Is it finally happening? Will Media Molecule really go ahead with it? Could we really, actually be playing the Dreams open beta test before Christmas? We're not entirely sure just yet, but it seems that the aloof Sony studio is gearing up for something tomorrow.
Media Molecule has been streaming its unfathomably ambitious creation game on a pretty regular basis, so news of a live stream isn't all that unusual. What is unusual is the way the announcement has been worded: "Totally normal Dreams stream." So, totally not a normal Dreams stream, then. Seeing as the developer has continued to insist the elusive beta is still coming in 2018, and seeing as 2018 is very nearly over, we take this to mean tomorrow's stream could very well give us a release date at long last. In fact, it could well be released tomorrow during the stream, considering this year only has a couple of weeks left to go.
We don't want to get too ahead of ourselves, but it's pretty clear the studio is referring to the beta. We'll know by this time tomorrow, anyway. Here's hoping we'll be getting a Christmas miracle. Are you excited to play the Dreams beta? Do you think it's still coming this side of 2019? Let your imagination run wild in the comments below.
[source twitter.com]
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i smell the demo releasing right after the stream.
that or on christmas day.
YES!
I was just about to post this in the forums lol. I made it a daily thing to browse the internet in search for news on the beta. I was looking at their Twitter and was surprised this was just posted. Can't wait for the beta!
I'm looking forward to it but... Feels like bad timing to me.
They're going to announce that every game released on PS4 for the last two years was actually made in Dreams, and we've been beta-testing it all along
@get2sammyb It's never a bad time for Dreams!
I hope it is the beta cos I sudder to think what this comment section will be like.
@AdamNovice Measured and respectful, as always.
I can’t wait to totally fail at making everything I attempt and then enjoying all the masterpieces others create whilst questioning my ability 😂
Definitely releasing tommorrow. Exciting!
@Quintumply I was thinking more dismissive and snarky which has been the case for the last couple of Dreams articles.
@AdamNovice you could say in almost all sony related articles these days.
this is a weird fanbase.
Dreams will be renamed "Super Smash Bros. Ultimate: Level Editor" and release exclusively on Switch. 😂
@jdv95 I think it's to do with a handful of new users who have come on with a sense of just wanting to be contrary.
Beta is coming tomorrow and the full version in 2019!
Write your ideas folks.
@jdv95 They are not the fanbase, they are just haters of Sony. That happens on every single article related to a Sony exclusive.
If I can make my own version of marvel ultimate alliance.... that would be amazing.
Fingers, toes and 'nads crossed in urgent anticipation that this is indeed an announcement for the beta, at least. C'mon Sony, make it happen, that last part REALLY hurts 😖
Well I'll be go to hell!!
"Totally normal Dreams stream"
Sure, it'll be normal, until the end where there will be an announcement! Oh boy. I sure hope it's a demo.
Please please please be a beta... Just in time for my Xmas holiday too... How bleddy exciting!
@Gremio108 haha love it! Amazing to think God of War is just a Dreams demo!
The Cake is a Lie.
Don't think I have much interest in a demo. Release date would be nice.
I've never been interested in betas, but I would play this in a second...
I understand good games take time, and this is a huge project, but... Is it ever going to see the light of day? I mean, come on... It was announced along the PS4. And we're almost at the PS5 now
Anyway, fingers crossed for the beta release
@Octane what's all this about my legs lol
@mrbert It wasn't actually announced alongside the PS4, if anything it was just a proof of concept like Quantic Dream's Dark Sorcerer short. E3 2015 was when Dreams was announced, I'm sure MM would have hoped it was out by now but considering the type of game it is (and having to build a new engine from scratch) I can't imagine how technical issues they would have had to sort out.
Sony must see some value in it because they could have cancelled at any time (like with Santa Monica's Sci Fi game) but they let MM get on with it.
@AdamNovice It was more than just a tech demo, they were really excited about it. If you watch the head mM guy talking it about while we never said it was named "Dreams" he used that word 3x. It was more than just the basis of this game, it was the beginning of development for thus game called "Dreams".
@rjejr But it was never treated as a full reveal for a game, hence why it had no confirmed name at the time. It was still seen as a tech demo shown in between the actual game reveals.
I hope I have the time to play it properly cuz I really want to make some levels of my own. Seems like the tools they have created are amazing.
@AdamNovice So you think during the reveal of it's next big company saving console after the so-so success of the PS3 Sony devoted over 6 minutes to a tech demo that was never supposed to become a game, purely a tech demo? I find that idea hard to believe. Why spend so much time on a tech demo when you are trying to launch a new console? Just b/c it didn't have a name yet doesn't mean it wasn't a game in development.
