Battlefield 2042's Community Is So Irate Its Subreddit May Be Closed

"But the community remains angered by"

Internet in a nutshell.

Thought nothing could beat The Last of Us II's sub. People were sounding like Neil Druckmann had ruined their lives, caused them trauma, violated them in some way. It was ridiculously awful!

I feel like people might just be reaching their tipping point and are tired of getting these broken, unpolished, barebones games at launch that were over promised and under delivered, games that takes months or years to be updated to be in a good place. We are basically paying these big companies to be alpha testers and that isn't right. I don't condone harassment or toxicity but I can understand the frustration for sure and I feel these companies get what they deserve when they release games in a state like this

Andy McNamara has always come across as a level headed and decent human being. Take your anger out on those at the top who make these decisions that mean they have to cut corners and work longer hours to try and get the game into a decent state for launch release. Their hands are tied, they’re not the ones deserving of your hatred!

Reddit jannies (they do it for free!) are being a bunch of wusses, imagine my shock.

EDIT; McNamara closed the replies to his Tweet to all but his mutuals lmao.

@TheArt the Cyberpunk one had it bad too. So much that a new subreddit was made to actually talk about the good/fun stuff about the game and discuss the lore.

I've been jumping in and out of bf2042 all over xmas with a few mates and i honestly cant see what is so bad about it..i turn cross play off because i refuse to play with aim botters..i'm not that great at it but i'm having a blast in portal..jesus people get a grip..

Isn't Reddit in general one of the most toxic sites?

The game isn't bad as people make it out to be, the bugs are few and far between especially compared to bf3 and 4 launch.
The game is a blast to play but it does need more content.
I hope with the season content it'll improve but time will tell.

Maybe don't sells $60 unfinished cr*p if you don't want angry customers?

BF4 was a disaster at launch, BF2042 doesnt even come close but somehow gets so much more hate. Hell even BFV had a rockier start.
Like @Northern_munkey said, anytime i play 2042 i have a blast

@Ryguy2784 Yup. I also find it immoral to sell pre-order copies of a game they KNOW is broken. Luckily I was able to cancel my pre-order after the beta but they can eat $#!t for all I care. I understand the decision makers aren't the one's who get the flak but you can only aim at who you've got your sights on.

Sometimes games series fall off and go bad. Sometimes my favourite bands break up and reform as something a lot less to my taste. Sometimes people who are supposed to care about you hurt you and leave you behind. Sometimes life doesn't go the way we want it to. I've certainly thrown a tantrum before about things I can't control, but it's a waste of time and life to feel angry about situations. Rejoice, dear people, you're still breathing where so many others have faded back to the ether or nothingness... And if the walls painted around you were not to your taste, it's time to don the brush yourself.

So here is an article about the toxic behaviour of the bf2042 community and a few of you on here are starting to go that way with your comments..the irony..

I admit, IF I had bought this, especially on Day 1, I'd be very angry too and extremely disappointed with the entire package.

Whilst I will cede that they may have 'patched' some of the issues so that the 'Beta test' content they sold is at least playable, but its really just a limited 'beta' test. A few maps on rotation with no way to 'vote' or choose, with a few weapons to play with - that's what you'd 'expect' from a Beta and use that to 'balance' weapon types and help design the maps around the number of players ready for the 'Launch' content.

Considering this also has NO campaign, certainly doesn't offer the Squad based Game-play that defined the Battlefield game-play and charged 'Full' price for this shoddy, extremely light on content game, then of course people are 'angry' at the devs/publishers.

That doesn't mean that I think people have the right to be abusive in anyway - but I can certainly understand their anger...

You can have your frustrations and annoyances with the game, but everyone deserves time away from their job during the holidays. Absolutely nothing wrong with what DICE did.

@Uncharted2007 there's a lot to love about reddit and toxicity varies depending on which subreddit you're in. it's possible to have a toxicity-free experience if you choose the right subreddits to join. sadly, most gaming subreddits have some degree of toxicity.

They removed the single player content to focus on only making an extremely polished multiplayer game and instead release one of the most broken MP experiences in the franchise.

