Oh Boy, There'll Be a Backlash to This Marvel's Avengers Trailer

So glad I’ll have the opportunity to spend my money 30 days earlier. What a huge privilege.

I can smell the amount of PS brand elitists about to flood the YT comments section

This is literally just a troll trailer

@sadjanken I mean even as a PS4 owner and eventual PS5 owner I sympathize with the crowd who thought they'd at least get something like exclusive in game events or content to compensate for losing out on literally everything Sony is getting even outside Spider-Man. Practices like these I frankly find pretty dumb for multiplatform games. Developers in that area should be responsible for retaining parity between all platforms no matter what. If Sony is already paying for THIS much exclusivity, why not just make the game exclusive if the other platforms aren't getting *****?

Playing the beta now. Much more fun than I anticipated considering the amount of moaning making the rounds. I'm happy to give it the time of day now; may even consider a purchase at some point.

I can't imagine Spider-Man will be particularly fun to play without an open sandbox world.

@Pleasance if you're on the fence about linear Spidey you should play Shattered Dimensions and Edge of Time. Those were made in the Activision Spider-Man era but they are great action games and their stories were written by high profile comic writers who wrote for the mainstream Spidey comics

All the people complaining about Sony making items console exclusive are conveniently ignoring the fact that Microsoft took a multitude of multiplatform game developers and made them Xbox exclusive.

I loved the Spiderman game, But would I play Spiderman over Ironman, Thor, or Hulk? Nope!

And here I am still on the fence with game.

I haven't seen a lot of pushback from this on PureXbox. I think the general census is this is only a concern for games that look good, and the overall opinion is this game isn't one of those.

Just a personal observation though.

I played the beta for a couple of hours, deleted it, and cancelled my pre-order. I wanted to have faith, but the controls are so sluggish and the combat is so repetitive. Kamala was the best, though, and made me wish for a full single player Ms. Marvel game, in the vein of Spider-Man.

@TheFrenchiestFry Thanks for the tip. I remember being really interested in Shattered Dimensions, but for some reason never checked it out.

Yeah I don’t care. The game is fun, so I will it.
It’s as easy as that.
Currently playing the beta.

Does not make it more appealing for me. I am not getting a ps5 for a couple years, and rather play the Xbox series x version over the PS4 version.

I doubt I’ll play any of the grinding content, if there is a full story (that determines if I buy it at all) I’ll just play through it and move on to other games. I never bothered with time limited events in Assassins Creed Origin or Odyssey either.

@nessisonett 😆😆😆it comes with a complimentary slap, as well.

@RedShirtRod I think everyone agrees that this looks like it's going to be a significant step back in terms of quality or content compared to Spider-Man, regardless of what platform it's on

Which sucks too because this is like the first time in years many of these characters got the video game treatment outside Marvel vs. Capcom

@Pleasance Shattered Dimensions' biggest strength is probably the presentation as each of the Spider-Men and their respective environments have a distinct art style that really reflects the aesthetics of their individual comic books

Edge of Time has a really awesome story and the time mechanic where doing one thing in one Spider-Man's timeline directly affects an event in another Spider-Man's timeline is really well executed

I'd say the one negative though is that like most of the Spidey games during that era they relied super heavily on using the symbiotes in their stories

Timed exclusive content aside, I still don’t have much of an idea what this game is supposed to be in terms of genre/gameplay.
Is it just me or have Sony just not advertised this game?

Also betas should be free. Completely free. This pre-order=beta access trend is *****

@Arnna Don't blame Sony. Blame Square for not pushing this game hard enough. It is a multiplatform game after all. Sony was just advertising the benefits of their version

I like that sony didn't give a single fu*k lol 😂

@TheFrenchiestFry yeah way fair enough but it’s weird all round. Avengers is a multi billion dollar film franchise and this game has received no press or any meaningful info. Even the fan hype is really muted.

@lacerz how dare you Broomfield up facts and use logic at a time like this.

So many articles on Sony smacking money around and people complaining. Let’s not forget Microsoft started the exclusivity war. they started it at the very first showcase where the console was shown that they would have a bunch of exclusive timed and permanent.

