Days Gone Is Trending on Twitter Because of Cyberpunk 2077

I don't know how good Cyberpunk is, but Days Gone is a very flawed open world game that falls into most of its genre repetition. It is a fun game but very unimpressive.

Agreed. It's a shame really but there's no denying that CD Projekt Red is now a company that everyone wants to be friends with. I'm sure they wouldn't be mad if you don't like their games, but oh well, where there's lots of money there's also power.
I have no doubt this game will be a tad bit overrated by many many people, but I'm still excited to play. I'm usually ok with bugs unless they break the game or stop me from playing, so I'll be fine.
Still, I think Days Gone is a solid game but it has a lot more issues than bugs only, maybe 8/10 was the fair score for them

Review scores are super subjective anyway. There's more hype for Cyberpunk than there ever was for Days Gone. I think that has to have some effect on the scores, at least at some outlets. Whether or not it's as big an effect as people want to make it out to be is debatable.

Definitely! Days gone was a Banger and deserves a better score. 8/10 for me easily.

I think the majority of Cyberpunk reviews make it clear that aside from the bugs, the game is supposed to be very, very good.

While I do think that some of the Days Gone reviews were a bit harsh, this is one of those arguments where people are trying to make a point without really taking context into account.

It's like saying Assassin's Creed Valhalla got slammed for bugs but The Witcher 3 didn't. Right, but the latter is one of the best RPGs ever made. Both games had bugs at launch but only one of them truly excels in different areas.

Not saying Days Gone is a bad game, but the discussion goes much deeper than just "both games buggy, buggy bad, only one game bad".

This is why you have to pull certain information from a review. I feel some reviewers come into a game with a certain amount of bias. For the record, I don't think they all do, and I'm not going to name any names and start a debate or argument. I'm commenting on this website which means I think they do a generally good, unbiased job on almost all games.

Just read it thoroughly. You can tell from language, tones etc.

I’d like to play game for myself to see the impact of these bugs etc but if I experience them frequent a long with crashes. I will be questioning everyone who gives the game full marks.

Is it also true that review were all pc only and could only share footage provided by CD Projekt Red ? I kept seeing people tweet it but no idea where it coming from.

I played Days Gone early on and then waited for updates to fix some issues I experienced and it’s great game now but I think the reviews are reasonable but maybe a little harsh on them.

Played days gone when it was on sale in spring. I could not put it down. I'm still running from hordes.

Yeah I don't get this either. The gaming industry gets hung up with scoring too much. It's like comparing The Avengers with Harry Potter. You can talk about the graphics and acting all you want but at the end of the day they target two very separate audiences.

I think there's a bit of karma going on. Too many critics rate games primarily according to it's hype machine, marketing budget, production values, and expectations. 95% of the time, Sony is the beneficiary of overly positive critical reception, and lack of possibly deserved scrutiny, due to this.

In this case days had the wrong mix of technical problems and not the full Sony marketing push and hype machine other titles receive, while cdpr has out-Sony'd Sony in marketing and hype.

I can understand it. Personally I think Days Gone is like a 6 at best but that’s down to personal opinion. While games don’t need to be absolutely new at every turn, relying on open world tropes established in games like Ultima and The Elder Scrolls 25-30 years ago will inevitably start to wear thin. I think the fact Ghost of Tsushima has already released has hurt it massively too, that’s a game which contains very similar open world tropes but done to a quality that many people can overlook it. It only amplifies the negative points of Cyberpunk when its contemporaries have raised their game this past year without months and months of crunch and terrible work conditions, yet also remain comparatively bug free and run well. There’s also the case that websites can’t not give Cyberpunk a good score as their clicks this summer have been primarily based around the slightest crumb and the hype train. At the end of the day, scores are arbitrary and mean different things to different reviewers. Read the content of the review, not the score.

@B-I-G-DEVIL It's true as far as we know. All review code was PC, and only official gameplay footage can be shown in video reviews until the 9th.

@ShogunRok Thank you I was hoping that wasn’t true. Slightly concerning but hopefully the console version run okay

@B-I-G-DEVIL We'll have a full preview on how Cyberpunk runs across PS5/PS4 as soon as we possibly can!