Do I condone toxic behavior? no but I also don't condone releasing broken games for full price and have the attitude of "thanks for ur money we will fix it later so no biggy k👌" Btw I think the developers should get time off, it's the higher ups who don't deserve sh!*

@LiamCroft That’s not what they were mad about with regard to the tweet. I don’t play Battlefield but had a look at the sub and what they were mad about was the dev team saying the fans expecting basic things like leaderboards to be implemented was brutal. The majority of the anger comes from veteran players who dislike the number of features that were cut from previous games and how barebones it was at launch. It’s easy to pick out the vitriol, which there is, but it seems a little easy to boil down the reactions to “internet being internet” and “they don’t want them to have a holiday”.

Also, to those who say they enjoyed playing and don’t see the issue, fair enough, but diehard fans of the franchise are annoyed at how much was taken away compared to previous instalments. Being happy with whatever they put out as long as it’s fun for you is a recipe for mediocrity, surely, especially since the cuts are a little baffling.

This ain’t a good solution. It just makes Dice look worse. What, are they going to remove specialists and dumb Santa clause skins from the game? Is it getting a rework? I get that takes time, but last time they got that feedback, they doubled down. There is no reason they are going to do anything but make the game worse aside from bugs, considering they just removed Rush from portal as I understand. That’s what people are mad about, that overall, Dice has only shown they will make the game even worse and less of a battlefield game. Until thst change, anything else they say comes off as PR lies to be honest.
And it’s Reddit, people get creative with ways to express their frustration, it’s known for being exaggerated with how people express themselves.

I can understand the frustrations and how people can get angry but you can express your dislike for how something ships without being abusive and insulting..i've played call of duty games that have launched with far greater issues..battlefield 3 on the ps3 was awfull for almost a whole month (unplayable online),bf4 was a real mess too..bf1 was okay but had connection issues and bf5 still has big issues..bf2042 is contentious because it has no single player content and the weapons are a bit sparse (bf4 was accused of having way too many weapons) so whats the middle ground here? This is probably the most i've enjoyed a battlefield game since bad company 2 and i think its replaced warzone as my go to online shooter..

@naruball Oh please its getting worse and worse with games the are getting more expensive with stuff left out and they still come up with excuses.

This game is not finished and should not have been released in this state i can understand that people get pissed off with these things.

I dont condone death threaths or any abuse but i can understand that responses like these things take not go over well.
Its not like their complaints are not validated. Its not like that people dont like a story or something its the core game.

@Uncharted2007 Really depends on the subreddit. I generally find it to be a welcoming place, especially the smaller subs.

@ShadowofSparta i'm a long time player of the bf series..i started playing bf2 on the pc when it first launched and have played almost every itteration of the franchise so for me personally this game isnt perfect but its by no means a travesty either..i guess not everybody is ever going to be 100% happy about anything..

@LiamCroft There is they should have never released a game in this state i agree that everyone deserves time off but these horrible releases need to stop. Their should be more rights of returning games digital and physical if they are a mess.

@Northern_munkey Can you keep track of your score already? The game is a mess people should stop making excuses for games released in a terrible state.

Well I can understand not being happy with the game, but in all honesty; there is more than enough information out there on how bad the game is to avoid purchasing it in the first place.

To be fair, the game deserves all the hate and rage it's getting. It's a really sad game, I swear BF4 looks and plays better somehow!
The mods closing the subreddit would be pretty cheap imo.

@Flaming_Kaiser i agree with you but in relation to some games that i've played its not that bad tbh..i'm not saying its an awesome game as it is incomplete and in all honesty should have launched in a more polished form but compared to the likes of gtav its quite good..gtav,heck most of rockstars games are always awful on launch day,that game was a horrible mess..but yes games cost a lot more so should be in much better shape on day 1..

@TheArt There is a difference between not liking a story and broken mess of a game. I will never accept abuse of people but these releases of games are getting worse and worse i think we need better laws of returning broken games.

@Flaming_Kaiser to be honest i'm never really that interested to know how many more thousand times i've been murdered as opposed to my kills..i'm not that competative..so long as i can track my progress to the next unlock thats all that matters..

@Northern_munkey Atleast we agree that the industry needs to start working on their quality or a way of returning games digital and physical thats the only way companies seem to care these days.

@Northern_munkey Maybe so but come on thats the most basic thing in a shooter to implement dont you agree.

