Poll: Has Xbox's Bethesda Buyout Made You Reconsider a PS5 Purchase?

Makes no difference to me, it'll be years before the next Doom or Elder Scrolls and I've already got a ridiculously good list of PS5 games over the next 12 months or so anyway. Bethesda aren't exactly top of the list of developers I look forward to, Capcom would have been another story

For the record I'm getting the Series S but that was before this news anyway

Not one bit. If anything, it will help me save money. I have both Dishonored games, both The Evil Within games, three Wolfenstein games (and somehow have a Prey game as well)...and I've played none of them. I booted up Wolfenstein II, but never played it. The only Bethesda games I've played this gen are Fallout 4 (which is the only one I completed as a Minuteman) and Skyrim VR.

It's not just the titles above either. I own all the Metro games. Played zero.

The Sony quality completely outshines the ZeniMax titles.

For me it’s simple, whichever platform gives me more miyazaki, is the one I Get! I can play bloodborne and demon souls on PS5, can’t play them on Xbox, so easy choice

There should be an option if you own a PC. Game Pass being on PC is such a massive strike against getting an Xbox for me.

I was always going to buy both, but now I'm getting both at launch. Not just because of this, but also in combination with game pass.

I have a one X, so wouldn't even consider upgrading it at the moment. I don't think this will really take an effect for a few years yet. Plus, apart from a few. Most of the Bethesda titles are very sub par recently.

@nessisonett
Same here. There is no reason to get an Xbox if you have a PC and Game Pass since all of Microsoft's games come to the PC.

As long as microsoft put their games on pc (and sometimes switch), no. I already have good pc to play those games, besides I only like bethesda doom and elder scroll series (not interested in fallout).

If microsoft didn't put their games on pc and switch, I'm interested in xbox series s or at least old xbox s. Ori 1 & 2, cuphead, gears 1-3, gears 5, and halo mcc is pretty good.

Difficult choice. I’ll do what I did with Xbox last gen and get one for a discounted price mid generation to play a few games. But buying Bethesda isn’t that big of a deal IMO. Sony just needs to keep up with what they’re doing. Insomniac only cost $229M and Bethesda cost $7.5B. Spider-Man sold 13M copies and Doom eternal sold 3M, Rage 2 sold about 1M, Fallout 76 sold 2.6M, Wolfenstein 2 sold 2M. Bethesda’s last 4 games have flopped. They will eventually get it right but if Sony keeps it up with their buy low acquisitions then we will be ok.

Slightly biased site for the Poll answers lol.

I can’t say it has. If anything it’s made me dislike MS. I had the original Xbox and the 360 but they deleted my account because I didn’t get the Xbone and therefore didn’t log in. I’m now locked in to the Sony ecosystem with digital and ps plus digital games, plus I’m really enjoying the trophy system (my gamerscore was deleted at the same time as my Gamertag), plus I love the PSVR.

The only thing that might force my hand is if Sony continue with ever more restrictive censorship and MS bring on board a load of Japanese devs.

I’m also more into innovation. Things like PSVR and the new haptic controllers interest me more than sub services I’ll never have time to make use of. If I was moving from Sony it would more likely be back to Ninty at the moment.

I still have back log of PS4 games i’m chipping away at.
I buy subscriptions when on sale so have:
2 years ps now
3 years ps+

Xbox is looking like nice deal but it’s not going to change my plans as I have more than enough to keep me busy on PS5.

No, not at all. If it ends up being the case that I can only play DOOM (the only thing I'd miss from those studios right now) on Xbox id just pick up a Series S in a few years. Right now what is coming from the Zenimax studios that is close to release apart from Deathloop & Ghostwire?

Nup been with Sony since 95. Plus games from Bethesda has never really interested me. Prefer my j-rpgs

Hi there fellow gamers. I chose the last option since there are very few Bethesda games that interest me, only the games from Arkane Studios, but since I own a PC, there is no need to get an Xbox. Only Game Pass. That´s it.
PS will always be my main system. Way to many awesome gaming experiences that I have and will play on Playstation consoles and I just can´t seem to see myself without them.
Your move Sony. Don´t buy timed exclusives, but acquire really good studios like Bluepoint, Fromsoftware and those great
Konami IPs that so many of us love.
Cheers, stay safe out there and happy gaming to us all

Nope

@carlos82 Agree on Capcom if they had been sold to Microsoft that would have hurt

I own a good PC and Game Pass. I literally don't need an Xbox even if Microsoft bought every third-party publisher on the face of the Earth.

@Constable_What 2K had already announced that games were going up to that price before Sony did

I’m not sure I’ll get either on launch for the first time since SNES days. I’ll stick with my Death Stranding Pro and XBox1 S. I can play all the games apparently as both companies have forgotten to have exclusive big launch titles. I’ll get Spider-Man on PS4.

I will wait for a must have next gen title that runs only next gen.

That or I’ll cave and make an impulse purchase and ps5 is still in pole position for “impulse buy”

If you look at Bethesda's current slate, they have:
Deathloop - Q2 2021 (PS5 timed exclusive)
Ghostwire: Tokyo - 2021 (PS5 timed exclusive)
Starfield - TBA (window is late 2022 / mid-2023)
Elder Scrolls VI - TBA
Wolfenstein III - TBA

That's it. The earliest this becomes a "thing" is late 2022...two years after this gen launches. Most likely 2023...halfway through this generation.

For me. The news is a bit of a hammer blow. I absolutely love Elder Scrolls and Fallout. However, I'm always going to be PlayStation when it comes to consoles.

I think I'm probably going to invest in a decent PC going forward. Particularly with Gamepass. It makes PC an interesting proposition going forward. Especially with the Bethesda acquisition.

@carlos82 @Kopite I genuinely believe capcom should be protected. 😂

No take overs allowed. Their stuff should stay multi platform

Was not going to buy either right now anyway, though this has made the whole next generation more intriguing and I look forward to how it all unfolds. Will consider either in like an year or two, still plenty of life left in my trusty old PS4.

I have an Xbox One S and a PC and use gamepass on these however my PS4 is still my most used console of these. This is largely because of the games - I feel that Sony (along with Nintendo) have made software that I want to play and that I don't feel is predatory. Again, personal preference - the last Bethesda game I really enjoyed was Wolfenstein: The Old Blood and er... Skyrim on Switch!

I am worried what this large acquisition and gamepass will do the industry but right now, PS5 has given more more reasons to invest in their eco system.

It'll be years until Bethesda releases an exclusive for Xbox. Then, maybe, a series S. If its 300€ now, in a couple years it'll be 200€ or less. Until then, more than happy with the PS5

Already have a PC. Don't need an Xbox at all. Still buying a PS5

Realistically, I will likely get a PS5 someday - in my head I've always been thinking 2022. But the sale of Bethesda has definitely made me reconsider what my gaming setup will need to be going forward. You need to add a Poll option: "Still plan on buying a PS5, but now also strongly considering adding a gaming PC".

I'm not buying an Xbox. It makes no sense to buy two dedicated gaming consoles that largely serve the same purpose. The only reasons to get a Series X over a PC is price. I need a new PC anyway and all of Microsoft published stuff will be on PC - it's really a no brainer if you can afford a decent PC.

Its not the end of the world...i'll miss doom but tbh i can see all the games releasing on ps5 at the time when ps5 sales squish micro$oft under foot...again..way too much money to lose out on..

Problably will get an xbox next year!
Now my Xbox One S is enough for gamepass.

Never been a fan of Bethesda's games - just one and that is Dishonored. Freakin' love it.

I choose a different selection that didn't exist - "I was always planning to get both."

I was going with PS5 up until late last year. Now I am glad I chose Xbox as everything they have done in the last 9 months has confirmed that was the right choice.

For me, it really just depends on who they buy out next. I wouldn't buy an Xbox for Bethesda games alone. But if they buy out several more studios who make games I enjoy, and make them exclusive? Might be a different story.

Ultimately though, I'm still leaning towards PS5, because I need my God of War and Naughty Dog franchises and the like.

I have my PS5 pre ordered & really excited for it. But I'll definitely be picking up a Series X, probably when Halo releases.

I'm not really into their games, maybe with some mods, but that's why I have a decent PC.

Makes me more interested in Xcloud for on the GO and will keep me paying for PC Game Pass.

That is about it.

Was never interested in Bethesda games to begin with.

I've come to the decision that as far as I'm concerned I won't be playing either Starfield more TES 6 regardless of whether or not these two titles do end up on the PS5. It's a shame, especially considering how much fun I had playing Skyrim on the 360, but that's how it goes.

I hope Sony come up with rivals to both of these titles. Maybe Naughty Dog can develop their own rival sci-fi saga (which let's be honest is a mouth-watering prospect) or Guerilla Games be given the opportunity to make a fantasy RPG of their own or some other studios anyway.

If Bethesda titles come to PS we'll be beholden to Uncle Phil as well as being told by Xbots how we're subsiding their Game Pass subscription. I'm not sure I wish to play that game!

