Update: A little more clarification on the contents of the pre-order packs and Digital Deluxe Edition for Sonic Origins have emerged courtesy of the game's Japanese website. Firstly, the Mirror Mode can be unlocked through gameplay, so you get early access if you pre-order. The coins, too, are for use in the Vault.
The extra songs included with the Music Pack span Sonic Spinball, Sonic 3D Blast, and Knuckles' Chaotix. So there you go.
Original Story: Sonic Origins, the compilation collection of SEGA Genesis classics, will officially spin-dash to the PlayStation 5 and PS4 from 23rd June – albeit with a catalogue of pricey options. The core game will set you back $39.99 on the PS Store, and will include Sonic the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Sonic CD, and Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles. It’s worth noting that two of these titles can already be enjoyed as part of the much cheaper SEGA Genesis Classics.
There are some perks and bonuses here, though: SEGA’s added new animated cut-scenes, which are teased in the trailer above. The publisher’s also added new modes: Classic and Anniversary. While the former, naturally, replicates the 16-bit originals, the latter offers unlimited lives and wide-screen support; we’re assuming this has been designed with newer players in mind, as the old-school Sonic the Hedgehog titles can get tough at times.
You’ll be able to collect coins as you progress to spend on content in an in-game vault, and there’ll even be little gameplay missions to complete, separate from the core campaigns. If you pre-order you’ll receive the Start Dash Pack, which comes with bonus coins for the aforementioned museum, Mirror Mode, and a letterbox background. Here’s where it gets weird, though, there’ll be two extra DLC packs: the Premium Fun Packs and the Classic Music Pack.
If you plump up for the $44.99 Digital Deluxe Edition, you’ll get both of these from the outset. The perks include Hard Missions, some additional animations, and music from the Genesis originals. The additional music will cost $3.99 if you choose to purchase it separately. So, it’s quite a complicated setup.
It looks like a complete collection, and clearly a lot of work’s gone into it, but it’s also pretty pricey. We understand there’s a new generation of Sonic the Hedgehog fans now, perhaps inspired to play the games by the character’s recent movie success, but are you willing to plump up $39.99 for these legendary Genesis platformers? Lock your Sonic 3 cartridge into Sonic & Knuckles in the comments section below.
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Ridiculous pricing, just emulate them like everyone else 👍
So they're locking stuff behind a preorder wall that should be in this collection by default?
Actually all of it should, maybe barring the music pack. If that's the only way to get around the Sonic 3 music issues, then so be it, but everything else should be included by default.
Nope. Love these games but not like this
Definitely a bit higher in price than I expected but at the very least it sounds like they did put some actual effort into this. At least it's a better deal than Mario 3D Allstars was though and unlike that one you can wait for a sale if the initial asking price is too high.
I will definitely buy this just maybe not right away.
@Milt Yeah, there's two editions: Standard and Digital Deluxe. Then there's a pre-order pack and two DLC packs.
If you pre-order Digital Deluxe ($44.99) you get everything.
I'm in. Classic Sonic games in a new way for the first time in 25-30 years? Yeah son.
Given the modern gaming is on the rocks, I'm not surprised to see more compilations like this. Between this and Ninja Turtles Cowabunga Collection, I'm set until modern gaming can catch up and release something worth my attention.
Definitely a bit pricey, not to mention I already have like 10 different ways to play Sonic 1 and 2. That Sonic Mega Collection released way back in the PS2/GC/Xbox era seem like the better deal.
After the TMNT collection and how many games were included, this is disappointing. Missing the master drive games (calling something origins and not providing the actual origins), Sonic Spinball, and I'm sure lots of other games from the genesis and master drive era.
FINALLY IT'S HERE GIMMIE, GIMME, GIMMIE!!!!! ^__^
@PlayStationGamer3919 Two are DLC packs but it's a bit messy agreed.
Way too expensive, especially when the sega collection is the same price (if not cheaper) and features 5 times as many games (including half of whats available here)... besides, I'd only be getting it for sonic 3 and knuckles
Loved the headline. I half expected the title to be called: "Sonic - Pricey Edition"
Seems like a cheap ploy to extract money from recent movie success. But it will work.
