Rumour: Mocap for the Next Spider-Man Game Has Begun

If they started mo-cap, does anyone have a guess as to how far out the game would be from release?

@BoldAndBrash that's something similar to physics in movies. If everything is similar to real life there won't be any place for fun.

@FatalBubbles hmmmmmm good question. I have no knowledge how it works, but it would make sense to at least have the script ready and an idea of the big set pieces that they would want to film. And given the location is (presumably) still new york, they wouldn't need to start from scratch modelling that.

At the earliest, id expect this no sooner than autumn 2023 - but with a real chance of 2024, depending on any issues during development

@BoldAndBrash So you played these games and the description that came to mind was "stiff animations"? What a bold thing to say. And to say it in such a brash way, the nerve of some people..

@BoldAndBrash Real physics doesn't enhance the marketing in video format the way putting all that time and effort into even shinier graphics and animations does. And the CPUs on PS4/X1 are pure and utter garbage. They were pure and utter garbage back in 2014 when they launched. And the CPUs are needed for physics.

PS4 & X1 were just terrible consoles at launch. Both mfrs were too afraid to spend too much money with the new console right after the 2008 market crash, and Sony, after losing so much money on PS3 "did a Nintendo" and didn't want to risk too much. Neither company even wanted to release new consoles yet, PS3 was just getting into its groove and starting to not hemorrhage money and 360 was still performing great. They caved to publishers and retailers that wanted a new shiny to spur interest in their lagging sales, and devs that absolutely abhorred the PS3 in every possible way (which is probably part of what went wrong with X1 - MS wasn't ready to launch anything and only half-heartedly threw the X1 out there simply to not fall behind Sony more necessarily needing a new console.)

Either way we've had 7 years of consoles with a 2010 era phone/tablet CPU and real physics would be mostly impossible even if devs wanted to spend budget on it while also doing all the things that make the game sell well in marketing. It's why AI still feels like it's from 2005, too.

And, unfortunately, since pretty much every tentpole game is STILL targeting those consoles, and will still be targeting those consoles for a while, I wouldn't expect to see physics make a meaningful return until 2023-2025 (at earliest), if ever.

Sure, BotW does it on a meager mobile Switch, but they also didn't include half the rest of the game and only have like 4 enemy types. It's just physics on an empty map.

@Total_Weirdo 2023 sounds good to me. I loved the first game with Peter but after playing the Miles game I prefer Miles over Peter but will be happy with either.

They really don't sleep at Insomniac.

I’m hoping for full blown co-op but I think it would be cool to have a GTAV-esque on the fly character swapping mechanic.

didn't play Spider-Man M.M yet. but I assume that Spider-Man 2 will have both Peter and Miles be playable in certain missions (with Peter being the clear main character)...
any chance that Spider-Gwen gets involved (multiverse type ish or Spider Island type ish) or is that out of the question?

@FatalBubbles - I remember hearing back in December of 2020 that the game is in a playable state. However because of COVID they weren't able to start on Motion Capture, however I wouldn't say that this is a cause for concern. My guess is that they've already completed a good majority of the playable segments of the game, and are now moving onto Motion Capture & Voice Acting which normally occurs much early on in development.
That being said; the game is still likely a year away at the very least, it really depends on how they went about developing the game with the limitations that COVID imposed, and how they were able to work around it.

@JustPlainLoco I was guessing mid to late 2023. So if it’s next year sometime that would be a pleasant surprise.

@FatalBubbles we don't really know much atm , for all we know they could have been working on it for a while now , or just started. but if they are starting on this part it sounds like everything has been written out. we all know its coming out eventually though.

@FatalBubbles I mean my guess is that Mocap probably didn't restrict them from working on gameplay, level design, open world... Again, not an expert in the matter, but we've heard of mocap late in development. My guess is this game is 2023 (or late 2022), which means we COULD see a glimpse of it this year, but obv no guarantee. They did announce the first game at E3 2016 and release it Sept 2018. Not impossible to see it this year.

Edit: if Sony will actually have an event this year. Starting to get worried.

Wow, just begun ?!
You would think work on a sequel started long time ago, and dont count Miles Moralis as a sequel, its more of a glorified expansion, like infamous first light

Sounds like the sequel is far off

@BoldAndBrash Really i dont care one bit i love that over that top stuff but then again i have some much fun playing like Dynasty Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate. It may not look great but its fun and thats all i care about. If it looks decent and run good and its fun then im a happy camper.

@BoldAndBrash What Spiderman moves stiff? Stop smoking bad stuff mate.