In a year that’s already been packed to bursting point with big games, September will seriously up the ante with a sequence of huge releases. Two major titles, Marvel’s Spider-Man and Shadow of the Tomb Raider, are scheduled to deploy within days of each other – a harrowing prospect for publisher Square Enix and developer Eidos Montreal considering how much enthusiasm there is for Peter Parker’s impending instalment. Speaking with COGconnected, game director Daniel Bisson insisted that he’s not concerned.
“I’m not worried about Spider-Man,” he stressed. “I have friends working on it, so I’m very happy for them, and I think, you were saying it, it’s a great year. And for me, Spider-Man and Shadow of the Tomb Raider can co-exist. It’s a different experience. One’s way more about movement, the city and things, and this one is way more about exploring and finding things that make life special.”
While it’s true that the games offer different experiences, there’s only so much time and money to go around, and with even bigger titles like Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 and Red Dead Redemption 2 lurking, there’s simply no way that these releases won’t cannibalise each other to some extent. It’s perhaps worth remembering that Lara Croft’s latest is a multiformat outing, while Spider-Man is an exclusive, so that may work in its favour to some extent.
Of course, this raises an age old discussion: why do so many games insist on going to war at the same time of the year? There’s no doubt that the industry makes most of its money during the all-important holiday months, but we’ve just come off the back of a summer that’s been practically devoid of major releases. It feels like madness for everything to be clustered together in the same two month period, but that’s the situation we find ourselves in, and chances are you’re going to have to make some difficult decisions about which titles you’re going to buy.
[source cogconnected.com]
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The only thing thing stopping me from buying this day one is cause Spider-Man is out the same week lol
They will be destroyed honestly x)
Maybe they should be.
Well they don't have to be worried about Xbox and PC players of course. But I bet there is a lot of PS4 players who won't buy Tomb Raider day one because of Spider-Man (I am one of them already).
Sammy makes a great point about there only been so many money and time for consumers. Tomb Raider should do well enough but I have a feeling many will just wait for a sale on it. Spiderman on the other hand has (much like Sony's other games) has a "not to be missed" feel about it.
“Only one game has Lara Croft”.
Another reason to buy Spider-Man instead, this new Lara Croft is so generic. 😀
@tatsumi And it'll still probably sell best on PS4.
I have a bad feeling with this game being released in such an overfilled month, it's not going to meet Square's sales expectations and the Tomb Raider franchise will go into IP purgatory next to Deus Ex.
That would disappoint me because I really like the Tomb Raider and Deus Ex franchises.
I don't mind the money so much, finding the time to play all of them is the hard part. The backlog is growing and growing and growing.....
As I understand, Tomb Raider hasn’t set the sales charts alight, so it’ll defintiely be hurt by Spider-Man; sure they may be different, but people play different types of games. I think a fair amount of people playing Tomb Raider have their eye at least on Spider-Man.
Tomb raider will sell a lot of better if squareenix released it this august, there's only indie games this month. Next month is a very busy month for AAA games, not to mention tomb raider 2018 isn't a complete game (with all of the dlc day 1), I think most ps4 gamer will wait for the complete edition and buy spider-man and spyro instead.
I for one will be enjoying the sh*t out of both, really don't see the need to shout HEY THIS IS BETTER
This could be the reason they've been dropping so many gameplay videos recently, to simply compete with the coming Spider-Man juggernaut. I've no problem with that, get the word out by all means.
ps4 owners buy spiderman while xbox/pc owners buy tomb raider, then black friday or when tomb raider is on sale ps4 owners will be buying the game
I'll just get both.... no big deal
I agree that I don’t understand why Squenix didn’t try for a little earlier release date. The game went gold like a week or two ago. They were showing the same footage they have now at E3. I mean, I’m no marketing expert, but what the heck? Makes sense to try to avoid competition from similar genres of games. I’m buying SotTR regardless of when it would have come out, but after the famine of AAA games over the summer, people would probably flock to the first one after such a long drought. Now that game is Spider-Man. If TR would have just been 2-3 weeks earlier, they would have increased release date sales by about 25%. (Disclaimer: My sales prediction statistics are completely fabricated...) And Squenix wonders why TR “underperforms” sales targets. Jeez, do the game a favor and pick a better release date, people.
I don't understand why anyone would even bother to buy TR before next April anyway. You'll probably be able to buy the game and season pas for $30 digitally next summer.
Yeah I'm buying Spider-man. But to be fair I wasn't interested in Tomb Raider to begin with. I'll hit up DQ11 after Spider-man, then drop that when KH3 launches.
The question isn't if it's gonna sell well, but when. I'll definitely buy Shadow, but Spider-Man comes first without question for me.
