Gabe Newell may not want to check his social media notifications after appearing on a New Zealand television show today, because he was asked whether he prefers the PlayStation 5 or Xbox Series X – and, well, his answer won’t earn him a Christmas card from Sony bigwig Jim Ryan. The Valve co-founder, who’s been quarantining overseas for several months, was unflinching when he selected Microsoft’s system.
Asked to elaborate on why he prefers the Redmond firm’s format, he simply answered: “Er, because it is.” He went on to clarify: “I don’t have a stake in that race. Obviously, we do most of our development on personal computers, but of the two I would definitely go with an Xbox.” To be fair, Valve has generally enjoyed a stronger relationship with Microsoft dating back to the Left 4 Dead days, but Portal 2’s release on the PlayStation 3 did help to thaw relations somewhat.
With so little context to the statement, it’s unclear why Newell feels the way he does. In terms of PS5 vs Xbox Series X tech specs, Microsoft’s machine has a marginal teraflops advantage – although the speed of Sony’s system is significantly faster. It’s a slightly disappointing comment because we had hoped that Half-Life: Alyx would eventually make its way to a hypothetical next-gen PSVR headset, but then we suppose Newell’s personal preferences wouldn’t exactly prevent that from happening anyway.
[source youtube.com, via techradar.com]
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Well the Series X is technically more powerful I guess, but the PS5 is confirmed to have VR, which is what valve seems to be going for.
Never like valves games anyway.i dont like portal.but thats his opinion.ps5 is still gonna outsold x box.word up son
Gabe's starting to look like an increasingly powerful wizard.
I mean, nobody makes and awkward system when asked why thr PS5 is better, they give reasons. Him being unable to answer the question does not inspire confidence.
I would have respected his comment if he actually explained something. Kinda sad for him to be in his position, and the best claim he could make is "because it is" . This indirectly looks worse for the xbox, because he can't even say why its better. Couldn't even say because of the 11.8 tf? Smh
This makes me skeptical that Half-life: Alyx will come to PS5/PSVR2
Where’s that meme at that showed all of this past gens Xbox reviews vs PlayStations?
The games are my deciding factor in purchasing a PS5.
Well, the history that fantastic games release on PlayStations.
"Obviously, we do most of our development on personal computers..."
Wait, what development? You sure you're still making games? 😂
I'm sure in the past if you asked him if why he thought Artifact would do as well as or better than Hearthstone, he'd have said "er, because it will".
And he can't give any clarification as to why he prefers one over the other. Seems rather fishy to me.
If you actually prefer something surely you know why YOU like it. The fact he is fumbling for an answer seems very odd.
Or maybe I'm just crazy in that when I choose to buy something I know why I chose it over a competing product after weighing out the pros and cons in my circumstances.
@ShogunRok I heard somewhere they all gather in New Zealand to gather magical resources.
Valve makes allot of money off of Microsoft cause of well Windows is one of the main operating systems AND (the biggest reason) all the Xbox games that are on Steam and those that are coming.
If he had said he prefers PlayStation that would have been outrageous and nothing would stop Microsoft from removing their entire library so yeah 🤷
Maybe If PlayStation puts all it's exclusives on Steam Gabe will have a change of heart, maybe.
Well *****, better start packing boys...
Has he had issues with Sony?
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
He works mainly with pc so he will always say Microsoft. He also said he doesn't have an interest in this particular race which indicates he doesn't care and doesn't know much about either so he just picked xbox. It's very obvious from his actual words.
@Juanalf
Well, not really. Steam can also run on Linux, OSX and has its own SteamOS. One does not need Microsoft in order to play Steam games contrary to popular belief. It hasn't been that way for a while.
Check the system requirements for most games and nowadays they include specs for Linux and OSX too.
smh I guess Gabe hasn't heard of the upcoming masterpiece that is the Atari VCS
Sorry, Gaben the White, but I have to disagree. Owning an Xbox alongside a PC is pointless. AS a console, PS5 will still be more worthwhile thanks to its strong Japanese support and inevitable flood of high-quality exclusives.
I think, if you mostly care about Western releases and don't want to have to spend a ton of money, there's an easy argument to be made for the appeal of Series X as a GamePass machine, though.
@Sam-Bridges he's a nihilist dude
Well of course.
I dont know why this man saying he likes Xbox is somehow news.
Who cares. People from the gaming industry pick sides all the time. While PS5 might not get too much Valve stuff, it's not like the actual output from Valve is that vast. We're talking about The Orange Box, and that's pretty much it.
let's be honest he has always been an Xbox supporter he hated the PS3 as well but I think not backing up why is because he just always went with Xbox.
@Arugula you mean mass-debater old chap?
Well I prefer PS5 because I think it's better then Xbox SX.... because it is!!!
