PS5 Consoles Are with Media and Influencers Right Now

I sincerely hope Push Square is considered relevant enough to receive one. Looking forward to your thoughts after going hands on

'Influencers' so-called; now there's a parasite of the 21st century that needs to suffer and fade away.

Use your own mind kids and don't be 'influenced' by those that steal a living.

I don't understand the influencer culture. I guess Sony must see a benefit to it? The demand just seems so high I don't really see the point.

In other news, I am still looking for a way to give Sony my money in exchange for one, and I am not at all bitter about it.

@get2sammyb Does that mean they sent you one?

@Cheski keep trying Game, even though it says out of stock. People are cancelling their orders and it's allowing a few people a day to order. Takes luck and patience but I got my bundle with Miles Morales that way, order gone right through (it seems). Good luck!

One to the folks at Digital Foundry please!

@Woogy I'm no fan of influencers and agree people need to think for themselves, but "steal a living" is a bit much. Some of them work incredibly hard to get to where they are.

If it turns out to be underwhelming, will they be allowed to say?

But I'm still getting one anyway

@SegaBlueSky I agree, some of them are very professional at the top level.

In the hands of Austin Evans or Linus is worth more than any TV ad campaign

Can't wait for the previews , also for the pre-order in my country

@Woogy Would you count pushsquare as influncers?Since we even have reviews here, that could as easily influence this so called 'kids',more than what ever a person like Linus,could do.

Does it grate with anyone else that these "influencers" get sent them for free, while some long-time fans can't buy the thing for love nor money?

@Marquez by which metric? by measuring thermals with a mobile phone or by testing a 120hz game with a tv that doesn't support that refresh rate?

@R1spam if only to stop them gushing over old games on the Xbox. They're getting a bit biased imo.

Influencers just have a large social media base and get their money by promoting ads and sucking the D by asking for subs, patreons, views on youtube, and pushing that god awful raid shadow legends on you. I dont see that as a real job. Throwing away a good education to start a internet meme? Like really?

Speaking of Influencers, I just read some story about streamers should be charged for the games they broadcast. I'm quite surprised because I thought they were paying all along, didn't think it was free. Then the games biz is a bit confused because the average Joe can't even post music on YouTube. Then it's us the publishers have to force microtransactions on after paying full price for games, how ridiculous.

@Dan_ozzzy189 yeah I love the idea of playing gta4 or portal with hdr at 60 fps, its great for video fame conservation but I'd rather have new games! Can't wait for them to get their hands on demon souls and ratchet and clank

@Medic_Alert I think their analysis of dirt 5 was a bit off, hopefully they will get a ps5 soon enough.

MJBHD: "I have been using my PS5 for the last 2 months"

Can’t believe PS5 is only a few weeks away. It’s really coming.

It's about time. 3 weeks until launch and we still haven't had a proper hands on.

Is it just me or does the box look smaller than expected in Jeff's post? Especially compared to how big the console looked in the official teardown!
He must have a huge set of double doors behind.

Edit: my comment's kinda pointless now that more twitter posts have been added to the article 😂

Not gonna lie, knowing that "influencers" get the PS5 for free while many of us won't be able to afford one anytime soon made me quite salty...

@wiiware Where are you from though

Digital Foundry better get one or Sony is worried.

@Snick27 Not really sure what you mean since DF getting one or not, giving glowing reviews or not, will not have any impact on the sold out launch pre-orders (or wave-2).

Which means that there is plenty of time for DF to get one on their own and still be able to influence the same people.

That being said, I would love to watch a DF video on the hardware, I just don't think it actually matters in the short term, and long term doesn't really matter if they get a pre-launch machine or not.

@Snick27 after their recent next-gen coverage, I sincerely hope they're forced to eat a substantial amount of crow once they get their PS5.

Come on, Digital Foundry!

@Snick27 I would not be suprised one bit if they don't get one.

@Cheski Fortnite shows the pro's im not a big fan but yeah understand the companies.

So ... not PushSquare?

@Clemerek How about the popstars getting free clothes and shoes, phones and all other free stuff thats a bigger issue for me.

@Medic_Alert
I dont know why people get offended with this 'bias' thing. It's a human trait. I've seen honest people , reporters, acknowledge they are biased but the difficulty is to try to ignore it.
Even John from DF admited he is a huge PS fan.

I look forward to seeing the previews, I managed to get a ps5 digital but whether or not I actually RECEIVE it on launch day is a completely different story. I will more than likely get the Series S first, but that's just a Games Pass console. My true 4k gaming will be on the ps5.

Looking forward to hearing what Bakalar thinks of it, he's always a delight on the beastcast😁

@Marquez Digital foundry? The same digital foundry that lives inside Microsoft's pocket? The same digital foundry that and gives a 300X zoom on PS4 pro games to compare with Xbox one X? you can only be kidding

@Flaming_Kaiser Sure, but maybe thats a conversation for a popstar site. The free PS5 comments are relevant here. I do agree with you, however.

Sony have left it late to get the console out

I would like to see someone confirm that the HDMI included is a 2.1 cable.

Could any of those tweets be any smugger?

