Rumour: PS5 Exclusive Returnal Likely Heading to PC Soon

If it works with any slow HDD the myth that the PS5 SSD is something special will be debunked once and for all lol

This is the perfect game to go to PC for Sony and Housemarque. I hope it succeeds on that platform so more money can be made to pump out even higher quality games for the PS5.

So, from those 2-3 exclusive games of ps5 in 2 years, one goes already to pc. What can i say, good business.

Games like this, Demon's Souls, Dreams and Gran Turismo 7 feel like a perfect fit for PC in my opinion. I can't see Returnal selling much more at this point and Sony were happy with the game calling it a mega hit so I guess they're ready to put it on PC and get some more sales.

If this turns out to be true, then im glad for PC players and Housemarque. More people should experience the game It's amazing.
Heck, I'd probably double dip and replay it on PC as well.

PC gaming is getting more and more appealing

Days Gone released on PC about a year after its initial release on PS4. This move isn't without precedent plus I'm not sure it's a big deal, not with the game being available on the new PS Plus Extra service.

I'll be giving this game a go when I upgrade to Extra next month.

The more people play it the better.
Its a shame they will get inferrior sound, but im sure it will sound good even without 100s of sound sources.

This idea that pc is the best place to play games is very far from the truth in my experience. I have a 10900k pc with a 3090, but I very rarely play games on it unless I must. Sit on the sofa, press a button and be playing a perfectly optomised game in less than a minute is a key console win, and I take it every time.
Different strokes for different folks I guess 😁

I can see them wanting to release the original game in some form before releasing TLoU2 on PC.

@Kooky_Daisuke i think those are games that make people want to buy the console , same with demon souls . Returnal on the other hand is more niche imo.

@Deljo Then buy a PC nobody is stopping you even Sony i nice enough so you buy their games there. What do you want them to do pull a Nintendo an put a digital game in a fault.

@themightyant Someone gets it that the reason i dont even own a PC i want a laptop to so some simple stuff to do. 🤪

F yes!!! Still don't have a PS5 but this is one of my most wanted games and hopefully it's true so I can finally try it out.

I got beef with this. Was sold this stupid console because of the "exclusives", not to mention on how they gave these big sales pitches for how the games can "only work" on PS5. Gonna start thinking twice about preordering these big, bad "exclusives"

I'm guessing it won't be £70 on PC? This is mainly what's put me off this before now.

@IonMagi

That was already debunked. Mark Cerney is a corporate idiot.

M drives are great but there's no special sauce in a cheap console. The slowest M drives are still perfectly fine.

Good news for me as I can use WeMod and finally check it out 😅

This will be how it works. The only real competition Sony has is Microsoft and their "exclusives" come to PC on Day 1 (it is a wash)

Just make sure it works on SteamDeck from Day 1.

@Deljo

Until you price out those new cards......

PC gaming is great but getting really pricey. Of course having good RT instead of whatever these toys can produce is a bonus.

Game seems like a perfect fit and something PC players would love. Whatever expand the playerbase and get more revenue to help fund future projects

@Texan_Survivor

The PS5 is dirt cheap. A good PC is going to set you back a few thousand.

That's why I'm sticking to it for now and quit PC gaming. The gfx on the PS5 are bad comparatively but it's fine on my cheap 4k Samsung.

@Texan_Survivor

Because there is no such thing as a $399 4K+RayTracing gaming PC (Especially if you want something as compact as a PS5)

And when Elden Ring will not launch, it is up to you to figure out why Windows is glitching out.

I bought my PS5 for Ratchet & Clank. Saw Returnal on the shelf in our library but neither of my kids nor I wanted to play it, even for free. So if Sony is including it in their PS+++ rental service might as well sell it on PC while it's still fairly new. I honestly don't think Returnal was selling all of those PS5 on eBay. If Horizon Forbidden West, GoW:R and GT7 are being sold on PC in 2023 then Sony has a problem.

@Cambrius If its still 70£ on PS5 by that time it will also be 70 on PC. They aint selling it cheaper than on console

@IonMagi I always feel a little bit uncomfortable knowing just how easy it is to pirate games on PC. It's like being embarrassed by your mom coming to school to pick you up. Sony should lower the price to ~50 dollars/40 euro and people will buy it though.

