Speculation surrounding Sony and Microsoft's next generation consoles continues to grow. Although we know a decent amount about the PlayStation 5 and the next Xbox, there are still a number of key questions that need to be answered. No doubt the most common of these questions is to do with cost -- what are we going to be paying for these machines when they hit the market in late 2020?
Of course, we're not going to have confirmation until some point next year, but Xbox boss Phil Spencer is already hinting that his company's device will go toe-to-toe with the PS5. "We will not be out of position on power or price," Spencer told The Verge, commenting on Xbox's approach to next-gen.
Price has always been a deciding factor in how each console generation plays out -- especially when two competing consoles launch around the same time. Although it did surpass its competitor in the long run, the PS3 certainly suffered due to its infamous $599 price tag on release, and this generation saw a similar story unfold with the Xbox One, which arrived on the scene at $499 -- it was $100 more expensive than the PS4.
Naturally, Microsoft isn't keen on producing the most expensive console again in 2020, but Spencer says that it also doesn't want to lose out in terms of hardware power. "If you remember the beginning of this generation we were a hundred dollars more expensive and yes, we were less powerful. And we started Project Scarlett with this leadership team in place with a goal of having market success," Spencer continues.
It's essentially fighting talk from the Xbox chief, who knows that the company can't let Sony dominate the market all over again. Could it be that we'll end up with two consoles that are just about the same price and offer the same level of technical heft? One thing's for sure: next year won't be short on excitement.
[source theverge.com]
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Them's fightin' words. I love it! Let them keep each other on their toes and the consumer wins.
Truth be told, I'm fully expecting the PS5 and Xbox Next to be virtually identical in power and general specification.
To me this sounds more like "we're having the less powerful console again but not so less powerful", just like OG PS4 and XOne. The thing that worries me the most is pricing; with the SSD and Raytracing talk I'm expecting a 500-600 bucks for both machines and that would be a disaster like the PS3 launch. They could use some sort of credit deal letting you pay a small amount first and the rest on monthly fees through PS+ and XLA Gold.
Competition is great for the consumer, so hope they do well.
Power and price are one thing, but what about innovative features that feel like a proper next gen experience? It sounds like Microsoft are content with trying to match the specs of the PS5, but I would like to see them take more initiative in explaining how their console will differ from the PS5, not just match it.
I'll be curious to see how load times differ between games on each console, with Sony touting this hybrid SSD feature.
But NOT match SONY's PS5 Exclusives I bet Which is the most important thing in the end. So BOO to the new Xbox TV DRM 2(or whatever it will be called)
Lol. 2 Xbox 1s here....sigh....that conference was crap. Everything was MP or Live focused or ports that Sony and or Nintendo have had for years. I just dont know what MS is thinking. Or maybe their core demographic is teen/early 20s only. Not a peep on if Fable is dead or alive, nothing on Infinite and not one SP focused new IP announced. Its like they look across the aisle at Sony and DONT see the massive success or what gamers want. Easily my least favorite console of all time. And i loved my OG Xbox and 360...rrod and all
@DeepSpace5D if will differ by lacking meaningful new u
IPs. Forza Halo Gears yawn
Next gen is going to be all about the exclusive content as the main battleground. They all know each other's specs at this point. Sony is hardly being secretive about it after all.
Microsoft knows this, which is why they are snapping up so many studios to try and compete.
The reason (in my opinion) that ps4 was such an obvious buy for so many straight off the bat, was because the final years of ps3 saw innovative and interesting release one after another. This has followed Sony into this gen and is why they have performed so well.
So whichever company has the best exclusive software will see the greatest success . Its just not enough to claim to be the most powerful anymore.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were differences - not monumental differences but differences. MS have DirectX 12 and DXR too for example so that could be a difference that means the relative power difference (if any) has a bigger impact on performance.