@Flaming_Kaiser yeah it cant be hard agreed..i can understand why people need that feature but to me its just not that important..it dosnt break the game for me..to be honest i'm going to go play it in a few minutes with my wingman shockwave because the wifes out for the evening and i can have the surround system cranked right up which sounds disgustingly brilliant in conquest with all the planes and tanks...

They’re at least allowed a holiday. Games are a complex system of a million moving parts, especially an online game. Trying to ‘fix’ it while ensuring that everyone can still play said game and adding new content is a complete minefield. Either give them time or play something else. At the end of the day, these people should be annoyed with themselves for pre-ordering something if Dice have previous.

On one hand, of course the devs should be able to enjoy time off. How the hell can you argue with that?

On the other, BF 2042 clearly shipped and was sold to consumers as an unfinished product that lacked polish (among other things).

Moral of the story: Don't sell people disappointing products and expect zero backlash.

(That's not the fault of the developers, mind. I doubt they wanted to ship the game when it did. Usually falls to upper management if a game feels like it's been rushed.)

How about they and others start releasing games at a higher standard with minimum work needed post launch. Too many games are released in such a sorry state. We as consumers are partly to blame as we have carried on buying into these broken messes over and over again, while they’re still taking your money, they’ll keep doing it. The best way is to vote with your wallet. When will people learn.

"The things you want take time to scope, design, and execute."

Yeah, it's called development time. You know, the collective work hours before a game is released.

A developer would be justified in saying this because they have no say on when a game must be launched. Some upper management douchecanoe, though? Pfft. Please. There's a 99% chance you're part of the problem, Andy.

@Gaia093 That’s absolutely not how games release, and hasn’t been since about 2009. The traditional systems development life cycle is dead. Development time stretches far beyond traditional implementation and will continue throughout testing and beyond release. Games going gold is meaningless now. If they just released a decent Battlefield game and then that was it, no new content at all then the fan base would still be annoyed.

@Northern_munkey Great to hear you have fun with it have a good one. In the end games are there to be enjoyed but i believe as gamers we could be a little more critical towards messy games it wont hurt us. 🤪

"compared to the likes of gtav its quite good..gtav,heck most of rockstars games are always awful on launch day was a horrible mess"

Woah woah wooooaaahhh there @Northern_munkey That's a BIG LIE. 😁😁

"These expectations are brutal"

Didn't realize wanting a game that worked was setting the bar too high. Reap what you sow.

@nessisonett The fanbase's demands are only "brutal" because the game launched incomplete to begin with. Had it launched in a better state, the players would still ask for more, but it'd actually look surmountable because they're building from level 60 rather than 5.

Yes, for modern games development time continues after launch. The period before launch is still the most important regardless: it sets the whole tone in terms of reception, sales, retaining users longterm, goodwill and more. And a game that launches extremely barebones, buggy and souless has little to no chance of making a comeback. For every No Man's Sky there's a hundred Anthems.

Delays are still a thing in the era of postlaunch updates precisely because that first impression/contact is extremely important. Companies that give a damn and have the bare minimum of foresight will continue delaying their products until they're actually ready, which is good for both their workers and their bottom line in the long term.

So no, glorified pre-alphas are not a viable option for a videogame launch, especially if we're talking about engagement-driven live service schlock. The "fix it later" mentality only works if there's a solid base to work with and what you put out at launch didn't put off most of your current buyers as well as any potential ones. Battlefield upper management should count their lucky stars that the title they botched belongs to a popular franchise, else there wouldn't even be a small fanbase left to be angry about its state.

When basic features found on every FPS are absent on the most hyped fps of last year, of course people are gonna be mad

Reddit and this game deserve each other lol. But I guess Reddit was “contacted” and told to “shut it down” so to speak.

If only the game had a single player campaign.

Can't be worse than modern warfare been out since 2019 & they just keep making it worse

@Flaming_Kaiser indeed..we have the right to be critical of whatever we choose..what we dont have is the right to be abusive,hostile and downright toxic because we dont like or agree with something..we have had a couple of differences of oppinions in the not so distant past but i'd like to think that we were not horrible to each other so i cant see why this cant continue with others..but alas some people just need to be obnoxious...

@TheArt yeah i'm so sorry...my bad...gtav was sooo playable online straight off the bat..lmao..