See, two can play that game Gabe.
@JJ2 because this site likes to tell us all about Xbox a little to much.
Ha, short and not very sweet!
🙄
Not if you prefer sp titles mate!
Sony rules, Xbox drools.
😉
Equivalent to “I know you are but what am I?” In an argument with someone
Next Gen its just a fact that the Xbox SX is quite a lot faster than the PS5. Its no good looking at the PS5 max boost clock and comparing with the Xbox base clock as saying its only "a marginal teraflops advantage" Its just not true. Its going to be a 30%+ advantage. But that's OK. Its not just about power its the games. They are why I bought a nintendo switch and why I have always owned, and always will own, a Playstation.
Gabe has aged very badly.
I see even the mighty Gabe Newell has been affected by the barbers being closed during lockdown.
@avenovah I knew someone would point out the obvious 😁
Yeah, I know it's weird to say that now that they've actually released a game, but how many years went by without any games prior to Alyx? And how many will pass before they release another one? Let's hope not as many!
Nice argument, it sort of sounds like the ones a 5 year old kid makes.
@TooBarFoo
So Xbox is going to have Domino pizzas 30% bigger than PlayStation?
From a blog post regarding Velocity Architecture:
"Through the massive increase in I/O throughput, hardware accelerated decompression, DirectStorage, and the significant increases in efficiency provided by Sampler Feedback Streaming, the Xbox Velocity Architecture enables the Xbox Series X to deliver effective performance well beyond the raw hardware specs, providing direct, instant, low level access to more than 100GB of game data stored on the SSD just in time for when the game requires it. These innovations will unlock new gameplay experiences and a level of depth and immersion unlike anything you have previously experienced in gaming."
So is Sony's "significantly faster"?! I personally don't think so. I think Sony's raw-speed takes some strain off the development process since developers have less to do to get the desired results than with Microsoft's solution. But, I think the end-product results will be identical between Microsoft and Sony - at least from the "getting stuff from storage" aspect.
Also, if people really are blowing up Gabe's social media because he stated his preference for Series X, shame on people! He has a preference, who cares?! God forbid someone doesn't prefer the PS5 like it's the ultimate hate crime or something.
I like Microsoft's approach for Series X better because backwards compatibility improvements and Game Pass matter to me; however, I like Sony's exclusive games better than Microsoft's.
I am more excited for Series X because it's overall ecosystem is more exciting to me at the moment. I like that when I buy a Series X, I only have to buy the system as all the games I want to play are covered under Game Pass at no extra cost to me (literally, I don't pay for Game Pass). I like that legacy games will run using the full power of the hardware out of the box - even if that just means games finally running at a locked framerate.
Despite all that, it doesn't change the fact that Microsoft's exclusive games don't have the same visual and animation fidelity of Sony's - they don't "feel" the same. I don't like that Microsoft has a huge focus on first-person titles that are all about "pew pew pew!" 120fps is nice, but I am still running everything on a TV from 2011. No UHD, no HDR, and certainly no 120Hz.
@Juanalf lol microsoft isn't that petty
@Juanalf
Or it could just he thinks the Xbox is better, and there isn’t a Conspiracy there. Crazy, I know....
“ we had hoped that Half-Life: Alyx would eventually make its way to a hypothetical next-gen PSVR headset, but then we suppose Newell’s personal preferences wouldn’t exactly prevent that from happening anyway.”
Of course it won’t. They’re a business. If there’s money to be made they’ll chase it.
I always enjoy watching the media downplay the power difference in as creative as language as possible.
Makes me even more content in career choice.
@DarkLloyd Yeah I agree 🙂 Microsoft's only goal is to make money so they definitely wouldn't do that, I was just having fun. In fact I will not be surprised if later on we start to see Xbox games (Minecraft aside) on PlayStation. They eventually want to be a service for all.
This from a man who thought the "Steam Box" was going to be a thing.
Twice 🤦♂️
After comparing the ps and xbox games event I don't even believe xbox x is better than ps4 pro, or that TF number is meaningful number to analyze console power, I mean just looks at this:
it's like fries or chips, Microsoft is trying to brute force cross gen games into mo' pixels, Sony's approach is more elegant in my opinion.
Playstation fans shrug their shoulders at Gabe Newell.
Xbox fans get mad at Domino's pizza.
I'm surprised microsoft hasn't done more to integrate xbox with steam somehow, a console that can run and install PC games would surely dominate next gen
Ya know what? Who gives a s**t!
AND....The first thing I see on twitter is Tom Warren litterally bragging that Series X is 'obviously better'.
I dont know about the launch of current gen but Next Gen launch you see a lot of journalist keyboard warriors are VERY involved in console wars.. weird and ridiculous.
Edit
I dont even follow him. It came up as PS5 topic news.