If MS use DXR for ray tracing for example and its more expensive than the Ray tracing Sony opts for, if you have 2 identical power GPU's for example, Sony would get better performance because MS's needs more for its Ray Tracing.
Power is relative and efficiency, latency etc can make two identical GPU's in terms of computational power have quite different performance. As well as the differences that may be built in - such as Vulkan vs DX12 or DXR vs whatever Ray Tracing Sony go with.
MS's Xbox too was more expensive because MS bundled Kinect in with it at launch. Removing it also meant MS could cut the price so you were only paying for a console.Its better to compare the price of the Players Edition bundle with the camera as that brought the prices much closer or look at the price when MS dropped Kinect so each 'bundle' were now similar. You can't say the Xbox One was $500 when it also had a $120 (or thereabouts) Kinect as well as the console.
Still, I am looking forward to the next gen from both Sony and MS. I am ready for them now....
They're going to be roughly the same at the end of the day. I expect same price, same specs. They'll be minor feature and policy differences, of course, but even the software lineups will be largely the same.
Love competition, but I doubt it'll match its power. A lot of the leaks from devs have been saying Sonys new system will be the more powerful system, even if only slightly.
what about the games 🤣
I get the feeling the next generation won't see a clear market leader for a good few years. Where things will be by say, 2023 obviously remains to be seen, but either way, Playstation is going to be just fine.
Personal biases aside, Sony's track record kind of speaks for itself.
If you love big single player games the only choice is Sony. The Xbox one and ps4 had the same Chip yet Sony had more power. I still don't understand that one. Anyway I hope Microsoft does a lot better this gen. The only way they are going to gain market share is to have 3 home runs in power, price, and software titles. Unfortunately I don't think Microsoft can and the gap will widen more in Sony's favor next gen.
The two consoles will most likely be very similar, like others have mentioned.
At the end of the day, it really boils down to which long running exclusive franchises will sway buyers.
I've always loved Sony and Nintendo, so I'll always choose them over an Xbox, but that doesn't mean I don't love some of their franchises like Gears and Halo. I do have a soft spot in my heart for Xbox. And PC.
I remember the first time microsoft said about scarlet is “it will eat monster” or something like that, now it becomes “it will match ps5 power”, hmm I think ps5 is the more powerful console and he already know it..
We All Know This Will All Come Down To The Games
Sweet! A price war. How low can you go?
@Nyne11Tyme True, but at least they have Obsidian now. Might even be Microsoft’s best studio. Ninja Theory is capable of a great game as well, but I wasn’t very impressed by their next project.
Sounds a weird one. I'm sure he knows exactly what's in the ps5 devkit despite what he said a few months ago and hes got a good understanding of what the spec will be. However how could he know the ps5 price?
Interestingly he admits they were discussing about giving up in the console space a few years ago. Now apparently Ms is interested in 'market success' in hardware again unlike what they ve been saying many times
Idk he keeps contradicting himself.
🤷♂️ and people set J Ryan on fire (still now years later) because he said ps1 gt graphics look bad now that actually makes sense.
I don't see there being a big difference between these two as they'll be sharing a lot of the technology between them. As an owner of both Pro and X some of the best looking games I've played this gen are still the likes of Horizon, God of War and Spider-Man and easily match of not better Microsofts best efforts despite the huge deficit in power between them. Sure the likes of RDR2 look much sharper on X but the best looking game I've seen on either console is Death Stranding.
The biggest difference will be down to games and Microsoft are still addressing this issue whilst Sony have several high profile sequels waiting and a great recent track record
Backwards compatibility is a must for PS5 to see off the Microsoft challenge during the early years of the next generation.
@Orange_Man_Bad That's true. So, of the 100 million PS4 units sold, even if only half of them are in full time use, that's 50 million users with a direct, obvious upgrade path to the PS5 unless Sony really foul up.
Did Microsoft ever release any XBone sales figures recently or were they too embarrassed?
