Update: It's also worth noting that the DualSense has a 4.2V cell compared to the DualShock 4's 3.7V cell, so another upgrade to suggest battery life may be longer.
Original Story: More leaked photographs of the DualSense controller have been shared on social media, this time confirming that the PlayStation 5 controller has much bigger battery capacity than its predecessor. While the DualShock 4 offers about 1,000 mAh, its successor sits at 1,560 mAh – a noteworthy increase. This could, of course, lead to longer battery life.
https://twitter.com/Galaxyrain666/status/1293459335658364933
However, it’s worth remembering that there’s much more going on with the DualSense controller, in terms of the adaptive triggers and haptic feedback. As such, it’s possible it may require more juice to run, and thus you may not get much more uninterrupted playtime out of it. We’ll need to wait until we have our own to confirm, but for now things are looking promising.
[source twitter.com, via resetera.com]
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I for one am looking forward to an upgrade to the 3 hour-long battery life of my ps4 controller.
Rumours peg it at approx 3-4 hours more battery life than dualshock 4. I know zero about consumer electronics, but is there a reason they dont put a bigger battery in there. Is it cost or is it safety? Most phones have larger batteries these days, so it comes as a bit of a surprise.
It seems chunkier than dualshock 4, which will certainly take some getting used to. For me, the size, shape and weight of the dualshock 4 was pretty much perfect
Can't Wait!! Thinking of something more to say
Yes it's definitely going to be needed with the DualSense. People who really really want long battery life need to disable the feedback obviously.
I remember when Digital Foundry replaced the internal dualshock 4 battery with another that is more than double the capacity (2000mAh) iirc. The result was that it lasted exactly the same as the original battery. My point is, the number of the battery capacity does not tell the whole story, it's the entire design.
Source: https://youtu.be/iOoRvBtpoco
They need more battery power to obtain height when they breach.
They really need to reveal the new PS5 event already, the leaks is really getting out of hand.
@Medic_Alert
The guy in from that twitter account says that DS4 batteries were improved in the later models.
My ps4 pro battery last me 14 hours, I tested it on ff7 remake. There's 3 version of DS4, v1 is from the launch original ps4 that only last 6-8 hours, then v2 that last about 11 hours (my DS4 ps1 anniversary edition), and the last one v3 is from launch ps4 pro, that can last 14 hours.
Also, man the controller is slick
To be fair, a piece of wood has a higher charge than the DS4.
@Medic_Alert I think people exaggerate. I also get about 8 hours from a charge on mine, too.
Considering how shockingly bad the battery life of the Dual Shock 4 is, it won’t take much to improve in it so if Sony don’t; then that’s bad on them and a bit of a fail if I do say so. Let’s hope it gives an better battery life.
@Medic_Alert Same situation here, I have 2 DS4 and swap between while charging the other, never had a case of the battery letting me down during a gaming session. If they have a DS4 with a 3-4 hours battery life, they should return it, it's clearly faulty.
Now something to think on is that I never use the rumble on my DS4, since I hate the feeling. Maybe the vibrations is what is draining the battery that quickly?
@ShaiHulud If your Dualshock 4 only lasts 3 hours then yours is busted.. Mine easily lasts a 6-8 hour session with more left.
Mines 800mA
@PretendWorking
I get 2-3 hours on one(that came with the system) and around 10 on another, what is there to gain from lying? Just accept some people have had those short term battery controllers.
Well that’s good to hear. It’s an improvement.
The PS4 controller battery life was so bad basically just had it plugged in all the time should have just got a wired controller. Extra battery capacity will be good but the contoller is doing more than before so might not even add much more battery life.
@Medic_Alert i think people like to exaggerate tbh. Also, i wonder how many took advantage of the system level patch that allowed you to dim the light bar on the controller. That added a lot of length to mine.
The battery on my original controller was terrible, but I didn't notice it much because I never really game for super long sessions, and I have the charging dock so I'd always just pop it back on their when I'm done.
But if I ever left it off for whatever reason it'd only last 3 or 4 hours.
The update about the voltage increase is of course wrong in its premise. A higher voltage requirement does NOT translate to longer battery life in the way that a higher mAh capacity does.
Title:ds5 has 100,000 X the charge!!!
Article:but who knows, maybe not.
Lol. Uhh ok
It sure looks nice!! Cant wait to get it in my hands, looks so comfy!!
@PretendWorking batteries do start to weaken and hold less charge over time if someone is a long gaming session type of person
I can't see the DualSense lasting longer. I don't understand why my Sony phone lasts longer that the DS4? Surely using the same battery would make it cheaper for Sony?? 🤔
3.7V is a typical nominal voltage for a lithium ion cell and 4.2V is the fully charged.
I don't think that fact is worth noting, it is only a difference in labelling
@gameiznotover part of this will be about the voltage curve during discharge.
When discharging a cell the potential difference between the positive and negative terminals will start off high and drop as the cell loses its charge. This was noticeable with old walkmans as the tape motor would slow as the voltage lowered below its tolerance, and you would hear that the battery was running out. Nowadays everything is digital, so we have circuitry to regulate the inlet voltage of the digital components, but that circuitry will still only work above a certain voltage.