They all will be. And will be day 1 soon enough. I honestly don’t know how anybody could still be in denial about where things are clearly heading. You look at the investments they’ve been making. You look at the things they’ve been saying. You look what they’re currently doing… and some still insist day 1 pc releases are never going to happen. Actively get angry at the mere thought. Good times ahead for those people…

@Bismarck They would need to lower the price on Console too then which wont happen after only a year

"It's only old games being used to hype up the sequel which will definitely only be on consoles, it's a smart strategy!" (HZD)

"It's only games that flopped critically and commercially, more sales will absolutely lead to a sequel!" (Days Gone)

"Even though it's the highest rated PS4 exclusive, it's still just a PS4 game, relax your shiny new PS5 is still definitely worth it!" (God of War)

Now we're getting bonafide made-just-for-PS5 games coming to PC in less than 2 years. This is honestly quite insulting to PS5 owners and those who felt mislead into believing these games were designed to fully utilise the bespoke features of the PS5 and DualSense. A PC port immediately invalidates the claim that these games were fully designed for PS5 because there's no way Sony would waste time and money on a port that only a tiny fraction of PC players with comparable PS5 specs and DualSense controllers would be able to play, it simply makes no business sense.

The PS5 continues to become less desirable

Perfect game to hit PC sooner, I actually think the PC crowd will give it the rightful love it deserves. I platinumed it and the experience will stay with me forever, its just one of those games. Although haptics and audio on PS5 were transformative, so not sure how that will transfer if playing mouse/keyboard.

@truerbluer They can't make enough PS5s. Use your brain before getting angry.

This is my favorite game so far this gen. Everything about it is smooth and fluid. Honestly feels like the most next gen game on any system to me. PC gamers are in for a treat.

@Flaming_Kaiser don't remember asking your permission but cheers👍

@Bismarck Then explain why PS5 versions of cross-gen games have handily outsold their PS4 counterparts this gen.

@truerbluer Because people want the next gen experience. Duhh...

@truerbluer Yeah people here have moved the goal post several times, I remember reading all those type of comments when the PC ports just began. Like I said back then they are following exactly the same roadmap Xbox used, same day releases are coming very soon.

In the end though PC gaming has become even more attractive than usual in recent years, while we worry if PlayStation will continue making consoles we know PC gaming will be around to as close as possible to forever.

If you buy something on Steam you have the confidence in knowing you will have access to it for decades to come, you will always be able to play that game no matter how many console generations past by.

@IonMagi but the PS5 SSD is quite special - raw data doesn't lie... Why you consistently lurk around Push Square waiting for an opportunity to say something negative about PlayStation whenever you see an opportunity?

You clearly don't like PlayStation - why are you here? Why do you feel the need to try to "attack" whenever you can? Genuine questions.

@MisterMist The SSD is pretty nice, but at the end of the day it's all marketing. The extra horse power that PC components have outperform the PS5 storage tech. And by the end of the year when Direct Storage launches Sony will probably stop competing on that front.

@Juanalf For me it's become hard to defend remaining on PlayStation when all its advantages are slowly being eroded away (exclusives, controller, online playerbase etc). I've held off on getting a PS5 because I knew something was iffy about the way they revealed their games. With the Nvidia leaks proving to be entirely accurate, I'll probably get an RTX 4080 at this point and leave PlayStation behind altogether; they need to provide some real reassurance of why I need a PS5 to win me back at this point.

@truerbluer The Dualsense has been supported on the PC since day 1. And the RTX 4080 will be the hardest GPU to get so good luck with that.

@Bismarck The DualSense is only supported as a generic controller, only a small number of games actually use the adaptive triggers and haptic feedback on PC and isn't standard yet, and can't be played wirelessly.

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Controller:DualSense#Games_with_adaptive_triggers_and_haptic_feedback

@truerbluer Games like Kena and Sifu don't support the Dualsense on PC just because the devs are lazy or incompetent.

@Titntin "Sit on the sofa, press a button and be playing a perfectly optomised game in less than a minute is a key console win, and I take it every time."

If what you say is true about your PC then you can brute force just about any game that's out right now and anything else for the next 5+ years - especially with more games incorporating DLSS and FSR. As for the part I quoted, Steam Big Picture & Remote Play does a real good job at that already, and with a 3090 rig you can max out anything out right now with or without upscaling. The lines between the convenience of a console and PC have blurred thanks a lot to Valve's efforts.

Unless you have a really slow home network, I can't see how what you said is a key console win. I love my PS4 and PS3, PS2, PS1 before it, but console haven't really had many key wins for a couple gens now, apart from the price to performance ratio of course. And yes, console games crash and have bugs too. Never had a game crash on a PS2 but have since the PS3 onward

@IonMagi Well, the fact that you can buy a third party M.2 SSD for your PS5 is proof that there's nothing special about it. But props to Sony and Xbox with how cost-efficient their consoles are for the market.

Returnal is perfect for PC. It will probably sell as much as Days Gone and HFW.

@ryanburnsred Yup. The only time I will adjust my game settings is when launching the game for the first time. After that, it's just plug and play. Playing RDR2 on PC with max settings is night and day compared to my PS4 Pro. It actually look like a remaster or even a remake with how much graphical improvement PC is capable of compared to console. But again when it comes to price to performance, nothing can beat consoles.

