It doesn’t sound like there’s much to those PlayStation assets discovered within the Netflix app’s source code: the streaming giant has announced plans to offer smartphone games as part of its existing subscription. This content will be provided at no extra cost, as the company attempts to retain members. Having lost over 400,000 subscribers in the US and Canada during the previous quarter, some analysts believe that the service may have peaked.
Netflix, however, reckons that it can provide “more entertainment value through games”, and it sounds like it hopes to leverage its existing intellectual property to keep members engaged. “We know the fans of our stories want to go deep and engage further,” chief product officer Greg Peters told CNBC. “What’s great about interactive is you can provide universes that provide a significant amount of time where people can engage and explore.”
That word ‘engagement’ is key, as Netflix seeks to monopolise the time of its members and collect even more data on their habits. While it doesn’t expect games to drive subscribers in the short-term, it thinks the offering will support its established entertainment slate.
Sony, coincidentally, is plotting a big push into mobile, as it attempts to broaden the appeal of its own franchises. We suppose if there’s any potential link to PlayStation here, it could partner with Netflix to offer its smartphone games as part of the subscription. However, we’re more inclined to believe those aforementioned assets were left in the Netflix app by mistake.
[source cnbc.com]
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I was waiting on news about this.
50% of my games I get from my GameFly subscription. How I keep my cost down with AAAs I want on Day 1.
But do not care about Mobile games. So not what I was hoping for.
A better way to keep customers would be to stop increasing the price to pay for services people don’t want.
Mobile trash just as I expected
Not surprised about mobile games sadly. I see this as a desperate measure to try and win over lost customers in the long run. Netflix in my opinion is not the same as it once was and with all the quality options out there now, could be a slow burn of quality and even more customers ahead.
Can understand why their doing mobile first. It's cheap with high profits, as for Playstation, if any kind of partnership were to happen I'd imagine Sony would want to announce it in their own time. Though it makes speculate about if PS Now essentially moves over to Netflix.
I think I would be more likely to leave Netflix if I was given mobile garbage, the absolutely bottom of the barrel when it comes to games.
@Robinsad Totally agree with you. My first thought when I read this was: "At the brainstorm meeting on how to retain customers, did anyone raise their hand and suggest that they could stop raising their prices every 3 or 4 days?"
Are these mobile games that tie into and influence the tv show you're watching at the same time? Otherwise what's the point?
So someone In netflix said "you know what would bring us more subscribers...putting mobile games on big screens like Ouya did because it was a roaring success"
Netflix is absolute garbage, filled with b tier schlock, I sign up once every 4-6 months to watch anything decent for one month, they on average put out maybe one decent show I'm interested every month or two, this though will definitely appe to people that watch garbage shows on their phone and play candy crush every time they have a spare 20 minutes
@Thulsa It's not about "more", it's about keeping the ones they have. And not Ouya, Apple Arcade.
"Apple Arcade has finally matured into something close to a Netflix for mobile games."
https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/7/22370217/apple-arcade-fantasian-nba2k-wonderbox-classics-netflix
You may want to read that article as well, maybe give you a little more perspective on what I think NF is trying to do. Nobody wants to be the next Ouya, everybody wants to be the next Apple. @get2sammyb
@rjejr are we calling apple arcade a success yet? That article even doesn't call apple arcade a success, just that it's not as bad as it used to be.
We don't know yet whether they'll maintain the subscription numbers after the final part of Fantasian releases this year. As far as I'm aware, that's the only noteworthy game on the service and there haven't been any other killer games announced.
Can't afford any show past season 3 but got money to waste developing a trash mobile gaming division... awesome.
@Milktastrophe Well, not having failed yet certainly still puts it ahead of Ouya, don't ya think?
Apple Arcade is limited to only Apple devices, unlike Apple TV and Apple Music. So they may still be able to grow it if they open it up to Android and PC. But I feel like it is the model for Netflix.
So now we get to play mobile games based on the direct-to-video movies based on Sony console games all for one moderately not quite high price? Where do I sign?