Older fans, like myself, will simply emulate the original titles and that's enough for me, but I guess some die hard fans will appreciate new movies and widescreen modes, though the cost for them is significant.
It's a bit too expensive really, but it'll be nice to have easy access to these widescreen versions of the games at least.
Put a £1,000 price tag with a Sonic NFT and I’m in 😜
Probably getting it regardless. With all the open world games this year, I’m starving to say I’ve beaten a few games this year and I know with Cowabunga Collection and this, I’ll be able to checkmark that psychological urge and have a great time doing it. Lol. Besides, it’s been ages since I’ve played Sonic 3 or CD.
As far as I'm aware all these games are on "Sega mega drive ultimate collection" on the PS3 which I have.
Those sorts of messy grids detailing the various editions and DLC make me hesitant to purchase this. Spending time trying to figure out the correct way to buy this is hassle.
I'm chuffed they're all widescreen but that pricing is outrageous, ableit totally in line with Sega's exploitative attitude when it comes to their mascot; the hardcore fans will eat it up regardless. I will wait for heavy sale.
Especially considering Sonic Mega Collection on GC came in at the same price and featured more titles.
Way too pricey for a digital game, release it physically and I will buy it but not digitally thank you.
Pre-ordered it. £32.99 here in the UK.
My first ever game played was Sonic The Hedgehog on Master System II
Just play the Sega mega drive collection instead, it's probably a lot cheaper now and has a lot more games.
Characters animation in the main menu is dlc? Wtf?
Do we know if these are the Christian Whitehead remasters?
I dunno $10 a game isn't the worst, but the value just doesn't feel there. There needs to be a little more, throw in sonic 3-D blast and sonic spinball.
On the one hand I look and my collection of $8 a piece bare bones Arcade Archives releases and the pricing isn’t so bad. Then I look at Capcom’s Arcade Stadium with 32 games and plenty of bells and whistles for the same price as Sonic Origins and I think Sega could do a little better.
Hmm, this all seem unnecessary. Hard Mode dlc? Fun. I'll wait for a deep discount.
@tinCAT-zero Aye but sonic3 + knuckles are now the combo game 😍😍😍
Strange how people view pricing these days. Basically they're releasing the set of games for the same price as the original cartridge would have cost. Or, put another way, using inflation, this set works out at £48 cheaper than the original cartridge. As that would have been roughly £88 today. Gasp and scream at the outrageous pricing of those £70 PS5 titles. 🤣
For 50 quid they could have at least included games from the sonic gems collection, this feels like a rip off for a couple of sonic games, no thanks sega
@wiiware greed at the most high level! 😤😤
The bonuses are ridiculous!
They definitely overexplained this, making it seem needlessly convoluted at a glance. The 3 columns in the middle weren't necessary lol.
@Jayslow It does provide the actual origins. Sonic 1 on Mega Drive came first.
I’ll wait till the inevitable sale
y’all want the 90s back so bad so y’all get 90s prices .
While the price is high, this looks to be a collection for hardcore fans with the mobile version content and updates, which is a welcome sight compared to the half assed ports in the Mega Drive collection.
Casuals might want to wait for a sale or price drop.
Are they secretly planning to add the master system ones to this collection? It is far too expensive otherwise.
I see from the trailer Hidden Palace is in Sonic 2, from the mobile version. I know I'm probably going to buy this, even though I have the Japanese and PAL versions of Sonic Jam, Mega Collection, Sonic Gems, the Mega Drive Collection on PS4 and Switch, SEGA AGES versions... and my original Sonic 1 and 2 Carts from the 90s. Nostalgia gets me every time with the Hedgehog. All these options are a bit much though.
@Boldfoxrd Master System versions would be a nice addition.
