Marvel's Spider-Man Has Moved a Mind Boggling 13.2 Million Copies

Amazing! Insomniac is totally worth whatever Sony had to pay. This puts Crystal Dynamics under ALOT of pressure with the Avengers game tho.

Insomniac deserves the success with the game. It's brilliant.

Always funny when people say Sony games NEED to be multiplat and then all their first party games end up selling 10 million copies in a year

@3Above I feel bad for CD since I'm sure the game is gonna get s*** on when it comes out even if it turns out okay.

Congrats for insomniacs and sony

I'd have preferred it if Insomniac had been able to go 3rd party and released games everywhere. 13.2 million on PS4 alone, imagine how many copies it would have sold had it been on PS4, Switch, Xbone and PC!

Even though I'm something of a fanboy myself, it's better for us, the consumers, the people who actually play the games, to have more options.

But can it beat GTA5?

Seriously though, major props to Insomniac.

@Heavyarms55
More options?
Like not buying a console?
Exclusives are great man. They are the chicken and egg of gaming consoles.
Also people use that word (fanboy) to bully others.

@CrimsonKing97 Yup.

@Heavyarms55 imagine how many multiplat spider-man games that doesnt even reach 10m copies sold, the answer all of em, and dont tell me cuz this game is made by insomniac, this is the only insomniac game that reach 10m,

bottomline ps4 fans buys good ps4 exclusives, if u look at the chart that sony made tlou, uc3, gow3 didnt reach 10m sold while the succeeding games like tlour, uc4, gow 2018 reach the 10m mark cuz its the reputation that sony builds in this gen that even popular multiplat ip like re2 or 7, ff15, mgs5 didnt achieve cuz being multiplat will not guarantee more sales

Pfff, those Marvel fan boys... Wait, I own this game. Yay! Marvel fan boys! The gameplay is fantastic so it it is well deserved and we finally have a Spider-man game better than Spider-man 2

@Neolit I don't think microsoft want to buy insomniacs since their collaboration failed (critically sunset is just ok and the sales isn't good) and I don't think insomniacs want to be bought by microsoft. Just look at bungie, they rather bought themselves out of microsoft rather than continue become their 1st party studio.

@Heavyarms55 Insomniacs best games (ratchet & clank series, spidey, resistance series) is all sony exclusives, so we won't be getting insomniacs best games even if they stay independent.

now buy remedy studio Sony.word up son

Easily in the top three for me this gen. Spider Man was actually first platinum too.

Congrats Insomniac! Wish a Star Wars game was being made by one of the Sony studios. This definitely bodes well for next gen consoles. Long reign single story campaigns!

@RawnDawn I'm with you there. They cant win. The game looks like it will be Fair to fine but it will be compared to Spiderman PS4. And knowing Square Enix typical astronomical expectations this could bode poorly for CD.

@Lekzie1 I agree 100%!!!!

@JJ2 Exclusives are good for the companies, not for consumers. People value different ways of enjoying their games. Portable, console, PC, controller, motion controls, keyboard-mouse, VR etc... There is no benefit to us, the consumer/gamer for a game to be limited to one platform. It's only good for the companies.

@Heavyarms55
It's a long debate. I respect your opinion but your wrong 🙃
Imagine a world without PlayStation exclusives from the beginning of console gaming. When I say without, I mean those games never existed.
And thats only one point

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Why do you think that say, a game like GOW ps4 was supported by Sony? Instead of doing some easily developed Gaas full of MTs

@JJ2 Sorry but no, you don't get to just unilaterally declare that. I don't think exclusives are inherently bad or anything, but they do not benefit the consumer at all. They are good for the companies that put them out but a game only being on PS4 or only on Switch or only on Xbone or whatever console doesn't have any benefit for the gamer. It limits who can enjoy it. Only a smaller portion of gamers can actually afford to buy several consoles.

Your suggesting of a world where Playstation exclusives never existed doesn't make any sense. Sony as a corporate entity did not make those games, people made them. Talented and creative developers. Sony is just one company, if Sony didn't exist, maybe they'd work for some other company, or form their own.

A game like GOW PS4 was supported by Sony for the sole reason of benefiting Sony. By keeping it on their platform alone they attract more customers that way. But I don't believe for a moment that GOW couldn't have happened if the rights for it, and the team behind it were working as a 3rd party studio.

I think it's fine that companies make their own exclusive titles, but I don't want to see them buying up 3rd party studios and forcing them to stop selling multi-plat.

@Heavyarms55
I'm not saying they are a charity organisation or something;)
Look it's funny people give so much credit to Nintendo for their exclusives but can't see the logic behind it for other companies.
Whatever 🤷‍♂️

There very little chance the original GOW, and even less GOW ps4, would have happened in an alternate reality where Sony doesn't make games.

