As we first reported last week, Polyphony Digital's next racing simulator Gran Turismo 7 will require a constant internet connection when playing the campaign mode. This means you won't be able to compete in races should the plug be pulled, and now the developer has explained why that is in a new interview with Eurogamer. It's essentially designed to prevent cheating and save data manipulation.
Series creator Kazunori Yamauchi told the site: "The requirement for the online connection isn't specific to the Cafe per se. It's just to prevent cheating overall from people trying to modify the save data, so that's the reason for the online connection." He continues: "The online connection is required for the campaign mode."
Yamauchi at least explains the arcade mode won't have the online requirement bolted on since it doesn't affect save data. So, if anything requires some sort of save functionality in Gran Turismo 7, you'll need to stay connected in order to access it. For those who missed it, the CaRPG will release for PlayStation 5 and PS4 on 4th March 2022.
[source eurogamer.net]
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Absolute farce. I bet it won’t be long until you’ll need a constant internet connection to make stupid ass comments on here, either.
I am always online anyway but it is a bit of a ***** for those who aren't, hopefully the arcade mode helps alleviate those fears for those with a dodgy connection.
Why are they so worried if you manipulate the save data?
My memories of GT1 on PS1 are getting a memory card cheat so I could unlock all the cars lol - I was young and impatient, admittedly I'd probably not bother now given most racing games give you a ton of cars anyway.
But seems odd - unless they're going to be using micro-transactions or challenges to get the best / rarest cars?
Diablo 3 had the same reason. I agree with it in principle - Diablo 2 online was riddled with cheaters and it totally devalued the entire experience. In PSO back on the Dreamcast, since you could modify characters then take them online, the game was full of people with hacked items that could instantly kill you (even though it was co-op) and even permanently set your HP to zero, effectively deleting your character.
However, they should just give you an option when you first play that says "Offline Mode: Warning, once you start in offline mode, that save file can never be used for online play. If you wish to play online with your cars, please select online mode."
Cheating in single player game is fine
Just separate the single player and multiplayer save and let us have offline single player like normal games.
@Widey85
Probably some game as a service elements such as the weekend cups mean they don’t want people to be able to cheat and just get the best cars tuned with the top parts.
Also, if I had spent years of my life on a game, I’d want people to play it properly or bugger off. But that’s just me. I’m a d*ck
What cheating are they speaking about here, singleplayer cheating?
I’ve never understood the obsession with preventing save data manipulation. Is it to stop people from selling completed game save files? And preventing people getting trophies they haven’t earned? How many people would actually do that? And does it really matter? How is that cheating any different to people paying to unlock content via the psn? Or maybe that’s the issue? Sony/Devs aren’t getting a slice of the pie and they don’t like it?
@thefourfoldroot Lol yeah I understand if it affects multiplayer, otherwise it's kinda "who cares" - and in some ways if you spend ages coding the best car in the game, isn't it better that more people get to experience it rather than most never unlocking it?
I think I just associate GT with being the earliest save game hack I ever used - had my PS1 before a PC (years later tweaking Championship Manager saves to make my local team not absolutely suck lol).
Didn't even realise you could do save game hacking on the later consoles so surprised they've even flagged this as a reason - I doubt I could be bothered these days, generally happy to grind racing games if the AI is good enough
Yeah, I call *****, this is mainly so they can keep a current flow of advertising and microtransactions in the game in my opinion. If it really was about cheating they would add an option to play a campaign completely offline.
He can say what he likes I'm just not going to buy it now. Still though as angry as I may be about this I hope those that are going to buy it enjoy it.
I'm honestly baffled by the need for an online connection for a Single Player game but whatever, there's nothing I can do except vote with my wallet and that's what I'm going to do.
Sounds like a load of nonsense.
Unless they change it before release I ain't buying.
@Widey85 Lool I must admit you made me laugh quite hard because I was like that too
@RubyCarbuncle lol as a kid you've all the time in the world to play games - but none of the patience.
For me anyway
All fine by me, been looking forward to it since 2020. I can't see the servers disappearing before I'm done with it and even if they did, can still play arcade mode. Each to their own.
@Widey85 Haha those were the days
Fine, no issue, nothing to see here... Can't wait! Day one purchase.
If you don't have internet, well, there's always Hot Wheels... People whinging for the sake of it... Meh.
Actually, my PS5 is always connected to the internet anyway...
I guess Yamauchi didn't grow up using the Game Genie.
Poor excuse , punish everyone that would like to play the game without an internet connection because of a minority of people who may cheat
What's the big deal about cheating in campaign if someone wants to have a little fun adding a few bits of currency to their game, you don't always have to take the game seriously. I guess though if it is linked to any online stuff then ok but then just add in if you choose to use cheats the user isn't allowed to upload anything to any servers this becomes disabled.
@Sebatrox can get Dirt 5 on EA Play atm if you get a month pass.
@Widey85 that's my thoughts they'll make unlocking cars a real grind to encourage people to buy them through micro transactions & they don't want people unlocking cars the easy way even if they have paid for the content
@Sebatrox you are welcome. Try Grid on there if you like the series if you haven't tried it. They also have Dirt 2.0 if you are into that to.
@Would_you_kindly
Yeah, they can kiss my b...
I uninstalled gts a long time ago, with its scummy hypocrite design, pushing you to buy all the most precious cars with real money or grind for months in end.
Plus a boring singleplayer as can be, boring ai, challenges, too smooth tracks, etc etc..
Plus can't save your singleplayer progress if not online..
I don't understand why there are so many people complaining about this,how many people who have a ps4 or ps5 dont have internet ???
So now it's illegal to cheat in single player campaigns? How does that effect anybody else?