Why is everyone looking at Sony smacking doing the same? Xbox won for being more powerful, Sony focusses on speed. Sony is just using one of the Microsoft tactics and trying to get the 2-1 win here. And who can blame them?

Let’s also not forget that the last Xbox showcase had about 80% launch exclusives too lol

@Ricowtje
Sony were actually paying for exclusivity on games on the original PlayStation before Xbox even existed. A well known example is the original Tomb Raider franchise. They prevented the Sega Saturn or the Nintendo 64 from having any Tomb Raider game released for those platforms until 2000.

I don't get this drama around Spider-Man it's a Sony licence why shouldn't they have him as exclusive I wouldn't begrudge MS having some alternative universe story and getting Master Chief in there as exclusive this stuff has been done since the 360/PS3 days it's nothing new with timed exclusives/dlc perks

Yes, I feel bad for all 6 Xboners.

What a load of fuss, all the games companies do it, in different ways.
Instead those xboxer’s should be more worried they will be playing tarted up Xbox one game’s from Microsoft’s in house studios for the next 2 years on a next gen series x.

And Assemble on the Xbox for...er erm... How come this was all ok when Microsoft did it when they tried to kill off the PS3 in the PS3/360 days??? I don't get it. Oh well, keep Assembling the Exclusives SONY

Whats the big issue here i still have flashbacks from the 360 days with COD.

Just joking people

Are people really angry over an exclusive character when Microsoft paid SE for exclusivity to Rise Of The Tomb Raider not so long ago?

@UserTaken It sucks when MS did it, and it still sucks now Sony does it.

@UserTaken I don't like the practice, as a Tombraider fan from day one that year long exclusive was an insult. However a year later we got the 20th anniversary edition with all the DLC. In this case Xbox owners are just getting an inferior product for the same price not a timed exclusive delay.

@Crowley22g I agree it's not a practise that should be going on, however looking at the Marvel/Sony contract it states that Sony have first and last refusals to exclusive electronic merchandising and items (which would cover this?). A far less shady practise considering they will have simply been offered it. Correct me if I'm wrong though!

@LieutenantFatman Tomb Raider was released on Sega Saturn before any other console

@Unffclcntrllerpd
That's true. Sony's deal took place after the first game was released.

Have too love the double standards of push square! How many articles have we seen tell us how exclusives contents are evil, but when it's a sony exclusive it's ok!I

Enjoyed beta , but it lacks polish but it is beta, but will wait till after launch to buy, seems to be getting a lot of hate and not because of Spider-Man . I can see price dropping quick even if it is avengers.

@UserTaken
Yep they are, it's the double standard of gamers

@wiiware
I dont suppose xbox do either when thay have done it in the past . Lol

Son(y), I'm disappoint.

STOP.
Theres nothing wrong with this trailer.
I'm surprised Sony doesnt advertise more Spider-Man exclusivity.

I said it already, when COD deals are revealed (for Ms or Sony I dont care which) people will riot in the streets right? Virtue signalling has reached a new level lately. Most criticism I see are from people who arent even interested in the game.

There are so many things wrong with this game, from other versions at the same price but for less content, to the opportunity to buy costumes (that frankly should be in the game) 30 days early, the awful loot system and grindy boring side quests. Its almost as if they've wanted to put every bad idea from this generation into one game.

Teasing owners of other platforms with this trailer is pretty funny though

@Bentleyma- nope, just a preorder. I put one in with Amazon, got my code, then cancelled the preorder. I've done it with Anthem and a few other games. Get involved, son!

"Micosoft mde tumb raidr exlusive, so y Sny getin calld out fo it?"

Probably because this practice sucks regardless of who does it?

Exclusive games? Sure, only a good thing as far as I am concerned.

Timed exclusives and ongoing perks for one particular platform? S****y. It accomplishes nothing because all you are doing is either making someone wait for no reason, or you are purposely making all versions bar one inferior. If you are planning on being multiplatform, you should be aiming for parity as much as possible. No one benefits from timed-exclusives or exclusive perks.