My only concern, much like @Jaz007, is that it may not meet Square's expectations causing them to retire Tomb Raider for a long time.
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I'm getting both day one. But I agree, there are soooo many great games releasing September through December... It's ridiculous.
I’m actually more interested in the Tomb Raider game to be honest. That’s day one for me. I guess that makes me the odd man out huh?
"Only one game has Lara Croft".
And only one game has Spider-Man. This man is delusional if he thinks Croft is a bigger name than the web-slinger.
@Lekzie1 I agree.Tomb Raider will do fine with the XBOX not really having a choice in the matter. Spider-Man will be my must have and as you said, when Tomb Raider goes on sale, I'll pick that one up too.
I for one don't give a jot about the new Spiderman game. Sure, it looks good but I'm just not into all the superhero stuff, except a bit of Batman. That said, I won't be getting the new TR at launch either but if I had to choose one then I'd be picking Lara's game.
Spiderwho? Parp.
Only one game has lara croft was a massive selling point 15 years ago. Now... Im not so sure. Dont get me wrong, i love tomb raider, but there is no way I'm picking it up over spidey. I hope both games do well though.
Valkyria chronicles and dragon quest are the ones i am really worried for though
You couldn't pay me to play Shadow of the Tomb Raider.
Yes only one game has Lara Croft, but she can't even swing around town using webs.
I think, if this had launched in August it would have done waaaay better. It's Spider,an for me (pending reviews) and that is as a long term TR fan.
@BrettAwesome yep,I'll tell you about it anytime!
Love some tomb raider. Very excited about what spiderman brings
They are afraid.
And ever since nathan drake and chloe frazer came around i could not care less about lara.sorry but that name has lost Some if it's impact.
Also there is a Reason that they are trying to look like uncharted so much. Check out Some of the artwork (there is 1 that could be passed off as coming directly from U4) and the uncharted 2 song in that trailer etc.
yeah they are afraid,and their statement kinda sounds arrogant because of it.
I still have God of war sitting unplayed so I really shouldn't be buying any of these from the get-go. That may encourage me to wait a little for some price reductions.
Not affecting me - I pre-order both months (and years in Spider-Mans case) ago. Both also competing with Destiny 2: Forsaken for my time playing these before RDR2 and AC Odyssey release...
I'm sure tomb raider is amazing, but I never felt screwed buying a Sony exclusive day 1 considering subsequent dlc. It's Spiderman in September for me, and tomb raider next year when a complete edition is released.
Sony fans are used to waiting for it by now after they made the first sequel a Xbox exclusive for a year.
No need to be bitter. Both will do well. I’m buying both. But which one would I get if I could only get one game? Why dragon quest 11 of course! Lol. Then the man......
Plus, I’m 43. Was into Spider-Man before 8-bit gaming. And samus is the lady of gaming a good decade before big guns and “big guns” eh teenage PC pervy Modders......lol
@Enuo honestly, no need. And they ain’t! Wait for the games to come out, then we check the sales.......
If it was Batman I'd be all over it but I'm not really a fan of Spiderman so most of the story and characters are lost on me whilst the gameplay still looks a bit of an Arkham clone. Tomb Raider is still a maybe at this point but definitely not Black Ops 4 as they can't be bothered to actually make the "game" part. Overall it'll be RDR2 that'll be taking up most of my time when it launches
Well I preordered Yakuza Kiwami 2, Spiderman and Red Dead Redemption ... So Tomb Raider must wait. Like you sad .. there’s only so much time and money to go around.
I'm not buying either, because I'm burnt out on open world collectathons. Too many other good games waiting in the backlog.
She is actually in a few games....
Who cares! Spiderman has never been a great game. PS1 Trilogy was naff. Most of the follow ups were worse on gameplay. Swing, shoot, destroy. At least with Tomb Raider you get a somewhat decent game with various things going on. Spiderman is veey repetative in my view. Plus its only on the PS4! I've always been a fan of Lara Croft since day one! These days I own a PC so I'd rather spend my money on a game I know I will like rather than a game I know I'd be bore off in a weeks time. To this day I've never played more than half hour of any Spiderman game. Its not Batmam and its just boring! Only people who get sucked in buy things they believe will be good. Look at Allison Mack!
@Kidfried So true about the day 1 patching which is pretty standard now.
I didn’t realize the large discrepancy of money spent in Aug vs Sept.
I wonder if people don’t spend money because big games don’t come out in August, or if big games don’t come out in August because people don’t spend money then. 😂. Chicken or the Egg?
Buying both.
