Beloved Lovecraftian Lust from Beyond Toned Down for PS4

As far as I know none of the big 3 allow AO content. Not interested in the game, though if I was I'd prefer it not be censored.

@get2sammyb "Yeah, you’re already Googling the original, aren’t you?"
This man is a bonafide mind-reader!

AO games can have M editions while still keeping true to the developers vision but Dark Souls can't have an easy mode?🤔

@rjejr I’m pretty sure Souls fans would rather have tentacle porn than an easy mode.

@rjejr
Git gud.

@rjejr Dark Souls doesn't need an easy mode and I doubt From will ever add one.

@sketchturner yup, censored too.

So its lost its main selling point ,so now its just another bad first person horror ,with bad animation and ugly looking npcs

I wouldn’t say beloved, I tried playing the original. Boy was it boring as heck.

@rjejr dark souls does have an easy mode, it's called "watch someone else do it"

We definitely needed Sony to decide what would be too much for people who decided to pick up a horror game.

Lust for Darkness: Dawn Edition was big letdown for me. I'd rather play AO content, than this heavily censored hybrid. It only ruins fun.

...interresting is, Dante's Inferno lust level was normally released, and here they make obstructios...

The big 3 don't want straight porn on their platforms, seems reasonable to me. Also, the way they explained is great. It's for those who want lovecraftian, not explicit sex. It's provides a good choice if you ask me. Reminds of how Visual Novels often have two versions, though over there sex is often put for the sake sales in what's almost reverse-censorship. Enough that there's debate over which is the true intended versions that has the original vision.

Excuse my naivety, but what's an A&O game?

An*l & Or*l maybe?

@rjejr you can't even imagine it.

@blackndark I've seen hentai, now I can imagine anything.

@BloodEagle Pretty sure many people disagree.

@JechtUltima There's a new S storm every day, how would anyone notice the difference?

@Gamer83 I'd rather wutch pron

@danlk1ng So it's the same as porn?

@nessisonett Well who wouldn't?

Bit silly. It will still be a diluted version of the vision of the game, so why bother? Just play the original

I don’t care about this as these games were never allowed in their fully explicit glory on console.

I care more about Sony still banning and censoring games that were previously allowed on their systems, and are allowed under law, and are unmolested on Switch. This is the one thing I absolutely despise about them. Especially since it has now caused MS to do the same, and many devs and publishers to now self censor so they can be assured of a release.

It’s only balanced out by their admirable commitment to VR for me. If they didn’t have VR I’d have bought a series X instead of a PS5 for sure.

So are there things that I'm not capable of handling in a game? 18 rated game. I kinda expect adult content.

@thefourfoldroot How does MS factor in? They don't even get the games were censored.

@Jaz007
They’ve enacted the same policy as Sony. For example, with the Gal Gun port being cancelled after completion and just prior to release.

You know me so well... googles original

@rjejr I'm sure many more would agree that it doesn't. You can always find a different game to play or simply git gud.

I mean if it's stuff like straight up sex then I won't care much for it. Thing is I've never really understood why people even add in sex to games or films. Doesn't really add to the character's development or anything else.

@rjejr Souls games would also have MP issues on easy mode. It would be easier to grind or prep for PVP in easy mode I imagine. Co-op balancing would be weird too.

@Nepp67 The fact that you can find people on both sides of an argument doesn't mean there is only 1 side, it means there are 2 sides. Also, see below.

@bimboliquido Plenty of games in the world that aren't AO, this one is. If you don't like AO games go play another one, don't make this 1 M, it changes the game.

Thanks for making it easy for me to get my original point across which seemingly EVERYONE missed. I wasn't saying Souls games should get an easy mode, my point was you lose the argument of developer integrity if they are changing this AO game to M, yet they are, so it can be done.

@Jaz007 Well that's easy, no easy mode for multiplayer, single player only, done. Kind of how some of those FPS multiplayer games give away the single player for free, or don't have single player, and multiplayer is different. I don't think it's that hard.

@rjejr Never said there's only one side, I said your side is in the small minority while the majority agree that it doesn't need an easier difficulty.

They must've done the same for AO Tennis. No plod in that when i played it on PS4.

@rjejr A easy mode would not be to bad i just dont know how you will make it work online. The weapon/ armor drops but besides that why not.

@thefourfoldroot That was the remake on Xbox it was not being made for Playstation. It was Switch and Xbox and PC.

@Flaming_Kaiser
Yes, clearly I know that. If you read again, you will see I was referring to the sad state of affairs that MS are now doing the same as Sony (the publisher didn’t even bother attempting to release on PlayStation as Sony would simply now not allow it, despite past games being on PlayStation).

@Flaming_Kaiser I honestly wasn't thinking about online at all, and really I wasn't even saying that they had to have it. I was just point out that the argument of "game integrity" - this is the way we made it, this is the way it has to be - always seems to get tossed to the curb for censorship but not for any other options, such as an "easy" mode.

If you take all of the sex out of a game that seems to be about sex - I haven't played it - and it's still the same game, well why can't a game have the "difficult" taken out and still be the same game?