I don't like this because it essentially lowers the value of the other two versions. Sony should just essentially purchase the game as an exclusive and be done with it. This tit-for-tat character nonsense is no good. Sony wins this time but imagine if Harley Quinn is locked to Xbox in the upcoming Suicide Squad. The end road for us gamers is just a load of misery in the future...

@Mitsui ''Sony fans complaining Sony is spending more bucks so you get more... lol''

I'm sorry, we don't get ''more''. Microsoft just gets less. Sony is spending a lot of money, but it doesn't really benefit a PlayStation user. The game would've come out anyway, it just means that other people have to wait longer, or get less content. I personally wish they'd put this money into a new studio or two and have them develop games for the PS5. Now that benefits us. Not this.

@Bentleyma- nope. Pre order on amazon, get code then cancel pre order without ever spending a penny.

I... didn't get WHAT a have to "assemble on my playstation"? does game comes on broken disc so I have to assemble pieces together? or there is some toy that requires assembly?

@pip_muzz
This is standard practice though. It's not new. I'm not fond of timed rubbish but people going out of their way to suddenly now be outraged is ridiculous. It's only video games and brands finding ways to advertise.
I can see now a general push for 'Sony is anti consumers' with BC, controllers, timed crap etc.
It's not innocent.

@TheFrenchiestFry remember the rise of tomb raider? Xbox exclusive for a year? This doesn't come close to that

People quick to forget when xbox got tomb raider exclusive for a year, that was the starting point of this time exclusive war, xbox have themselves to blame

@pip_muzz
As for Spider-Man I think it s not really shocking. The character is associated with Sony now. In the same way I would not be surprised to see MasterChief character exclusive to the xbox brand in any game.

@JJ2 I totally get it's not new. I'm in agreement with you there for sure.
Regarding Anti consumer, it would be overly harsh to say Sony is anti consumer... That said things like BC, Controllers etc... Mean that Microsoft are certainty more pro consumer than Sony.
Its not that Sony are doing anything wrong, but more that Microsoft are doing more in the consumer area.
Spider-Man being Sony exclusive would make sense if I didn't play as him, Miles Morales and Spider Gwen in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 last year. So the double standard there is cause for the raised eyebrows here.

"Okay, so it is bullsh*t, but it definitely does make the PlayStation release more appealing, doesn’t it?"

It's mad how fast morals can get dropped.

Exclusivity is one of the things that drives competition. Do people not realize that? It seems there are some who just want everything to be identical between consoles. That's stupid and unrealistic.

Each one of these deals is pushing the inevitable price of the PS5 up. Assume Microsoft just waiting for them to announce the price and then undercut it as they don't sell games anymore, just subscriptions.

@lacerz There is a massive difference in owning game studio's and having specific content locked for certain consoles in the same game. It's chalk and cheese and is a bad practise that needs to stop before it takes over! Anyway, Sony have paid for their own exclusive games which is no different to what Microsoft do (albeit MS are a bit more extreme).

@avenovah This is the equivalent of "Just get off my Facebook feed so I can continue to spread my anti-vax BS unchallenged"

Also, Sony own the movie rights to Spider-man, not the game rights. That's why last year's Switch exclusive, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, has Spider-man in it.

@avenovah That's not a reliable source, though. That person keeps arguing with others and her(?) arguments are very flawed; she provides zero evidence to back them up.

@Mitsui Square Enix doesn't need Sony's money to develop a game. If they were allowed to put Spider-Man in all versions, I bet they would've done that. Because Spider-Man sells, SE knows that, Sony knows that, everyone knows that.

After all, he was in Marvel Alliance 3 last year. But anyway, this applies to all timed exclusive content. You really don't gain anything as a gamer, except the illusion that you get to player it sooner, when in reality the rest just gets to play it later.

This timed content stuff has been going on since the original PlayStation in 1996 in one form or another. It's absolutely nothing new, the difference being in the pre-DLC era it happened with full games. Tomb Raider exclusivity on PS1 comes to mind. This was a third party game exclusive to Sony's console through some backroom money dealing. The whole game mind you, not one little character or feature.