@Neolit
That's BS anyway though. Honest question. How the heck does he know? Even Sony may not be sure about the price yet.
@Enuo
You might be right in the US but worldwide is playstation from the get go imho
So let's say they come out at about the same power and price points.
It'll come down to the games right? And everyone knows Sony has the best exclusives. Except... At the PS4 launch what did we have? Killzone, Knack and Resogun?
Long term we'll have them beat but if they say they're launching with a brand new Halo, what'll we have? That's the interesting question.
being equal in terms of power and price wont help if they have no games again
they need a proper system seller which this gen they never really had
if they make gamepass and live optional, dont have online gaming behind a paywall. then continue to focus on backward compatiblity and sell at $299. yes ms will take a financial hit, but they will do very good nextgen in the long run, and that is what count.
But they have to say that, don't they.
Microsoft may not have to compete directly with Sony on price but rather lower the barrier of entry by offering the same 24 months Game Pass + Xbox Scarlett plan. Since this is a monthly payment, it will give them an edge if both PS5 and Scarlett ends up expensive.
Sony certainly has an edge over Xbox but price will still be key in driving mass adoption. Efficient use of the high speed SSD can lower cost significantly. Sony needs to ensure that Backward Compatibility not only work but also provide meaningful benefits on the new system. Recent first party titles, even exclusives should at least be getting a 60fps and 4K patch.
Microsoft and Google are companies with lots of cash, Sony will have to tread carefully to retain their leader.
To be honest, I am expecting two very similar devices with similar prices and entries. The differences will be in content and subscriptions because that is where the money is. Sony had an advantage in more mature development teams producing top tier first party content and is going into it with a strong digital library that is transferable. That said, Gamepass is excellent value and Microsoft know it. They are throwing masses of cash at it.
It.. is... onnnnn
microsoft already has the most powerful box, it also has the cheapest box, yet look at last week's console sales. US: PS4 80k, xb1 46k. EU: PS 138k, xb1 23k. the switch is king worldwide at the minute (still beaten by a 6-year old console in europe though). power and price are not that big a factor really. some of MS's struggles are historic. not sure how he knows they're going to be at least as powerful and as cheap as PS5 either. any bets on Game Pass/xCloud ending up on PS5 and/or Nintendo?
@leucocyte switch is not king worldwide Playstation is the numbers are clear.
all I know is I will 100% get a PS5 on launch day! I won't be getting an Xbox I might maybe 2 or 3 years later cheaper. hopefully, be enough time to see what sort of games they will make with the studios.
Xbox 1 left a bitter taste in my mouth about the Xbox brand still to this day.
@David187 - i didn't mean lifetime numbers, i meant selling right now. switch has been selling better in the US and Japan lately.. but to be fair, for a 6-year old machine, the PS4 is putting up a respectable showing against it.
my main problem with xbox is that it's made by microsoft. it could be twice as powerful and half the price, i still wouldn't buy an xbox2 because it's microsoft.
I go where the best games are and Sony consistently wins there, Microsoft don't even show up to that battle as far as I'm concerned. Although they have got Obsidian now, so I suspect I'll miss out in not playing their games.
@DeepSpace5D didn’t they try that with the xbox one having to be bundled with Kinect? That didn’t work out so well for them with the $100 premium over the PS4
Wow lol.
"And we started Project Scarlett with this leadership team in place with a goal of having market success,"
@JoeBlogslol right?! though I've personally always liked Pepsi more. Use to argue about it with my family lol
If the machines are as similar as they say...
It almost seems silly, the market will be split with zero upside.
I guess you could say it will lower prices, but it will also weakens the players.
If MS & Sony are going for the high-end, I almost wish they'd work together.
Alot of people own both formats, it would save them alot of money next time.
It'll be down to games and Sony have way better IP's. M$ I think need to reinvent themselves completely and loose most of their boring IP's and replace them with brand new one's.
Sony and Nintendo will destroy them.
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