Nah, Elder Scrolls is dead to me and now and Star-what? Only Star franchise I like comes with Wars at the end.

😉

Lol no, not in the slightest. Only games I've played of thier's is Rage 1/2 and a brief stint with the Fallout 76 beta. None of the rest of their portfolio is of interest so I'll be good, though I recognize how big of a deal it is industry wise.

Possibly. I don't like the idea that once great third party franchises may become exclusive. This is far worse that Sony just producing first party content of their own or a character dlc exclusivity.

Blocking an entire platform from games that have historically been there is wrong and the Xbox fanboys still have the audacity to call Microsoft 'pro-consumer' over on Twitter?

I literally had someone tell me "they are first party so it's not 'anti-consumer'" to which I said "that didn't stop you from calling Sony anti-consumer for not giving you God of War".
THEY'RE HYPOCRITES!

I've been literally getting abused by them all morning on Twitter defending this and calling for more acquisitions even though every last one of them condemns Sony.

One person even said "you don't know what a monopoly is" I'm like "really? So buying up third parties and then hinting at more in order to force people into your 'ecosystem' is not a monopoly?"

They play the 'anti-consumer' card for years and don't tarr Microsoft with the same brush?

I mean, one even said "it's not 'anti-consumer' because they're going to PC" didn't stop you from saying that about Horizon Zero Dawn even though that's on PC!

Am I just crazy or something? Because they sure as hell think so.

A gaming industry dominated by Microsoft is not something I will support!

Not at all. Sony exclusives overall are second to none.

I'm still getting a PS5, that isn't in doubt but if Bethesda's games do indeed become exclusive I'll no doubt buy a Series S/X in a few years, when there are enough new titles from Bethesda, Obsidian, inXile to warrant it.

@blacklivesmatter makes sense that you're here.

First time ever I'm going green. Shame I missed the preorder (thanks argos app for randomly refreshing when I was at checkout).
I will get a ps5 slim when there's some decent bundles about.

I couldn't care less. I will just play next DOOM & Prey on PC.

@GADG3Tx87 I sympathise. Game Pass model basically will means no more second handmarket, can't take your games around a mate's house and/or lend it to him/her, will leave gamers beholden to the whims of the manufacturer as to when games are made available to them and for how long, which will mean you never actually own any slice of media. This is what got people upset seven or so years ago but now same people are cheering from the rooftops about it!

Something very strange has happened within certain sections of the so-called gaming community.

Then there's the question of whether AAA titles are actually sustainable within a cheap subscription service. Maybe if they come loaded with MTXs but again, I thought real gamers were against such shady practices.

🤔

Not a fan of Bethesda all that much myself, but I am going to buy both platforms anyway - just like I have since the ps3/360 days. I know this is a PlayStation site - and that’s where my favorite titles are personally. But why does it always have to be one is better than the other? Some people like Sony, others Microsoft. I never understood why it has to be one OR the other. Why not both? More competition benefits gamers in the end.

I'm lucky in that I'm not really bothered about any of the franchises that have been bought up by this deal. I've recently tried Prey and Dishonoured and got bored quite quickly, and if anything made me realise how much I love the games that PS Studios put out.

It's a shame in general though as it does push more people towards xbox and away from PS. That means that Sony will miss out on more money that those users would have spent in buying those games on the PS platform and that money will go to MS instead.
The smaller the piece of pie that Sony have of the gaming market means the less money they will have to spend on the things they do really well, e.g. amazing AAA games.

Bethesda games will still come to PS4/PS5, that's a lot of money for Bethesda/MS to throw away if they don't. The difference will be £70 on PS5 or part of Gamepass on Xbox/PC/Andriod. Ultimately MS just want people to subscribe to GP. They also announced 15 million subscribe to GP, roughly £10 a month means that's £150m a month to MS. Kerching!

If certain games don't come to PS5, no problem.
I've just built myself a top of the range PC (£2K budget), new 4K monitor, etc so am good to go and will sub to GPU if I feel the need to play them.
For context, I've not finished most Bethesda games I own, so they're not high up on my priority list.

Just like current gen, if MS makes a great game I'll just get that game on PC.

Depends whether microsoft buy Sega or Square Enix. If they do, id get an s and gamepass, but thats it.

I have my PS5 on preorder and i wont even contemplate a second console for at least 2 years

@Col_McCafferty
I absolutely agree. I said to others "don't you understand what GamePass is? It's the no used games, always online, no rights, DRM dream that they wanted in 2013 with a different name"

We all opposed it seven years ago but are people that blind not to see what GamePass really is?

Yeah, it might be cheap now but I believe it can't be sustained on that, the price will rise in time and they'll be paying more than they ever were when they were buying games.

And when Microsoft gets their monopoly we'll all be screwed and they'll be laughing at us.

While I enjoy Bethesda games, they are not even in my top 100. Arkane is the bigger loss to me. Even so, I doubt there is anything Microsoft could ever do to entice me into that eco system.

I think this move is more to stop them from hemorrhaging existing users over to the PS5 like they did with the PS4.

@Constable_What not saying its the right thing to do, its just that everyone seems to forget that 2K are doing it as well

We're missing the answer "No, I don't give a crap about Bethesda and never will".

I don't care about Bethesda games anyway, so it really makes no difference to me.

I'd rather use a gaming pc than buy an xbox.

No, my mind was made up before this announcement, gone X before the PS5. I’ll pick a PS5 up next year most probably.

@GADG3Tx87 Yeah it's amazing that it's not more obvious to everyone but I think the problem is that things like Netflix and Spotify have eased people into having subscriptions for things, especially when it's a relatively small charge each month. I know that Spotify isn't a fair system in the way that money is distributed so I can only imagine that GP will be the same and that a lot of developers will actually miss out in the long run.

@Col_McCafferty Hi there friend. THIS. Absolutely this. People were upset in the begining with Xbox One DRM shenanigans, online only games and all that.
Now they think it´s the best thing ever.
Don´t get me wrong, GP is great value for the consumer...... As of now. But in the future? I don´t think so. And good quality gaming experiences coming from a monthly subscription?
Yeah...... Not gonna happen I´m afraid.
Not only that, you will not own a single game. If you don´t have internet, if the games leave GP, or worse, leave the Xbox store, no more games for you. And that´s a really bad thing in my book.
I´ll stick with Playstation(PS4 and PS5), my Nintendo Switch and my PC thank you very much, good afternoon, good evening and good day 😜
Cheers, stay safe and have a good one

Not a fan of Bethesda so it hasn't influenced me at all. If the rumour about Sega turned out to be true that would be different, mind! Either way, I'm very much hoping to get a Xbox at some point anyway, as I'm very excited for Fable and Hellblade, and would love to give Forza a go at some point. But PS5 will be the first next gen console I buy and likely my "main" platform.

@Col_McCafferty @GADG3Tx87 Or it's merely an option for people who don't want to pay $60 (soon $70) pop per game.

Keyword: Option

You don't have to have Game Pass. All games in Game Pass are available for purchase elsewhere. In fact, when a game is getting ready to leave Game Pass, Microsoft does a 20% sale of the game up until the time it is removed.

No one is forcing you to get Game Pass as the only solution for owning games in the same way that you don't have to have a Netflix subscription to watch movies that are on there as you can buy them elsewhere - where are the red flags for streaming services? Isn't PS Now also a Game Pass structure?

Yes, you can't trade with friends. But honestly, trading with your friends and letting them play a game they haven't paid for is kind of the same thing - the company lost a sale because you let your friend borrow the game and perhaps play it to completion. Will they buy it afterwards? Who knows? But you, as a person, potentially took a sale away from a company.

I am not saying you have to like Game Pass. But it is a great value for those who like it and it's not mandatory.

Nah, I have my PC for Game Pass so I have no interest in buying an Xbox.

@RaZieLDaNtE. I agree with you.dishonored games is excellent.i do like prey and evil within.word up son

I'm still getting a PS5. It'll be my primary console no doubt about that, but I'd be lying if I said I'm not tempted to get the Series S as a secondary console purely for the games pass.

That said, I'm a PS fan so I'm hoping Sony snap up a historically big company like Konami or Capcom to add some leverage. Just incase MS start restricting PS5 access to Bethesda games.

For example Sony could say "keep your Bethesda games multi-platform or our new Capcom/Konami etc games will go exclusive too" I know it's not that straightforward but it's what I'd like to see happen. Also anything to stop MS snapping up more big companies.

@GamingFan4Lyf While everything you said is absolutely right, I think the big worry is that like many things that used to be an option, the option will be eventually taken away. Example: It used to be an option to get digital titles on the PC. You could still buy them physically if you wanted. The benefits to publishers and developers was too beneficial there, so the "option" eventually became the standard mode of operation.

No but as a non pc gamer who likes an rpg, it makes me think ill end up with an xbox as well. This plus game pass is a big draw. Having said that, it changes nothing just now. Only reason id cancel my ps5 preorder is if the backwards compability stuff for ps4 is poor (which i don't think it will be).