@nessisonett

I understand that and agree. Things have changed in development.

But I do expect at least a minimum of completion that is in line with basic expectations of that genre.

Battlefield 2042 was missing a lot of basic things at launch on all platforms for a shooter in general and a Battlefield title in particular. Along with game breaking aspects of its gameplay.

1. No scoreboard.
2. No in game voice chat.
3. No squad persistence between matches.
4. No server browser for the main game mode. Critical for Battlefield players like myself with less than stellar connections. The Server browser is necessary for us to find closer servers with better connections.
5. Poor hit detection from rounds fired. (That’s a really basic thing for any shooter)
6. Poor matchmaking experience.
7. Specialist system is basically broken. There was no need to remove set classes. It was done solely to milk micro transaction money.
8. Extremely wonky weapon and vehicle balancing.
9. Low firearm variety.
10. Runs poorly on PC no matter the hardware setup. Personally didn’t impact me since I play on PlayStation. But talking with friends who play on PC shows how poorly optimized the game is, even on relatively powerful midrange cards like the 2070 Super.

The game needed another four to six months of development. Which is why I traded it back in (didn’t buy it at launch, I wasn’t that crazy, waited till the second patch) and I’m waiting until May of next year to try and jump back into it.

Modern games are crap. PSX 2 The 3 is for me!

@Ryguy2784 I see what you mean there but Tlou2 reaaly was't a , unpolished, bareboned game at all. It was a masterpiece in graphics and story. But that's my opinion though. And i know that a lot of gamers agree with me.

@TommyNL Yeah, I love the TLOU2. I think people were mad about some choices they made and expressed those frustrations in poor ways. 2042 is just not a complete game so I understand way more the anger directed at the devs. They may not be the ones who make the choices, that is on management and the publisher, but they are the ones who communicate to the community and who are going to receive most of the backlash

Vote with your wallet. And if it Christmas vote with your parents.

@SuperSilverback Probably because you have to think, at some point, DICE would learn how their engine and systems work and release titles that build on the groundwork of its predecessors and stop constantly restarting from square one with the same old glitches and problems.

People want to see progress and not be spending money on consistently broken software. Surprise.

@nessisonett Depends, on whether the devs/publisher are competent or not.

Luckily there are some companies that will finish their games before releasing them. Unfortunately it's embarassing that the cycle you mention isn't uncommon nowadays. But that doesn't mean it's a smart idea. It's dumb, because whether it's before or after launch, work whether it's bug fixing or adding new content takes resources to complete. Delaying a game means a temporary delay in game sales, whereas opting to fix a game after launch simply results in devs wasting time on fixing the old game (when they could be starting on a new project) and the consumers lose trust.

I get it if it's a small company and they urgently need to put out a game in early access to keep the company afloat, but EA doesn't need to.

These developer’s need to stop releasing half finished games. They should be embarrassed by how unprofessional their product is.

@GalacticBreakdown Yeah that wont happen and i believe just like with other stuff their should be some quality control. The gamemarket gets away with way to much ***** nowadays its like the Wildwest without any repercussions whatever they pull.

@Northern_munkey But why make all these promises everytime we have no singleplayer so we can polish/put all our time in the multiplayer. And even have the balls to make editions that are over €100 yeah it has to stop somewhere. Im not going to keep smiling and let them get away with everything. I wont threathen anyone but im just letting go even with my favorite franchises.

I bought the deluxe which came with the first year of battle passes and they haven’t even rolled those out yet. Maps get stale after awhile. No party chat and no way to coordinate your teams squad. Each squad not spawning with a vehicle is really bad decision and having to run for a few minutes to get into action. No balance and having to level up to get weapons to take out over powered vehicles is ridiculous. Only fun with friends and that’s still a stretch but at least you can coordinate.

everything’s “toxic” these days ; you can’t even criticize without someone thinking you’re angry or a troll . i rather people who speak up than people who willingly take everything despite the detriments because they don’t wanna feel like a “complainer” . it’s really dumb . it’s people who criticize that are the reason things get better & improve , not the brown-nosers .

@Flaming_Kaiser and? If I don't like something, I don't play it, or, if I bought it, I move on. Life is much simpler like that and you end up living longer. Plus, you spend your time doing things you like instead of wasting your time and energy or things that make you feel worse.