@Would_you_kindly I think you're right - I didn't remember GT Sport having microtransactions.
Then I searched on Bing (default work one lol) for "GT Sport microtransactions" and the highlighted box is "developer confirms it won't have them" and the first organic result is "Microtransactions have arrived in GT Sport" lol.
Seems they brought them in 1 year after launch, so they got the good press (no MTX) before quietly adding them.
Makes me think definitely the "no cheating" thing isn't about multiplayer but about protecting their microtransactions...
@fatdragon
I have both a consoles and don't have an internet connection.
PS4savewizard, in a nutshell.
It's to stop people unlocking everything within days of a cheat file being distributed, then playing through the game in a manner which would normally require shed loads of grind, and then selling on the game, double-quick.
I have it myself, and once I have completed a game 'properly' once, I put the save file through savewizard and unlock everything so that I get to enjoy all weapons, vehicles etc that I missed through a legitimate playthrough.
Just ain't got the time a day to do it otherwise.
Though I must add I did bash the souls games this way. And thoroughly enjoyed the experience.
Die and die again, but not dozens of times matey. 🤣🤣
Ahh yes I'm sure it has nothing to do with trashy greedy monetization with microtransactions. Yeeeep nope siree Bob!
"cheating"
but aren't you shafting the fanbase with your microtransactions for the extortion cars you are gonna sell?
guess it doesn't apply to them 🙄🙄
@fR_eeBritney it's called double standards, it's like a abusive spouse that is jealous of everything you do but they want to abuse you instead...
Not even an offline mode? No buy
Also I don't understand the obsession some people have here with people complaining, there could be no comments on a article but someone will post "I bet someone somewhere will complain loLollol" 😑
the focus on bad press and news is second to none to this site..you could mention some really good news about YAmauchi interview like this: He also confirmed that dynamic time and weather is a simulation that takes place in real-time, so it's not just a simple weather change but will affect the game's physics:
"It does have an effect on the physics of the game. I think that will be very interesting. And also you can set multiples of the time that it takes from real time to 100 times accelerated, so you don't necessarily need to have a full on endurance race in order for the player to experience those weather changes and how it affects their cars in the track...
We do have a simulation of where the rain would create a level of water over the track. When a car passes over it, it will spray aside, and so the racing lines will dry quicker than the other parts of the track. That's something that is simulated and does affect the grip of the course accordingly as time goes on, and the track begins to dry in different places. The air temperature, the humidity, and then the road surface temperature will also be affected by these weather changes as well." but i guess good news doesn't click too much.
@OneManDroid Not really i just wont buy always online singleplayer games if Sony goes thar way i wont buy them.
I want options for the stuff i buy if not available then i will keep my money. I have had a issue where i could not go online for 6 months. But i could play my offline games.
And if even if can play online its nonsense to block a singleplayer with online DRM. But its also a easy killswitch for games.
@zebric21 I agree with you on the negative stuff but the always online in a singleplayer is a crime and total nonsense.
Would be interesting to have a vote on this. Simple question:
Do you intend to buy GT7?
A -> Yes
B -> Probably
C -> No, not my thing
D -> No, because Campaign mode needs an always-on internet connection.
Fortunately GT6 is still an amazing game that only requires me to connect to PSN to sync trophies. I'll stick with that.
I tried to use the Konami code in Contra the other day, but it didn’t accept it because I wasn’t connected to the information super highway
I like cheating tho Hmm, I still don't like this always online cr*p really :-/ SONY PLEASE don't put me off buying this game
Some folks in here are just happy to cut their nose off to spite their faces. I also bet 90% of folks grumbling have there console connected to the internet day in, day out.
Times change. Get over it.
yeah this is disappointing... it will be 2022 once this game launches.. constant internet connection and the comment by devs saying its for cheating is kinda weak. Its sad to say but Sony has been lying to us lately so when something like this gets explained in plain English, you just cant trust it anymore. weak
@Weebleman mateee, times change but not for so many people around the world.. struggle is real and since this is a PS4 game too, it needs to accommodate all its 120+mil or whatever
Seeing how GT Sport has 9 million players - a big part of the fan base are ok with needing an internet connection.
My Console and PC are online 24/7... this is not an issue for me.
It is 2021... even my lightbulbs are always online.
This is to justify people spending real money to upgrade the virtual cars they will use in the online mode.
Be ready to get beat by those rich kids! 😂
The last time I played GT was Gran Turismo 5 on my Ps3. I skip GT Sports because of Online requirements and I'm hoping I can play GT 7 offline. Sadly it's not gonna happen. All is not loss I enjoyed playing Driveclub on my Ps4 single-player campaign offline.
This makes no sense, if cheating doesn't affect anyone else than the person doing it... who cares?
Unless... they're going to be offering microtransactions/boosters that you can purchase to relieve grinding in-game for the campaign. In essence: paid cheating. And therefore they don't want anyone to be able to do any unpaid cheating.
@Carl-G I'm thr same boat, it's libiral and against the system at how bad the gaming industry is!
"As we first reported last week" ???
It was in black and white in the press release lol.
Sounds like an excuse.
@Widey85 well the last two games have used microtransactions to "reduce the grind" so this was pretty much expected anyway and is 100% the reason for this.
Not good enough. That’s no reason to put a restriction like that. Especially if SP and MP are separate. If people want to cheat the SP by themselves l, let them. It’s just affecting them.
Pfff what a load of pants! Even if that were true, who cares if you cheat in single player? Let's be honest here. The real reason is because this way you can extract data on players and see what to offer them in the microtransaction store which you know is gonna be in there.
@wiiware Agreed.
Pathetic, no longer a buy.
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