Wait aren't these review units like what Xbox did? in other words they review it and then send it back. The comments here Make it seem like they all got free PS5s which they can then sell on ebay for 5 times the amount or throw them in the ocean if they choose to.

I'm excited, though seeing tweets like this just reminds me how fleeting the hype is. Not too long ago, people were getting all jealous like this when the first PS4 units were going out, and now it's a relatively mundane thing that you can buy (for reasonably cheap) whenever you want.

@Greenfisted There's no such thing as versioned HDMI cables. At all. There are cables that are certified for a version by putting it through tests and having specific minimal requirements to certify, but the cable isn't actually versions, and non-certified cables simply aren't certified. The HDMI version a cable supports is a function of bandwidth. That's down the gauge, shielding, and run distance. If it's a short enough cable in the box, it could be a cable made in 2008 and still carry HDMI 2.1 perfectly fine. It's when you start geting to 12, 15, 20+ foot runs you start running into more issues and cable spec starts mattering more.

@SwitchVogel Worse, looked down upon as outdated and irrelevant and "the past"! And we treat people like this now, too!

@L3GTRIGA South east asia country (Indonesia), only singapore has ps5 pre-order in SEA region.

@Medic_Alert
I just dont think it's a good idea to generalise. That goes both ways. DF is a channel and also from Eurogamer . They both made huge mistakes and I dare say misinformed the public . Now each article, video can possibly be biased one way or another . Some individuals are more likely to get carried away .
No you cant say DF is this or that, I think they are doing some great stuff, but the sum of the articles and videos from the next gen reveal are leaning towards one side.
Whatever the reason.

@Greenfisted
Does it really matter though. As I understand it, you only need 2.1 if you are looking to run 4K hdr and at 120hz. Very few, if any, games will be able to do that. Could be wrong though.

@Medic_Alert
No I dont mind positive xbox converage, that's fair (even though Alex infinity mess and other thing)
Tear down coverage was meh. Really skimmed through whereas there was a lot to go with.
One of the things I find fault with is the reporting from Cerny road to PS5 and the BC report from Eurogamer. They completely screwed it.

@deathaxe
They are desperate for money, to the extent they have aggravated the entire community with their advertising policy, and say it’s going to get worse (auto play advertising videos which follow you as you scroll the page).

@Medic_Alert
Also dont you ever wonder why they never showed the SeX SSD? All that had to say in PS5 tear down is the SSD is bad for replacing etc?

Edit
To be clear I'm not making assumptions
I'm a man of fact and just wonder..

@Medic_Alert
No I didnt find any picture of the X SSD.
As for the PS5 SSD I was very interested to find out what they thought but they didnt say much..
So what about 6SSD on the board (3 on each side)? Not interesting to talk about?
What about the SRAM we clearly see?
IDK man. They used to do close ups just to see little details like memory and such. The SSD is like the jewel of the PS5 right? It deserved a bit more like look closely on each side at least . Come on.

@JJ2 I'm not sure what they were going to comment on about either SSD that they didn't. They have an XSeX they aren't allowed to tear down yet, and they have only BC games to benchmark. They don't have (or haven't had) a PS5, and all they had to go on was the public information about the drive, and the public video footage of the chips soldered to the board. There really isn't anything to comment on about any of that for either console.

The SSDs (and specifically Sony's special SSD setup) will be all about benchmarks. And development support/features. And the proprietary schematics of course. There's nothing in the pictures of import. The circular layout is almost certainly just about thermal management relative to the fan/heatsink orientation and equidistant conductors. All SSDs are made up of multiple modules and multiple channels. Nothing about that is unique. It's the silicon of the controller itself that makes Sony's design unique, not the orientation of the NAND on the board.

I have loads of tissues at the ready. Excitement is building

@NEStalgia
Thanks for info. See I learned more about it from you in a minute than from DF.

Sony obviously want you to buy the controller charge station as they have done an Apple and not included a cable to charge it with a dual sense

Nice unboxing and look at the controller though

@Darrenb the usb-c cable is included in the ps5 box tho....

@Flex_huusko I know, but would be nice to get one with each one

@Medic_Alert
Thanks for the link.
The difference is actually interesting.

@NEStalgia That is a long winded comment full of misinformation. Directly from hdmi.org: HDMI 2.1 High Video Resolutions and Signaling Technology. Will 8K@60 or 4K@120 require a new cable? Yes, in order to ensure performance and compatibility the Ultra High Speed HDMI cable is required. I recommend you have a read. Anybody else looking to ensure they have the right cable to take advantage of the PS5 and your 4K@120 display, here is the site: https://www.hdmi.org/spec/hdmi2_1

@Darrenb yeah unfortunately :/ but it didn’t happen with dualshock 4 too so no point of sony to do the same with dualsense

@thefourfoldroot It matters to me and many others im sure. I do have a 4K@120 display and call of duty: black ops cold war runs at 4k@120 as well as a couple other titles. 2.1 is important to me at launch for these reasons.

@Greenfisted That's not entirely accurate, or is, at least partially inaccurate.