This means that you could have an original 3700 mWh cell drawing current at 3.7V (making 1000mAh) which is able to power given circuitry using 95% of its capacity, giving 950mAh of useful current-time, while a replacement cell rated at 7000mWh designed for a different purpose might be unable to provide a high enough potential difference after it is 47.5% discharged, giving the same 950mAh of useful current-time for the given purpose.
If we're talking about the new controller and its battery, this allows me to bring up something: fast charging.
My current controllers usually last anywhere from 5 to 7 hours, but the reason I even have controllerS (multiple) is because my living room cannot support charging as I play (I'd have to use a cable that's over 25ft long. Lol) and I grew tired of essentially: not being able to game when my controller's juice ran out.
And while fast charging wouldn't fix this problem, it'd be nice if I could charge a DualSense halfway in say, only 30mins (or something like that),
as opposed to waiting two hours for the DS4.
If in 30mins I could have another 4 hours to play... That'd be a game changer!
This is all until I got a 2nd DualSense of course. Lol
@theheadofabroom Holly *****!! Sounds like you know your electricity man. Count me impressed!
I really hope they announce their own elite controller this time instead of relying upon third parties and that it is ready for launch. You'd think it would be a no brainer given how popular that attachment they sold for the Dualshock 4 was for awhile.
@gameiznotover eh, it's just a lot of words to say "it's complicated". Obviously the numbers were pulled out of my arse to fit the specific case you were describing.
I guess what I really meant to say, and only alluded to, is that given these batteries are for these specific controllers I'd expect them to run a voltage curve as suitable as possible for the required use case, so a 50% increase in capacity should make a big difference as long as the components don't draw anywhere near 50% more current. That probably all depends on the haptics, so we won't really know until we have millions of the things out there being played with 🤷♂️
these losers with no life that play non stop will still complain
@gameiznotover You can't really be sure of this. Battery manufacturers are often dishonest with their battery capacity numbers. Neither of the batteries were tested beforehand, so we don't really know the true story.
But more actual capacity does indeed translate to more play time.
@Medic_Alert Mine last for +13h from fully charged to warning notification. I tested this past weekend.
People saying 3~4h probably have a 5~6 years old gamepad with wear out batteries, which should be replaced.
If a DSense give me 4~5h on top of that, I'm ok.
Sure, +20h battery will be excellente, but 16h~17h is still decent.
But how much time it actually is? My PS4 controller barely goes over 3 hours. I don't expect Nintendo levels of battery, but 5-6 hours would be decent enough.
@Medic_Alert
My experience with DualShock 4s was mixed. Early in their service lives I got about 5 hours out of them. Within six months there was noticeable battery degradation. My last DualShock 4, before I traded my 2014 Fat PS4 for a Switch, I was getting about 2.5-3.5 hours on a charge.
I loved the DualShock 4 from an ergonomic standpoint but I have nothing but bad things to say regarding its battery life.
The Switch Pro Controller has been amazing so far. It’s 8 months into its service life and I’m still averaging 30-40 hours of playtime out of it.
I am so ready for the PS5 and the DualSense, though. Already got a bunch of money put aside.
@Makina
I had four total over my PS4’s life span and none of them did over 5-6 hours, even fresh out of the box.
Thank you for posting less misleading article titles push Square. I complained when you was using what I thought was click bait so it's only fair to say fair play when it seems to have been addressed 👍
Sorry to sound like a fanboy (I don't think I am, I really want to buy the PS5!) but...
DualShock 4 v1 = 6 to 8 hours
DualShock 4 v2 = 9 to 11 hours
DualShock 4 v3 = 12 to 14 hours
DualShock 5 = estimated 50% more than DualShock 4 v3 so 17 to 21 hours maybe?
Wii U Pro = 70 to 80 hours
Switch = 30 to 40 hours
Why is there such a high gap? I don't mind charging the controller between each 2-3 sessions but when I compare this to my Wii U and Switch, I never think about charging them until I get the low battery alert and even when i get it, I know I don't have to worry for my current playing session.
Super awesome! The Dual Sense controller looks to be very well thought out, not ONLY with it's haptic feedback features but with it's built-in microphone, revised speaker, USB type C, bigger battery capacity & last but definitely not least triggers with the ability to tighten. The DS4 was almost perfect & the Dual Sense looks to be an innovative worthy successor in every sense of the word! Happy gaming 😉💨✌️
That is cool I haven't had a problem with the DS4 controllers because I got the controller Dock day 1 and have another controller ready when my main controller dies. That is the way to do I think anyway
I love the Dualshock 4. It was such a step up from the Dualshock 3 in every way. I even find it more comfortable than my Xbox pads. Unlike some, I've never had an issue with DS4 battery life at all. I'm really not convinced by the Dualsense so far. It looks especially cheap in those photos and I have no idea why they didn't add back buttons.
Also, the Switch Pro Controllers have an immense battery life. I really don't see why PlayStation and Xbox can't do equally as good with theirs.
@ShaiHulud sounds like it is time for you to buy a whole new controller so I have never gotten three hours out of one. I'm sure I at least get 6 to 9 hours out of mine.
Who'd have thunk it - the next generation controller has more power than the previous one! I'm so shaken right now!
Never thought the PS4 controller lacked a good bit of stamina anyway.
As per the new blogspot from PS the voltage is the same like DS4 3.65V hopefully it's a mistake.
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