Things may be getting hotter in the boardrooms following Microsoft’s near-$70 billion buyout of Activision Blizzard, but it’s the PlayStation 5 that will keep cash registers alight this year. That’s according to Ampere research director Piers Harding-Rolls, who believes that Sony will sell 18 million new-gen consoles this year to Xbox’s nine million.
While it hasn’t always felt like it on social media of late, it’s worth remembering that the PS5 is handily outselling its closest competitor globally – although stock shortages for both brands have failed to give us a full picture of demand. Harding-Rolls concludes that the new systems will ultimately be bettered by the Nintendo Switch, which has become something of a juggernaut since its launch.
“It looks like the availability of PS5 and Xbox consoles is going to improve slowly over the year, and our expectation is that Sony will outsell Microsoft two-to-one,” he said. “But actually the biggest selling console in the market is going to be Nintendo Switch at 21 million units, and that will be driven by demand for the new Nintendo Switch OLED.”
Despite the global pandemic and ongoing semiconductor shortage around the world, Sony actually managed to sell-in 10 million PS5s a month faster than the PS4. It’s aiming to ship 22.6 million consoles throughout its fiscal year starting April 2022, and insists it’s secured the required inventory to achieve that. Meanwhile, it will make a further one million PS4 consoles this calendar year, too.
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I mean I don't doubt it. It really comes down to stock. Sony's lineup this year is full of bangers while Microsoft has nothing other than Starfield right now. Redfall maybe but we've yet to see a single thing from a game that is apparently coming this summer.
Doesn’t surprise me at all. Sony is doing great for a reason because of quality games. Exciting times ahead!
This is stating the obvious we all know the ps5 is the more desire product.I got family members right now who really want a ps5 who bought a series s until they can their hands on one.
Credit is given where credit is due: Sony has the branding despite the terrible way it's handling this generation. It can do no wrong to many, many people.
Even among casuals who only the play the annual sports title/COD every year go with PlayStation just because of branding (which really make up the majority of console sales).
I have said this before: I know a few people who fall into the annual sports/COD camp (where it doesn't matter which console they own) and it they don't care that there is a cheaper Series S model or that they can save money with Game Pass Ultimate, they only want the latest PlayStation for no other reason other than they just "like the PlayStation".
When I press them on what they like about PlayStation, I usually just get, "I've always played on PlayStation".
Anyways, kudos to Sony for solidifying that idea in the minds of many gamers. It's quite the accomplishment - which wouldn't have even been possible without a quality product.
Well I know I for one can sleep soundly tonight knowing Sony is making money. Phew!
‘the PS5 is handily outselling its closest competitor globally’
Facts
A few supposedly serious gaming sites news have been spreading the fake narrative that they are very close.
Honestly, it will take a long time before casuals even notice that COD may go exclusive to Xbox.
Im being serious, there will be many that buy a PS5 and have no idea what’s going on in the industry.
I play with a large group of friends on PSN, and NONE, NONE, of them even know what Dying Light, Sifu, Horizon Forbidden West and Elden Ring even are.
It really shocks me that many gamers know so little about game news.
I don't think MS are that bothered about it. I don't think they seriously set out to sell more consoles than PS, especially on the back of the lacklustre Xbox One and the anaemic selection of 1st party games during its generation. MS didn't even expect to sell more Series X than Series S when they were launched, their focus is 100% on GP, which is why they've prioritised upscaled backward compatibility and marketed it aggressively to make sure we think it's what we've always wanted from a new console generation. Never have I entered a new generation where my chief source of excitement is to play old games, even if they are boosted.
MS selling fewer consoles than PS won't concern them as long as GP subs are growing. And as long as MS continue to artificially keep the sub price cheap and allow the loopholes that enable 3 years of GPU for peanuts subscriptions will keep growing at a healthy rate.
They've sold so many people on it being fantastic value that it long ago reached the point where it's too big to fail, and now with MS not being content on buying studios but buying entire industry-leading publishers, a section of gamers are going to believe GP is the best thing ever, which for my money is contentious.
It's ironic as I was going to buy an X after Christmas to play Starfield even though MS buying Bethesda annoyed me, but in buying Activision I've totally been put off Xbox as a gaming platform. That 70 billion pounds, imagine the new IP and/or innovations that could've funded. Imagine what could've been made by MS's 1st party studios with that money but instead they chose to dilute the market for all gamers. It's not a strategy I want to support so I think I'll get a Switch instead, even though I'm wary that Nintendo still hasn't sorted out the joy-con drift!
