Horizon Forbidden West narrative director John Gonzalez has left Guerrilla Games, moving to a new AAA studio in Barcelona where he’ll be tasked with building an original open world with “a new cadre of like-minded, crazy-ambitious devs”. It’s unclear exactly which team he’s joined, though online scuttlebutt points to Smilegate Barcelona – a new studio founded by the South Korean creators of CrossFire.
Gonzalez, who also wrote Fallout: New Vegas, played a massive role in the development of Horizon Zero Dawn. In addition to creating the title’s overarching lore, he wrote 90 per cent of the main quest and served as an editor to other writers. He’s also contributed heavily to the development of the title’s forthcoming PlayStation 5 sequel.
His resume reads: “Created the game's story and major characters, designing the narrative flow of the main quest beat-by-beat. Collaborated intensely with design to unite narrative and gameplay and with art to realise the game's new tribes and key locations. Wrote key cinematics, conversations, and other content.”
With the follow-up due out in 2021, it’s likely that Gonzalez’s work on Horizon Forbidden West is largely complete now, and after spending over seven years in Amsterdam, it’s no surprise that he feels ready to move on at this point. Nevertheless, we’re looking forward to experiencing the fruits of his labour when the sequel launches next year.
[source linkedin.com]
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@Kirbyboy92 the sky is falling!
Loads of good writers out there. This is not that big of a deal.
@Kirbyboy92 I'm sure there are many other talented writers at Guerrilla Games.
@Kirbyboy92 Its possible he already outline the Story arc of the Trilogy. So another writer can dialogue for the 3rd game and it could still be great.
@get2sammyb
To be fair in @kirbyboy92's defence they said something similar when talent started walking away from Naughty Dog. Then we got TLOU2, which while it wasn't that bad it doesn't hold a candle to the original. Atleast in regards to the writing, characters and story.
@GADG3Tx87 In your opinion it doesn’t hold a candle to the original.
I think it exceeds it. See how opinions work 😉
@Kirbyboy92 You do know he's not the only GOOD writer out there?
@GADG3Tx87 The writer for TLOU is still at ND
Doubt this impacts Forbidden West much, like Sammy says it would reason that the story is pretty much done. Talent moves on all the time, hard to argue with someone wanting to be on the ground floor of a new studio with AAA dreams, especially in a city like Barcelona. Good luck to him and whoever takes over for him at Guerilla!
If he wrote the part near the end of HZD where you have to fend off multiple waves of Deathbringers, Watchers, Longlegs, Glinthawks and a Stormbird on ultra hard mode then good riddance!
Only joking. With HZD and New Vegas on his CV he's a talented writer, I wish him all the best.
Pretty heavy loss. I wish him the best, where he moves on. I hope they have some one to replace him. I'd hate for them to ***** the bed on the sequel (pardon my french).
@GADG3Tx87 Neil Druckmann wrote the script for The Last Of Us. Many people assume Neil did not do anything in studio when clearly he`s the major reason why people loved part 1.
@PeakyBlinder
I know that. But it's also well known that key people were responsible for the direction the final game took.
It has been insinuated that key people left who disagreed with Neil's ideas for the sequel and refused to budge. The result is TLOU2.
As I said, don't get me wrong, it was ok. But it was no where near the masterpiece of the original.
I do share what some have said that the characters didn't feel right, I didn't feel the same connection as I did in the original.
It just proves that sometimes, certain people are responsible for the success of a game. It is a worry when key people leave. It's a valid concern.
Yeah you can be flippant and say there are plenty more fish in the sea, but the simple fact is he going to be a tough act to follow. Horizon would have been a lot different had they not got him on board, he really reworked things when he joined the project apparently.
Its a worry in the sense that before Horizon we had killzone and....yeah, the storytelling wasn't brilliant. But Guerilla are a different beast now. They will be well aware of the importance of story after the success of Horizon, so i am sure they will be looking to fill that position shortly, if they have not already done so
Also please can we not link every story back to TLOU2 in the comments. Its exhausting.
@GADG3Tx87 In my opinion, last of us 1 was a “pretty good game”, but I think last of us 2 is incredible, and that’s not joking.
7 years??!! A long weekend in Amsterdam and I'm bolloxed 😜
Interesting news.
Obviously none of us really know the impact this guy had on HZD or the follow up but it is intriguing whenever someone leaves what's presumably quite an important role in one of the biggest first party IPs.
Lots of things must go on behind the scenes that we have no idea have, but hopefully they've parted ways amicably and it suits both John and the rest of Guerrilla Games.
@GADG3Tx87 I understand what you getting at
The culture in the Netherlands is not that one person is mainly responsible for everything. Sure Guerrilla needed help when they started with their open world endeavor. They hired the best in the industrie and learned from them. Now other writers who were able to grow over the years are able to develop the third part of the trilogy.
@MarcG420 it's not only his opinion ( @GADG3Tx87 ) he's stating facts, TLOUII doesn't hold a candle to the original regards story, characters and writing, but it it seems like you're one those weird woke mentality fans, so no wonder you like this one...