@Robinsad Amen to that! I don't even subscribe to Netflix, but I chose Google TV vs PS Vue when it first came out (largely because Vue required a credit card instead of Pay Pal or prepaid, and having been compromised in the great PSN hack, aint no way Sony's getting a credit card ever again, that caused such misery I vowed I'd never buy a Playstation again. Until Matrick effed up Xbox and I preordered PS4 )
It was a great deal, like $35 for the basics of cable TV....cool, I don't watch much TV but it was nice to have. Now it's almost $70 a month on account of them adding Oprah's network and HGTV and all sorts of garbage IDGAF about, and now it's the same misery cable itself always was. The whole point was cheap access, then they just made it expensive to include everything including the kitchen sink, and it keeps getting worse!
@Agramonte Wait, aren't you part of the anti-Game Pass coalition? And you're already using the Game Pass that was Game Pass before there was Game Pass?
This move isn't targeting the hobbiyist/enthusiast market for games it's for the casual that don't play games on anything else. I don't even count them as 'games' as such. 'shrug'
SO...the 'Netflix of gaming' turns out to be mobile games? Microsoft should have aimed higher.
Least we can expect another Stranger things game.
I guess this is why we can download them to the TV.
Was nice though to see Sony fanboys flipflop from 'subscription services like gamepass are bad'...to getting giddy over rumours playstation being the actual 'netflix of gaming' by teaming up with Netflix and 'destroying gamepass'... Now we get to see them hate on subscription gaming services again... till news unavoidably cycles back to playstation games proper on Netflix...
Netflix was $7.92 when I first got it. It’s now $19.00. What’s changed enough in order for the price to nearly triple?
@AhmadSumadi use a VPN and sign up in a much cheaper country
no interest in Mobile games , id rather have a steam games Library access. mobile games 😂
@Bleachedsmiles you sure love to talk about fanboys in this site a lot.... are you sure you are not a fanboy as well? GamePass fanboy perhaps? Usually fanboys do not know they are fanboys until is too late... just saying.
@Bad-MuthaAdebisi I love a lot of their shows Castlevania, Seven Deadly Sins, Record of Ragnarok, Haunting of Hillhouse, The Witcher and they have a decent amount of movies.
@Martsmall But also a different set of movies and series then.
I find myself getting far better value out of a YouTube Premium account. More varied and interesting content.
@Flaming_Kaiser it's not,netflix goes on what country you are connected from so once signed up using VPN turn VPN off and watch the stuff that's allowed in your country.
@NEStalgia Anti-Game Pass?... Nooooooo, Not I!
I'll take cheap rental games from Microsoft just like I'll take free games from Epic. When Big Tech companies want to burn cash for market share - I am there.
I've only been subscribed a couple of years - has the service really gotten much worse? I do enjoy some of their originals, particularly Stranger Things. I have Amazon Prime but I did that for delivery - I've never really looked at what they offer for digital content. Heavily considering Disney+ at the moment as my boyfriend loves films and has seen most Disney films and all the Marvel ones, and we just moved in together. I have catching up to do.
@Agramonte Haha, I must have confused you with someone else in a past post.
@rpg2000 Yeah I'm a fanboy of Gamepass 3 months for £1...who wouldn't be a fan of that?
Of course that could be flipped that your go to response was I must be a Xbox fanboy or fanboy of Gamepass for seemingly taking delight in the flip flopping of opinion when it looks like playstation is in bed with Netflix... Which means maybe your a fa....oh...my...god!!
Let's be honest...Sony fanboys are irate these days. They've always been bad...and last gen adopted some of the worse of the Xbox community. Now though there's clearly something in the air...there's rarely a day that goes by that they're not being embarrassing. So I can acknowledge I talk about fanboys often here...because there's been so many examples over the last few months of their mental stability cracking.
What was it today? Psychonauts 2 being made to purposely run worse on ps5?