@Medic_Alert Yes, in my next life I become an ‚analyst‘.
This year... sure. Next year...? We'll see when all these Microsoft buy outs start taking affect.
In 2023 when Activision becomes part of MS and Bethesda starts getting into full gear, I think things will change. People start seeing the games they’re used to buying in the past and now are not available on PS5, they’ll start looking at Xbox.
Not saying PlayStation won’t still have great exclusives but some well established IPs only on Xbox will cause change.
I think PlayStation and Xbox will be neck and neck in terms of console sales by the end of the generation.
@OmegaStriver but even though, is CoD still so important? Ok, yes it is for a large amount t of average gamers. Nevertheless it’s the same year for year again. The CoD hype is over.
I would care the most about Diablo 4 when it would come exclusively on Xbox, everything else?
The last Activision games that I bought were Diablo 3 and CoD WW2, first one on discount, second one used over eBay.
It’s all fine but Sony needs to do something. I’m sure they have something in the pipeline.
PS5 will have Abandoned after all.
@awp69 but what kind of games do you expect? Blizzard and Bethesda are not the same anymore. Do you really thrilled for their upcoming games when you think about Fallout 76, CoD and world of Warcraft?
Don’t get me wrong these are great devs but it’s not the end of the PlayStation world just because of this acquisition.
@Milktastrophe hahahahahaha yes of course ahahahaha
@Reeneman It’s not the end of the PlayStation world but if you seriously don’t think the Activision acquisition isn’t going to make a difference, I’d like to know what drugs you are on. We’ll see how Phil’s statement about CoD turns out. But CoD was the BEST selling game on PlayStation last year. You may think it’s not what it used to be but it’s still a best selling game.
@OmegaStriver
Absolutely. A good friend of mine has no clue either haha
What’s funny is PS marketing for COD might still go on for a while.
The sales momentum of the Switch is insane. If Nintendo draws out this generation with a more powerful model, we could be looking at a console that outsells the legendary PS2 and Nintendo DS line.
Even if it doesn't, though, it'll be close. Switch has probably already outsold the Wii, and 21 mil units would put them at 120+ mil consoles worldwide by 2023.
By the time a successor fully eclipses the Switch (if they don't drag out the generation, that is), it'll probably be sitting at 140+ mil units worldwide.
Which is even more impressive considering it's JUST a game console. Nothing else. The PS2 was awesome, but it benefitted massively from its ability to play DVDs at the time.
Anyway, all of this kinda sounds on the money for me. Sony is still going strong based on their sweeping momentum with PS4, and while I do think GP and these acquisitions will eventually lead to Microsoft taking the lead from Sony, it'll take a good long while for that to bear fruit.
@awp69 that’s true but this doesn’t say anything about quality. Even FIFA is a top selling game year for year, but who really cares about this as a gamer with experience?
The acquisition will definitely make a difference and strengthens the position of the Xbox but I don’t really see that the Xbox system is a must buy now. If you mostly play CoD then yes, but there is a lot more to play on a console or PC.
@Ralizah I believe Switch has overtake the Wii. It will be targeting PS1, Gameboy and PS4 soon
@NinjaSixx gamers have a delusional soft spot & unreasonable bias for nintendo . the switch had over a 3 year head start and is a severely underpowered and glorified ipad that’s underwhelming as a console , with less features than the wii , and rehashes stuck in the 90s .
i really don’t get the excessive hype it gets . how many mario spin-offs and zelda reskins can one take .
I think at this point it’s expected to sell well. Even take out the fact that Microsoft bought Bethesda and now Activision. Xbox has been really aggressive so far this gen but I don’t see these moves tipping the scales in it’s favor. If one of these moves involved a high profile Japanese studio like a tri-Ace or a Platinum Games acquisition, then I’d be a little more concerned because then I would say that Xbox is targeting its most weakest territory. And since Sony has the Japan market along with Nintendo, I don’t see Xbox overtaking it anytime soon.
People go where there is variety and originality.
I didn’t see anything from these buyouts that suggest Microsoft is going for anything other than more shooters and western rpgs.
@Reeneman COD’s pretty important to Sonys incoming profits. COD sells highest on PlayStations and Sony gets a cut from EVERY single purchase on the PlayStation store including MTX purchases. So, if a ton of people leave the PS store, it will definitely have a negative effect but I believe it will be a long time before casuals notice.