@Constable_What @GamingFan4Lyf

That's not entirely the point. The Xbox fans claim for years that "exclusives are anti-consumer" but is buying up an entire third party publisher and (potentially) locking an entire ecosystem out when when these games have historically been present not also anti-consumer?

How is that fair? How can they claim MS are still 'pro-consumer'.

@GADG3Tx87 Hi there friend. Yeah, absolutely.
Game Pass might seem like the best deal in gaming. But just think about this: why should developers make quality games with a lot of money involved if the players only pay a few bucks a month? Nah, let´s just make games with the bare minimum, with microtransactions, game as a service type and be done with it.
And that is a HUGE PROBLEM. If gamers aren´t able to see that, they absolutely should.
And some of you are right, it is an option. You don´t need to get Game Pass at all. but as of now, why wouldn´t you? So many people are completely on board with it, be it on Xbox or PC.
I still have a lot of reservations regarding Game Pass and the possible monopoly of Microsoft. Like the end song of one of my favourite games: "Time only knows" exactely what all of this will mean for the gamers.
Cheers, stay safe and may we all be able to enjoy the fantastic universe of gaming

Really like Oblivion but never clicked with Skyrim, really liked Fallout 3 but never clicked with Fallout 4 so unless ES6/FO5 does something amazing in another 2 years plus time, then it really won't bother me.
Personally, I think MS will allow Bethesda to still support multi-platform for the big titles, a bit like Minecraft. It's a guaranteed cash stream for them and, heaven forbid, that the PS5 sells a truck load more than the XBox again, they still get revenue.

@RaZieLDaNtE
EXACTLY! THANK YOU!
How can more people not see this? They're blinded by 'cheap' right now but what happens in one of two scenarios? Either the game quality across the industry decreases potentially bringing about the gaming crash of the 80's or the prices of these 'services' rise to meet the cost of production and we end up paying more than ever even when we're not playing!

This should have been considered and stood against a long time ago! Their 2013 dream is almost complete and when MS screws the industry up, which they have a habit of doing in many situations we all suffer.

I don't want gaming to change.

Without going into detail I suffer from a terrible mental health condition, gaming is my only source of joy nowadays, my only form of escape from an awful life. Without it... Well I don't want to go there right now.

Also, Hi friend! That was a nice greeting.

Nope. I've to my Series X and a PS5 Digital Edition, so I am good now for next-gen. No need to miss out on anything. Quite pleased.

No because the overall value of the PS5 is still more for me. If Fallout 5 is some huge masterpiece, I might consider the S on a sale, especially since they have Obsidian. I have a Vita that I use for pretty much exclusively Japanese games, and my Nintendo consoles rarely have anything that aren’t exclusive for them, so if the S is $150 on sale in a few years, that’s fine for a console mainly for some good WRPGs and shooters if they’re not coming to PS5. It doesn’t change that I use PlayStation for my main console.

When Microsoft say case by case they mean they'll release a game multi platform when they know PS4/5 will be the biggest sales in Europe.

Never into RPG games. The only RPG I finished was FF X-2 and I spent about 100 hours. Now I can no longer spend a lot of time on games. Can’t even finish open world games these days.

@GADG3Tx87 I´m with you, I don´t want anyone or anything to screw with one of my passions , no sir.
And as for waht you told me, hang in there friend. Living life takes a lot of guts, sometimes even more so. Find strenght in your family, firends, loved ones and especially in yourself. We all have it even if we don´t know it. And just try to enjoy life as best as you can by doing what gives you the most joy.
Cheers, stay safe and all the best my friend

Still sticking with PS5. I'm not really a big fan of Bethesda. The only game they have that I really care about is Elder Scrolls. For their other games, there are a few I'd play but only if I'm in the mood for them and have nothing else to play.

Someday I will plan to get a new Xbox or Upgrade to PC for the Xbox needs. I wouldn't be happy not getting to play Elder Scrolls on PS5 but I will get to play it even if it's not. If it comes to PS5 I'd chase the platinum after I'm done with the game but if it doesn't then I'll just play the story and then I'm done as I've no interest in the Xbox Achievements.

@GADG3Tx87 @RaZieLDaNtE The trouble is that people generally don't see past wanting to pay the lowest amount of money for something. They don't see what will happen down the line once that company has hovered up all the sales that otherwise would have been distributed about the industry. That has essentially taken away a load of choice that we used to get with who you spend your money with which is particularly bad if you find out that say they don't pay all the taxes that they should.

@Thesnipergecko Target audience, so not really.

Not like you have to convert Xbox players.

That reminds me of E2014 when there were people here going 'that's it, I go xbox now. Cant resist Platinum Games...'

For me it's a solid no. I get PlayStation's, like Nintendo consoles, primarily for first party exclusive games, those will still be on PS5 / Switch. Also most of my friends / former colleagues game on PSN, have done since the days of PS3, it's how we keep in touch mostly nowadays as we"re flung to the four corners of the earth. I don"t need an Xbox to access Game Pass or MS games because I have a gaming PC... soon to have a much better and smaller gaming PC, so I have no real need for an Xbox. But I understand for others that's different.

@Constable_What Hi there friend. Maybe the words that I used were not the best way to express my personal oppinons. But if you don´t think Microsoft buying Zenimax and possibly more gaming companies with those deep pockets of theirs and having a monopoly on their own is a good thing, well then it is your oppinion and I respect that.
And as for the price increase of PS5 exclusive games, well.... If you want quality, your gonna have to pay for it. Big, quality games without any kind of microtransactions don´t come cheap to make. Game Developers need to have profit just like any other developer out there. Does it suck? Yeah, it does.
Even so, it is understandable, and quite frankly, I thought this kinda of thing would happen in the very begining of this generation.
It´s an expensive hobby/passion that we gamers have and that is the reality of things.
I changed the wording on my comment. No more corporate greed 😜
Cheers, stay safe out there and have a good one

It's a no from me, but for a variety of reasons.

1) All my friends play Playstation. I'm not going to go and play by myself on Xbox.

2) Sony haven't done anything for me to feel that my allegiance to their vision, their console and their future products should be shaken, just because a megacorp like Microsoft can snap up a huge video game developer like Zenimax.

3) I have a PC and can play most of what I want on there regarding Xbox products, so I see zero point in getting a console

4) Sony is cooler

They can have the crap that is 76. Lol

PlayStation for life

I plan on getting one eventually but I have no rush to get one any time soon.

I imagine most people that are coming to a Playstation only news site are probably pretty entrenched in buying Playstation no matter what.

@Peach64 You'd be surprised. A lot of covert Xbox fanatics around trying to preach.

I've seen a fair share of Xbox enthusiasts on this site.

Did Xbox acquire Sony Japan, Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Santa Monica, Bend, San Diego and Guerrilla in the Bethesda deal?

@thefourfoldroot Your comment made me go check on my Xbox profile and everything's still intact. My 13,000G+ Achievements, Friends list are all intact, how'd yours get deleted. I think I remember something like a period was giving for people to login or risk losing their account, is that it...

As for the poll, I love Sony's eye for finding and nurturing talent to make outstanding games. On the other hand I don't hate Xbox, I loved my 360 along with its controller and all the free games that was yours to keep with Gold, and not locked behind subscription. MS are good at getting you games cheaply, see GamePass. I love Bethesda and all the games under their umbrella, so if some of them are going exclusive, I might consider Xbox. For now I'm still TeamPlayStation because PlayStation Studios and Trophies.

Definitely getting an Xbox Series S now along with a PS5.

Xbox gamepass is too good of service to ignore now. My PC isnt that great so a $299 box that lets me play at 1440P / 120FPS is a steal.

@Constable_What
The stuff you mentioned is more likely to push me back mostly to Xbox than MS' purchase of Bethesda, actually. I put the pre-order in for PS5, won't be getting Series X until later on. But if I see games are mostly staying at $60 on Xbox while they're $70 on PlayStation, I have no problem taking most of my business to Xbox as I'm also heavily invested in that ecosystem.

Preordered XSX because of this news. And PS5.

I hate input lag and in ubisoft games on ps4 it was big enough. So I will see where game better playing.

I really would not care if MS take back the 2 games as well.
let's see how long the Xbox Division can keep being a black hole for money. I heard if MS did not come in Bethesda was going to start studio closures.

It's sad to see people becoming bitter over the two consoles. There's no need to take sides - I'll get a PS5 as planned, and then if The Elder Scrolls and Fallout do turn out to be exclusives, then I can just wait until halfway through the generation and go pull an Xbox out of a skip or something.

Why it should make me reconsider?

ES will remain multi, and all the exclusives to be will also be release on Windows....

PS5 + PC it's still the best combination for next gen has it has been the current one...

@Constable_What wasn't trying to trigger you just making the point its not just Sony

No because these games won't be coming out for years. XBOX doesn't have any other games coming near release that I want to play. But I will definitely buy one at some point, I wasn't planning on that before this news

I'm taking a wait and see approach for both, and playing my PS4 for now.
I find it eyeroll inducing how dismissive people are of the Zenimax acquisition though.