Does the fact it's always been happening mean it's okay? I don't know honestly.

The more present question to me is why anyone all the sudden cares about an old as dirt and widely used practice. It's because for some reason it's landed in the news cycle and paraded around as this new issue. And people latch onto the news. Because people are people.

@pip_muzz
Look I get there s a bit of frustration but I see a lot of people comparing with Ms possibly buying WB and Batman games becoming xbox exclusive. Its completely ridiculous.
Point is this is only a character in some average game with little hype vs a studio acquisition that would impact very high quality future gameS fully excluding playstation.
You see what I mean? It's the disproportionate outrage for it. As if those two things are similar.
It's obviously stirred from a next gen brand partisan perspective. We all know it.
Note
I respectfully disagree with Ms being more consumer friendly as that s also one of those buzzwords thrown around lately totally related with keyboard warring for those brands but I wont get further into it haha

@JJ2

I think "disproportionate outrage" is a good way to put it. It's always been happening. It always will happen.

How this landed in the news recently is beyond me, but it isn't beyond me why people get so invested in the discussion on a decades-old issue all the sudden. People follow the news. Get their ideas and opinions from it to a disturbing degree.

To clarify, I'm not saying it isn't an issue... but why call it out now all the sudden? You are 25 years too late to the party.

@Latex

I think the more pragmatic among us understand it as a business decision and a very old and widely used practice.

Whether Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, EA, or (aging myself here) Sega, it has always been done.

You are right though, someone who likes Microsoft would frame this as a Sony issue in the moment. And vice versa. That's because they lack the frame of reference to understand how mired the industry is in this through time immemorial.

I like to think of the modern "fanboy" as being just an overenthusiastic younger-type person that doesn't know any better. You gotta admire their passion, but critical thinking and analysis isn't their strong suit.

We need fanboys/girls because they drive the industry despite being fairly dumb and hard-headed about things. And someday they will replace us and be the ones ranting about the younger generation's 'indiscretions of youth'. Its all a cycle.

@JJ2 Very fair point. In the grand scheme of things this character in a mediocre game really isn't a big deal
Were Microsoft to purchase WB then of course that would be a much bigger scenario.
Again yes, I tend to feel Microsoft are a tad more friendly but that's mainly because I do love the backwards compatibility. Microsoft certainly aren't saints in fairness either and also have their negatives (recent large number of timed series X exclusives being a good example)
Nice to have a sensible discussion in the comments. Thanks.

@Mitsui What outrage are you talking about? lol I've been quite calm about this matter. I'm not angry or anything like that.

And yeah, I do understand the business side behind it, but there's never a single way to achieve certain goals. A few examples; You can maximise profits through various means. A publisher like EA is going all in with micro-transactions, squeezing every last penny out of you. CDPR on the other hand is ''playing the nice guy'', by offering stuff for free, supporting their games, no MTX, etc. And this garners a lot of goodwill and profit as a result. Both are equally valid business strategies, but in one case gamers get screwed, and in the other example it's a win for us as well.

The problem is that when Sony starts doing more of this, and they will according to rumours. Microsoft will probably respond and be just as aggressive. Remember the Rise of the Tomb Raider situation nobody liked? Well, what if stuff like that happens again? I don't think anybody ''wins'' in that case, only the corporate CEOs. I personally rather see them garnering a big userbase by goodwill. Provide the better platform and people will come on their own, you don't need to moneyhat developers to keep the games off other platforms.

I dont know why everyone is crying. Sony is doing exactly what Sony is suppose to do. Making PlayStation the best place to play. Buy the PS5 and enjoy or buy an Xbox and shut the hell up with your whinging.

@JohnKarnes lol said no one ever.

Shame there's so much negativity around this game (justified or not however you look at it). Was playing all day yesterday and we had a great time!

Phil spenser needs to embrace the darkside if the xbox is ever going to be competitive. Why are xbox fans mad at sony and not microsoft? Ms is letting you down, not Sony.

There's not much that needs to be said, outside of the obvious fact that the trailer is almost at Apple levels of brand narcissism.