There will be a ton PS5s sold, the casual person will one day head to Walmart looking for the new COD and then, they will learn the truth. It’s going to be a while though. Microsoft can’t advertise this stuff on tv commercials because it would have a negative impact to the current contracts Sony has and I imagine there would be legal repercussions. So, many casuals are going to miss this entire situation.
@JJ2 Oh, the advertising will definitely continue. At least for this year and maybe going into 2026 if it’s true that Sony has an existing contract through 2025. It’s going to be a long time before this may have a negative effect on Sony. Those stocks will jump back and there will be a ton of PS5s sold in that time and Sony will have their future plans already taking place. This is not the death of Sony that many fear monger.
@Integrity I mainly use my switch pro controller as I play most games docked. The pro controller basically does not get drift. Highly recommended. I’ve gamed on switch for 5 years and no drift whatsoever.
PlayStation have been kicking micro you soft ass since 2001😂.microsoft want to buy all the major third parties companies.but guess what PlayStation is still gonna dominate again.word up son
Without a chip shortage, would it be 3 to 1?
PS5 digital and Series S is a great budget combo to get everything, I know several people that went this route that previously were PS only gamers.
@playstation1995 I see it that way, too.
Of course it hurts a bit, but it could be worse than that. There are so many independent dev studios with great games out there, if it’s only CoD and some old Blizzard legacy titles that have to leave the PlayStation… it’s not the end of the world.
Horizon, the insomniac games, something like ghost of Tsushima, housemarque … all of them are way better than CoD.
MS has a heavy pressure now to get a return for their invest of 70 billion. Game pass can not be so cheap anymore…
But of course, it’s also pressure on Sony, they have to step up their lineup as well now. 1 1/2 years for a VRR update can not be the regular case in the future for example.
@NinjaSixx most likely more than half of Nintendo's user base are children and there's also more females playing Nintendo consoles than playstation. You won't go to work and find the lads talking about the switch and pokemon
Honest question, I have never played the Switch because when I see it advertised it looks like it target market is kids (7-14 years old) and that gameplay immaturity just doesn't appeal to me.
So question, is the Switch as good for the older generation gamers like myself or do the high sales represent my thoughts that mommy and daddy want to appease the kids at Christmas or birthday with a shiny new toy?
Well I’m the UK it seems at times at lot closer that 2:1.
A very rough guide if you go on certain stores internet and look how many reviews from a buyer each console has for example PS5 combined 2600 reviews. Xbox series s/x combined 2000 reviews.
A few other sites have similar ratio.
So yes definitely PS5 ahead going on that and I’m not surprised. But not this 2:1 ratio else it would be something like 2600 PS5 to 1300 Xbox.
So a bit closer in sales than this 2:1 ratio.
Obviously only a guide going on buyer reviews, but the pattern of reviews seems similar on 3 reliable sites I looked at, so I bet it is not far out.
Microsoft’s threat to Sony isn’t exactly the Xbox Series X/S.
The source is putting bets on 2 to 1. Says xbox has only sold 8 mil yet we know its more then 12 to 13 mil since last week. Either the analyst doesnt know maths or is just plain ignorant.
@AgentGuapo its a good point, thanks, but if I buy it it will be to use as a handheld .
@Gh05tm4ch1n3
Just all rubbish, going on buyer review numbers on certain sites in the UK it’s a lot closer.
PS5 yes more but not near 2:1 ratio.
Example for one store, 2600 PS5 combined to 2000 Xbox series combined, buyer review numbers.
I bet that is far better analysis then these pricks in offices making guesses.
@Gh05tm4ch1n3 you've misread the article. It says Xbox will sell 8 million this year, not that it has sold 8 million in total so far. I agree with you though that I think the analyst will be wrong that PS will outsell them 2 to 1 this year. Notice he says this year, not lifetime.
@Integrity you wanted to buy a series x but ms buying Activision has put you off? That's some serious ***** talking right there
@Deljo really? So am I supposed to think as you do or am I not allowed to have my own thought on what I want and why?
And why do you choose to communicate in such a rude fashion?
Am I the only one suspicious about the timing of this ? Sounds alot like pr bs.
Sounds exactly like the Titanic is the biggest and best ship built right after launch
@Integrity because your comment makes no sense. You were set to buy a console but the idea that the console will have more games than you originally thought you've decided no, that's not for me. Now either your talking ***** or your taking some nonsical high ground about something that doesn't concern you. Sorry if you think I'm being rude but that's how I see it
@UltimateOtaku91 umm... Why aren't boys allowed to like pokemon??