There's always something to make you feel angry about. What you choose to focus on is up to you. Gamers, especially those who post online, tend to focus on the negative way too much.

@Ryguy2784 Who forced them to buy these games at launch? If they're tired of them being released at such a state, they could simply... wait and see if the game is worth it? But noooooooope! Buying it and then complaining about it makes more sense for some reason.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice?

@naruball 100% agree...you buy call of duty and day 1 maybe even month 1 its not great..match makings a mess,hit markers are all over the place,rubber banding...the list goes on..battlefield (just copy and paste the cod comments) but still people buy them even though you know and you really do know you are in for a rough first month or so before things get better and then...you go and moan about it in the loudest most obnoxious way you all can think of...but then go and buy them the following year..its like a real life rogue like playing out in front of my eyes..i know what i'm letting myself in for with games and its not a new phenomenon..any body remember road rash 2 on the megadrive? That had a rather horrible bug in it whereas upon completion of the game it just locked up..thats right people it just locked up..greenish screen with a few multi coloured blocks in the top left of the screen..funny how nobody ever mentions things like that but act like this is a new thing...if you were all really that hacked off you would have stopped playing video games a long,long time ago...is it acceptable that games are released broken and unfinished? No its not..is it acceptable that given the rising cost that our favorite hobby is eating into our incomes yet still having mt's and whole sections of the games held back until you have to pay extra for it (even though its on the disc?) No its not but what can we do? Stop buying them if it upsets you that much..if its making you that unhappy pack it in and start doing jigsaws..maybe read a book or 2...there is nothing we can do not even as customers except return the game if possible but to think that we can somehow instigate a revolution and get games released 100% perfect we are deluding ourselves..vote with your wallets if you dont like it..i dont buy any games day 1 unless they are under £50 (acceptable to me) because i just dont agree with £70 games...come on people i'm sure you all have something much more important to vent about..

@naruball You always go against everything just to be on the other side. Yes im always mad if a release is a broken mess you see the patern here.

This product is bad no matter what way you look at it its a mess. I really dont care about the if you dont like it dont buy it excuse.

As a customer who buys a product you should always have the right to a refund if a product is this broken. Like with everything else dont come with
a example like music or a movie thats about taste.

Oh wait if you should go to the movie theater and something is wrong with the sound or projector im certain they wont say yeah better luck next time.

@Flaming_Kaiser "You always go against everything just to be on the other side"

Nice little fact you just pulled out of your... behind. Excellent starting point to be taken seriously.

"This product is bad no matter what way you look at it its a mess. I really dont care about the if you dont like it dont buy it excuse."

Oh, so you don't care for it? Good for you. And I don't care for what you think. See how that goes?

"Oh wait if you should go to the movie theater and something is wrong with the sound or projector im certain they wont say yeah better luck next time."

Unsurprisingly, you missed my entire point. I never said that people shouldn't get a refund when they buy something that doesn't work properly. That was entirely your assumption. You clearly need to work on your reading comprehension. I specifically disagreed with being outraged every other second about every other game. When someone does that, they look like the old neighbour who keeps finding reasons to be annoyed and fight with others. They may be right that the kids are indeed pretty loud, but that's a sad way to live your life. They focus so much on what they don't like instead of spending what's left of their life doing things they enjoy.

@Northern_munkey glad we agree. People here seem to be jumping to all sorts of conclusions, but mostly they assume that we're defending companies. I couldn't care less about EA or Ubisoft. I buy a few of their games ( actually haven't bought one in ages) when I feel like they're worth my money (i.e. good price and performance).

Release a product that actually looks finished and polished and then the toxicity will go away, but I guess that's difficult.
Also, as someone as someone who doesn't have a "time off" if ***** goes down during holiday can't say I relate to that shoddy excuse.

The few times I have ordered a product online and it was delivered broken, I got a personal apology and they instantly refunded the money.
This was the response to an accident, which they had no control over.
Why do these game companies deliver broken products, which they knew are broken, offer no refunds, and cry about the customers being toxic?
There should be way stricter laws for this, something that would make toxicity the least of their worries.

@Ryguy2784 Completely agree. How can you not be angry when you pay at least $70 USD for a broken alpha?