That said, I might further point out the obvious by stating that if I buy a PS5 it's for Ratchet And Clank: Rift Apart, for The Pathless (which I utterly adore because of its Breath of The Wild-esque game design, contrary to the unoriginal ripoff that is Genshin Impact) and for, I dunno, The Pedestrian maybe? Not for content on a multiplatform title that makes other versions worse (and yet sharing the same price).

Again love the fanboy comments here.

“Sony don’t give a F”

Couldn’t agree more.... this game looks a terrible excuse for a money grab and a total waste of a brilliant license. This is will not be a GOTY contender.

People will buy and have buyer remorse. This is one exclusive they shouldn’t have wasted money on.

Gutted because I’d love a great Avengers game.

This isn’t it

@playstation_king At least when it did come to PS4 they actually had the decency to give them the 20 year Celebration edition with all the extra content and post-launch stuff.

Spider-Man and all these events that Sony has to themselves aren't even timed, and I doubt they're going to make a "Complete Edition" of the game for all platforms that includes Spider-Man on other systems either.

The timed exclusivity was bad, but at least it was timed.

@TheFrenchiestFry I mean Sony owns Spider-Man so it makes all the sense in the world. It just happens to be such a great character that the xbox community feels left out but truly it makes since that it's an exclusive.

@sadjanken Sony doesn't own the character. Only specific rights. He's still Marvel's character which is why they have to credit them first at the end of each trailer

Disney still owns the character's comics, TV rights and general merchandising like toys and other products. Technically they're also sharing the film rights with Sony as a result of the deal that allows him to be featured in the MCU movies.

@TheFrenchiestFry that's understandable but if Sony paid square Enix to include spider man then I see no problem. If sony own the rights to use spiderman in gaming then why not use it

@playstation_king Honestly it would make more sense at that point to make the game a PS exclusive because Spider-Man isn't the only perk PS owners have over the other platforms. Plus Marvel's Spider-Man clearly wanted to set up a shared universe of Marvel's characters in gaming considering all the easter eggs referencing the Avengers and even Daredevil. Then the game could easily connect to that game, and it would just incentivize people following Marvel's content already to go to PlayStation as a de facto platform for gaming content without any of this "let's just pay ludicrous amounts of money so a multiplatform game doesn't retain parity with other systems and it'll favor our console instead" bs

Dont people have to actually care about something for there to be a backlash? 🤣🤣🤣

@TheFrenchiestFry it's just the developer and Sony being greedy but also a business strategy to gain more money and players.
I can't fault them, they saw a way to make more money and give people who own both consoles a reason to make sure they get the ps4 version. This timed exclusivity in content and whole games is indeed a load of BS but I'm afraid it's here to stay and will play a huge role on next gen and who comes out on top and given that the ps4 sold more than double the xbox one. Sony have a lot more money to play with in terms of buying exclusive content and time games

@playstation_king honestly based on what Sony's been saying about making their platform "the place to play", if continuing practices like this is their strategy I don't know how much I'll continue to support their brand going forward

It's really reminding me of Mattrick-era Xbox

@TheFrenchiestFry where would you go to then as Microsoft are doing the same in terms of time exclusive games.
Only Nintendo atm have never done this and can't see them ever doing it

@avenovah Using a twitter post as evidence for who owns what rights? That's not exactly compelling evidence.

https://www.inverse.com/gaming/marvels-avengers-spider-man-crossover-in-2021-insomniac

Seriously, Google who owns what, and the most you'll find is that Sony owns the movie rights, and they sold the merchandise rights to Disney.

This article actually had to post a correction to show that Sony only owns the movie rights because for some reason people seem to be under this misunderstanding of what Sony owns regarding spiderman.

And no, I'm not a troll. I'm just a fan of calling out BS, which seems to upset people.

@playstation_king Well tbf I was much younger during this era so I didn't really pay attention to all the timed exclusives Xbox was getting

In retrospect Microsoft's practices for multiplats were just as dumb and contrived and also go against the entire point of a game being multiplatform

@naruball @Richnj This is an excerpt of what Marvel Games Head Jay Ong said in an interview about Spiderman from E3 2016.