So do Sonic 1 & 2 contain all of the extras that were present in the mobile versions? Or are they simple ports of the MD versions? Can you play widescreen and still have limited lives? Is the “music pack” required to get the correct music in ice cap/carnival night etc in sonic 3? And why no physical? I would’ve paid for a physical but not keen on paying so much for digital only
On the one hand that’s too expensive, and on the other that’s too expensive.
If I understand correctly they are making tails and knuckles playable on all games? And Amy is with the trio in the animated scene even though it doesn't make much sense... Could she be an unlockable character?
I'm in two minds. I don't want to pay launch prices, but at the same time I'm worried that spoilers are going to be everywhere after release.
@RogerRoger I love your hatred of Sonic CD
You could say... SEGA wants their customers to jump through Rings to get everything... 🤣
@RogerRoger We all know you're buying this, and playing though Sonic CD again.
As am I.
The digital deluxe edition is 60 bucks Canadian. Tabernac!
@velio84 actually there is a PS2 disc with Sonic games (mega collection or something). I had it for about 5$ brand new and I am sure that the graphics have not changed that much.
Too expensive? Im sure most of you dove in and dumped $60 on mario all-stars…
For $45 you get 4 remastered games, not half baked and dumped out ports, new modes, added content (animations).
Compared to what nintendo pulls idk why people are acting like this is a rip-off.
Yes, compared to something like the crash and spyro trilogies this game is too expensive for what it is $45 isn't horrendous. Felt far more offended dishing out $60 for ***** mario ports I already had on my pc with nothing new added…SEGA could have easily charged the same amount and half assed ported then out, and chose not too. $40 game with a $5 dlc to have everything…at least SEGA is taking your money and put effort into what we are getting. I think this would be an actual issue if they pushed nintendo’s agenda forward and made $60 ports for the set and kept the negative industry culture of minimum effort for full game price and help continue to push that as the standard.
@get2sammyb standard, digital, DLC...and then you'll get in-game purchases, 🤣🤣. Oh and the extra music is 4$....are really these people so hungry and desperate?!
The best redesigned game so far from the old-school games redesigned for PS4 I've seen is Diablo II and III Resurrected....
@eM1x029 diablo II? Did they patch it? When I played the “demo” it looked and played pretty rough. Would be really happy if they fixed it!
@Gunnerzaurus as if they can’t stop consoles from playing particular games already if they wanted to 😂 we don’t “own” our games anymore , we don’t even own our accounts .
i welcome the inevitable streaming era in open arms tbh ! hopefully next generation the big 3 have some sort of streaming services for PC to download their exclusives .
So €40 for a digital product no sale.
@Gunnerzaurus Cant wait to have 10 plus subscriptions without any form of ownership yeah ill pass.
i guess the failure of NFT's was a devastating blow to sega. they need to eat where they can! absolute trash business model with this release. i'll stick to my 3 other sega compilations and good old retroarch, thanks.
@J-Jazz you call this lazy compilation of games a "remaster"???
I'm excited for this remaster, but will be waiting until it's $25 New or cheaper.
@Porco I actually do call it a remaster, since it restores cut content like Hidden Palace Zone, adds new characters to games that didn't have them previously such as Knuckles in Sonic 1 and CD, and adding the widescreen which actually does make a difference when it comes to Sonic.
This is far from half assed, unlike the Mega Drive collections people keep recommending in this comment section with shoddy port jobs.
@Sakisa Casuals people with half a brain could also wait. Why lock DLC content behind a preorder paywall its not the first time their games on Playstation where terrible ports. Also 5 tiers, music as DLC, difficulty behind a paywall and its €45 and digital only yeah if being casual is the issue here...
@J-Jazz That Nintendo i scummy does not make its any better and the setup is a total with extra locked behind a preorder and digital only at €45.
Sonic Spinball, Sonic 3D Blast, and Knuckles' Chaotix should have been included as well at this price. Or at very least as part of the DLC, not just their music.
Greedy cash grab...