It could be the industry course correcting. If Days Gone was reviewed excessively tough for it's bugs then maybe everyone is updating their review process how we said we wanted them to. Unfortunately one game had to be the sacrificial lamb to get us to this point.

Well Days Gone had bad writing, story and horrid pacing as well. This seems like an apples to oranges comparison.

Days Gone was awesome. I imagine Cyberpunk will be too. I think the only review that matters is your own. And maybe ACG's.

Unfortunately Days Gone was panned for a lot more than just bugs. I absolutely loved the game but truthfully I can understand a lot of the criticism (and a lot I don’t-not going into it here). What I can’t seem to understand is why we are putting so much emphasis on other people’s opinions and not our own (and an arbitrary numbers system with no consistency). This has been a weird thing in games for quite some time now. I must be getting old...

Even if the completely unacceptable bugs and massive framerate dips weren't there day one, Days Gone still wouldn't have risen above mediocre in my eyes.

who the hell wants to spend hours and hours fixing a bike just so you can get around a map at a reasonable speed, this is the only thing that put me off playing it, still bought it though

I've not even played Days Gone yet! I have a serious backlog of games on PS4 (and now PS5). As a single guy with disposable income I buy a lot of games on release date and they then join the backlog - by the time I get round to them any quirks and bugs will be sorted out and I have a stress free playthrough...

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi Well it's a survival game and upgrading, fixing, and even getting fuel for your bike helps with the immersion. Especially in intense situations where you're about run out of gas and you have freakers, dogs, chasing you.

“What’s your stance on the discussions unfolding on social media about all this?”

Well your other editor felt the need to @ me in the Cyberpunk reviews discussion for having the audacity to suggest you guys should provide context in your articles.

So I guess my stance is that people should wait to play the game themselves because it’s harder to post an opinion anywhere these days without check mark treating you like an idiot 👍

The problem with days gone is the bugs, I heard the review copy of the games have way more bugs compared to the first release on psn, it’s sony fault for not delaying the game so it has better reviews. In the end, the game still sold wells, it’s number 1 on npd for a couple of weeks, and the word of mouth is good, so I hope bend can make better sequels with little to no bugs.

Btw, I love the 60 fps patch that some of sony devs released, ghost and days gone play great on higher fps. It’s making others sony devs kind of lazy though, I’m looking at you horizon zd, death stranding, and uncharted 4 devs lol.

From the reviews I have seen some literally mentioning game breaking bugs and glitches galore and this is all on high powered rigs not one showed gameplay due to CDPR embargo restrictions. Not one console review either is a massive Red flag and again no gameplay. Yh it has been treated more kindly due to there reputation and what reviewers clearly state as very buggy game but don't reflect it in the score. Days gone was buggy at launch and was marked down by many sites due to this. Gameplay is subjective and as none of us have played Cyberpunk yet we would have nothing to base our opinion on. I will say not every reviewer enjoyed the world some calling it lifeless and window dressing. Soon we can all come to our own conclusion.

@starbuck2212 Yep you can't go wrong with ACG he always tells you the Pros and Cons with no fluff.

@Max2574 Could you tell me what ACG stands for cause you left me kind of curious 😁

Bugs or no bugs, Days Gone is never a 9 out of 10 game. It has one of the blandest open worlds I've played and the camps are lifeless. The horde mechanic is fun and the series has potential though but the basic structure isn't great and you can see where the game was meant to have choices and they've just been ripped out

As for Cyberpunk, none of us have played it but from the sounds of it (and experience from athe Witcher), its story and side quests are of a much higher standard and it has deep rpg mechanics which would elevate it well above Days Gone.

We need to get over what scores are given to games, think about your favourite games, were they all 9's and 10's? Did there scores make any difference to how much you enjoyed a game? I know I've played plenty of games rated very highly that I thought were bloody awful and many need to understand that scores like a 7 means its a good game, just like Days Gone

Cdpr took a decade to make a game, 'crunched' employees yet the game is buggy 😑 for me it is not acceptable.I wanted the reviews to show that. So far no review convinced me to believe it to be as good as marketed.