@Milktastrophe I meant that separate from the female sentence. I just meant it as not many adults play Nintendo switch compared to the amount of children. Like I said at work out of 19 staff members I'm the only one with a switch and play pokemon, everyone else talks about fifa and playstation etc
After the initial release of the Switch OLED in UK there are now plenty sitting on shop selfs not shifting and even a couple of good bundles.
What I see and look at and the things I use to judge sales, which seem pretty good to me, are only a little similar to these analysts and even some chart sales.
All seems is a bit of making money for them and getting website hits to make money and drive them or their companies reputation.
@Emperor_Rusty nintendo switch is for more relaxed games and nestalgia, a lot of exclusives may look childish but that's just down to the art/graphic style. Animal crossing is a perfect example it looks childish but it's sold near to 35 million copies and not a lot of children that game, so goes for games like monster hunter rise which has sold 8 million copies once again its cartoonish but not a child's game.
Where as playstation and xbox focus or more realistic looking games.
Don't get me wrong though way more children play the switch than playstation, due to games like pokemon, Minecraft on the go, mario kart and fortnite. Though I suppose once they turn to a teen they want a playstation/xbox
@Deljo if that's how you see it that's not a problem, I don't see why you had to put it so rudely. I'm happy to have a conversation with someone who doesn't agree with me and clarify my rationale.
As I said previously, I don't like MS's business model of having a subscription model over developing their own high quality IP like Sony does as well as investing and funding innovation such as VR.
But I was considering buying a Series X and then they bought Bethesda which annoyed me because I'm a huge sci-fi fan and wanted to play Starfield. But as much as that annoyed me I was prepared to get an X to play it.
The Acti buy-out has changed my opinion of MS and their Disneyfication of acquiring entire publishers, not just studios further fracturing the availability of long-established 3rd party franchises, instead of investing in the 1st party studios they already own and giving them the finances to create new games.
I don't like they way they're approaching the industry and the way they've spent 70 billion to aquire rather than create is what has ultimately made MS not attractive to me and I'd rather not support it.
I was already not that enamoured with their whole approach to this gen and their focus on back-compat rather than new Series X IP but I was prepared to some day get an X as it is a great machine. I've changed my mind as MS has lost its appeal to me. It's not about how many games MS has. I was going to buy an X for just 1 game, Starfield. PS has far more games that I would want to play than MS ever will because MS doesn't invest in original IP.
As for me taking the high ground over something that doesn't concern me, well it does concern me because those are my principals. And who am I affecting other than myself so why can't I hold that opinion and make that choice? I'm not telling you I'm right for choosing this anymore than I'm saying you should follow suit. So why say I'm talking ***** for being true to myself? That's unfair no?
I think it’s bold to assume the trend will continue at 100% after this week’s once in a generation news. Either way, I have all three systems and could care less. Bring me the games.
@Deljo People can see ***** when they see it. If all was fair, Xbox would also look more appealing to me, but as it stands it's basically a good console with a monstrosity of a company dealing with it.
@anoyonmus PS4 will be topped in the next half-year, probably. With a strong holiday season, GB will be topped by 2023.
@Martsmall Yes because little Microsoft can't handle pr from another company...sorry Xbox bought 2 major companies and gatekeeps a third company from putting their content on a possible playstation equivelant and you still think the 'conspiracy' is stacked against you. Lord above
@Integrity Exactly. Microsoft would basically kill what you love to win you not having any choices anymore. It's reprehensible, and it certainly doesn't court affection, trust and fairness.
@KayOL77 stacked against me ? Did I say anything of the kind ? I dont care either way who buys what companies it's business. It's just this timing just after Xbox beat Sony in Christmas sales , this didn't come.out before the acti buyout just after
PlayStation will outsell Xbox anyway when it comes to consoles. Xbox want to have Xbox on as many systems as possible and accessible in as many ways as possible. I think all will be well. It’s time to just take a breath.
@Emperor_Rusty
It’s a great gaming platform. I have a Switch and a PS5. They both compliment each other in terms of how you use them (you can pull the Switch out of its dock and play portably, great for gaming sessions while laying in bed) and also the games on offer.
I’m currently cracked out on Shin Megami Tensei V. And it’s an experience you’ll only get on Switch.
If you decide to pick one up, Breath of the Wild should be your first game. It’s amazing.