@JJ2 Nintendo didn't buy their exclusives by taking over 3rd party studios. They haven't even taken over 2nd party studios they work with, like Game Freak or Intelligent Systems. Most of the big Nintendo exclusives were made by Nintendo's own staff. By comparison, most of Sony's were developed by other studios that they own and not their own in-house employees.

But if they tried to, I'd be saying the same thing: I don't like 1st parties buying 3rd parties and making them into exclusives.

It's fine for companies to have them, but it's better for gamers for games to be multi-platform.

And to be clear, I don't like this sort of thing in other industries either. I don't like it when Sony or Disney buy other movie studios, same with car companies and computer companies. Better for the consumer if companies are forced to compete to win their customers. When big companies start buying out all the little ones, they get too powerful and no longer have to pay attention to large swathes of consumers.

Example: Disney, even though millions of people don't actually like their live action remakes of classic animated films, millions of other people still show up and watch, so Disney doesn't have to care.

@Heavyarms55
Well my reference to Nintendo logic is more like they'd be dead without exclusive games and so would PlayStation.
Even xbox only exist thanks to Halo.
Some people dont see it but without exclusive I'd be playing on PC instead of playstation. simple as that.

@Heavyarms55 Just chiming in, but I do think there's a merit to exclusives. Normally, games are made to make money. Look at anything EA produces these days, and it's clear that their games are just lifeless vessels to sell more digital rubbish to consumers.

The big difference with exclusive games is that they don't have to make money by themselves. They exist to sell a console. More console sales means more third party sales, meaning more royalty fees. That's why Sony allows games like The Last Guardian to happen. They aren't made to make money, but I do think it has a long term positive effect on the brand. It's the same reason why they tell their studios to take their time and polish the games for as long as they want. No tight schedules (I mean, everything is within reason of course), because a polished experience will do them more good in the long run than low effort cash grab.

@Octane I don't entirely disagree, but I don't agree either. Yes exclusives are made to sell a console but they are still made to make money by pushing that console. I already said several times, I don't think it's wrong for companies to have their own exclusives but I don't want them buying up 3rd parties to do it.

I firmly believe that 3rd parties are as an idea at least, better for the consumer/gamer, they let use pick how we want to play a game. When a first party buys a company/IP they are taking that choice away from the player and telling them "it's our way now or you don't get to play".

And yes, you can point to the worst of 3rd parties, like EA and Activision and point out how 3rd party titles are just money grubbers, but you can also point to plenty of first party exclusives where they just slapped an IP on a mediocre game and called it a day.

@JJ2 "Some people dont see it but without exclusive I'd be playing on PC instead of playstation. simple as that." In this sense, for traditional game consoles, I completely agree. Without exclusive titles there is little benefit in 2019 to a dedicated game console, rather than a PC. That's a big part of why I praised the Nintendo Switch, for providing an alternative rather than another box under the TV. The Switch provides something different than PC in and of itself.

@Heavyarms55
Yea dont get me wrong though. I love consoles. Simply the evolution of gaming From my personal experience I went from arcades to consoles, to gaming computers, to full PC, to consoles again.
Handheld gaming is different. It's in addition. They dont compete with home gaming, except for in Japan maybe haha
All that is only regarding the existence of consoles though. I find there are many more advantages to having exclusives other than just mere surviving for console gaming. I'm happy that PlayStation has an identity to please some gamers in the same way as Im happy xbox has an identity to please other gamers. Diversity is good
That's a whole debate though and all opinions are fine.

@JJ2 Yeah, I agree. Competition between formats breeds innovation. I like that we have consoles, PC, portable gaming and even... I suppose... mobile games.

But the problem we can run into is when only one company has the rights to something. Look at EA, they have the exclusive license to make the official football, American Football, and other sports titles using the actual teams and player rosters. No one else is allowed to make those games and it has led EA to be able to milk and abuse fan loyalty for decades with only very very little improvement. And these are just games. It would be worse with only one console on the market. So I am glad Sony and Microsoft and Nintendo all exist and do different things.

That said, I want them to do their own things, without buying up 3rd parties. (Although I would not cry if other companies ripped EA apart and broke their monopolies on various sports and IP, but that's a whole different conversation.)

@Heavyarms55
Of course, you have very good points with EA.
Btw I hope you dont mind me replying somehow late or let me know if you do. I feel PushSquare is more about community chat since they dont cover much news tbh.
I often say theres no black or white. There are good and bad sides. Even in the bad theres some good. Look at Remedy for instance. It's great they make multi plat games but it seems a bit shady the way the company is run I wouldn't be surprised if they get to close down at some point unless, unless Sony or others buy them up. Also if Sony buys them theres a lot of advantage considering studio cooperation etc. It would be a good thing I believe.
I'm not pretending I know what I'm talking about though haha just my feeling

Also I like being straightforward and virtue signalling is something I find even more ridiculous than brand fanaticism. If Sony gets more first party studios I m totally happy about it. Ì m on playstation ecosystem so that thumbs up from me