Last week I think I must have read least 3 comments here on how they're leaving this site cause they didn't like articles questioning Sony over cross-gen price differences... or whatever
They're so unstable it's actually a little worrying. But also they're fun to poke every now and then. That's not me being a fanboy for Xbox (I've no issue pulling things up on things I don't agree with - I've written in comments here I think gold is a joke, and I don't thing ANY OF THEM should be charging us for online paywalls when they're bringing the same games to PC without). And I don't defend the Nintendo tax. But least even the most die hard Xbox fanboy can laugh at themselves... Maybe that's on Sony. I mean what did Xbox do when everybody said the series X looked like a fridge?...they made a fridge. What did Sony do with an upside down PS5... They didn't run with the joke. And no Sony fanboy laughed about it.
See what tomorrow brings. Bound to be something. 🙃
@Bleachedsmiles Xbox fanboys flood this site i dont know why. Maybe because they have nothing better to do i guess.
@NEStalgia maybe the ones were I argue that just because MLB The Show is on GP it does not mean nobody is buying it on PS4. Or buy CrisTale on Switch. Sea of Thieves was #1 on Steam best seller till the other day. Not really anti GP, I just accept Not everyone wants to rent games. Just one more option.
@mrtennis1990 Hard pass, I will be ignoring the gaming section on my Netflix account then.
@oconnoclast @Bad-MuthaAdebisi Netflix still has alot of great content to watch. This is just what's coming out over the next few months...
July 2021:
Blood Red Sky (Live-Action Film) - July 23
Masters of the Universe: Revelation Part 1 (Animated Series) - July 23
Transformers: War For Cybertron Trilogy - Kingdom (Animated Series) - July 29
Centaurworld (Animated Series) - July 30
Outer Banks: Season 2 (Live-Action) - July 30
The Last Mercenary (Live-Action Film) - July 30
August 2021:
Vivo (Animated Film) - August 06
Monster Hunter: Legends of the Guild (Animated Film) - August 12
Beckett (Live-Action Film) - August 13
Fast & Furious: Spy Racers Season 5 (Animated) - August 13
Winx Club: Season 6 (Animated) - August 15
Sweet Girl (Live-Action Film) - August 20
The Loud House Movie (Animated Film) - August 20
The Witcher: Nightmare of the Wolf (Animated Film) - August 23
I Heart Arlo (Animated Series) - August 27
September 2021:
Q-Force (Animated Series) - September 02
Kate (Live-Action Film) - September 10
My Little Pony: A New Generation (Animated Film) - September 24
2021:
Red Notice (Live-Action Film) - November 12
The Witcher: Season 2 (Live-Action) - December 17
TBA 2021:
L.O.L. Surprise: The Movie (Live-Action/Animated) - October 2021
Locke & Key: Season 2 (Live-Action) - October 2021
Thomas & Friends: All Engines Go (Animated Series) - October 2021
A Tale Dark & Grimm (Animated Series) - Fall 2021
Another Life: Season 2 (Live-Action) - Fall 2021
Arcane (Animated Series) - Fall 2021
Army of Thieves (Live-Action Film) - Fall 2021
Cowboy Bebop (Live-Action Series) - Fall 2021
DeadEndia (Animated Series) - Fall 2021
Dogs in Space (Animated Series) - Fall 2021
Karma World (Animated Series) - Fall 2021
Maya and the Three (Miniseries) - Fall 2021
Shaun the Sheep: A Winter's Tale (Animated Film) - Holiday 2021
Ada Twist, Scientist (Animated Series)
Back to the Outback (Animated Film)
Big Mouth: Season 5 (Animated Series)
Chicken Run 2 (Animated Film)
Hilda the Movie (Animated Film)
My Little Pony: A New Generation (Animated Series)
Pinocchio (Animated Film, by Guillermo del Toro)
Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (Animated Film)
Robin Robin (Animated Film)
Sharkdog (Animated Series)
The Cuphead Show! (Animated Series)
The Harder They Fall (Live-Action Film)
Untitled Johnny Test interactive special (Animated)
Wendell and Wild (Animated Film)
@Agramonte Ironically I still have no idea at all what CrisTale is, but tried it today on xCloud .
Can't figure out who is buying SoT to make it #1 on Steam. I subscribe to GP and still can't figure out what's actually supposed to be fun about it. I WANT to like it, so much seems so cool. I'm curious about the Pirates of the Caribbean add on though. If it creates a proper game that could be cool. Cool to see Rare actually is popular, though.