@KayOL77 but really why care?? We're just gamers and unless your a kid or have a fanboy mentality I'm guessing you just buy the games you like on whatever system they're on.
Let's hope so. Sony is going to need any edge they can get because it won't be too long until Microsoft is cranking out big exclusives constantly.
@Integrity I was perhaps a little aggressive sounding (I'm N.Irish so it comes naturally) but I really didn't mean to offend. I just don't understand why we, as gamers, need to get involved in the politics. I'm probably in the older crowd on here (45) but change has happened over the years with major shifts in power not uncommon, even Sony were looked upon sceptically after the debacle with ninendo but the ps1 was amazing. My point is, we don't really need to know much more than whens the next game coming out that we want to play.
@UltimateOtaku91 you're wrong about the ages of switch players. Stats show that only 14% of switch owners are under 19 years old. Most gamers across all consoles are millennials.
@UltimateOtaku91 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.shacknews.com/article/127542/nintendo-discloses-switch-age-demographic-data-for-first-time%3famphtml=1
@Reeneman. I agree.i believe sony will buy more studios.ember lab. Is next.and more studios to come.word up son
@Deljo I think his/her name explains the reasoning 😉
@RBRTMNZ when was that article published though, would be interesting to see ee the same but for playstation
@GamingFan4Lyf
"When I press them on what they like about PlayStation, I usually just get, "I've always played on PlayStation".
I can give you the answer to that. I don't know why the people you met found it difficult to answer. The thing I like about Playstation is their focus on high-quality single-player exclusive games like Uncharted, TLoU, Gran Turismo, Horizon, Ratchet & Clank, etc. as well as third-party Japanese games, especially JRPGs. Xbox and Nintendo miss several JRPGs/Japanese games that are available on Playstation such as Persona 5, FF7 Remake, Forspoken, and previously, the Yakuza series. It lineup of games is more diverse than both Nintendo and Xbox. On the Xbox, I only see shooters and racers releasing all the time with very few story-driven single-player games. You see it is not about the brand but the games they offer in addition to the third-party games available everywhere.
It will outsell it every year.
Like I tell everyone who ask what to buy. Either a PC or PS5 first (depending on their budget)
Xbox or Switch are 2nd consoles for one reason or another.
@Deljo no problem.
I'm 48 so there! 😊
As a gamer since the 70s, perhaps like you, I've grown up as gaming as an industry has grown up. I've lived through all its stages and experienced every change in dynamics, every power shift, all the jumps in technogy and attempts at innovation. I'm not getting involved in the politics, I'm a dyed-in-the-wool, lifelong fan of gaming and I know what I like, the kind of direction I want gaming to go in and how I want the industry to service gamers.
For me MS is demonstrating a way of delivering gaming that puts me off. I will always prefer the traditional console generational experience than gaming via subscription. I will always prefer 1st party games that have been developed in-house rather than acquired via purchasing entire 3rd party portfolios. I'd rather a console manufacturer purchase an independant studio they've had long-standing close ties with than purchase entire publishers that are major players within the industry.
MS are moving further and further away from what I like. I don't own every platform because I don't like all their models. I don't play on Stadia because I don't want to play games streaming and only own them digitally. I don't play on PC because I don't like how there are so many cheats playing MP games spoiling them. I don't play on Apple because, well it's Apple.
I've owned Xboxes. The first one was great. The 360 made online excellent. But since the Xbox One MS made it clear to me they weren't in the industry for the gaming but to try to lock us into their infrastructure encompassing all our media not just games. The lack of IP all generation was really disappointing and so when the came out with Series X and still failed to create new IP to show off the X but instead promoted old games I again was left unimpressed. And now they're buying up the market using money from the parent company instead of giving it to their 1st party studios (MS' games division couldnt afford the Activision acquisition). If they were a Premier League team they'd be getting looked at for breaching financial fair play rules for spending beyond their means.
So where i once would've bought an Xbox now I'd rather not. You may think its pointless but there are gamers who decide whether or not they want a platform depending on things other than what games are on it. On a smaller scale its why I don't buy FIFA becasue of its horrible lootboxes, I don't play full price games with F2P mechanics like StarWars BF and I don't play grinds like Destiny where content gets removed.
@UltimateOtaku91 thank you for taking the time and effort to reply. Yes I think you nailed it for me, the games look very cartoony and I like more of the realistic feel. I am interested, what is it that made you buy (I assume you bought) a Switch?