Ignoring that Sammy once again passive-agressive finds a way to trample on Sony and their studios without a reason ( I mean, what the beep does Days Gone have to do with Cyberpunk ?!!)
and just makes an observation regarding Cyberpunk: My pre-order download just started when I booted up my PS5 and it's 102,447GB out of my PS5's 667GB !! Not cool...

@Juanalf Angry Centaur Gaming. I am sure you know of him though lol

131 developer for days gone.
And 1111 developer for cyperpunk. You can't compare.,

Days gone could of been worse, it could of been state of decay 2 😂

I actually really enjoyed days gone and was a blast killing hordes of zombies, though the story was predictable.

From what I've seen of cyberpunk so far it just looks like GTA with a cyberpunk themed skin

What I really get is reviewers cant stand criticism.
Yes it's only opinion. But yes, all opinions are questionable.
It's all about feeling and bugs at used as excuses or just ignored depending on the reviewer feeling for the game.
One person doesnt like a game (or group of people who maybe play too many games non stop for a living and maybe lose the appeal for sheer entertainment) and another person like a game.
Accept it. Most gamers like the game more than most reviewers. Maybe it's up to reviewers to analyse if it's an ideal situation and there maybe an issue with what reviews are for? Or who the reviews are for?
Now I always say nobody owns the truth. It simply is. Look at it or dont.
Also maybe it's time to realise scores suck. But I know it's hard to give up on it for the press.

Bugs in Cyberpunk are apparently verging away from simply immersion breaking and into game breaking territory.
Yet if publications want early review code sent then I’m sure they are obligated to treat the game as unfinished and not to let it impact scoring.
It’s not ideal, but also not ideal if no code was sent until after the game is released.

I just finished Days Gone yesterday and boy was it a slog. It was a stunning game to look at and it had some really fun moments but on the whole it was boring, formulaic and the narrative, though had potential was terrible. Skizzo is the worst character ever.

I don’t see why you can compare cyberpunk ratings to days gone at this stage just because of bugs. If cyberpunk’s narrative and story is good but albeit a bit buggy, I’d definitely give it a higher score than days gone, which I never want to play ever again.

For me it's the highly selective group of people who have received a review copy and that none are allowed to use their own footage in their reviews that is a bit suss. I think we're getting to the point where all reviews need to specify exactly what has been given to them by a publisher or developer in a run up to a game release, including dinners, accommodation, merchandise, etc. These scores have buttered up and mates rates written all over them.

Review scores don’t mean an awful lot to me but the content of a review does. Even if it is just opinion - enough people share the same opinion it makes it ever more likely that you’re going to share it too. So there is a benefit in having lots of reviews and sites like metacritic who compile those reviews.

However, I prefer to pick a reviewer that I like and dig into his or her coverage of the game. Tom Marks at IGN is my guy this time round - plenty of coverage out there from him, he did the review, the preview, has talked on multiple podcasts about it etc. He also shares the same sensibilities as me regards what makes a game good or bad and our opinions line up pretty much exactly with older games. So until he that day when we eventually have completely diverging opinion, I just go with whatever he says tbh. 🤷🏽‍♂️

the game reviewer is reweiwing their overall experience with the game, right? bugs and glitches etc are obviously a part of that but they are not the only factor in a game review

And of course whenever you don't agree with a review it is either because they have been paid off or not playing the game properly. 🤦‍♂️

@Ward_ting Slog is how I would categorise Days Gone too, I had times I've really ebjoyed playing it but ,I'm not sure how many hours in I am, but I wish I was at the end. I'm just tired of "Aw man I have to go to the other side of the map again" disguised as gameplay.

@ShogunRok
'It's like saying Assassin's Creed Valhalla got slammed for bugs but The Witcher 3 didn't. Right, but the latter is one of the best RPGs ever made.
Precisely. You are trying to make a point using an opinion (is one of the best RPGs ever made.) as a fact.
I know it's a very widely shared opinion (in the press at least) but an opinion all the same.
Best to base arguments on facts.
Question:
do many bugs at launch influence a review?
Fact:
Yes?
Question:
If a game has many bugs at launch does it deserve a perfect score?