@KidBoruto nice one for that. I might subscribe just for Big Mouth and Transformers. The rest of it isn't for me personally. They do seem to be putting a LOT of cartoons on there.
Netflix has some good stuff - but a lot of the big series are stuck because of the pandemic slowing the arrival of the next series - just feels like we're treading water, waiting.
The Witcher, Lucifer, Warrior Nun, Umbrella Academy and Stranger Things are all stuck. Even the 'another season is coming' messages have disappeared.
Been watching more on Disney+ recently but I can see me binning that long before Netflix. And don't get me started on Amazon (sub)Prime!
Wonder how the game situation will work? Will I have to have an app that launches the games or will it download it to my phone and check the status of my subscription every time I play? Bigger question though is will there be anything any good? Keep hoping for Clap Hanz Golf now new Sony have stuffed us...
Anyone who frequents the comment section here may remember God_Of_Nowt (a self confessed dev w/ Sony ties) discussing upcoming things this year that will blow us away.
Cant help but feel its a 'not yet' rather than a 'never' situation with Playstation and Netflix. We all know Sony like to do things at their own pace; so if they aint ready to announce they wont (similar to how Bluepoint isnt getting bought by Sony eh?)
@AdamNovice they use to have ps now integrated into Sony tvs but shut it down ,I personally thought it was great and would love them to resurrect it ,maybe netlfix is the way to go.
I was really hoping for something more substantial. Not because I would use it but because I wouldn't want to see GamePass get a monopoly on the whole 'Netflix if Gaming' thing. If it becomes too successful then I could potentially see that a service based future all around could happen, and I wouldn't want that.
Old fashioned as I may be I would like to keep the current system of buying physical copies of games I want to play, when I want to play them alive.
The reason GamePass and other services do not appeal to me is because they service holder will dictate what games appear on the service so I could wait a very long time for the games I want to play appear, and they can cycle them out when they choose even if I'm in the middle of a playthrough.
And yes, I understand that currently purchasing games is still an option but as time goes on and more people just prefer the cheap option just to play what they're given even that could potentially become a thing of the past.
Netflix is a prime example. They used to not only stream but provide physical rentals as well, that is no longer a thing so sometimes the film's you want to watch aren't there, forcing multiple different subscription services. It's why Blockbuster went the way of the Do-Do.
The future is scary.
@GADG3Tx87 You seriously don't need to worry about gamepass getting too popular that it's going to prevent certain games or remove other options for getting these games. The future probably is streaming options. The future is definitely digital. But in that future there's probably still going to be physical options for some games.
The argument of owning physical games hasn't been valid for quite some time really. Physical media is reliant on patches. Need to be online. The hardware it runs on.
And with the cost of producing, packaging, storing, shipping, these games...as well as an increasing culture of those that want things instant with minimal effort... Everything is pointing toward a digital focused future regardless of if streaming takes off or not.
I personally hope it does. Yes it's sometimes nice to have a box to look at and hold for my money. But streaming would eliminate the need to download. The wait for patches. The conversation of who's hardware allows two extra blades of grass.
It will open people up to a lot more different types of games. Netflix is crazy popular...what happened? We got Amazon, nowtv ect all wanting that pie...which breeds competition. Which lead to Netflix investing more in their own original stuff.
I imagine gaming streaming will be the same. Competition will always be there if there's money in it. Which is only ever good for us. We'll start seeing different types of games, risks being afforded. Let's say the rumour hideo kojimas next game is going to be cloud based is true...imagine if it's an episodic horror game. Imagine if it incorporates...I dunno, that days news headlines in it or something... Streaming can just open the door to things physical only limitations can't. So I don't think there's need to worry a streaming future will hurt anything. It's too dependent on global reliable internet at the moment anyway...so we're a ways off streaming being heavily adopted yet. Digital however has already over taken physical
@Johnnycide Netflix definitely has alot of exclusive animation/cartoons. One of the many reasons why I still use the service.
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