@Pain-Nagato-Sama look, you’re clearly trolling. Someone’s subjective opinion on a piece of art (in this case a game) is not a fact no matter how much you wish it was.
@Rob_230 Whilst you are definitely right Killzone never had the best story if it means we get another one like the last one they did I will be very happy
To me, the dialogue in Horizon was tedious at best. Let's hope they've streamlined it for part 2.
Unpopular opinion; the story in HZD wasn't all that special to begin with.
@MarcG420 trolling? How? Because i agree with someone else on something extremely obvious?
Listen, you're one of those woke mentality fans, so i understand (or at least i'm trying) the way you see things...
@Pain-Nagato-Sama Listen bud. You have no idea “how I see things”. All I’ve said is the second game exceeded the first in my opinion.
Just because you say your opinion is fact does not make it so.
Everything about your reply says you’re trolling. Poorly at that. 0/10 get some skill before trying to troll otherwise it just comes across as pathetic as it has here.
@Pain-Nagato-Sama I do, the first game does a good job of showing how emotion and selfishness can override logic and the greater good, the second game shows that violence inevitably leads to more violence and the good side is often decided by your perspective. I don’t expect all who play or experience the story to agree and that’s fine. Good art always leads to strong opinions.
Your trolling attempts were the only sad part of this conversation.
@Pain-Nagato-Sama I think we can stop with the insults right now.
@Pain-Nagato-Sama the first TLOU game was a pure dumpster fire. So, it wouldn't take much for the second game to improve on it. The gameplay loop of the first sucked. The story was tepid. The mechanics of collectibles being completely missable and needing a whole new playthrough to obtain was tedious. The character of Joel was completely unbelievable. The actress for Ellie is and was awful, she waffles between very wooden and extremely over the top.
There is a TEAM that works on a game. As such, some parts are better than others. No one writer makes or breaks a game.
As far as your "woke" comments go, I'm not really sure how they are relevant to the TLOU franchise. The character of Ellie as a lesbian was established in the first game, but is also in no way crucial to the story line.
I was critical of TLOU2 as they set insanely high expectation but after that I tried for the third time HZD I have realized how ungrateful I am LOL.
Horizon after intro turned into very average story - it's not about story complexity and abundance of characters but about simplicity and execution.
@MarcG420 you misspelled "in most people's opinions"
@roe we know exactly the impact that he had on it he wrote most of it.
The third one is going to blow. Stephen King and George Martin are both world renowned authors but if you ask Stephen King to finish game of thrones it would suck. I would bet money that's what's going to happen with the third game.
@Diamonddave89 you misspelled “I’m talking out of my ass because I think my opinion is shared by “most people” without having any objective way of proving it”.
@Diamonddave89 well he was credited as the narrative director but we still don't know exactly what he brought to the game, what his ideas were compared to the other writers etc. That's my point. It's impossible to judge from the outside and we know even less about what he'd have done for this new game
Seems like all the devs in the world want a pie of Sony. While others buy talent, Sony is known to nurture them. But yeah, a pretty big loss. After HZD, I had high hopes for a Killzone reboot. Still do, only not as excited. Fallout:NV?? Faking 'ell mate, that's a cracker of an experience to have...
@PeakyBlinder He wasn't alone though. Bruce Straley was a major contributor to how the game actually shaped into being. And even though the 2nd part is good, the newly introduced characters were incredibly bland and forgettable. Part 1 was a journey, part 2 was an experience, one that I'm not a fan of.
PS. Do watch this docu by GVMERS on how TLoU came to be, and some other games as well. You'll come to love the effort they put into making these videos. The video is available here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v9JjC7hrHc
Good luck to him, I didn't play much of New Vegas but I read a few times that the writing is excellent. Hopefully this new Horizon game is as well, looking forward to playing it.
@MarcG420 no. You're the one that's clearly talking out of your ass it's obvious to anyone who pays attention. The vast majority of the comments and reviews of the game do not support your opinion. you should go buy some preparation H because it also sounds like your pretty butt hurt that I have a different opinion than you.
@Diamonddave89 got it, so not only do you like to make broad opinion statements without proof you’re also a twelve year old 😂.
@Loftimus Agreed. In my humble opinion most overhyped exclusive on PS4. Story looks good on paper but it lacks soul. Even solid combat couldn't save that game for me. I've actually gave it another go after completing TLOU2 and after few hours I have realised although not perfect Naughty Dog spoiled me a little bit.
I quietly hoped that his involvement was minimal for the Horizon sequel but if he wrote most of the story already it looks like another dud for me.
I'd have more hope if his involvement in this sequel was minimal to non-existent, but it doesn't seem like that'll be the case. The first game's story was so boring and forgettable, it's a shame this dude got a opportunity to write another boring and forgettable follow up. Oh well. Hope the gameplay is at least a step up from the first
@GADG3Tx87
I think they did a magnificent job on TLOU2.
TLOU did perfectly well with how they balanced the brutality with the story. But I liked the brutality of TLOU2 better. It was quite compelling and the story was well set-up. Definitely GOTY for me (atm, maybe until CP 2077 comes out)
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