I honestly don’t see PS outselling XBX|S 2 to 1.
It will definitely outsell, but 2 to 1 was last gens ratio, with Xbox doing a terrible job. There is no way they will keep the same ratio with the current Xbox momentum.
@TheRedComet cheers for the reply, I admit that I have my prejudge thoughts on the Switch before even picking one up (to be fair, I think a number of players do, as this article above shows, and various fanboy comments on multiple website), however I would be willing to give it go to see to see for myself. I think nowadays we are all spoilt for choice, when going up all I had was a Nintendo with a dodgy cartridge, with a 500 in 1 games. The cartridge was always dodgy and had find ways to hold it in position to get it to work and the 500 games had the same game over and over with slight variations, there was no way to save progress which meant getting past your previous high score or level completion was an all night slog but know what, I loved it
@Tharsman the article is talking about this year not lifetime sales.
As should be expected!!!! 2022 going to be the year of PlayStation… Horizon Forbidden West, God of War Ragnorok, and Gran Turismo!!! Need I say more!!! Long live King Sony and the Global Playstation empire !!!!
@Emperor_Rusty I bought the Nintendo switch as it offers a completey different range of games you can't find on playstation/xbox, I do like my god of war and horizon zero dawn games but sometimes i like to play a game that's more relaxing like zelda or mario, plus there's more couch co op games I can play with family and my partner like mario party/mario kart etc
And probably the most important thing for me is that's it can be played handheld which, playing game smoke witcher 3, skyrim, borderlands and bioshock handheld is something I thought I'd never be able to do
@TheRedComet how is SMT V? I've recently completed SMT 3 HD and on various occasions I wanted to quit lol way harder than the persona series.
Was thinking of picking this SMT V next but heard it has some performance issues? Or I might go for SMT IV on the 3ds
@OneWingedAngel These exact reasons are why I stick with PlayStation as a brand, not only do they have first party games that appeal to me but also a load of third party Japanese games that are usually exclusive or come to the system first. I just feel at home on PlayStation with all of these, Xbox doesn't feel like a system for me because it lacks a lot of these and Nintendo works well as a secondary console for me with some exclusives like Fire Emblem and third party releases such as SMT V but usually the majority of games I'm interested in playing are on PlayStation so I stick with it as my preferred console.
@Deljo Because we all have favourites. We have opinions. As opposed to being completely homogenised and machine like. And we perceive injustice.
It's already confirmed that Call of Duty will still release on Playstation, so I don't see why people are still talking like it won't.
Wow. Comments on this site are toxic. Can’t be a fan of both consoles in this world apparently.
Might also be good to remember that Xbox consoles actually did outsell PS5 during the month of December.
@uptownsoul I wouldn’t be so sure. Time will tell
I still don't have solid proof that either of them actually exist.
PS5 will outsell Series consoles but it won’t be 2:1. Series X still sells out and a ton of people have bought the Series S as a second console. Owning a PS5 and a Series X I can honestly say they’re both great.
It will be much closer in North America as it currently is. PlayStation is resting on last generation and Microsoft is making power moves right now. They’re serious about it this generation. Yes, PlayStation has all the cultural popularity but a lot of people are buying an Xbox and playing in its ecosystem. If you’re denying that you’re not being honest with yourself. 2:1 for 2022 is a bit high. It won’t be 1:1 but it will be close. This isn’t 2013-2020.
It's impressive that switch is outselling the new gen consoles without cod, madden, and new (not legacy) fifa, in the end it's all about (exclusive) games, and nintendo have an abudant of it.
The PS5's sales numbers are about double of the Series X, if my sources are correct. But both companies claim chip shortages are limiting sales numbers.
So does this mean Microsoft is receiving far fewer chips from manufacturers than Sony for some unknown reason?
Not trying to start some fanboy BS, but I found this a bit peculiar. I admit I know little of the inner workings of the semiconductor industry though!
@GamingFan4Lyf
"I've always played on Playstation" is a legit, completely valid reason to continue getting Playstation though. Doesn't need to go any deeper. It's a very practical consideration.
They cleverly lock you into their ecosystem. The games you bought on PS4, the trophy system, your friends list, etc. - those all carry over. I own 750+ games digitally across PS3/PSP/Vita/PS4/PS5 in addition to 250+ physical copies of PS4 games I can play on PS5 (remind me why I need Gamepass or PS Now lol). I own zero games on Xbox digitally. Don't think Xbox is any worse than Playstation, it's just I'm kind of stuck in that ecosystem.