Edit
I didnt like the combat at all in TW3.
Lost interest in it after a little while playing

@Robinsad I know the feeling too well! I was always wishing for the end. I had a moment where I was so sure I was quite far into the story and then I checked online to find out I was only just hitting the half way mark

Everyone is bagging about bugs but only few played pre-release code. Can we just wait for day one patch and then complain if stuff is still broken?! On the other hand massive open world games with no bugs at start? Show me one?

Also Days Gone could be trending as the lady who reviewed CP2077 voted it down for its trans representation also reviewed down Days Gone for a lack of BAME zombies, give me a break, journalism is down the crapper mostly these days.

a more apt comparison would be Mass Effect Andromeda

@Nepp67 no thanks, and it's really not a true survival game at all, it's very much just an action rpg

Days gone was broken at launch but a few patches later and its turned into a superb action role playing game and looking at other open world games there's nothing quite like it, the hordes make the game and playing on ps5 gives it a new lease of life a 1000 strong horde at 60fps....yes please.

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi It's very much a survival action game but whatever.

Trending on Twitter until the next trendy outrage. Can't wait.

Could you imagine of the darling game and studio of the fans was hammered by critics?
Yeah, I'd want to avoid that backlash too. How do the reviews read?
Forget the little number at the end of the review, how does it read?
Plenty of reviews I've read then saw the score and said to myself "that score does NOT reflect that review." By reading a few of the Cyberpunk reviews myself, none of them read like it's a 9 out of 10 game. They all read like it's good, but in no way lives up too the hype, over stuffed, lost in its own plot, and filled with bugs.

I don't get all this complaining over Days Gone, it is, by far, the best Sony first party game for me. I have finished the game this year, so most of the bugs were already patched. Bugs aside, Days Gone is a solid 50 hours campaing with a great story, a big world and good survival mechanics. Have to manage your motorcycle while riding around is a nice touch. Zombies system are also great, mostly with hordes. Hordes are hard to defeat and add a great felling of accomplishment when you do.

Ehh, there are certain companies that get a little bit of a pass due to the hype built by past great titles. Nintendo, Rockstar, Naughty Dog, Activision with COD get this treatment and now after The Witcher 3 CDPR may be getting a little bit.

I just could not enjoy Days Gone, the plot and characters were alright, but there was so much of that signature open world filler that I have seen about 500 times now and am completely burned out on combined with the gameplay of Days Gone being meh at best just didn't do the repetition any favors. Unlike something like say Horizon where the combat and story were so good I could put up with the duller moments. From what I hear Cyberpunk has a great story and solid gameplay that reminds me of the later Deus Ex games which I love so I am more than willing to put up with the odd bugs like I did with the Fallout games prior to the dumpster fire that was 76

The absolute abhorrent remarks being made towards Kallie Plagge at the moment makes me sad about the gaming community.

Too bad I find all first person games borefests

I did not buy Days Gone at launch I waited. When I did purchase it I thought it was worth a day one purchase. I literally felt bad I did not pay more to support this game. I loved the game the only thing I did not like is the amount of gas my bike used. As a person that rode motorcycles for many years it was crazy to need fuel so much. If we do get a Days Gone 2 I will buy it day one. That's how I feel regardless of any set number rating from anyone.

i really enjoy Days Gone. Whats cyberpunk doing that gta, restless dogs, etc etc etc havent already done????

@Juanalf Angry Centaur Gaming.

@Orochilocka Unfortunately thats not gaming, thats just people. We increasingly live in a world where people are told their opinions are valid, things are either amazing or terrible, and if you dont agree on something then youre the enemy.

I just had a quick skim and saw them criticising her for not know the intricacies of the game world she's playing, well maybe thats for the best as 90% of the people who buy this probably won't and if you need to know that to enjoy the game it becomes very niche.
I think numbers on the end of a review are pointless, read a review, see if it sounds like something you'll enjoy and make your own decision. Maybe the world would be better if we turned off comments.

@Jimmer-jammer The meaning of life is 42. The value of the game is Metacritic 67. Human nature in the post-internet age. Everything is distilled to a numeric rating and only the one with the highest number needs to exist.

Human value itself has merely been reduced to a numerically measurable set of test scores, earnings values, and data points. More and more we live in a world that everything, including people, is little more than an empirical set of measured data points, and only the highest numbers have value.