@Constable_What Thanks for the reply. I don´t want Sony to make profit per se. I want the developers to make profit so they can continue to make and deliver the amazing gaming experiences they have been creating for the gamers. Do you see games like The Last os US part 2or Ghost of Tsushima or Days Gone or God of War with microtransactions? No, you do not. All of them got additional content for Free. Only Horizon Zer Dawn, Spiderman and Bloodborne got paid dlc. And they were pretty good(HZD and BB dlc were awesome imo).
Raising the price in this case it´s not that bad. It sucks yes, but not that bad.
Games like NBA2K, Madden 21 and the like though.......
Now that´s greedy. 100%.
But as long people are willing to buy them and pay for their microtansactions, they will keep at it.
That´s corporate greed right there 😜
Cheers, stay safe and enjoy the rest of your day

I wanted a disc PS5 & still do but all the Microsoft buying convinced me to preorder an S from Target yesterday but at least I can play Fable whenever it comes out now

For me, changes nothing. My rule is that I'll get a PS5 once there are 5 PS5 games I want to play but are not available on Xbox or PS4.

I don't count timed exclusives and don't care for PC gaming. All multi-plats will go to my Series X, and these were always going to come to Xbox.

Nah, I'll just invest in my gaming PC and get both Sony and Microsoft exclusives and not have to choose.

@TheArt
I believe so. They had a period where if you didn’t log in they deleted your account. Of course, without logging in you never got the message that you had to log in...Still don’t know how they can justify shutting accounts with paid for digital content, but I guess they had some small print somewhere and, as we’re always told, you don’t actually “own” digital games.

@thedevilsjester @GADG3Tx87 I am an Xbox fan, but I am not in that camp that exclusives are anti-consumer. Every product on the market needs to differentiate itself in order to survive otherwise what's the point of competition? But, I am also financially able to buy both a PS5 and a Series X - so maybe that's where a lot of "bitterness" comes from towards other platforms as not everyone has such a luxury.

I think there is a lot of speculation on what could happen, without solid evidence of what will happen. Streaming hasn't killed the DVD/Blu-ray market.

I recently watched an interview with Phil Spencer regarding the ZeniMax acquisition and he basically said that Microsoft is going to leave the studios alone to do their thing and that this is mostly about strengthening Game Pass value.

One can argue that these studios will lose sales, but they are under Microsoft's financial umbrella. Their lights will stay one, the employees get paid, life goes on. Plus ,again, these games are also sold for those who don't want a subscription.

We are so fixed on "sales" regarding Microsoft's own studios, but the company itself makes a butt-ton of money in so many different fields that I would say that these studios are safe.

Third-party developers get a handsome amount of money to get Day 1 on Microsoft (rare as that may be, and mostly limited to indie games).

Yes, there was the "case by case basis" statement, regarding exclusivity of ZeniMax IP, but that could solely be for new IP development, not established IP - or Microsoft could simply let these developers to what they do best and simply make the money off sales.

I think things like Elder Scrolls, DOOM, Starfield, The Evil Within, Dishonored, Wolfenstein, etc. are safe - there is a legacy of multi-platform release there that Microsoft would be stupid to dismiss.

But, lets look at Minecraft IP - Minecraft Dungeons is multi-console when it certainly didn't need to be. Microsoft could have left multi-console release to just base Minecraft since it was around before Microsoft took over. Psychonauts 2 is multi-console despite owning Double Fine. What about Wasteland 3 - yes, it's not published by Microsoft, but inXile is owned by Microsoft (granted the game has probably been in development and funded by publisher prior to Microsoft acquisition and was the same boat as The Outer Worlds).

Maybe Microsoft has reached out about games going to Sony, but Sony said no since Sony doesn't want to have a link to free Xbox Live accounts in order for games to exist on PlayStation. Microsoft would probably happily but Halo on PS5, as long as it connects to Xbox Live for multiplayer.

Microsoft is mostly about consumption of it's services over physical sales these days - so whatever platform allows for said consumption of services, it will look towards that platform. Sony could be restricting that consumption - as is Sony's right. Microsoft only produces hardware in order to provide a guaranteed product to consume said Microsoft resources.

@lacerz

Bethesda has 8 studios so they are working on a lot more titles than you mention

Although I'm not going to buy a PS5 at launch, I will still be getting it. (If nothing else just for FFXVI) Bethesda being bought out by Microsoft means nothing to me due to wanting to play a majority of their games on PC anyway- which they do sell on both platforms. So I see no point in getting an Xbox, it was good choice by them to do so but I'm not a party who's effected.

@Constable_What
Ever since Kaz Hirai stepped down and Kenichiro Yoshida took over Sony has been a gigantic you know what show. Giving Jim Ryan control of PlayStation was his most idiotic decision.

As someone who doesn’t have a particularly great pc, never had an Xbox, don’t really care about 4K/no 4K tv at the moment anyway - I’ll get the Series S. PlayStation still have superior exclusives - and I believe they’ll continue to do so in the future - but I’ll wait for an eventual PS5 Slim, and in the meantime get me a “Netflix” gaming maschine until then.

It’s all you Windows pc owners that fund these acquisitions.

@GamingFan4Lyf I understand most of your points, and you are right about Microsoft supporting the PS4 where it didn't need to (PSVR for Minecraft for example) but they were really really vague in their statements about the acquisition which is either because they don't want to say that right now and eat into Xbox sales, or they don't plan to let the (new) games come to PS5.

I don't really care to be honest. Bethesda isn't a big loss for me. I would like to have their games on the system, but there are already more games than I could ever hope to play (my PS4 backlog is insane, and we are moving to PS5!)

I’ve pre ordered a Series S after only ever seeing myself getting a PS5 but not because of this news. The game pass, backwards compatibility and value off the series S was too good to turn down! And the fact that I’ve not touched Xbox since my 360 means I’m going to have so much to play for good value! However I’m still sticking with my PS4 for Miles Morales and other PlayStation exclusives and I have my VR so will be getting Star Wars Squadrons for that! But I’ll get a PS5 eventually in a year or 2 if there’s good incentive to do so. Fallout and Elder scrolls are some off my favourites too so guess it’s good news for my Xbox but I reckon the big ones will surely release on PS5 anyway, they’ll miss out on too much money, but they’ll be on game pass for better value I reckon... Also for me seems like Sony aren’t even trying. Xbox seem to be going all out etc, where as it feels like Sony are just happy to leave everything as is, show us nothing, nothing to compete all PS5 has at this point is it’s exclusive IP’s.

@thedevilsjester I am not a huge fan of Bethesda developed games either.

Skyrim, to me, was just okay. I played maybe a couple hours of Fallout 4 and lost interest, same with Fallout 3.

I don't particularly like games that are meant to be "lived in". Don't get me wrong, I don't mind if a game take 80 hours to finish, but if 60 or so of those hours are main story content, with another 20 hours being side-quests, then it's worth it - for me.

Getting DOOM Eternal on Game Pass...well...now we are talking since I don't own the game, yet. Dishonored 2 is on Game Pass right now and is supposed to leave on Oct 1. Maybe it will stay? I wouldn't mind The Evil Within 2 hitting Game Pass either - I have the first game on PS4, but would gladly switch consoles if it meant playing on Game Pass.

The most recent Bethesda games were pretty bad (Fallout 76 terrible) and the next Bethesda game is still years off... And they might not even be Xbox exclusive Phil Spencer said.

So yeah, a PS5.

@GamingFan4Lyf
I do hope you're right. Since EA bought BioWare Bethesda became the most prestigious RPG developer around and I would like to continue playing TES and Fallout but I would preferably like to keep gaming on a single platform due to lack of time and the fact that having more than one gives me anxiety. When I got my Xbox 360 for example I stopped playing on PS3, I have personal issues with having too much stuff and not doing anything with it.

I don't understand why Sony would block the need for a free Xbox Live account to play Microsoft published games? What's the point? Surely you still pay Sony for access via PSPlus and if you're not also paying for Xbox Live simultaneously what's the problem?

If I were in charge of Sony I'd go for it, surely it benefits them because people would have to pay for Plus?

To be honest, there hasn't been much reason for me to consider buying a PS5 since, one, Horizon II will be on PS4, two, I have an enormous backlog, and three, there aren't any PS5 games coming out in the near future I really want. That being said, Microsoft purchasing Bethesda, which owns franchises like Dishonored, Elder Scrolls, and Fallout, does give me even further pause about my gaming future.

I won't be buying a next-gen console any time soon. I'd like to have a more refined version anyway... But when I do decide, I can say Microsoft will not be ruled out as a contender, especially as they have Obsidian as well. Depends on whether they make these games exclusive or not. There's also issues with Sony's censorship antics; that may play a part in my decision also. Dunno, may just stick with Nintendo.

I can't even remember the last time I played a Bethesda game.

