Sony’s been keeping Troy Baker in designer hair wax, as he’s starred in several of the platform holder’s biggest games: The Last of Us, inFAMOUS: Second Son, Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End, Death Stranding, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, The Last of Us: Part II – and probably a dozen more that we’re forgetting. So when developer Ready at Dawn wanted to cast the irritatingly handsome thespian as Sir Galahad in The Order: 1886, the platform holder said no.
“Since you’re going to bring it up,” Baker guffawed, as part of an E3 2019 panel on Lone Echo 2, “Sony literally said – and I hope you’re going to laugh at this because I had to – [you’re] in too many games. So they changed it.”
Seed of Chucky star Steve West went on to play the English knight, but Baker could have added another PlayStation exclusive to his portfolio. Perhaps they should have got Laura Bailey, Travis Willingham, and Nolan North to play the other three characters – assemble and all that.
[source twitter.com]
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Makes sense. I still find it jarring when i hear Nolan North in games that are not uncharted (with the exception of batman), as he has a very distinctive voice. It pulls you out of the game abit when you expect to see drake.
So Sony will have wanted to avoid potential confusion or the accusations that all their games are identical by casting Troy again.
@Rob_230
This. Hearing Nolan voice Tony Stark was jarring to say the least.
@Rob_230
Yeah, especially when he doesn’t alter it. I enjoyed his version of Penguin.
still hoping that the order gets a sequel - the story wasn't finished and i hate not getting a conclusion
I want a sequel of the Order
As much as I like Troy Baker, I have to agree. It cheapens his performance to be too common. And West did a great job.
And ditto to wanting The Order: 1887 (or whatever a sequel would be called.)
I can definitely agree to that. The guy's in too many games.
@Aslanmagic
'The Order 1886 : The Next Chapter'
No kidding I really want the sequel on PS5 and I think its happening.
I love Troy Baker but yeah agree that it's sometimes a bit much. As great a voice actor as he is, there are plenty of other people out there that could surely make just as good an impression anyway.
Playing FFXII again and I've only just realised that Vossler is voiced by Nolan North.
He's right lol. I am a big fan of his work, but he does get overused a little. Nolan North went through that period as well.
New voiceactors need a chance as well so i dont see i problem with some different people. 😊
@Th3solution I totally agree if you hear the same voice in everything its weird and it breaks emersion.
as flawed, and as short, as the order 1886 was, i enjoyed it. i think that alternative world/concept of the 19th century had a lot of potential.
Sony censors a game - Oh my God they can't do that what about the creators vision a game is a work of art Sony is the devil telling me what I can and can not see, I need my boobies and panties!!!
Sony censors a voice actor out of a game - Oh thank God I was so sick of that guy you tell'em Sony.
If you're happy about this, Sony telling a company who they can and can't hire to work on a game, you just forfeited your right to complain about Sony censorship.
@JJ2 I’m down. I think there’s a lot of interest. It had a great story and I want to see how it continues.
@rjejr Sony asking a company they are paying seems normal to me they funded the whole thing.
on a side note, this kind of makes sense🤔 at the time he was in a lot of there games that were being made so I can see the logic.
@David187 And I'm sure Sony can also see the logic in their censorship. Whether it's control or censorship it comes down to the same thing, Sony dictating creative changes to a game. The only difference is 1 change is forced before the game is made and 1 change is forced after.
I'll agree Troy Baker may be in too many games, and if HE decided that, OK, or if Ready at Dawn decided that, OK, but if Ready at Dawn wanted him in the game and Sony told them, "No, I won't allow it." that's the same thing as Sony censoring what we see in our games.
And besides that, Sony cost Baker a paycheck. Sure it's nice somebody else got paid and we got to hear a different voice for a change, but it's still money out of his pocket. And his agents pocket if he has one, or his families pocket. Sure if Sony has some say it's their right, but that doesn't make it right to me. Maybe if they had a good reason, he's a sexual predator or something, but over use doesn't seem like a good enough reason to me to mess with both a creative vision and a man's livelihood. And as such I think it's hypocritical to say censorship is bad but this is OK.
@rjejr
I thought you were kidding at first. Its not the same thing at all.
Choosing the cast they pay vs removing content.
@Rob_230 Did Nolan do the voice to the main brother character in Mass Effect Andromeda sounds like him
@rjejr not sure how over hiring someone & censorship make the same connection. but I was not talking about censorship has never affected me in games so not on my radar.
his livelihood? Sony had him on the payroll for a lot of projects at the time was more a case of overusing & affecting someone else's livelihood even? because Troy was getting all the work.
@David187 "not sure how over hiring someone & censorship make the same connection"
@JJ2 "Choosing the cast they pay vs removing content."
You don't see how removing content before it gets released is the same as removing content after it gets released?
Simple, one is removing content, and the other is removing content. Both are changing the creative vision that the game makers had. Which is what everybody is always complaining about with censorship, Sony changing the creator of the games vision.
If you're only complaint w/ censorship is the lack of naughty bits, think of all the women, and men, who get sexually turned on hearing Tory Bakers voice in a game, they were denied that in this game. And if you say - Well that's ok, they can always hear his voice in another game. - well guess what, you can get your nudity in other games a well. Same thing.
@rjejr
1. I haven't really complained about the naughty stuff removed yet.
2. Its unclear if Baker already started and was removed or if RAD simply asked for him and Sony said no. I think the latter. Maybe I didn't get what's going on exactly
In any case though, again, accepting the cast or not eventually is Sony s responsibly. A bit similar to budget or release window if relevant.
Well I get you don't see it that way but I don't see a problem
Nah Laura and Travis were to busy playing Dungeons and Dragons with Matt Mercer. 😂
@rjejr guess we will have to agree to disagree have a good weekend 👍👍
@David187 Thanks you too.
@rjejr 👍👍
The cast can make or break a game. Sometimes it hurts to have a familiar voice and sometimes it helps. The best thing about Dark Void—and what kept me playing it—was Nolan North.
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