@Robinsad people are saying ‘she wasn’t the right reviewer for the game’, and ‘you should be more experienced.’ Condescending and borderline sexist. She’s been around for a long time and largely; I’ve agreed with 95 per cent of her reviews. Critics and reviewers can write about anything. Take me, a journalist in the sports industry, who has written reviews about games, and, even, a review about caravans, once upon a time. Oh and fishing, cars... the arguments are just birthed from naivety.

With day 1, week 1, month 1 patches being all too common these days i feel like realistic reviews need to happen no less than a month after release, if not 2 months.
Do i think developers should stop releasing unfinished games, yeah of course but lets face it, this is how things are now and i dont see that suddenly changing.
Having said that i believe Days Gone to EASILY be one of the best games released on the ps4!!....... After it was cleaned up and patched.

@NEStalgia An astute and well written piece, thank you.
It’s unfortunate people buy into and fuel this mentality. As living creatures, hierarchy is instinctual to us - boundaries that make sense of our surroundings and our place within them - survival. However, we have allowed selfishness and avarice to highjack the innocent need to categorize everything leading to different levels of class, crime, sin, social status - it’s endless.
Not to retread your points, but throw in the fact that the data collected over the web on everything we do is so financially valuable and quite the concoction has formed. I suppose people’s need to seek acceptance is in large part driven by insecurity and low self esteem and spills out in all aspects of life. So much of the internet, be it social media or advertising, seems to play off of the worst parts of our nature. So the cycle goes.
Honestly, my musings don’t really add much to your concise and effective assertation.

Respected video game people I've watched online mostly agree that Days Gone was judged too harshly. I don't know about the bugs but one reviewer, IGN or GameSpot, complained about not liking the main character which apparently affected their score.
Certainly there will be bugs at launch, games are massive now. But they usually are patched and if the bugs are not game breaking and widespread I think they should only marginally affect a review. How much do reviewers let technical bugs impact their review?

Download Days Gone as part of the Plus Collection and it's keeping me away from Valhalla at the moment as I'm enjoying my time with it immensely. I'm sure that the fact that it runs at 60fps and load times on PS5 are so much better than they were at launch are helping matters. The ability to fast travel in 10-14 seconds is also really neat! Much better than I thought it would be.

Cyberpunk will have to wait until it is a little more stable.

Bethesda and Ubisoft are just two of the many companies that released games full of bugs and don't pay the price in reviews' scores.

Reviews are incredibly bias is why, people need to stop pretending reviewers are any good at what they do, anyone can be a reviewer, it's just personal bias and opinions at play, not to.mention more then a little of just going with the crowd

@Nepp67 It's really not. It doesn't feature any kind of hunger, thirst or tiredness meters, the crafting is minimal and you never have to construct your own shelter. It's in no way what most people would consider a survival game.

@Subsided Good reviewers, in any medium, should be aware of their own bias and have a good grasp of the language - decent writing skills. I agree that we can all review stuff, but can we look past our own bias?

@carlos82 I think its not a bad thing too question some reviewscores. Im not saying someone is wrong too but if i see a 10/10 with bad controls i do question the score.

But more the way scores are given. You see it when someone says a 7/10 is a bad game.
I believe its harder for reviewers too give a big title a lower score if you only look at the what pressure some insane fans give them alone.

And if a game has massive bugs then yeah we should be able too say its dissapointing they didnt push it back even if its Rockstar, CDPR, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft or whatever big company.

@jorel262 Hé looked too much like standard biker i know that was a big joke.

@PossibLeigh Lol I guess survival horror games like RE, Silent Hill, Evil Within, Alien Isolation, or even Dead Island barely classify as "Survival" games cause they only have crafting in them?

@Flaming_Kaiser oh I agree, I do think there is a huge issue with review scores in general and their perception. Jeff Grub for example scored Cyberpunk 3 out of 5 and he said it was a good game, that converted to 6 out of 10 when reported here and somehow it looks worse and a few questioning review and that which gave it a 7. There was Jim Sterling giving Breath of The Wild a 7 a few years ago and he now doesn't even review games due to the response from Nintendo fans. Its almost as if games that aren't at least an 8 are simply dismissed by many online and in turn probably does pressure some outlets to review higher.