Don't condone any threats or insults but it just feels like they are deflecting away from the fact that Battlefield 2042 was pretty much dead on arrival.

Not the devs really fault but EA's and DICE management. EA now has to greenlight Titanfall 3 to make up for it. #LoseWin

@arsmolinarc I agree mate! Lets hope for TF3

@naruball I get what you are saying and yes, people don't need to preorder or buy games at launch, especially from EA and Dice whose games always release broken. However, I will never blame a customer who is passionate and excited for a game, that was hyped and marketed as the best BF yet, only to be a broken shell of a game. I will always blame the people who chose to release the game in that condition

On one hand, people can rightfully be mad if they get "tech demo" for full price. On the other hand they will buy it also even if they get just empty Main Menu...

This is why people need to stop buying games day 1. Big publishers, especially EA, listen to one thing, money. We as consumers need to stop putting blind faith in games and do our own research so that we are spending our money on a quality product and not getting burned. I watched multiple review videos about the BF2042 beta test which pointed out some serious flaws so I didn’t buy it. In today’s time with game journalists, youtubers, metacritic, etc… releasing deep dive reviews and review scores on the first day of release, if not before, there’s so many options to inform your purchase, I don’t think there’s much of an excuse now.

i don't even know why they think that First Person Shooters are a skill game? All you doing is pointing at the center of the screen the fastest, in a really small map. What battlefield call of duty we on now part 1 million?, 10 battlefield and call of duty games a year. takes zero skill

@Yoop first person shooters require a certian amount of skill if you want to be good enough to play them online and remain competative without resorting to cheating..they require a certain amount of proficiancy with the use of the dual sense,mouse and keyboard or whatever control method you prefer..so to say that they are not skill games is complete tosh..and if i'm honest most video games require a certain amount of skill and please note i said "most" not all...

Have they paused to think that maybe people are fed up of paying continually rising prices for games that come out broken, lacking content which will be provided later, half-arsed or just plain crap. Prices rising while the quality of releases drops is going to annoy people. Vile insults are always wrong, but if developers started putting as much effort into developing their games as they do their excuses this wouldn’t happen. Basically what I’m saying is work to avoid the situation instead of complaining when you release garbage and get called out for it

Never pre order anything. I don't understand why anyone would ever do that.
And we got an amazing online shooter for free, I don't miss Battlefield at all since I started playing hell let loose.
It's not the state of the game that annoyed me but the design and direction choices.
It is a crap bf game but like I said, I've moved on.
Edit... Don't blame dice (what's left of the original dice talent), but blame EA. Its their fault, not the devs.

@Would_you_kindly Modern Warfare wasn't a broken mess when it came out though, that's only really happened since Warzone, Black Ops Cold War and Vanguard dropped

@ReddJelly that's what makes it worse in my opinion they had a good game & then ruined it months later & it was too late to get a refund by then

@ReddJelly are you joking? I cant tell because modern warfare was a joke for at least 2 weeks..from day 1 there were server issues,campaign crashed a fair few times,some parts of the campaign failed to progress prompting a lenghty reload...i could go on and lets not mention the shoddy match making..in fact when warzone launched the game got so much better for me because...i didnt have to play the broken multiplayer on miniscule maps that shipped with the game..yeah modern warfare was damn near perfect when it launched..rose tinted glasses..

@Northern_munkey Sucks to be you I guess? I didn't have any issues with MW(2019) until Warzone came out. If that's not the experience you had, I feel for you bud, but that's not what happened to me.

@ReddJelly dosnt suck to be me..i guess everybody has different experiences..a lot of people i've played with all expressed dismay at the awful server issues on launch day..i guess all the posts on the modern warfare forums about the issues were all wrong too..maybe you should get on there and tell them it sucks to be them as well..good luck buddy..

@Northern_munkey it's an expression, you don't need to take it personally, and nothing you say here is going to retroactively change my experience with MW. Again, I'm sorry you had a bad time for a couple of weeks, but I didn't.

I think one thing to hammer home here is the people saying "I don't condone abusive behaviour but I also don't condone the state the games are released in these days,"

That makes it sound equal when it really isn't. The state of the game is a level 3 problem. The toxicity is a level 10 problem. These are thoughts that can absolutely be held at the same time, but the toxicity is something that absolutely must be managed as a priority.