A friend who has grown up playing Xbox was interested in the PS5 and asked me, the resident nerd, whether he should get a PS5 or Series X. Despite being a big Playstation fan, the answer was simple: I recommended the Series X, because his game purchases would carry over. A much better investment.
He ignored me and bought a PS5 anyways. The heart wants what the heart wants I guess.
@Integrity
Early 30s here. I started in gaming in earnest with the Sega Genesis. There's been a lot of twists and turns since then. (Not old enough to remember the Atari days).
Just wanted to say you hit the nail right on the head as far as all my views. Hesitant to get embroiled in the petty squabbling, 'politics', and internal corporate issues, but I am a strong advocate of actually owning things I buy, across all industries and hobbies, and Microsoft is challenging that. Don't appreciate their business model one bit.
In my mind, younger people don't have a good sense of their own consumer rights and what they are entitled to for their dollar. They just don't know any better because (in their defense) digital distribution and streaming has been all they've known since day one.
Stereotypical "These darn kids..." response haha. But it's true.
@UltimateOtaku91
It runs very well in handheld mode. In docked mode I think the game is aiming for a resolution that’s a little too high so the framerate is unstable.
And it’s the friendliest SMT V game by far. Different difficulties and you can buy (for cheap, but still a shady practice) and turn on higher encounter rate for demons that give you a bunch of Xp and items to sell. Removes the grind almost entirely.
I’m playing it in normal mode. It’s hard. Extremely hard. But it’s very rewarding.
@NeonPizza
As much as I love the Dualsense, especially the haptic rumble, I’d sacrifice all of its special features for battery life equivalent to the Xbox controllers or my Switch pro controller.
My Pro controller, even at two years old, still lasts about 35 to 40 hours. Xbox controllers are in that same range.
My Dualsenses? 9 hours new, about 5 hours tops now with some age on them.
I don’t understand why the battery life is so piss poor. The Dualshock 4 had the same issues; actually it was worse. They don’t last off the charger very long.
Thankfully I do have the official PS5 charging station. So I just set the controller on the charger when I’m done using it. Still it’s annoying when I forget to put it up and the next day after work the controller is sitting on the equivalent of an hour of battery.
@uptownsoul
I think it’ll be pretty close.
I could see the PS5 finishing at about 115 million and the Xbox Series systems right behind it at 100 to 105 million.
I'd argue all that matters to MS now is Gamepass subscribers. With pc and game streaming actual Xbox sales aren't as relevant to them anymore.
@Rural-Bandit
I stopped playing monopoly years ago haha
No seriously I don’t think monopoly has anything to do with what consumers actually buy at the end of the day.
But it’s a different topic anyway and I’m not really interested. Ms has had issues with monopoly legit concerns since as long as I can remember. At the time I was even very fond of what Ms was doing and Bill gates was cool to my naive eyes so that’s saying it’s ages ago haha
Have a nice week end 😅
@GamingFan4Lyf
‘no other reason other than they just "like the PlayStation".’
Hi I like McDonald too.
I can t be bothered explaining why if some people would strangely find issues about it because they have different tastes. I have many friend who like Xbox. I would never press them to explain why.
Differences are beautiful but the man in the mirror is is cool too.
Edit
If you open your eyes and mind it’s not difficult to see the differences even though some details appeal to some more than other details.
@Emperor_Rusty
My kid loves her Switch 🤗
(But she still takes over the PS5 more often I than I wish haha)
@Emperor_Rusty Honestly I believe the Switch/PS5 combo is the best console combination I've ever had.
All of the narrative driven, highly polished experiences are on PS5, but Switch has games like Mario Kart and Zelda that I get lost in for days at a time.
I prefer PlayStation, but I couldn't be without my Switch.
I'm 38, been playing games since I was 4 or 5, and I also have a Series X, just to give you an idea.
@meistergeister
Absolutely. It’s an incredible year for games on PlayStation. I don’t think everyone in the comments realise it. Just even GT7 has a huge impact (imagine playing that on a small last gen screen? Nope)
And many less talked about games too.
@uptownsoul
I agree with you but I think the jury is out on how big the gap will be (might be as big as last gen) depending on Sony strategy regarding PC.
@TheRedComet I easily get more than 15 hour of play time mate..i mute the microphone though cause i don't need it..the haptics are all to strong mode too...