Oh well, comments were more interesting than E3 so far, hopefully that will change in about 38 minutes, time to go get ready.

@rjejr Sex has never been a friend to consoles it has always been a taboo its a pity. But some stuff is somewhat cringy like feeling up girls that look like 14 years old.

A Trish where i can see her ass i dont see a problem with that but it does not has to be the main selling point of a game.

Dead or Alive with jiggly physics is nice but its not the main reason i want to it.

On the difficult thing if you take out the diffulty out Demon Souls or Dark Souls it will make the game way less special for me i cant talk for others. Again its not my call its up to the developers what the want to put in the game. But the struggling and finally completing is a big plus for me.

Sex is nothing special but of you make a game with nothing else in it yeah then its nothing i would probably miss.

I had a discussion with a guy about a trailer that there was nothing changed and he yes there is and after watching the trailer 5 times i found out he was going mental over 1 second or less of panty shot. And i thought if thats the reason for not wanting to play a game you are one sad ####.

@thefourfoldroot But these games are nothing special lets be honest you dont play this for the fantastic gameplay.

@Flaming_Kaiser I'm ok w/ censorship, I'm also ok w/ easy mode, I'm all about the choices. Way I see it, more people who get to play the game the better. That's what it is, a game, it's not world history or election results, it's meant to be enjoyed.

@rjejr True but its not up to me. I say what i think about the game and ill stand by but you have a solid point there.

@rjejr
So you are OK with censorship, but also all about freedom of choice…I don’t think you’ve thought this one all the way through somehow, lol. It’s not like people have the choice on PlayStation to get the censored or uncensored version…Or a toggle in game to choose. Nobody would have a problem with that.

@Flaming_Kaiser
I really enjoyed Gal Gun Double Peace and got the Platinum. Gal Gun 2 wasn’t as good, so I only played it for a couple of hours. Both would have been worse without the fan service though. In short, nobody will play an awful game due to fan service because there is adult material everywhere, but a good game can be made better with fan service…

@thefourfoldroot Its up to a company "freedom of choice" with what they want to be asociated. If i see some of the games i understand why they think yeah lets not have that.

I believe with some things they have gone a little to far. But feeling up women that look like 14 years old and putting items between a woman boobs and rubbing yeah thats just creepy.

Fanservice can be fine but some stuff is nasty and weird and if the game is nothing but fanservice then thats not a loss for me if i cant play it anymore.

Again personal opinion.

@Flaming_Kaiser
“Fanservice can be fine but some stuff is nasty and weird […]
Again personal opinion.”

Agreed. Everyone agrees. But people have different ideas of what is or is not “nasty and weird”, so a person tolerant of others’ opinions would not support censorship.

But yes, a company will likely avoid being associated with things that have strong activist movements shouting very loudly against them, even when that shouting is clearly disproportionately loud relative to their size

@thefourfoldroot Feeling up characters that look like kids is not a thing in almost every normal group of people.

We call it Child abuse or molestation or rape. Tell whats the use of putting a item between a womans breast and and touching it to make another items FFS.

If you look at a game and thats your biggest sellingpoint then come on nobody is going to miss it.

Even Dead or Alive yes its sexual but thats a extra to the game its a great fighter with way to much monetization build on horny teenagers. If you have DLC thats more then a €1000 then its getting insane.

I think i dont agree this stuff is wrong and as females who are getting a voice now its totally understandable now.

@Flaming_Kaiser
What are you talking about? You seem to be imagining things that I’m not talking about.

I know there has been a grey area where Japanese anime type characters have childlike faces alongside clearly adult bodies, and canonical age, but that’s an exception that doesn’t warrant Sony’s current blanket censorship Puritanism.

People who decide to bring that edge case up whilst ignoring 99.9% of actual censorship tend to do so to close down argument by implying people are secret child molesters or something. It usually successfully shuts people up, but it’s designed to close down valid conversation.

The truth is, it has always been, should, and will always be, illegal for companies to release material you are implying would be released without Sony’s current censorship policy. This was therefore never a problem; it never existed on Sony or Nintendo or MS consoles, thus doesn’t explain said censorship policy.

I can show you dozens of examples of censorship in the last couple of years, none of which involves anyone looking like or being a child.

Yes, one involves a storyline in which something would be rubbed between a woman’s breasts. So what?

@thefourfoldroot These games dont even release on MS platform the Gal Gun was censored and the remake was even cancelled.

So what thats not up to me i think its a stupid mechanic and it shows your has nothing else to offer. Plus its not up to you what Sony offers on their platform.

If you make look like a kid it still wont be accepted by most of the people. And i agree some censoring is stupid. The Capcom one was a choice made by Capcom which they reversed.

But i have said what i want and its my personal opinion deal with it.

@Flaming_Kaiser
But you haven’t said what you want. You set up a straw man argument, that is all. You justified censorship by saying things which don’t exist should be censored. It makes no sense.

But if you are honestly under the mistaken impression that Sony, MS, and Nintendo have ever or would ever release images showing the sexual exploitation of children then I can understand why you might support censorship. Unfortunately it means you have been hoodwinked.