I think SE has shafted themselves with the whole Microsoft Exclusivity deal with the last one, it was a farce of a business decision with PS4 sales being so far ahead of the competition. Way to alienate yourselves from your consumer base Square Enix. That is why I'm purchasing Spider Man day one and buying SOTR is a sale further down the line. May well have been the other way round, but they obviously don't give two hoots about PS4 owners. Good luck to Crystal Dynamics and Eidos though, hope the game does well.
spiderman is a maybe for me, and TR is a no. allegedly the last TR game would never have been made without microsoft's investment for the exclusivity deal.. so how's this one being made without it when it didn't sell anywhere near as well as the original reboot?. in actual fact they lost two sales from me.. when RoTTR did eventually come to PS4, there was other stuff to buy instead. i couldn't be ar*ed at this point playing a 3-year old game.
Yeah I'm choosing Tomb Raider over Spiderman. SoulCalibur over Battlefield. Not bothering with CoD this year (probably) since it doesn't have a campaign. Assassin's Creed can wait. Buying Dragon Quest but leaving it to play when I have space since the Destiny Expansion is out the same day...
"This one is way more about exploring and finding things that make life special.”
I don't understand how they can say this with a straight face. My memories of both the Tomb Raider reboot and Rise is repeatedly pressing R3 so that useless items show up on a greyscale screen. None of the items I've ever found in that game are things that make life "special."
Considering Tomb Raider is multiplatform its hard to compare. Spidey may outsell it on PS4 but Xbox and PC will fill the gap. I'm personally waiting on Spidey but going day 1 on my X for Tomb Raider simply because Tomb Raider looks more interesting to me. Both will be purchased over time though.
@Jake3103 it's just desperate marketing fluff.
they know that they are in for a hard battle with spiderman and the chance that they will lose is high,so they do everything they can to show this game off while getting a little passive aggressive in the process.
@SDF_Macross77 it will fill the gap a little bit,but the reboot TR games have a track record of selling below expectations regardless on how many platforms it releases.
i don't see the 3rd game in a average series selling much more copies compared to the other 2.
Spidey is my most hyped game announced so definitely that. I think TR will do alright, but I felt that the 2013 was much better than Rise, can only assume this will follow the same vein...
Maybe tomb raider since 3rd newer game might take a backseat since Spider-Man new IP for Sony. Then tomb raider get around Black Friday hopefully for $20 and we get to enjoy both.
Meh, by BF 2019 the inevitable GOTY/Complete Edition should be $20-$30 New, I'll just be waiting for that .
i wonder is spiderman will sell more copies on a single platform than tomb raider on 3 platforms... should be a close one. i expect spiderman to sell at least 7m copies total over a 12 month period.
Well, I’ll be getting spider man fist and tomb raider, well, who knows when.... so.... yeah, they’re wrong.
"Only one game has Lara Croft."
Yeah... that's not the draw it once was, I'm afraid.
Because Spiderman is it same week I bet when they do the next tomb raider next gen it will be an Xbox exclusive because there excuse will be "Oh it didn't sell sell on PS" yeah because you got destroyed by an exclusive that gamers have been waiting for, for god dam months and it looks better.
These type of articles always bring out the ignorant fanboy/ girl types. Why not enjoy both games independently instead of feeling the need to type stupid comments as if to say your taste is superior to someone else's.
I don't have enough money for both and so I chose to buy Tomb Raider as I wouldn't consider my self a spiderman fan and I have more of a connection with tomb raider, been playing the games since 1999. If I had money for both I would definitely get spiderman as it looks like an immersive and fun game.
@Th3solution Did u not play God Of War? Because a " Famine " as u put it is nothing like what u Imagine it to be!
@Nakatomi_Uk They tried that with a timed exclusive on the last Tomb Raider and it did dismally, then a yr later when released on Playstation it sold better. I think it will do fine on Playstation but it will just have to wait a while because Spidey is definitely gonna be a smash hit in epic proportions
@Lloydeeee I should clarify — By “famine of AAA games over the summer” I meant new AAA game releases over the summer. God of War came out in April, which I would call Spring rather than summer. Detroit in May was maybe “summer” I guess depending on how one defines the seasons, but it just seems like a long time ago. I’m sure I’m forgetting a big AAA release in the last 3 months (Vampyr? ...not sure we would call that “AAA”) but the statement it has been a famine was probably hyperbole, but it’s the internet, so I like to be dramatic
@tatsumi love spiderman, but ill be going TR.....
@shonenjump86 NOt really, most of my pals (but we are older gamers though) will be going day 1 on SOTR, Spiderman is completely new though, so curiosity for it is very high and really wanna get that too
i bet there worried now!
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