@awp69 to be honest the most aggressive comments seemed to be on the side of Xbox. I own a PS5 and XSX. Sub to both now and GPU. Sony only fans have a right to feel miffed this week. I can only imagine the anger if Sony had pulled the same move from the Xbox only crew.
I am myself disappointed because third parties companies being swallowed up into Sony or Xbox will lead to less games. Which IMHO is bad.
We are where we are and EA will be next and that will be the biggest one yet.
@Perturbator So there's three things going on here.
a) Microsoft are splitting their silicon between home consoles and servers, which means that without significantly more allocation they're unable to make as many sales
b) At the low end, both the XSS and PS5 DOE are meeting or exceeding demand: in many places you can find a new and shiny XSS sitting on the shelves, waiting for someone to take it home, while it's harder to find the PS5 DOE, but it's reliably going for MSRP. This indicates that MSFT are manufacturing more of the XSS than necessary, thus getting fewer unit sales than they could.
c) on the higher end, things are still pretty scarce, but while the PS5 is almost universally rare to find in stock, for the XSX it varies a lot by territory. In some places it sells out straight away, in others it might take a week to sell stock, during which time you'll see it right there on the shelf next to the XSS, and in some you can just walk into a store any time and pick one up, without worrying about the stock cycle.
This says to me that while MS could sell more consoles if they were manufacturing them, a large part of their problem is logistics and misunderstanding the market. I'm pretty sure that if they had biased their manufacturing more towards the XSX and less towards the XSS, and were better able to send their consoles to the markets where there's more demand, then we'd see supply meeting demand. On the PS5 side of things, pretty much every console manufactured is in a gamer's house, rather than stores, warehouses or scalpers, which shows a much truer picture of being supply constrained.
@theheadofabroom That's informative, kudos!
@Integrity they done away with the loophole a good while ago.
@GMoney2432 no they haven't. You can still buy cheap Turkish/Brazilian Xbox Live subs using a VPN and then convert that to GPU for the offer price on the Xbox store. HUKD has stuff posted in there often for such deals.
Switch is definitely going to be 1st due to the chip shortage and what appears to be a very strong 1st party lineup. Nintendo haven't even done a Direct yet and we already know a few very high profile releases including one releasing as early as next week. The battle for 2nd I'm much less sure about, I could see Series S get a large boost if CoD 2022 is day 1 on Game Pass but Sony's timed exclusivity deal on CoD until at least 2025 may include blocking the game from Game Pass much like what happened with Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo's 1 year timed exclusivity.
So overall I think 2nd will go to the console that has the most stock. If PS5 has more stock then Series X (not S) then I think PS5 2nd and Series X|S 3rd and vice versa.
@TheRedComet I concur about the battery life. I also have a problem with latency every now and then and with certain games. I have three controllers and all of them have done it. Two have gotten so bad I traded them in.
@playstation1995 I agree with you brother. The way i see it is id rather not any one buy anyone and everybody be free to play what games they want on their console of choice... BUT.... whats to stop MS from sticking in a sneaky offer with capcom, Bandai, SQE etc "for the protection and preservation of the industry" of couse. Buying up companies isnt great for any of us really but id damn rather it be done by a company that i choose to purchase my console from than be suckerpunched (no pun intended) and wake up one morning to read MS had purchased some other big name. Its a selfish stance and one id rather not seen the ball start rolling with but i think it has.
Word 🤜🤛
@Kidfunkadelic83. I agree and there's no way Microsoft is buying capcom.or square enix.sega.bandai namco.etc.the Japanese wont let that happen.word up son
@Rural-Bandit same. They are too tight lipped with everything now days. Go for months without anything then "heres psvr2" then back to waiting again. Their communication sucks imo and at the present i thinks its pretty crucial.
Once stock starts flowing PS5 will easily outsell Xbox. Microsoft are stupid to think opening its wallet and trying to control the console market will save em its about real quality content. Sony have worked hard to create the PlayStation brand, and make it the force it is today.
@OneWingedAngel Well, like I said, they were annual CoD/Sports titles gamers - no care about PlayStation exclusives or RPG's. They also don't care about 4K or 120Hz or any of that.
Their purchase was purely just habitual - so I was more curious than anything why they chose one over the other when it didn't matter which to choose based on their gaming habits.
I don't think you can go wrong with either console; but I do think there is more cost savings on the Xbox side if all you do is play CoD/sports titles. Why pay $499 for a PS5 when you can pay $299 for a Series S and play the exact same games?
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