"We’ve had a long history of success with Activision, and we still have a great relationship with them. But the future of the Spider-Man console games is with Sony and Insomniac. We’re delighted about this partnership, and that’s something that’s going to continue forward. With [regard to] other console partners, stay tuned. There’s many more interesting additional things to come. But Activision is in the past, with regards to Spider-Man.”

It seems that Sony had struck a partnership deal with Marvel in regards to the console version of Spiderman games. It is worth noting that he mentioned Activision who had a contract with Marvel for the exclusivity rights to Spiderman games.

Link: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2016-06-15-spider-man-leads-marvels-epic-new-console-strategy

With the exception of Spidey*, none of these exclusives are really all that amazing. Add to this that they are only temporarily exclusive and I'm not getting what's so bad here. They seem akin to the PS+ perks they give out for F2P games. Nothing to write home about but, you know, they're there.

*Also if the game isn't that great, his inclusion, exclusive or otherwise, isn't really going to amount to much.

@BrainHacker Althought true, the partnership with Sony, from all I seen, is specifically for spider-man centric games. The character itself is usable on other games, like Capcom's Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite or Nintendo's Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3.

The same was true when it was Activision that had the rights, since we saw Spider-Man show up in non-Activision games during that time too.

no sympathy from me I went through this crap whole gen & it was a lot worse than a bloody costume!! it was whole games so anyone going poor Xbox users can jog on.

I don't like exclusive content or timed content at all.

But Microsoft started this trend, they can't really complain.

@BrainHacker Again, Spider-man games, and all appearances of Spider-man in games are two different things, and Spider-man has appeared in games (2019) on other systems since that article (2016) was written.

And if anything it just proves what I'm saying, if Sony had full ownership of Spider-man game rights, it wouldn't have to make a deal with Marvel after years of Activision making the games, who they themselves didn't have rights, but a deal with Marvel. Sony does not have the rights to the Spider-man in games.

It's a completely different deal to the movie rights. This is where Sony outright owns the rights to make, profit from, and control those projects, indefinitely. It's not a deal that will expire after so many years, or when Marvel wants them back.

@Tharsman @Richnj The partnership deal between Sony and Marvel could have given Sony partial exclusivity rights to Spiderman.

This is another excerpt from Jay Ong Marvel Games Head interview from E3 2016

"When asked if this meant Marvel's previous console licensing partners--Sega, Capcom, Activision--are out of the picture, Ong focused on the last of that group, the publisher behind Spider-Man console games since 2000 and the original PlayStation Spider-Man game."

The reason why Spiderman still appear on Capcom games is because they still have console-licensing deals with Marvel even before Sony came to the picture while Nintendo might have settle a licensing deal as well with Disney for Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

The game is gonna blow anyway

Controversial option: the game looks mediocre and bland regardless of what platform it is on. Personally I don't think square enix was the brand to handle this game and what did people expect when the establishef spiderman copyright withstands? The majority of people own a ps4 anyway for this to be inconsequential, assuming is actually sells well. Personally it probably would have been less controversial if this project was approached as an exclusive tieing in with not only the MCU, but the hit PS4 title: spiderman.

I only think it was a waste of money cause of how bland and generic the game looks, maybe Sony though it would receive the same attention and accolades as the films which it definitely won't...not even remotely close.

Don't worry Xbox gamers you don't need to be upset the game is pretty *****, it's basically anthem and destiny with a marvel skin

I guess that's why no Xbox report sites are complaining as they only complain about exclusives when the game is actually good

@BrainHacker “ while Nintendo might have settle a licensing deal as well with Disney for Marvel Ultimate Alliance.”

That is the point: if Disney can still license the characters to others then obviously Sony has no exclusive use for the character. This is not a weird or unheard of thing.

Long story short: if Disney/Sony Spider-Man deal was actually full exclusive, then Nintendo could not do the game with Spider Man without Sony’s name showing somewhere in the credits, because it would be Sony that would have to give them permission.

@Tharsman I never said that Sony owns full exclusivity rights to Spiderman because that would entail that Disney sold the gaming rights of Spiderman to Sony.

