The rumour that Rockstar is remastering the PlayStation 2’s trilogy of Grand Theft Auto games for PlayStation 5 and PS4 last week had a profound impact on me: I simply had to return to the fictional state of San Andreas. My history with the 2004 open world is both fortuitous and a little bit embarrassing actually: despite requesting a copy for my birthday and Christmas, my Mum refused to buy the game she’d read so much about in the tabloids. It wasn’t until a couple of years later that, in a bizarre twist of fate, I stumbled upon a discarded DVD by the side of the road. It was, by God’s grace, a copy of San Andreas – scratched and scathed, but just about playable.
While I don’t recall the campaign quite as vividly as discovering the disc, it certainly appealed to my “life sim” sensibilities. As a big fan of franchises like Shenmue, I’ve always appreciated that “slice of life” style gameplay, and while GTA: San Andreas is unsurprisingly raucous and depicts a lifestyle I couldn’t be further from, I enjoyed the role-playing elements like going to the gym and eating at fast food restaurants. While I’m hesitant to call it unprecedented – games like The Sims were also popular at the time – the idea of a sandbox where you could go anywhere and do anything was still relatively nascent in those times, and GTA: San Andreas still impresses to this very day.
I downloaded the PS2 Classics version to my PS5 last week just to feed my hype for the impending remasters. Aside from adding Trophies – and, in the case of GTA, removing some songs – these are effectively running on a PS2 emulator, so I was anticipating 480p graphics stretched to fit my widescreen television. There’s a distinctive look that all PS2 games possess these days: it’s grubby, hazy, and a little bit dull – but San Andreas somehow still impresses with its chunky animation cycles and attention to detail.
I was actually more worried about the gameplay than the graphics, but after playing a lot of GTA 5 recently, it’s amazing how well it holds up. Don’t get me wrong, the movement is twitchy and the camera has a tendency to go completely AWOL, but in terms of control scheme it’s virtually identical to its contemporary – in fact, the only major difference is the mapping of vehicle acceleration and braking to the face buttons, as obviously this defaults to the triggers on more modern incarnations of the DualShock controller.
The writing is fantastic overall: characters are, admittedly, caricatures – but they all have personality and there are plenty of laugh out loud gags. There are some scenes that I don’t think would work in a modern context – early on, there’s a mission where you chase down a flamboyant homosexual that I think shows the game’s age – but CJ is a protagonist you really feel like you can champion, and San Andreas feels like a living place where stories are overlapping and you’re just witnessing the highlights. This has always been one of the strengths of Rockstar: they build open worlds that not only look alive, but you always feel like you’re merely interrupting characters who are going about their business.
The gunplay is simplistic and cumbersome, but it’s not massively dissimilar to GTA 5 with its lock-on functionality – the only major difference is that free-aim is much more restricted, so you can’t go for headshots as easily. There’s also no traditional cover system in the game – that was introduced with GTA 4 – although you can crouch for an aim accuracy boost and to hide between walls. Missions are surprisingly bombastic, including one where you’re shooting out a gang atop a train.
It’s the variety that really astounds. In addition to all of the side-activities, like the aforementioned gym, you can also partake in burglaries and lowrider contests – it’s obscene how much is packed onto a single PS2 DVD. The checkpointing system is practically non-existent – you can skip journeys when retrying failed objectives, but you basically need to play them from scratch if you make a tiny error – and this is something I think Rockstar need to improve for the rumoured remasters. But while it doesn’t really respect your time, the plot beats are interesting enough to force you to push through.
I’m surprised by how well GTA: San Andreas holds up after all this time. It doesn’t look or play as good as GTA 5, of course, but many of the same systems exist here. Obviously the likes of GTA 3 and GTA: Vice City are in need of a bigger upgrade – they don’t even use the second analogue stick, after all – but visuals and some mission design quirks aside, GTA: San Andreas stacks up against modern open world games. It’s not without its quirks, of course, but part of that is what makes it such a landmark title – it’s over 15 years old and it still feels like it’s ahead of the curve in many regards.
What are your memories of GTA: San Andreas? Are you considering replaying this classic should the remasters turn out to be real? Follow the damn train in the comments section below.
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Yeah San Andreas still plays well and I liked the character customisation in this and going to the casino's. As for the other 2, I've been playing Vice City on PC with a mod to modernise the controls and it works rather well. I'm pretty confident that if Rockstar put in a bit of effort they could easily bring them up to something like modern standards
The PS2 classic on PS4 isn't great, at least the PAL version. Weird 50Hz frame pacing issues, sometimes I can see a 'grid' of sorts on the screen and there are sound glitches. Its also the only game on PS4 where I have had a problem running from an external hard drive and had to move it to internal storage. I have the PS3 version based I think on the mobile version, which ups the resolution and draw distance, but removes the distinct orange colour and worst still, all the transparent grass textures. I still think its a great game, though I prefer to play the original Xbox version on a 360 via BC.