Always found him to be a big talking, opinionated guy.... No need to listen. I could prefer PS5 and my best mate Series X.... Does it matter?.... nope, its called choice.
@AdamNovice I don't care about Gabe has to say, never has, especially when he doesn't explains why... Now, that Domino's ad towards Halo Infinity, even though harsh, was pretty funny at the same time.
Love it..gabe voices his oppinion (1 of god knows how many) knowing that every fanboy is going to jump in feet first and keep him "relevant" when really if everybody just ignored these hyper rich trolls they would just fade away into obscurity..loved half life and the left for dead series but what else has valve contributed to the gaming scene..
@avenovah Half-Life: Alyx was entirely on PC. The same as all their other projects this generation.
@Royalblues Fair enough, there’s always that initial phase where games are made concurrently for PS4/PS5 so they don’t feel like a major step up. Curious which game you think will be the first to feel truly next-gen? And what is it your looking for to really wow you?
For me I feel it’s going to be either HZD 2 or God of War 2 (whichever is out first). And I think the overall lighting/details in not just the main character but all NPC’s will go a long way as even with Ghost of Tsushima they can sometimes still look and feel a little cartoony at times.
“With so little context to the statement, it’s unclear why Newell feels the way he does”
Maybe, but let’s think for a second. Sony and Epic are quite clearly partnering up for next-gen. The Unreal 5 demo was tailor made and customized to show off the PS5’s capabilities. Sony afterwards purchased a $250 million stake in Epic.
Epic launched their game store for PC that competes directly with Steam, and has been picking up market share and poaching developer’s from the Steam store with aggressive tactics and giving a larger cut to the developers than Steam does.
To me, it’s no surprise why Gabe Newell would show support for the Xbox over PS5.
@Trajan This is nothing, you should see the comments on articles that mention Phil Spencer.
At least PSquare got the Headline right.
He pick XSX over PS5, that's it.
Not sure why any of us should really care. He didn't say Half Life 3 was coming out. We have to keep making this a console war? Why?
It makes sense he would pick Series X as its most likely closer to PC's then the PS5 is, he's actually always favoured Xbox over PS and that includes the X1.
The GabeN has spoken. He doesn't need to give reasons. His word is pretty much law.
same fat feck that lits russian mafia money launder like hell on his site and every two bit con man under the sun steal ***** and release it on his platform. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Epic rules lol
lol is he going to say this kind of thing again he said ps3 was trash and after that he announced best version of portal on ps3 . now he is saying xbox is better than ps5 nice to see best version of half life 3 on ps5 .
@Trajan Irrelevant what The demo was in, it was graphically the most impressive showing to date for next-gen with Digital Foundry even saying resolution didn’t matter in the demo when it looks as incredible as it does with 8k assets being used of movie quality. It was also actually playable and running on a PS5, which is something the competition cannot say for their demos.
I think Gabe cares tbh. I think Gabe cares about that honestly. Gabe worked at Microsoft for what, 13 years? He’s a DX12 and PC guy. Steam is his baby. It’s no secret where his bias lies. Microsoft is no threat to Steam whatsoever. Epic Games Store is, and Sony now own a small stake in Epic. It’s pretty easy to see what’s going on here IMO.
@clvr "What's the number that comes after 2? Numbers are hard." -Gabe Newell
Probably explains why he likes the Series X over the PS5. No numbers in Series X, but there is a number other than 1 or 2 in PS5.
@wiiware You took a promotional render vs the lowest resolution screenshot you could.
@MS7000 ahahahahaha that's a good one 😄
@PcTV The first time I see the halo trailer my first reaction is why the joel looks alike marine face is no better than joel on ps4. I think halo infinite has worse graphics than halo 4, there's no excuse "because it's open world game", because ghost of tsushima on ps4 exist.
So I think it's either because the game is in development hell, the engine is just not a good engine, or xbox x is a hard machine to develops, like ps3 vs xbox 360 but in reverse.
@vivanred Stating a console is better is not the same as saying you won't support the other one.
@Trajan Yes the Unreal demo was at 30FPs, your point? It’s just like the Forza trailer which was 30FPS (but showed no gameplay or anything running on Xbox hardware) or Hellblade II trailer which was a cinematic at 24FPS (but showed no gameplay or anything running on Xbox hardware). Halo: Infinite running on PC and not even native 4k with VRS and showing 720p textures? With visual as sub-par as that? Massively downgraded from what was shown at E3 2018. It’s easy to claim more power, harder to actually show it for Microsoft it seems.
It’s even more concerning that Microsoft can’t even show anything running on an actual Series X when it’s a couple months from release. No third party game has been announced that runs any differently on the PS5 than the Series X. The 12TF power narrative is meaningless when third party games are targeting identical benchmarks.