Do you remember the "Monado Beginning of the World" E3 reveal trailer? That game launched as "Xenoblade Chronicles". It "HAD a name at E3 that got changed later. Changing names is easy, making games is hard.
Names aren't' all that important, the game engine and game development is important. Dreams was in development as a game. Even Destructoid thought so. See under list of "The Games" from the PS4 reveal.
https://www.destructoid.com/here-s-all-the-news-from-today-s-playstation-4-reveal-246145.phtml
Media Molecule wants to help your record your dreams
https://www.destructoid.com/media-molecule-wants-to-help-your-record-your-dreams-246143.phtml
Sure, they probably didn't have the 3 main sections that make up the current single player story mode in the game yet, but the rest of it is the game. I'm not saying it was finished 5 years ago, obviously it wasn't. Zelda Breath of the Wild wasn't nearly finished in 2014 when they said it would be out in 2015 - it released in 2017 - but it was still Zelda. Miyamoto has been saying Pikmin 4 has been "nearly complete" since 2015, and Nintneod hasn't even officially announced it yet.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/09/pikmin_4_is_very_close_to_completion_though_its_platform_is_unclear
If you want to see a tech demo, here's a demo for Wii U that Nintendo was showing off at E3 for a minute. You can tell it's a tech demo b/c there was never any game on Wii U that looked even remotely like it. Not XCX, not Breath of the Wild. It was just a tech demo to show off what the system could do with photo realistic graphics, but no game ever came of it. Reggie calls it "an interactive demonstration".
I do think there was a tech demo or 2 for PS4, that wizards face that looked real, some dragon dwelling game that never materialized, but if Dreams ever does get released, anybody whoever saw or sees that early PS4 reveal footage is going to know it's the beginning of game development for Dreams. It just is. It looks too similar and they said "dreams" too many times for it not to be. It's not the finished game, nor even half finished, but it is the beginning of "Dreams" development.
It's a "where there's smoke there's fire" kinda thing. The video is a "smoking gun" for a documentary of "Dreams: In the Making".
Xmas Eve release date. A little something to put under my digital tree.
@B-I-G-DEVIL My thoughts exactly.
@kyleforrester87 It was a bad joke, I'll try to come up with a better one
@Octane haha goodluck
I'm still very excited for this, hopefully not too long until release. If so, maybe they should make it a PS5 launch game.
@rjejr I'm not saying that the tech demo wasn't intended to be a full game but that the PS4 reveal showing shouldn't have been taken as an actual game that was announced. Like I say it wasn't until E3 2015 when Dreams was actually announced. But some think it was announced in 2013 when the game had probably barely begun development due to half of the team making Tearaway.
@AdamNovice Well "announcing it" and "making it" are two different things. No argument there.
Pikmin 4 hasn't even been officially announced yet, but besides Miyamoto saying it was nearly complete in 2015, he also said at E3 in 2017 he was still working on it. But Nintnedo hasn't ever announced it yet, not in an ND or even a twitter feed as far as I know. Btu it's supposedly still being worked on.
https://www.polygon.com/e3/2017/6/14/15804766/pikmin-4-update
So no, Dreams was not officially announced as a new game in 2013, but as you said, if half the company was working on Tearaway and the other other half was working on the as of that time unnamed Dreams, well they were still working on Dreams. Half the company was working on a game without a name that they officially announced and named in 2015, but that game was shown and in development in 2013. It may not have been named or announced yet, but probably a lot of what they were working on then will be in the final version of Dreams. Probably also a lot will be cut, and added, over a 5 year development cycle.
I will say that as much grief as we give SquareEnix for the 10 year development cycle for FFXIII Vs. that became FFXV that game really wasn't in development for 10 years, at some point they through it all out and started over. Same for FF7R. When that game finally does come out, if it ever does, I wont' hold them to the date of the originally announcement. They've scrapped that, and the company making it, so whatever does finally release, it won't have started way back when.
Also, BG&E2 was announced in 2008 in a teaser trailer and shown off via leaked footage way back in 2009. I've been joking about it being a game 10 years in the making but it's just a joke, I don't beleive what we will eventually see of BG&E2 is related to that material form 10 eyars ago.
But what we saw 5 years ago from mM is most likely the beginning development of Dreams. They didn't destroy all of that and start over in 2015, it looks and sounds way too similar, it's all 1 game.
That's long just to show I'm not 100% that every game is or isn't in development for ever, every game situation is different. Some get announced before named, some get finished before announced, some get canceled - like Scalebound - some things really are just tech demos, liek that Wii U koi pond - but Dreams was still Dreams way back when, in this case it's the same game.
So has mM announced the news yet so we can both move on?
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