Soapbox? Who's arguing that San Andreas hasn't held up???
@Ristar24 Hopefully the rumoured remasters will iron out all of these emulation-style issues, and tidy up the gameplay/difficulty spikes a bit.
I will always remember the part when CJ is abducted by Tenpenny and Pulaski and dropped off in the county of Whetstone at the foot of Mount Chiliad. The serene country life was a world apart from downtown Los Santos. Fond memories from a fantastic game.
@Ristar24 Yeah aside from the inclusion of trophies, the whole PS2 on PS4 program was pretty half baked, between the 50Hz problem on many games, to glitches, to the fact that it was basically abandoned after a year, with many games missing. I really hope for better on the PS5 gen.
@Orpheus79V It's a shame because it's hard to imagine there's not a huge audience for decently emulated PS2 games with Trophies. Alas...
@get2sammyb Hope so, the game is great and really deserves better than the PS4 version we have.
@Orpheus79V Yep, PS2 on PS4 was such a poor effort. As PS4 can't output 50Hz the PAL games were arguably worst presented than on PS3, as they were forced into 60Hz creating new frame pacing problems (just like the PlayStation Classic mini console).
San Andreas was one of the first games I was really hyped for the release.
I remember buying every magazine with it on the cover and reading every new little detail revealed in print. "You can make your character fat in this game? Wow."
I was only 15 at the time so my dad bought it for me too 😂. I think we got it from HMV. I remember the queue being full of people buying a copy
The combat has always been the biggest area Rockstar games could improve. It's kind of crazy that even RDR2 still relies on a light lock on system that started for them all the way back to their PS2 games. Everything else though is generally great for the most part with Rockstars games.
@Keyblade-Dan everyone who isn't blinded by nostalgia.
The ps2 classics versions of all the older games were seemingly based off the nasty mobile versions rather than the ps2 ones mores the pity.
Vice City/Vice City Stories are still my favourites for their classic soundtracks,but San Andreas obviously pushed the ps2 hardware to the full. 👍
In theory the hype was around recruiting up to 8 gang members to help you in turf wars in SA-in reality you couldn't start a fight unless you had a bit less than that & they'd get in your way!!😂
Utterly hated the Zero/RC missions! Whether defending the radio towers or running out of fuel with the RC planes!
Sadly unlike the pretty decent ps1 emulator on the ps3,the ps2 emulation on ps4 by Sony was lacklustre compared to unofficial efforts out there. So many great ps2,(& ps1),games that could be made available if only certain upper management didn't deem it "not worth the effort". Yet what do you expect if you only put in half hearted efforts in the first place?! 😔
San Andreas Stories never happening for PSP/Vita is one of the greatest disappointments in modern gaming history. LCS and VCS improved on III and Vice City, one can only wonder how fantastic a second take on classic San Andreas would have been.
GTA IV and V are good games in their own right, but I don't think they ever recaptured that magic, that thing, that the 3D era titles had.
The remasters are tempting but I would happily rebuy a ps2 and the three games. If I can find them at a good price it should cost around 40 pounds for console and games.
@TeapotBuddha Fair enough personally I disagree I replayed it a few weeks ago and I think it's still great of course it has some really annoying missions but I still think it's a masterpiece
Vice city and San Andreas are my favourite GTA games played the hell out of both of them. Did buy them on PS4 and played again although the controls did take a while to get used to again but still great games
Still the best GTA in my opinion and one of my favourite games. I have so many great memories with the game especially as it had co-op what meant me and my mate could play together. It has some of my favourite songs in White Wedding and A Horse With No Name.
All You Had To Do Was Follow The Dang Train.
'' and depicts a lifestyle I couldn’t be further from ''
Lol , push-square is based in the UK aint it ? That makes it even funnier.
But anyway , wheres midnight club
@Golem25 at least GTA4 had a really good story , cant say the same about 5 .
So you picked up a disc from the street and started playing that?
GTA and god of war is my 2 favorite franchise so its all good.the music.im a old school rap music fan and the music is excellent. Ryder is supposed to be easy e character.so the game is authentic and its funny also.the mission.gunplay .graphics stills hold ups.i believe gta remastered is coming i will be there to buy it. 👑 a legendary game.word up son
Yeah this one’s a great game. Dated, sure, but not as badly as 3 and Vice City. The little details still stand out to this day such as the dating requiring you to be fat or muscular etc and putting in the hours just like real life. I just wish the PS2 emulator was better on PS4. The PC version is wayyyy better especially since you can add the songs back in etc.
The turf war was my favourite and i never moved on until the map was all green! James Wood's Toreno was great as well. My favourite GTA by a mile.
San Andreas was the game I bought my PS2 for. I had played 3 and Vice City on PC but knew I wasn't going to be able to wait the 5-6 months for it to be ported. Luckily enough they released the slimline PS2 at the same time so I got a sleek unit at a reduced price.