Read the wording "in order to ensure performance and compatibility Ultra High Speed HDMI cables are required. That doesn't say it won't function otherwise. It says it's to ensure it.

It's a little more complicated than that. The problem is there is no such thing as an Ultra High Speed HDMI cable right now. You can't buy one for any amount of money, anywhere, though you can buy quite a few that claim to be (and aren't), and you can buy many that sneakily say "Ultra HD High Speed HDMI" (Ultra HD High Speed - meaning not Ultra High Speed - meaning 4k High Speed......)

The standard for Cat3 UHS HDMI was just ratified a few months back, and it didn't even implement a standard. The certification specs were released shortly after, but it wasn't actually a functioning certification program, and it was not actually possible to certify a cable at all. There are a number of vendors that are basically "enrolled" as 2.1 participants to go through certification, but none of them have a fully certified product yet. Yet HDMI2.1 products exist and people are using the features supported - just not through certified cables and it's not guaranteed to work.

So what I can 100% guarantee you beyond all doubt, is that the PS5 does not include an HDMI 2.1 Ultra High Speed Certified Category 3 cable. Because no such thing actually exists yet from any manufacturer.

What it may include though is a cable that works perfectly fine with the PS5's HDMI 2.1 feature set. The full UHS Cat 3 certification testing includes 10k, 8k120, over the max cable length etc. All things using bandwidth beyond PS5's ability. Yes, to "ensure performance and compatibility" you need the new cable, which a certified version of doesn't actually exist. But to "make it work, YMMV", that's not a requirement.

Austin Evans and digital foundry are incredibly biased towards Microsoft

How lovely for them. I'll just carry on listening to actual gamers, thanks. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I wonder if Sony will send Colin Moriarty one? They should. He's got a bigger fan base than most of these "influences" and he's not a shill, I'd trust him to be honest about it. Unlike his old KF "friends".

@NEStalgia So can you tell me why the xbox series x specifies an “Ultra High Speed HDMI cable” is included with the console? I understand the certified 2.1 cables aren't available yet, but technically the PS5 isn't either. There’re said to be available in Q4 of 2020. Sounds like new console launches are right in line with that.

Sony gives these ***** get free ***** and they won't even let some of us pay for them. I don't think Sony needs to worry about spreading the word that the PS5 is even a thing, so why hype it up even more when you can't meet customer demand?

@Greenfisted That's a good question. And while I'm an Xbox fan, and I'm even more excited for XSeX than PS5 (getting both), i can't help but think that's a bit slimy (fire Greenberg?) The consoles are already boxed and shipped before any cable has been verified, so at best it's a "certification candidate" cable mass produced before certification is complete. If it fails certification, then that technically becomes false advertising if it didn't say that in the fine print.

Then again HDMI has been a total cluster from day 1. I'm not really surprised by anything involving it anymore....

@NickTheGeek that has to be, on the spectrum, of blackmail/extortion, right?
"Influencers": i have so many followers. Good or bad review from me will do either good/bad. Hook me up.

@Woogy jeez, what a load of crap. Influencers can be good bad or anything in between and so can their social media approach. I’m so sick of people who have a bug in their arse about social media influencers. It’s a job like anything else.

A little irritating as I can't even manage to get pre order. Been a devout fan since ps 1

@Arnna I feel like there's a degree of jealousy whenever people dump on influencers. One must remember that's a wide ranging term. There's influencers for everything and they're all different. This is just my personal opinion but; technically, people like MKBHD and Dave Lee are "influencers" but I'd much rather they be called "tech youtubers" or something similar. They're not biased, they have stated they don't like to accept sponsorships, rarely do adverts, and their videos are frequently informative. Channels like that clearly have a knowledge about what they're talking about and all they want to do is educate and inform others. Then there are influencers who know and do ***** all. They have a large following and don't really have to exhibit any real form of talent or knowledge, and just rake in sponsorship and advertising money due to their plentiful fanbase. Anything from dancing (although, there's a Tiktoker called Addison Rae - I've seen videos of her actually dancing, as in genuine classical dance, and she's very talented. Yet most, if not all of her tiktok videos are her doing stupid, rage inducing trend dances because that's what her audience wants. I don't have tiktok, it's not my scene. Plus, whenever I see a dance vid from there my mood drops dramatically), to "gamer youtubers" playing through something with little to no skill. It's impossible to sit through one of their videos due to erratic camera movement and them not being able to read any instructions or notice any pickups.

Am I jealous? Of course. I'd love to be able to do something like that and earn the amount they do. But I don't belittle them at every chance. They do what they do, and more power to them. I just choose not to pay attention or watch any of their content. Doesn't affect me either way. Focus on what can make your life better without the need to bring others down.

@Greenfisted The world isnt fair is the message. We throw so much food away in the world while poor kids and people starve thats the one that hurt the most. 😔

@Greenfisted @NEStalgia Hang on... I just bought a 2.1 HDMI cable... does that mean it's fake? :/

@Zuljaras The very fact that 'Influencers' exist only further proves that, as a species, the human race is definitely on a downwards trajectory.

Looks like some YouTuber accidentally revealed the NDA lift for the unboxing, which will be on the 27th of October.