On this very site I said Ghost was a solid 7 and fun while it lasted and someone's reply was "taking a dump on ghost and Sucker Punch, you're a few sentences away from saying Sony should sell Sucker Punch to Microsoft 😐"

As for bugs yes we should always question them, we don't know how prevalent they'll be when we get our hands on this with its day 1 patch but I do know that its review scores will make little difference to my enjoyment. I've played the likes of RDR2, I loved the original but didn't like the sequel because the controls were awful, which weirdly were mentioned in a lot of reviews that gave it 10's, most seemed to love it regardless though.

@carlos82 Thats also my big issue with big Day one patches a game should be playable from the disc with some small things that can be patched afterwards not a 25/50GB or even bigger patch. The 1-10 scale isnt really working i think they should go for something else.

User reviews are mostly ridiculous giving the Last of us 2 a 1/10 im sorry even if you hate the story its never going too be a 1/10, HZD got a few of those on Metacritic that site is a joke if you look at user ratings. Or even better a lot of big titles.

My favorite is pushing the agenda i always thought we could handle different views but thats not true.

@Nepp67 You said it yourself mate. Survival HORROR. There's a difference between the two genres, survival and survival horror, and Days Gone doesn't fall into either genre category.

@Flaming_Kaiser I allways look at average user scores (5, 6 or 7 out of 10) because they tend to weigh in the pro's and the con's. a 10/10 or 1/10 is usually just something like "best/worst game ever" with no arguments given. Same goes for all reviews btw, airbnb, restaurants etc.

@PossibLeigh And there's also a difference between a survival game and trying to be a survival simulator which it is obvious that Days Gone isn't trying to be. I thought that would be obvious but I guess not.

@Nepp67 Dude, it's not a survival game and dubious ascertations about my intelligence don't change that. Days Gone has as much to do with survival as any action game.

Review love Ins are nothing new. Big hyped game from a in trend studio. The industry insiders big it up and lose all objectivity. Whilst EA and Ubisoft games are judged to a different standard and often times the game and large parts are ignore over business practises.

Ignore all scores now they are pointless. I read information from multiple sources. Watch videos to confirm said information and still many times reviewers are miles off and clueless. Even the comment in here from push square ones prove that.

If a game is buggy as hell it’s not a 91 no matter how much you can see if it worked the game would be good!

@Stocksy Gotta love people with a strong confirmation bias.

My preferred way to review would be to score each indidual area and the total from there; Graphics 10/10 story 5/10 bugs 2/10 etc

Any big PC like game will get top scores whatever they are like. It's always been like that. Same with xbox games that are just ok will get higher scores. Both games look worth a play tho(still not played Days Gone yet)

@Flurpsel Esspecially with consumers. 😉

I absolutely loved Days Gone and still cant understand the reviews, it even won the golden joy stick award for game of the year. I've played DG a few times through and will continue to do so when it calls to me as when i find a game i love i will play over again multiple times. Cyberpunk i'm hyped for but DG is one of my fave games as I loved the character of Deacon St John.
will see how Cyberpunk goes but def think DG needed more of a hype

@PossibLeigh And apparently it's still not obvious enough for you but alright.

@Nepp67 Idiot.

@PossibLeigh Pissy aren't you?

Haha, not at all! I've tried explaining to you rationally, only for you to insinuate that I'm stupid TWICE, so I thought I may as well start speaking in a language you understand. Not only is 'Days Gone' not a survival or a survival horror game, it's also not a very good game at all! Enjoyable, yes, but not good. Apart from the graphics and the HDR implementation (which is ace). But you don't want a discussion, you want an argument.

@Nepp67 So to settle this, I've made a forum post asking for others opinions. If the consensus agrees with you, then I will apologise and accept my defeat. If people agree with me, well I don't know, because I don't expect you to take it gracefully. Please feel free to visit the post (in the PS4 section) and lay out exactly why you think it's a survival game.

Days Gone is an absolute banger. I can't speak for the glitches as I am playing it today on a PS5 and it runs perfectly. What I can say is that the story, acting and game play is amazing and I cannot see why any of that was marked down.