@J-Jazz Never tried the Demo, but the game is awesome compared to the PC version from the medieval ages of PC games. Better HD graphics, 5.1 sound (at least this is what I have, but I presume it's the highest possible). And I don't want to advertise, but I really love it. Diablo II Resurrected is the name, you can check some gameplay on YouTube
@Mezzer sheep will guzzle it up regardless 🙄🙄
@KingDedede just shows you how much of a rip of this is 😤😤
@RogerRoger what did Sonic CD do to you? XD for me, I think Sonic CD is absolutely my favourite (equal to or better than 3+Knuckles in my mind).
I'll buy it. It's not like we're rolling deep in quality 2D platformer releases all the time. Pure platformers have fallen off a cliff apparently and I've not played these in a long time.
Bit extreme on the cost, I'll get this at some point but I'd rather pay a little less considering these very old games.
@Sakisa i did not hear about any new zones. if they are actually proper sized zones that we have never seen before, that makes things a bit more interesting. i did not see this advertised in the trailer though so what was your source for that info? the widescreen and character swapping is nothing to get excited about and doesn't warrant the "remaster" label, nor the price tag in my opinion. me, i'm just waiting patiently for sonic mania 2.
@Porco It includes the Hidden Palace Zone that was cut from Sonic 2 and restored in the mobile port, there's a shot of it in the trailer at the beginning of when it shows the 'anniversary mode'. Considering these are the masterful mobile ports, which are largely considered the definitive versions of Sonic by the fanbase. The more faithful physics comparative to some of the ports and compilations we got, extra characters, restored content and widescreen all add up to make them the best ones to go to.
Widescreen for the Classic Sonic games is also absolutely a game changer, that extra screen real estate makes a tangible difference with how fast the games are. The fact that 3&K is now getting this treatment with even more bells and whistles on top of it basically means that this is THE best package for the Classic Sonic games provided it delivers on what it promises. The price tag may be a bit steep, but this is more than just 'dumping roms and calling it a day' like some people seem to think.
@Eldritch I see this argument every time pricing gets brought up
Gaming in the 90s was niche with expensive cartridges and a less integrated global market. Comparable games on the Amiga or Atari ST were approximately £15-£20 on disk.
The original Lemmings only sold 70,000 as an example.
@eM1x029 awesome! I should have said beta on ps. It looked worse than diablo III, which was a ton of fun and looked/played fantastically. The beta was so rough it turned my friends and I off from getting it. Could just be the console version..happy there is a beautiful version out there!! Haha
@Flaming_Kaiser Dont get me wrong, I absolutely agree in that regard, why I brought up crash and spyro. Was more the fact that while SEGA is still dicking us financially, I am glad they aren't following Nintendo and taking it to the extreme…close but not fully committed to their trend. Sadly no one is going to stop this since Nintendo fans will buy anything they put out…literally anything at any price, and as long as this happens other companies with dedicated fanbases like Sonic are going to try to do the same.
@Porco it literally is a remaster. They are not ports, and were rebuilt on modern hardware..that is the definition of a remaster. Considering most remasters simply are higher resolution ports of the original game, this collection hits a higher mark than that. Hate on the collection itself for whatever you think they are doing wrong, but its still a remastering/remake of the games regardless.
@RogerRoger
Woah bro. Sonic CD is not bad. It’s weird and the level design seems like someone was LSD, but it’s not Shadow the Hedgehog.
Plus that soundtrack was bonkers good.
@shadow2k
Sonic CD is the most divisive game of the classic titles.
I love it and dislike it at the same time. I love the art style, the fantastic music (I actually like both the JP/EU and US soundtracks equally), and the somewhat creative (if too easy) boss fights.
On the other hand, the level design is a complete train wreck and I honestly believe the level designers were eating mushrooms when they worked on the game. Also, screw Metallic Madness. That zone can go to hell. It’s Metropolis Zone bad.
Still, I like it more than Sonic 2, which is my least favorite classic game. Not a popular take, but I’ve always had a ton of problems with Sonic 2.
3 and Knuckles is by far the best classic Sonic title to me. In fact, I consider it the best Genesis game ever made, just narrowly beating out Phantasy Star IV and Rocket Knight Adventures. The Japanese version of Rocket Knight specifically; the American release can join Metallic Madness in Hell. I dunno what Konami was thinking when they rebalanced the difficulty for the NA version of Rocket Knight.