Plenty of other games on PlayStation, yes Bethesda has made some good games in the past but most people buy playstation for the outstanding first party games they produce. Most people aren't going to jump ship just to play a couple of games which won't be released for a few years and personally I'm not going to buy a second console just for these few games. They will lose sales this way from PlayStation and Nintendo owners so it's there loss in my eyes.

I've always owned 2 machines in a row by the same company. This will be the first time I've had 3 in a row and it happens to be PlayStation. One machine is enough, I can live without games exclusive to other systems, It's always been that way with me!

I was all for ps5 - no hesitation. Xbox hadn't even crossed my mind but chance of exclusives for e.g. New elder scrolls or doom sequels is honestly giving me pause for thought. So voted middle. Think I will have to wait for more news before deciding. Will prob stay Sony though, even thinking otherwise feels disloyal/dirty

PlayStation will still be my #1 place to play. Even if Fallout and Elder scrolls don't come out to PlayStation I'll just build a new gaming PC. I should but I've been lazy for a minute now. 😅 Now I have a reason to finish it.

People who voted yes what basis Is that on? Certain games or fav developer ?

@Constable_What bro they are losing tons of money when they are making the ps5

Nope I didn't enjoy fallout 4 or skyrim oblivion was amazing 14 years ago.

@GADG3Tx87 Hey I agree with you on that.

But there ware articles on this very site a long time ago regarding Minecraft's Better Together Updates, cross-play with Nintendo Switch, and about the very idea of PS4 having to link to a Xbox Live account (and not having to pay a second fee for Xbox Live to play multiplayer since PS+ already takes care of it) and the response here was basically [and I am paraphrasing] "Eff Microsoft." and "Nintendo and Microsoft need each other, but we don't need them." and "Why should we have to link to Live accounts?"

PS4 Minecraft got left behind due to the requirement for an Xbox Account because of the way the Bedrock Edition was structured - which finally got sorted out in late December 2019 signing into a Microsoft account was allowed in Minecraft on PS4.

So things have softened, I am just not sure how far that Xbox Live allowance would extend from Sony/Microsoft's standpoint for any potential future games from Xbox Game Studios on PlayStation platform that require an Xbox Live account.

@blacklivesmatter
They probably are, but those unnamed titles are 2024 at the very earliest. Hell, Elder Scrolls VI and Wolfenstein III are probably 2024.

@Vorlon Microsoft these days makes most its money from services like Azure cloud services. One of their big customers is Sony. If you use any PlayStation Online services, you help fund Microsoft as much, or more so than, a PC owner.

Microsoft earns very little these days from selling Windows.

@GamingFan4Lyf
Wait. So you say they got that sorted out in December 2019. Do you mean that Sony budged on the need to link an XBL account to PSN? if so, well that's a step in the right direction. I don't want Sony to get all arrogant again and think they're untouchable, especially now on the cusp of a new generation and things have suddenly become uncertain.

I read somewhere in this thread that someone thinks Jim Ryan should go. And I do also think he is not the right guy to run PlayStation.

I miss Jack Tretton. I didn't like Andrew House at first but I feel that Jim might send us up s**t creek. He's not much better than Phil Spencer who I also don't like very much.

@GADG3Tx87 Yes, Sony budged and PS4 got the Bedrock Edition of Minecraft.

Now, it's possible that the negotiations limited this access to a single game, but I honestly don't know. I can't confirm if Minecraft Dungeons PS4 requires a Microsoft account.

@Yoatemybeans - no they aren't. show me an article that says sony is losing "tons of money making ps5" .

buying bethesda doesn't bother me. i buy PS for the exclusives. if ES6 comes to ps5, i'll play it - if it doesn't, i won't play it.
really, i think MS overpaid on this deal.

No. just no. besides, I don't get the fuss about game pass. ps+ offers some really good value, if you are a long time member. sooooo many games, sooooo little time. gamepass prices will increase. lure them in, show them the shiny stuff, make them pay and lose steam along the way.... that's what I think will happenremember the ps+ price increase. the whole Internet was not very pleased. everything comes around

Where is the option - I will buy a PS5 and play better versions of Xbox Exclusives on a PC then???

Last Bethesda game I played was over a decade ago, this changes nothing.

@eddie429 I agree. I doubt they'll go the exclusive route anyway. They'll have to make $7,500,000,000 in profits, just to break even on this deal. That will take years. Maybe even a decade.

@Thesnipergecko I think that’s the point. To see how MS’s news has affected PlayStation gamers views. Not many better places to have the poll really...

Even if Doom, Wolfenstein, TES, and Fallout became Xbox exclusives, I still wouldn't buy one.

Well, I'm no fanboy, so whatever one gets me Elder Scrolls VI I will go with thb. I must have that game, lol.

I never been a big Bethesda fan. But missing Dishonored is still dissapointing and Doom is also quite dissapointing.

I'm missing something along the lines of "No, I might buy an Xbox Series S|X at some point in the future, but Bethesda acquisition has no impact on this."

The only thing I like about Sony is their 3rd person action adventure games, I have played almost all of their exclusives and enjoyed them very much. If they stop doing that then i'm switching sides

I'm getting a PS5 at launch and doing a major computer upgrade 2-3 years down the line.

The plan has not changed, if anything it's less likely to change now.

Decided early on that PS5 was number one purchase between the two consoles for exclusives at launch. Total no brainer. I’ve an XBOX 1X so no need to rush in yet as there are literally no exclusives worth my cash for ages. Halo demo last month confirmed that mess. And like so many of the other comments here, I agree Bethesda won’t produce anything for at least a year or more. So no. Not a day one purchase. But MSFT don’t care, as long as they get my GP subscription.
Personally I’m stoked for DS & Spider-Man. And seriously, will there be THAT much of a difference on the multi-plats of Cyberpunk and Valhalla?? I think not...

I’ll see how things play out. But this is definitely a blow to the PS5 from my point of view. I’ve played a lot of Bethesda games on PlayStation, they might have even been my favorite 3rd party developer.

Not gonna buy PS5 or XBOX whatever, until years from now when the prices go down...

Sonys arrogance and greed is making me reconsider the PS5.

I was always getting both. Everyone loves Bethesda games, then they go Xbox exclusive and it’s all “I never liked them anyways, their games are trash”. This is why you don’t pledge loyalty to one console

I’ll definitely purchase a PS5 first.

But this confirms my desire to buy an Xbox for the first time since the 360. I’ll pick up a Series S next Christmas.

I’ll have my Switch, PS5, and Series S. Seems like a good combination to me.

My heart's always been with PlayStation but I've also owned every Xbox to date, so I'll carry on and get both as per usual. Being a huge Halo and Gears of War fan too, makes it a no brainer for me. To me, it's not about great consoles, I'm just interested in great games and Xbox had always had lots of 'em, as has PC and Nintendo

@Yoatemybeans
What makes you think I'm an Xbox fanboy?

Hmmmmmmm Let me think.................................................................. Nope

Doesn't bother me. I found it hard enough to keep up and play so many games this gen and previous gens. If Bethesda just stick to xbox and pc oh well it gives me more breathing space to play games on PlayStation and on my pc. Games coming out nowadays are getting more polished, last longer and by the time I've completed one or two games, the next ones I'd like are on sale and it's non-stop! And with PS plus and Epic throwing away freebies every week/month my library games is growing ever bigger weekly but not enough time to play!! Still thumbs up to Microsoft cos they are trying to fix their weak side... Ie. Good quality high rated exclusives. Possibly in 3-4 years when xbox s/x is half price or cheaper then I might dip in as a 2nd console.

@Constable_What
Unfortunately all the people responsible for what happened with the PS4, excluding Mark Cerny and Shu Yoshida (who's role has been diminished), are no longer with the company. I'd like to see things get back on track too, won't happen as long as that idiot Jim Ryan is there. Guess we'll see what happens. If PS5 starts getting out-paced by Series X/S, hopefully changes are made sooner rather than later. Be nice if these companies didn't have to take a butt kicking or two to wise up but that's never the case. They taste a little success and for some reason then go full moron.

Still looking for the

'Yes i'm buying a PS5, and will wait and see if games i want are Xbox exclusives before i decide on buying an Xbox also.'

option, this poll is basically useless without it as we don't know which games will be exclusives, if any.

@GADG3Tx87 You keep saying good things about gamepass. Game pass might be good for the players but its not that good for xbox or the bethesda

Fallout is my fave nonZelda franchise.. kinda makes me wanna switch to Xbox

Honestly Bethesda just don’t have that magic with me anymore. I really don’t feel like I’m missing out. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I was always getting both eventually. The Xbox was always going to be first as it is advertised as being better for current gen games. PS5 is too focussed on its limited number of new games and none that really warrant a £500 spend for me.

Between that and buying obsidian and inexile it's made me think for sure. The question is can Xbox get back to the glory days of the 360? Red ring of death aside. Granted in most generations I've had both, up until Xbox one/PS4 when I could see little reason to get an Xbox one. Granted the controller is better than the dual shock but games wise Sony beat them hands down. There's not a single Xbox one exclusive I'm interested in. But the many of my favourite games are made by obsidian, Bethesda, arkane and ID. So maybe, or maybe I'll just get both again.