Also, PC outpacing consoles? I’ll bite, what specifically are we talking about when we say “outpacing”? In terms of what, revenue? Player count? That’s pretty vague. Epic Games Store IS gaining ground on Steam, they are much more developer friendly and give a bigger share of revenue to developers.
You are claiming poor thermals on the consoles before they are even out and have been properly tested? You are arguing on bad faith about things you don’t know for certain. I would like to see some proof on bad thermals for next-gen consoles if you are going to make a claim like that. I would be willing to guarantee your sources are all hearsay and rumors.
He means that Series X is technically better and it is.
@AlexSora89 Yeah i cant think of anything besides that. Oh the portal mini games and thats it i guess.
@Trajan Epic has a lot more money too throw around tencent or better said the Chinese own a lot now.
Wouldn't be a day that ends in 'y' without a pot stirring article from Push Square.
Has Phil started paying hobos in the streets for promoting?
I care about his opinion as much as I care about what the McDonald's CEO has to say about climate change.
He seemed a bit thrown by the follow-up question of "why?"
Could've at the VERY least said 'because Gamepass' or something, but saying, "Because it is." has got to be the most lazy response ever.
@BlueOcean he is also said Rare' s last great game was perfect dark on the N64 over 20 years ago. And every game rare has put out since has been absolute "garbage". Do you agree with him there?
PS5 is better. Why? Because it is!
Shocking how upset people are about his choice. He’s allowed to prefer Xbox and for him it might be better. I personally can’t see any reason why Anyone would prefer Xbox over ps5 other than saving money with game pass, and I doubt he needs to save money. But he just might really really like Halo and Forza. Simple as that.
I don't care which system is more powerful. I'll buy the console that has the most games I'm interested in and right now that's Playstation (Bloodborne, God of War, Spider-Man, Ratchet & Clank etc.)
More Smoke and Mirrors from a Xbox Fan Just bring back Milo I say and next-gen will be Microsoft's Hmm I wonder what happened to Milo???
Wonder if Sony's stake in Epic swayed his choice at all.
The fanboyism is strong In comments. Why are people so upset. People are allowed to prefer one over the other.
Trying to discredit anyone that picks Xbox is childish.
It’s a block of plastic that plays games stop acting like you have shares in Sony.
He’s an idiot, he is also a PC elitist through and through so his reply is hardly surprising, more fool him.
@DeepSpace5D Totally agree, it’s like with the Xbox One X being more powerful then the PS4 Pro I have, but you look at God Of War on the PS4 Pro on a 4K OLED TV and it creams all over anything on the Xbox One X graphics wise.
All that power is utterly meaningless when they are incapable of using it properly, like in Halos case.
Not really worth a discussion we are allowed to like a specific console it’s not like he done the fanboy thing of calling one crap over the other or saying there exclusive games are bad he just said it’s better and in terms of power and performance it is but the difference in reality for consumers we probably won’t notice any in third party games and if there is any the difference will be far less than the difference between PS4 pro and the one x.
@jorel262 They wouldn't be gettin that internet traffic otherwise. At this point it has gotten beyond stupid that people that all play the same Damn games minus maybe a dozen or so limited ones can find so much to argue about and waste energy on.
Sony probably won't lose any sleep over these comments or this guy anyhow so hey ho!
I can't take this guys word for it or take him seriously. Valve has stilll yet to make a proper Half Life 2 sequel when that's all fans want. Also totally screwed the pooch on the "Steam Box" so yea out of touch imo
@jamberino93 yea he's gross
As others have noted,M$ have their first party live-service games back on Steam,Sony invests a minor share in Epic. Maybe they ought to have asked what's the last console game he's actually played? Doubt he even owns a ps4,much less valve buying any ps5 devkits!
“I don’t have a stake in that race."
Press [X] to doubt.
Even if the system is more powerful on paper if next gen plays out like the last Sony is going to have the better first party line up by a long margin. I'm not even a fan boy, I'll probably end up with both just as I have both current gen systems. But there's a reason why my xbox controller (which I've never liked tbh) is covered in dust. The only upsides it has is BC and Game pass. Even with that it's still sitting there unused. On ps4 I went from playing TLOU2 straight to Ghosts of Tsushima. I can't even remember the last exclusive game on Xbox I played.
I really don't see how you can give any major edge to Microsoft. If it's your personal main platform that's fair enough but I don't see why if you're looking at it with no bias you would put your faith in a company that can't even make a decent UI for their last system or come up with a name that doesn't confuse most people. The hardware might be great, the support behind it is where it will fall flat if they didn't learn a lot from this gen. They've not shown any evidence that they have Imo. They're leading with Halo Infinite as their killer app atm ffs.
@DavLFC No because judging games is as reviewing them, just opinions.
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