until they do. Nintendo has been doing a ton of stuff the past few years they've never done before.
Of course if PS5 can play PS4 games on disc, well then you don't really need a dual release, especially since PS4 Pro can play games in checkerboard 4k which is probably close enough not to warrant 2 releases. But then again I think of games like MGSV and GTAV and Zelda and think, why not?
Now hopefully all of those games will be out long before PS5, Spiderman has a year head start so that is not a candidate, but Ghosts could be, we've hardly seen any of that. Death Stranding I still think is PS5 only but E3 will show us more. TLoU2 will be the last great big AAA PS4 title, but it could slip depending on the PS5 launch date. Days Gone better keep an eye on that release schedule if it doesn't want to be buried and forgotten.
When they finally do announce the PS5 the thing I am really most interested in is backwards compatibility, dual releases will really be dependent on that.
@Gamer83 You're really making me want to quit gaming, you know that.
It's ok, age will probably do me in before the industry self combusts. $60-to-start is the death-knell for me. Someday colleges will be teaching courses on FFXV and the end of the pay-once-and-done gaming model. When mobile and console games collide.
@Octane Let's hope so. It doesn't have to be crazily different, but pushing around boxes and finding pieces of wood for Ellie to float on is not gonna cut it.
Sony announces to far ahead of time, remember. So Sony reduced E3 to the current year. No more next year and beyond. 2018 has been a banner year for PlayStation. How can you have disappointment in 2018?
Uh no. Read this excerpt from polygon:
"Layden said that Sony’s pre-E3 showing will “feature exclusive looks and deep dives” on four big titles from SIE Worldwide Studios: Kojima Productions’ Death Stranding, Insomniac Games’ Marvel’s Spider-Man, Naughty Dog’s The Last of Us Part 2 and Sucker Punch Productions’ Ghost of Tsushima."
So it's Sony's PRE-E3 SHOW that will focus on those four games. THE PRE SHOW. The Sony-centric stream that happens just before the actual conference.
Last your Sony's pre-E3 show was fantastic. (They announced Guacamelee 2 in it.) It seems as though everyone's completely missed that he was talking about the pre show in his comments.
@DVS ''Join us on Monday, June 11 starting at 6:00pm Pacific Time as we share a preview of what’s next for PlayStation. We’ll broadcast the show live from E3 2018 in Los Angeles, California via live.playstation.com, Twitch, YouTube, and Facebook.
In a rare break from tradition, we wanted to give you an early glimpse at what to expect heading into the Showcase on June 11. PlayStation’s Worldwide Studios will be at E3 in full force to provide you with an exclusive look at four upcoming titles: Death Stranding from Kojima Productions, Ghost of Tsushima from Sucker Punch, Marvel’s Spider-Man from Insomniac Games, and The Last of Us Part II from Naughty Dog.''
Don't believe Polygon, this is from Sony themselves.
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2018/05/11/playstation-at-e3-2018-the-journey-begins-june-11-at-600pm-pacific/
@DLB3 "As for the "nobody ever does anything until they do" I guess there's still a chance for me to be successful! Thanks for the inspirational words."
Your welcome.
Oh, and thank you, I've never actually looked at it like that before. I usually just look at it as - everybody is a liar.
Though I still think dual releases can succeed. For one, by the time PS5 launches there will be 100 million PS4, so some people will buy it. Two, some won't even want a PS5 for many more eyars to come. Certainly not if you recently purchased a Pro. And since PS5 will be a new - ie expensive console - why wait.
Zelda BotW sold over 1 million copies on Wii U, a system that was dead for a year before Zelda released on Switch and Wii U at the same time. 1 million on a very much dead and maligned Wii U. Games will sell just fine on PS4 for awhile after PS5 launches and it's install base has a chance to build up.
@DLB3 " I was primarily referring to the early adopters who will get the PS5 on launch day,"
Well there are always early adopters. Even Wii U and 3DS sold out day 1, maybe even for a month or 2. PS5, no matter what it promises, will sell out for months, at least in the US. We have thousands of athletes in this country making millions of $ each, they'll all buy 1 day 1. It's months 5, 6, 7 where you need games. New exclusive games that can't be played anywhere else. Ports and dual releases can fill in the rest.
One thing I do like these days about ports is port bundling. Nintnedo gets a little nutty charging $60 for a port of originally $50 Donkey Kong, but trilogies of games like Crash and Spyro selling for $40 is nice. Uncharted 4 and U:LL would make a nice 4k bundle. TLoU, TLoU:LB and TLoU2 would be very nice. I think TLoU2 will release before PS5, no dual release there. The InFamous trilogy wold be nice, don't think that's been bundled yet, maybe 1 & 2. I wonder if GTAV will get a 4k version? Should be time for GTA6 by then, but you never know.
tbh i just need to see ori and the will of wisps and i am d o n e
‘frankly we haven't got a clue what's going on.’
I did always suspect...😏
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