@Yoatemybeans
I think you've got the wrong guy. I didn't say anything good about GamePass. I expressed my concerns over it in my posts above.

I don't support GamePass, I don't support not having control over my games no matter how cheap they are. I don't believe in the long run it is sustainable.

Besides, I have owned Xbox's in the past but not an Xbox One and if I can help it not an Xbox Series S/X either.

I also can't abandon all the work I put into earning my 90 Platinums I have so far.

had a clear out of stuff that has been boxed up since we moved to switzerland 3 years ago. pre ordered ps5 and the series s. and bought some lego. lol

To be blunt hell no. You won't even see any fruits from this purchase on Xbox until at least 2022. PS5 is getting 2 timed exclusive Bethesda games next year alongside the rest of their killer lineup. I can't tell you a single Series X exclusive coming this year or next that I'm getting except maybe Halo. Psychonauts 2 I'll get on PlayStation.

I was always going to own both regardless but Bethesda has never made any of my favorite games. I'll just play them on Game Pass in the future if they don't come to PlayStation.

@GADG3Tx87 feel the same. Microsoft's move just makes me dislike them more. They want to brute force the industry and try to force a Gamepass future. I'm not playing that game. I think many others feel the same way too

It's definitely a disappointment that Bethesda games likely won't come to PS5. However, any of those are probably 2 years minimum away. I think the landscape in terms of pricing could change in that period. We may also be on the verge of the 'pro' or 'slim' versions of each of the new consoles.

There isn't an option that really fits me. I was always going to buy a PS5 and Series X and this deal hasn't made any difference. In the end, I picked No but I will buy a Series S/X alongside a PS5 as that seems the closest.

If anything, this deal has made Game Pass a much more attractive proposition. I normally like to buy my games outright on Disc but with Prices going up forcing me to reconsider buying games at launch, Game Pass now is a much better value option - not that it was bad value before. Adding EA Access and now all of Zenimax games - all on game pass at launch, means that I will now probably add a Game Pass subscription.

I will still be getting a PS5 regardless as its still the only place I can play Sony's Exclusives - even if I don't end up buying anywhere near as many games at launch

@JapaneseSonic same here I already have a One X and honestly I've played more 360 titles on it than One games. I'm assuming that I'm good for a few years and won't need to upgrade because I really want to play Hellblade 2

So basically some of you will buy into Microsoft based on assumptions? If you going for a Xbox what games are you going for and when is their release date? I have always been open to buy a second console. It will not be shinny hardware with slightly more power that will do it for me! In the last 7 years Microsoft has not shown the big budget high quality games like Sony PlayStation.

@Col_McCafferty The 1st party games never leave Game Pass. It makes it easier to play with friends because if you both have Game Pass, you all have access to the same library. Right now, Microsoft has 15 million subscribers and makes 10-15 dollars per month per subscriber. That's 187.5 million per month. So even right now, the revenue is enough to release a Triple A title every month. That's why they are trying to get more studios. If it really takes off, they might have 100+ million subscribers 10 years from now. And once they are done growing it, they might raise the price.

I don’t think I’ll ever own another Xbox as long as I live. Why would I when xbox games are on PC?

Sony and Nintendo only going forward, after the dumpster fire that was the Xbox one and buying a Multi platform Publisher Microsoft can go sodomize itself with a zune.

I googled Bethesda's games and none of them I like except for Wolfenstein.. so even if they decided to make it exclusive it's not enough to buy a whole console.. I was planning all along to buy both consoles until Xbox last event and there's not a single launch game!!
I preordered PS5 but I couldn't even invent any excuse for myself to preorder the Xbox unfortunately.. so I might skip this generation also like the one before.

@PullnPray They'll never reach 100m+ subscribers, I'll even make a small friendly bet for charity on it.

😜

The poll needs a PS5/Switch Pro combo voting option.

@Hobbesyall Exactly! Demon’s Souls immediately sold me a launch PS5, no hesitation. Bluepoint is going to knock it out of the park!

@Col_McCafferty I would make that bet, but I doubt I'd have a way to collect years from now. I expect that they will get to 50 million by the end of this generation just from people on console and PC. They've gone from 10 million to 15 million just since April. But mobile gaming is much bigger than console gaming. More than 2.5 billion people have smart phones. In places where the internet is solid, I think mobile gamers will love xCloud. The technology will improve, infrastructures will improve, and eventually the majority of smart phone / tablet users will be able to use xCloud with imperceptible latency.

This is huge for Microsoft. For me I was 95% sure I was buying a ps5. I always have been a Sony fan and they always have the most single player games and rpgs. Now it is 50/50. I wasn't going to buy for another year anyways so I'll see how this plays out, but this the first time where I honestly dont know which one I will get.

And another thing, PlayStation first parties ruled this Gen.
Bethesda Evil within was good but not scary like Silent hill (DEMO). Fallout 4 was good but has it bugs and 76 is horrible to me. Sony will need to make something like Fallout. Key word "MAKE" , MS has the money but Sony can still make the same moves just smarter . Seven Billion is chump change to both companies.
But I believe MS will try to get CD Project Red and another big company . Sony has good relationship with Bluepoint, Activision , Capcom ,Square E, Epic, Devolver , Bungie , Kojima Productions and more . We don't no what the future holds but we say money and power gets you no where without skill and passion..........

@Col_McCafferty You do know you can still buy the games? It's not like they're gone forever. When they leave gamepass you usually get the option to buy at a discounted price. In general can you actually lend digital games to friends?

Anyway to answer the topic of discussion.
I had decided a while ago not to bother getting the PS5 and just stick with my PS4 pro for another couple of years. Most of the exclusives Sony has been showing are mid / end of next year releases. The lack of communication in general has been awful. Haven't confirmed any certified expandable memory. Backwards compatability is cloudy at best. Then to top it off the farce that was the pre-orders!

As much as ESO has been my near sole game for roughly 2 years now I’m still getting a PS5. All my favorite IPs are Sony games so this is where I play. If ESO goes Xbox exclusive I’d miss it but I wouldn’t buy a console for solely 1 game.

Ime worried about The Elder Scrolls 6 not being on PS5 as for anything else I dont care

As there is not a single Bethesda game I care about, no.

But you need to make your poll option less restricted. Just because it doesn’t influence my decision for a PS5 it doesn’t mean I’ll never buy and Xbox.

No, these games can be played on PC, just as they would have been if MS hadn't have bought them out. Will still be keeping my PS5 pre-order.

Starfield is definitely coming to PS5!
They've been working on it for years, why throw all that work away?
Xbox might have timed exclusivity but we'll get it eventually.

Nothing changed for me. Still getting a PS5 especially since Final Fantasy XVI was revealed.

It changes nothing, I have a gaming laptop so it pretty much covered. PS5/PC/Switch combo all the way for next gen.

Already have a Series S ordered as an upgrade for my OG XBO and while this takeover has no bearing on my decision I'm not getting a PS5 at launch. Had Miles Morales and the new Horizon game been PS5 only then I would have but I'm quite happy to play them on my Pro and wait a year or two to buy one.

I am stunned that nearly 25% of readers here (a devoted Playstation fan site) would reconsider their PS5 purchase or even decide not to get a PS5, simply because Bethesda's new games, WHICH ARE YEARS AWAY, may not be on Playstation. Especially because Sony's first party games overall crush Bethesda's titles. I guess the XBox game plan is working...

@thefourfoldroot exactly the same for me. Thumbs up

I personally (that's only my point of view) feel it suits xbox perfectly. The games are also very PC oriented. Not really my type of games.
I wish good luck to the thousands of employees.

Cany really cast a vote as ive always said i wont get another Microsoft console (lack of exclusives, fanboy etc) but i must admit thu buzz they have created is defenately doing them favours this time and i wont rule out getting one a few years down the road but cant say "i will" get one. To be fair, from what ive seen i could quitr happily wait a year or 2 for PS5 as well. My hype train has well and truly left the station.

@Deadcow

The Gamepass thing being tempting I can understand, but was not getting your pre order first really that big of a deal? Lots more stock incoming before New Year. Have you always managed to get into the first batch of pre-orders every gen?

I’m hoping that the whole Plus/Now/Collection thing is simplified and unified. Plus want phone streaming added. Don’t really care about whether they put games on at release or a couple of years later though, I can only play 1-2hrs a day max so my backlog of games I want to play is huge anyway and I can’t keep up with new releases regardless.

@thefourfoldroot I don't understand why would Xbox delete your account.
I too haven't played since gears of wars 1 was released, but recently recovered my password and logged into my old account. I have just over 1000 gamer score. Everything was how I left it apart my avatar is gone.

@GADG3Tx87 let me ask you a more serious question. Think outside of the box.

One company keeps every thing they publish, exclusive to themselves.

A second company enters market.