You have to consider that console licensing deals is different between IPs and not the whole Marvel Universe because Disney owns it but since Sony and Marvel currently have a partnership deal for a specific character, we can assume that Sony will have partial exclusivity rights to Spiderman and the proof of that is the exclusive Spiderman PS4 game that was released on 2018.

Can buy won't buy

If memory serves Sony owns much of Spiderman, so it should come as no surprise to anyone that Marvel wants to maintain their good working relationship. I'm also not seeing the big deal. Stuff like this happens soooo much in the industry, period. But people are crickets then. Why is this one time so special? Idk its just weird that gamers aren't consistent with their outrage, even when its stupid.

@TheFrenchiestFry Xbox kinda invented timed exclusivity actually. They're still doing it now. Was essentially all they did this gen too, honestly. Frankly now a days its getting to be common practice.

@Octane Microsoft basically invented timed exclusivity, its one of the reasons why I left them behind. I got tired of them using it to hide the fact that they had nothing to play, was never a fan anyway so it was an easy decision.

It's also already confirmed that timed deals are still continuing with the next xbox. Honestly though, everyone does it. So gamers trying to have some outrage cry over this are misguided at best. Its nonsense if you ask me. Wont harm these entities anyway. If outrage really hurt them places like EA would've shuttered long ago.

@Adagiumx The last major example of timed exclusivity I can think of in regards to Microsoft was Rise of the Tomb Raider

Phil Spencer for the most part seems to using the polar opposite strategy than Don Mattrick. I remember stuff like COD and the fact that X360 got like 7 additional Marvel Ultimate Alliance characters as DLC but it's just as bs now as it was back then imo

I get that Sony has some sort of control over Spider-Man's game rights as a result of acquiring Insomniac but if that was the case it would've made a lot more sense if they used Insomniac Spidey in an attempt to quasi-connect the two games together after all the Avengers easter eggs in that game. It being an original Spider-Man made specifically for that universe just muddles things

Corruption at its finest. 🤮

Stop whining

I'm waiting to see if others find Ms. Marvel this annoying: https://youtu.be/cvuSlRjVUtM

Oh, it's total bullsh*t alright, and thats coming from a primarily PS4 guy. I do own all 3 consoles, but this is the mi d of exclusive content in games that benefits gamers in no way. 🤦‍♂️

@lacerz Its not the exclusivity deal thats pissing off pc and xbox players. They happen all the time. Its the sheer amount of content that is being cut out.
If the game had dozens of characters to pick from, it wouldnt be such a big deal.
But there isn't. Its like having an exclusive lancer in Anthem, or a Guardian in Destiny. You only have a few to begin with, so adding an extra character with all new moves and abilities, plus story content, is a huge deal.

@lacerz and Sony did the same? Like 70% of the exclusives they showed during the summer reveal was console exclusive for a limited time

@playstation_king remember when that game wasn't gonna happen until Microsoft funded the project and made it possible, oh but you PlayStation fanboys don't talk about facts

@Envy
No dispute there, but Sony isn't running around saying that timed exclusives are bad. The head of Xbox is.

@Envy shoe me an article that says that game wasn't going to happen...
The developer had plenty money from selling the first tomb raider of the trilogy. Microsoft saying they help funded it was just a better way of saying "we can help you out a little but it's got to be a xbox exclusive for a year" that's basically buying timed exclusiveness.

I'm pretty sure sony has help fund the spiderman inclusion in avengers

@TheFrenchiestFry https://www.gamespot.com/articles/15-timed-xbox-console-exclusives-announced/1100-6480080/ their last showcase had several timed exclusives. Like I said they're one of the originators, but I dont see anything wrong with it really, unless you just use it as a crutch like they often seem to do. All in all its just a thing now. As for Spiderman, I believe the devs actually didnt want to use Insominiacs because they're making their own story and version of avengers. It was an option. There was some sort of interview. Makes sense to want to distance yourself from the work of others. Gotta spread your wings somehow. I for one am quite glad that they're forgoing the movies, more than anything though.

Seems verizon customers get exclusive costumes. Guess everyone has their toes in the pool somewhere.