I was only 15 but always looked older so didn't have any problems buying the game (not that my parents really cared). A few months later I happened to be in the Game downstairs in Churchill Square when another teen asked if I would buy it for him as he had been rejected already. I said sure but gave him a warning I was only 15 so might be rejected when he said he was 17. One successful GTA purchase later he had his copy. If you happen to be reading this random teen from the Brighton area hello! Hope you enjoyed the game.
Nahhhh. New games only man. No time for remasters and replays. In it’s day it was tha bomb for sure! And that soundtrack is seriously mint as, probably the best ever imo
Yeah im going to have to give a big ol side eye to the article saying the gameplay holds up lol. The gameplay def doesn’t hold up it’s extremely janky and crap just like it was at launch and if these remasters don’t update it in any way prepare to see a lot of people on social media lambasting it.
@kingbreww I’m all in on new games. I have the trilogy on my PS4.
The best parts of San Andreas was riding a bicycle, putting stats in, and the gang wars were fun.
You know...I bought 4 San AndreasS. 3 on the PS2, first one never returned from being lent out, 2nd was used and looked too scratched for my liking, then finally settled on the 3rd. The 4th is on my PS4, done, platinumed and dusted. The Truth was one heck of a character 😆😆. The part with Big Bear like " Yo CJ gimme 50bucks and I'm all yours baby, blast from the past!" and the room is total silence 😂😂😂 And of course Samuel L Jackson just nailed it with Tenpenny. What made it great was the popular voice actors too. San Andreas is timeless! @get2sammyb thought you might have been old enough in 2004...😆
@Halucigens my favourite part from it, expanding on what I said about the soundtrack was the whole feel of the game. Out of all the GTA games San Andreas was the most on point and the most entertaining if you allow a handicap for it’s age. Pound for pound no other GTA is even close
@nomither6 V's story is a lot more focused and streamlined than IV's with far better characters. IV had far too many story threads, most of which were done poorly and really annoying, forced characters
i would happily replay vice city with some new graphics , keep all the same music , story , characters.
I have faith that RockStar will put in the extra effort needed to make these shine.
I always really liked the more RPG elements of San Andreas. I liked going to the gym and getting ripped, or just eating loads of burgers and playing the game fat. All that stuff was cool and it was a real shame they never brought it back in future titles.
But other than that San Andreas was always a bit disappointing to me. Vice City ruined GTA for me because it was just everything I wanted - no other GTA has managed to appeal to me as much as that did at the time.
SA was a release day purchase for me. Right after work i hurried on down to my local Blockbuster. At home i was giddy as i removed the wrapping and put the disc in the tray of my PS2.
VC was a step up from GTA 3. San Andreas was a giant leap up from VC. Fond memories? Jet pack, basketball, riding bycycles, home burglaries, getting an Elvis haircut, the crazy car crashes on a particular hill in San Fierro, the Catalina missions, and the many hours of just messing around in free roam using the long list of codes. Peds riot and recruit anyone are fun codes to use.
The game was great but take off the rose tinted glasses. I tried playing it recently after digging out my PS2 to introduce my son to some classics and its aged poorly. I was actually shocked at how bad it played but by far the biggest problem for me was the story and how out of date, trope laden and basic it is. I kind of wish I'd left my memories of the game intact.
Was this one that sent new crews around the world crazy with its um hot coffee?
Rockstar did it better back in the ps2 era. Yea the games were rough and simplistic looking due to the hardware but I'd take more games over more hyper-realistic simulations any day. It's the stories, missions and scenarios that made GTA great. Like the article says, SA still plays great and much like V. Do we really need to wait years, even a decade for new content?
@Milktastrophe You probably play movie sims
The way Sony abandoned PS2 classics on PS4 so quickly, it further foreshadowed Sony's continued abandomnment of their roots.
Honestly, I don't care how well these end up, they've been wringing GTAV to death, and with certain people leaving and suddenly re-doing these it makes me think they're trying to get as much money as they can before they unleash a GTAVI that they already know will fall on its arse because of the current climate.
@ApostateMage yeah same here. The game really started to shine after that moment. The sense of freedom that gave me was insane. That moment was possibly only topped by leaving the vault in Fallout 3.
I have very fond memories of vice city as well, but SA takes the crown for me.
Had so much fun platinuming this recently!
@Akurusu I've played Erica, it was pretty terrible. Bad story and bad acting.
To be honest, of the PS2 trilogy, it's the only one that doesn't feel a bit painful to return to. Still holds up.
GTA 3, on the other hand... urgh.
San Andreas is R* game about Dr. Dre’s the Chronic ~ L.A. 92 riots. It is by far the best scene for this game. I would’ve liked a complete next gen remaster and the fact that it will run on switch is a little annoying but nevertheless it is a dream coming true for me
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