Second company's audience asks first company to make games non exclusive and bring them to second company's product too. Because you know, more sales!

But first company choses to keep it to themselves to have people buy their product.

2nd company has 2 options.

1) bring their published games to both platforms
Result : first company's base doesn't need a reason to ever consider second platform. Because their console plays every thing! It is superior.

2) release it only on their own eco system
Result: first company's fan base is all unhappy that second company's fan base are hypocrites. Why? Because they are now changing their tunes to somehow support only their product when ball is in their court.

But here is the issue with 2nd option. If first company never decided to play ball in first place, the only logical choice for 2nd company is to do exactly what first company is doing and become "anti-consumer" / "brand-quality". What really is the choice for 2nd company outside of these 2?

Just give first company's fan base every thing without receiving any good will in return?

That sounds stupid.

At the end of the day, only thing first company is forcing 2nd compan to do is to use the exact same strategy that first company is deploying.

Look at the poll above. It doesn't matter what Sony does...

1) increase prices on first party games
2) offer cost based models to provide "re masters" while in some cases, hiding them behind another games pay wall. (spider man)
3) lie about product exclusivity on 2 occasions at the very least so far (MM, HFW)
4) draught of communication, which somehow magically becomes "hype mechanism" for loyal base. I mean I don't know exactly what it is but some people seriously need a dose of reality check.
5) they got the darn digital model available to them too btw. It ain't just one company that has digital only options available. Should you buy it, you can't take the games to your "friends" any more.

I am absolutely certain that most people in here are what you call a vocal minority that has like 3090 x 2 sli running in their 6000 dollars water cooled machines.

But let's be real. Most of you do not. Pc has always been an option but most aren't able to afford high end PC's that can replicate new Gen consoles without investing at least a grand.

And dude. Don't feed me BS about how game pass is end of every thing and thst it is the only option available to gamers on Xbox. I will tell you up front that you are absolutely bonkers if you believe that nonsense you wrote above. Heck you got 2 people who probably never touched an Xbox with a 10 foot pole nodding in your direction like you are bringing some holy word down to them.

I got a ps4 pro and I have 2 Xbox. I "buy" games digitally because I don't return my games.

Game pass is a bloody good "option" and not "the only way" to acquire games to play on Xbox. Get that ***** straight.

It allows you to test games and see if they are worth buying down the road should you wish to. If you already know a game is gonna be good, go ahead. Buy them like you do on switch or ps.

Ain't no one stopping you.

But stop spreading false information.

Edit : every company exists to make profit when they are not listed as not for profit organization.

Ms buying any developers is a business decision that is probably in response to every one, along this websites population, "52 %" at the very least, that claims that they do not have any thing titles that attracts them towards Xbox.

It's business. They will do every thing they can to make their ***** successful if they wish to stay in business. No company wants a flop product. Either they drop the product or invest more. Microsoft just invested 7.5 billion more to make that point.

No they aren't anti consumer. They are simply doing what they can to make people want to come to their eco system.

So far, judging by how pissed people on this website are, I think they are doing a fantastic job. No one gets pissed over something they don't care about.

Chosing to spend on new brand of developers that people may not give 2 ***** about, VS a massive company that owns 8 developers that, whether good or bad, have a very reputable portfolio.

It's just good business.

@Princessmadllama
Apparently they were doing a purge of accounts that hadn’t been signed in. They’ve confirmed it, but say they warned everyone and all I had to do was log in online, I didn’t actually need to log in on an Xbox. It would have been nice of them to tell me beforehand.
Anyway, I’ve washed my hands of MS now, they had absolutely no reason to free up gamer tags.

Nope. Getting a PS5 only for the time being. Bye ZeniMax Media/ Bethesda. It was nice playing Tango Gameworks games(well we've got one more in Ghostwire Tokyo). Im happy with my PS4/Switch. I'll be happy with my PS5/Switch as long as Jim Ryan's administration don't F it up. Which his administration thus far has looked questionable in my eyes.

@Bubsbud you don't get it do you?

Ms doesn't care where you play, as long as it is pc or Xbox. You are still on their eco system.

It's really not that complex my dude.

@Col_McCafferty I do not care about you betting any thing.

Do you own stocks in Sony? Because you sound like you do at this point, or you are an absolutely dedicated marketing volunteer that Sony has aqauired without ever even looking at your resume.

For what ever reason, drop the fanboy act for a moment and be more reasonable. You have been spreading false information on the basis of claiming that game pass is not going to allow you to "share games" ever with your friend, when no one told you to own a game pass. You can have a disc version just fine. It's got a disc slot there in series x. Check the pictures. It's there. People used to to make assumptions around its size when console was not in hands of any reviewer back in the day.

You can out discs in just fine, then eject them and take em to your buddies...

@Saitama117 um... You do not have it right.

That is not how return on investments work.

They aren't trying to make entire value of their purchase back through revenue earnt by games developed by said purchase.

The value of of 2 kind.

1) value of the company and its assets, isn't dissapearing. It includes both the company and its talent. It goes on their BS, under assets. Btw, this may even include good will in acquisition price.
2) any revenue made by this acquired company now gets treated as revenue on their PnL statement.

Item #2 is being generated periodically and brings them profits if acquisition does well.

The value of #1 however is not dissapearing into thin air. That value may get depreciated over time for physical assets and any good will that needs to be impaired over time when it is warranted.

If Microsoft decides to sell the company they just acquired, they can! Maybe in next 2 months? 2 years? 2 decades? The new subsidiary of Microsoft is not melting away. It is there. Maybe value might be depreciates or may even go up. Depending on its performance!

The point is, if this division makes even 10% profit for Microsoft while it's net book value is still something they can sell if they wish to, they aren't really losing money...

Revenue is going to be just "icing" on that cake they just acquired.

@TrolleyProblems Mate, I think you might be on the wrong site!

😉

Of course people can still buy games on Xbox but it's clear that MS don't want you to or at least they want you to have Game Pass as well. So maybe you'll actually end up spending more money and it feels like you aren't.

Anyway, what people choose to spend on games is up to each individual. There's nothing wrong with pre-ordering every major release or looking for bargains. The key is you will own the games yourself. You don't through Game Pass or at least you do as long as your subscribe into it.

I'm wary of such a model and it's not as if it's great in other mediums. Sure Netflix do produce some good stuff but the majority of stuff on there isn't that good or its certainly not aimed at the likes of me. And if you're a film fan? Is Netflix enough? Hell no so you still need to spend money in other ways i.e. cinema, Blu-ray, digital purchases, other streaming sites.

Xbox fans are the ones making out you need for your gaming requirements is a subscription to Game Pass but that's simply not true. It's not the great deal some of you make it out to be, not if you're actually passionate about gaming and care what you play and when.

Anyway, each to their own I suppose.

@Col_McCafferty I think your comment (#48) may be the saddest comment I have read across all these sites. You wouldn’t buy the Zenimax games even if they DID come to PS5... just because Microsoft is the parent company? So even if you want to play it, and would be able to (for $70) you would skip it out of loyalty. Wow.

That is like Spiderman releasing on Xbox and no one buying it because of some ***** loyalty. Idiotic.

I doubt that. You would cave in and buy it 100%. And if you don’t then thats another product not sold on a Playstation.

Also saying gamepass being good value is “simply not true” is also not true. It depends on the person. Anyway I can see you are a blind sony fanboy, possibly to an extreme.

On launch day of Series X, I will play Gears Tactics on my gamepass sub, then switch to Yakuza 7, with maybe some AC valhalla thrown in. Choice is so good.

I find it funny when people said I don't buy PS5 because of the lack of communication. It just sounds like trolling for me. I mean What does Microsoft communicate more than Sony? Microsoft has a lot of money, it is all more amazing they have no new decent exclusive at all in the last 7 years at all. It is the same Forza, gears, halo. And some people including this site are too sensitive about RRP price change, it is only 10 more. But the retailers never sell at RRP price. If you buy digital you can share not just your library, but also the PS + sub with another people.

@K1LLEGAL I had a 360 last gen so I'm no Sony fanboy or at least I wasn't. It's the principle of the thing, I'd have more respect for MS if they invested in their own studios and made their own equivalents of God of War or Horizon Zero Dawn. If they were more competitive next gen through talent and creativity and hard work.

Buying all those properties is what a very rich company would do, because they can. They can't make their own quality titles so just buy them instead and then their fans hail it as some kind of masterstroke when all they've done is shown how deep their pockets are. It's capitalism at its worst and yes it is most definitely their long-term goal to end PlayStation or at least force Sony to be a software company only. Xbox aren't the good guys here, they really aren't.

But yeah, TES series is dead to me now and I won't be giving MS a single penny of my money. If Sony collapsed I would just give up on gaming full stop. I don't like Nintendo properties and PC gaming doesn't appeal as that's just a money pit.

Believe what you want mate and play what you want, doesn't bother me either way.

239Col_McCafferty2m ago
>@TrolleyProblems Mate, I think you might be on the wrong site!