Speaking of that, how is the European version? Is it more like the Jp version or is it the impossible to beat NA version in Pal?
@themcnoisy And? I'm not exactly sure where you were going with that, you seemed to falter then stop abruptly without having made a point. So Lemmings sold 70,000 copies but it was made by a company of 4 people not the vast Rockstar* that company has become today. But, all that aside, I was taking my pricing from consoles of around '92. So take the 2nd Sonic game, since the 1st was quite often bundled... Sonic 2 sold over 7.5 million copies. Hardly niche like you're trying to suggest. That and the Gremlins 2 game were selling at £49.95. That's well over £100 at today's exchange rate... whilst not being so "niche". So I'm afraid I think that old argument you're trying to dismiss is still valid.
@OrtadragoonX so I agree mostly. I dislike the vast majority of the US soundtrack but that title screen music and Sonic Boom for the opening and ending are wicked, I just don't understand why Spencer Nielsen broke the whole "every timezone of a level has the same musical theme" thing, made the US version inferior in my opinion.
The level design is interesting to say the least but you have to understand they had four level maps PER ACT (except bosses which are always in the Future, though if I recall correctly the 1995 PC version was a bit broken here and let you see them in the Past) to design, and they all had to meaningfully link together. That said, I have run afoul of poor level design once or twice - there's a part of Palmtree Panic where you can literally time travel into the ground, and Tidal Tempest 1 if you're unlucky enough can time travel you into a room behind a wall that is completely unfixable. But the majority of the game is alright in that respect. Metallic Madness is HARD, but only Last-Level-of-an-Early-Sonic-Game hard. I have little trouble with it, but then I've been playing it 25 years.
Oh agreed on Sonic 2. I don't understand how it routinely gets called the BEST SONIC EVAR despite CD and 3+K being vastly superior.
Ah, yes, 3+K. As I said I prefer CD, but not by much. 3+K was a fantastic game, really taking the fight to Nintendo for one of the best platformers of all time. Rocket Knight Adventures is rare enough in the UK that I haven't managed to source a copy at a reasonable price yet so I can't comment, but I have emulated and played a level or two and liked what I saw. Would just like to get an actual Mega Drive copy to sit in my self-refurbed Mega Drive and play. that reminds me....wonder if anyone does RGB cables that accept the Mega CD as well so I can run my MD/MCD combo through my OSSC...
@OrtadragoonX i agree about sonic 3 , it’s superior to sonic 2 ; people just love to ***** on third games .
@Eldritch that's 7.5million life time sales. It was closer to 1.5 million at the time. As the biggest game on the platform.
Anyhow the point Im making is a lot of people attempt to defend idiotic pricing strategies or overly inflated prices today. Sega could easily sell this compilation for £25 and make a tidy profit. It's irrelevant what we paid before, as gaming is now a bigger industry. PCs used to cost £5000, that's not going to stop a savvy customer querying why a new laptop is £700 or look for a better deal. To summarise I personally don't like the 'we used to pay' argument as it has so many variables and reduces quite a complicated gaming supply and demand history of physical games against an easily accessible digital storefront. Easier to work out how much this is costing them today (maybe half a million tops) and how much they will make. £40 is way over the top.
@themcnoisy I guess we're never going to agree since I don't think the games are expensive. Especially when you consider value for money. When a collection of games or game, that'll give me many many hours of enjoyment, costs far less than one evening down the local pub I'm hard pressed to see why people are bemoaning today's pricing. I probably look at past pricing because to me the price of games, in my opinion, has stayed roughly constant or dropped. Unlike other vices in life that have absolutely sky rocketed in price and are outrageously priced these days. So I can't help but think people are spoilt when they begrudge paying for something that'll give them enjoyment for many hours, weeks, possibly even months. There's not many of life's pleasures that come so cheaply as games.
As for the price of PCs I remember paying £13,000 for an Apple Mac back in the '90s. 🤣
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