Incorrect. I buy play station every generation. I come to this site to keep an eye on information on exclusive games I play.

You however might have mistaken this site for a platform that only fanboys can thrive on.

>Of course people can still buy games on Xbox but it's clear that MS don't want you to or at least they want you to have Game Pass as well. So maybe you'll actually end up spending more money and it feels like you aren't.

Sorry, what are your sources that suggest that Microsoft "clearly" do not want you to buy games on their platform? Every thing in that statement of yours is absolutely silly.

Microsoft would absolutely prefer for you to "pay" for game pass "and the game" if you can.

That's just better revenue mate.

Also, maybe you do not understand your finances well, but I am a certified public accountant. Trust me. I know my finances well.

No one is "making" me pay any thing. I "chose" to pay where I thought it was worth paying. I speak with my wallet.

The fact that games on game pass allow me the opportunity to test them before I make my decision to want to "buy" them, is entirely in my hands. I am not some naive individual who doesn't know crap about his money. And I am quite certain that majority of people who talk about "saving money monthly" can do the same thing. They are assessing their options and seeing what they can and can't afford.

Should not they not be able to afford to buy games, game pass makes it a heck of a sweet deal for them. If it didn't exist, they might try 10 games out of 100 it has available. Cost can be a bitch.

>Anyway, what people choose to spend on games is up to each individual. There's nothing wrong with pre-ordering every major release or looking for bargains. The key is you will own the games yourself. You don't through Game Pass or at least you do as long as your subscribe into it.

Again. You claim that you understand what game pass is and that people have the option to buy the games... And yet you still keep contradicting your self.

I can "buy" game if I want to. I can chose to not buy a game if I don't want to.

When I do want to buy it, I buy it. Because I want that game to be owned by me. When I chose to "lease" my game so I can enjoy it and be done with it, it is no different than you buying a game, and then trading it back to game stop for some credit to get something else, or new.

Again. You are not correct.

>I'm wary of such a model and it's not as if it's great in other mediums. Sure Netflix do produce some good stuff but the majority of stuff on there isn't that good or its certainly not aimed at the likes of me. And if you're a film fan? Is Netflix enough? Hell no so you still need to spend money in other ways i.e. cinema, Blu-ray, digital purchases, other streaming sites.

You are typing way too much nonsense here.

I don't care about what you do with your netflix.

You can live without Netflix just fine. You aren't saying that Netflix is a must either. So why do you keep suggesting that game pass is the only option when in your own explanation, when you clearly are explaining appropriately to me that netflix is not?

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>Xbox fans are the ones making out you need for your gaming requirements is a subscription to Game Pass but that's simply not true. It's not the great deal some of you make it out to be, not if you're actually passionate about gaming and care what you play and when.

It is actually an absolutely fantastic deal. You are right. It's not just a great deal.

Oh and buddy. Don't question my loyalty to gaming world. I have been a gamer for 30 years at the very least.

I have had over 10 k hours in guild wars 1. I have played wow for yesrs in top 25 clan in world.

I have played destiny 1 and 2 for over 4000 hours combined.

I have spent thousands of hours in division. Heck i am in top clan in the world on Xbox for division 2.

I min max builds. I educate people in raids. I spend 3 to 8 hours with newbies to help them figure mechanics and gear out. Why?

I really am very fudging passionate about gaming. I have countless hours in games.

You are making ps side sound like a righteous base when you are behaving like a self righteous person.

>Anyway, each to their own I suppose.

Get your facts checked mate.

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Edit.also sleep time for me. Night.

Bethesda will be a big deal, assuming their games are exclusive now, however the games themselves are so far off anyway it doesn't impact my decision...

@Col_McCafferty I am 100% understanding of someone having one console. Maybe its financial reasons, maybe time, maybe you want to just build on one ecosystem. That is all fine. But if the game is on your console, all you are doing is doing yourself a disservice. Life is short, and you wouldn’t play ES6 because.... man, up to you.

And no Microsoft are not the bad guys. If anything Sony are, but to be honest neither want to see the other go under. Thats dumb. Competition is a good thing. Thats what fanboys never seem to realise. They need each other! If Microsoft wasn’t in the game, Sony would just get worse and worse.

@Thesnipergecko
Would be even wackier when it was on a Xbox site.....

@K1LLEGAL It's my choice albeita reluctant one given how much I loved Skyrim on my 360.

Sony should ask one of their talented studios to make an Elder Scrolls rival, another to develop their own sci-fi epic. That would mean we all benefit.

Also, neither Starfield nor TES 6 are set to be released anytime soon. The former might be 2022 but right now we haven't seen a single second of it, TES 6 is even further away. Maybe by the time these are released I'll feel differently but right now I wouldn't buy either even if kind Uncle Phil were to make them available to us Sony fans.

Bethesda makes you sign in to their games and I dont want to register with them. That's why I dont buy their games.

It isn't exactly secret that Bethesda released terribly gimped versions of Skyrim, Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas on PS3 back in the day. I would be surprised if there is much of an Elder Scrolls following amongst the Playstation community. I've been a multiplatformer most of my life so unless Bethesda mess it up I will be buying a new Xbox when an Elder Scrolls VI or a Fallout does release. Probably the only reason I would want an Xbox right now.

All this does is tell me: "Yeah, you should upgrade your PC next year too".

Not in the slightest. I've never bought many of their games, so it's no loss to me. Besides, I buy PlayStation primarily for Sony's own games. Third-party titles are a bonus, but everything on Xbox will also be on PC, so I'm not going to miss out on anything.

Besides, who has ever based a hardware purchasing decision whether or not it plays Bugtester Notworks (sorry, I mean Bethesda Softworks) games?

if steam and valve decide to offer a similar package to game pass microsoft will be in serious trouble..sony at that point has to reconsider about porting first party games to pc..any move that devaluates ps5 is plain wrong now..

Like everyone else said PS5 + PC.

Even before this announcement I already planned on getting a Xbox series s alongside my ps5 pre order and I have successfully pre ordered both so no matter what happens I am set.

@Saitama117 - agreed. and i'm hearing bethesda will continue to publish their own games - so i imagine things will stay the same. i'm with you, though - if any bethesda games go exclusive, i just won't be buying them.

@TrolleyProblems no ***** sherlock. That is literally what I am saying. I've owned every xbox and now I will not. I'm not boycotting Microsoft, I just don't see a need for xbox to exist in my life.

@TrolleyProblems I get what you mean, and I understand that it becomes a part of their assets and whatnot. I'm not wrong though. They have to make back all that money that they spent before that investment turns a profit. Whether they sell part or all of it, or if it's through software sales.

@Bubsbud Your "I will never own an Xbox in my life" puts a completely negative spin on what you are saying.

I get your point now after your clarification.

@Saitama117 ? I honestly do not think that you get it.

You completely missed my point. I am telling you that they actually "DO NOT" have to make all the money back because it was never listed as an EXPENSE on their Financial statements.

It is still listed as an ASSET and not an Expense. Just like Cash is an asset... so is acquired "assets".

Their recent purchase is not going to be entirely written under their Cost of Goods Sold.

As long as their FUTURE costs for production and operations are offset by their Revenue, which also takes their Depreciation costs into account since it is listed as an Operating expense as well.

If their Depreciation for their acquired asset and cost of Goods produced and sold is off set by their Revenue, they are doing great!

Edit: The concept that you are talking about by the way is called "breaking even". Where what ever you spend, won't be recovered until you have made the cost back, and then the profit kicks in.

However when assets are involved, they aren't all amortized within first year against the revenue. They get stripped away over years, and decades in some cases, where cost trickles into their operating expenses over time.

In your scenario, if they took entire cost of acquisition, they would have auditors up their butts talking about trying to play on expenses because they are reporting a Lesser revenue for Xbox division (greater loss higher expense bringing revenue number down) than they would otherwise.

@Constable_What he isn't saying its a defence he is saying other developers are already exploring this option. Even Ubisoft are going to change it after their next batch of releases. Most people will pay it reluctantly. For the record this is nothing like punching old women in the face. The last increase was over a decade ago we had it coming.

@Constable_What wow what a nerve I must have poked for such a response! I know you shouldn't take them literally but it should also be relevant and in context which yours was not. Instead you resorted to an extreme analogy and it was poor.

How can this mean I am a sheep? Because I understand value? You seem like an angry person who has spat their dummy out because one person has their own opinion that doesn't align with your own. Your expectation is that something should get better but should cost the same.

What I perceive as value may be very different to your own perception.

I would like to hear your proposed solution for being able to play the games you want to play on day one without paying the full price ticket.

You also haven't explained anything to me other than the fact you don't want to pay for the increase in price of games. Thats fine and nobody will care if you don't buy them. Calling me a sheep or anything doesn't change the fact that they will be increasing and we will have to pay that price. You need to get a grip son and stop crying.

I was always getting a ps5, but now I will be getting an xbox series x so that I can get game pass for xbox and pc.

Exclusives are good and I'm glad xbox finally have some after trying to get rid of all exclusives last gen.