Great, please Bloodborne next (we can only hope).

@ryanburnsred

Yes, my PC can run pretty much anything, but there's a lot more to being a great games machine than just performance. Only game I played regularly on it was FH5 because the pop in @60hz on my series X was too noticeable for me. There are of course titles that need mouse and keyboard and I'd obviously prefer these on pc too, but I rarely play these. Oh - and I played cyberpunk on PC cause who doesn't want to see full RT?
I use a 48 inch LG C1 as my monitor, and because it has some spar inputs I also bought a second PS5 for it as I'd rather play that than pc when my wife is hogging the machine (She's got nearly 300 hours in HFW - how?)
Having spent years developing games, when I want to chill, I just want to pick up a controller and dive straight in. In theory you should be able to do this on PC, but in reality there's always another tweek needed or driver that's updated or some other reason to stop you actually just enjoying your game. The operating system barely leaves you alone! I guess I still associate games on a pc with work:)

If you love to tinker with tech and want to spend hours fine tuning to get the very best performance, then PC is clearly the way to get the best performance available, but mine cost £4.2K, so you would expect it.

With its decent 4k output, fantastic haptics on a brilliant controller and 3D audio with more point sources than any other rival system, not to mention some of the very best current gen titles, I think PS5 is very close to PC levels of performance, certainly more modest machines, and I much prefer to gamine there.

But we are all different and there's a lot to recommend for PC gamers. Especially if you are a competitive gamer, you can dial down the res and go for insane refresh rates which I'm reliably informed you youngsters can feel! For me, I barely notice anything above 60hz, so consoles are in a happy space for my gaming needs, and I will always want to sit on a sofa in front of a 65inch 4k proper HDR telly and load up great software to play in zero time and that's the win. It never happens on my PC and though I'm happy for anyone to play how they want, there's no question that for my needs the consoles are a far better bet, and that's not even accounting for the 'bang per buck' element where the PC is obliterated.
Nothing against PC's, and I certainly don't want to ruffle the feathers of anyone who's an ardent fan of PC gaming - respect - I just much prefer to play on console by choice.

Playstation exclusive you say? That is such a 2000s expression 🤣 Just stop with this nonsense already. We all know every so-called exclusive will end up on PC eventually. Still no reason to switch to PC as far as I'm concerned.

@Titntin when I was younger I definitely loved tweaking and tinkering on my PC, but as I get older I find myself preferring to do that kind of stuff on my car instead lol

So I've gotten pretty lazy when it comes to doing that stuff on PC, but even then I rarely do it at all these days. The only tweaking and tinkering I do now is with mods, and I'm sure you know how that goes when you put a new mod in and the game stops working and you spend hours troubleshooting..I'm getting tired of that too but sometimes I just can't help myself - at least for the moment. You're right the OS doesn't leave you alone, but that's a good thing because it updates a lot of stuff for you automatically. The only drivers I manually download and install now are graphics drivers, and that's because I don't always want the latest one and don't care to have GeForce Experience installed on my system. PC gaming is really streamlined compared to 10 years ago - never mind 20 years ago back in 2002 (crazy how time flies). I get where you're coming from though, and I know it all comes down to personal preference. I wasn't trying to do a platform war or anything like that but just letting you know that you can absolutely get a console-like experience on PC if you desire. Good talking with you. I love nerding out with other gamers every now and then

@ryanburnsred Thanks for your reply dude.
Yes I remember old computers extremely well as I worked for IBM around the time the PC was launched. DOS only back then, although we developed OS2 as a windowed environment before MS windows got in there! This was mid eighties though so I'm really giving my age away! I left IBM and took a big drop in wages to make games, my firsts titles were a 3d Racing game for the amiga (we copied Sega's virtual racer) and james pond 2 on the Sega game gear. 20 years later I stopped dev work to work with the homeless and I still do that, and I often wander at my sanity for doing so!
Still a huge gamer at heart and I always will be. Nice to reminisce at you - thanks

(PS I refuse to let Geforce on my system too - it took too many resources and wasn't doing anything useful! )

Wait now I'm so confused I thought they want people to buy to the PS5

For those that have the money, buying a PC is looking like the way to go versus buying a Series X and PS5.

After taxes and accessories, you’d spend 1200+ on those consoles anyway. Might as well get a PC.

@Bismarck Let's hope that DirectStorage (Smart Access Storage, RTX I/O.... etc) ends up being the real deal. If it is, PC gamers are in for a treat once it and PCIe gen 5 SSD release at the end of the year.

@clianvXAi yeah, I don't understand the current Playstation leadership's emphasis on cross generation releases and PC ports. Ignoring the importance of system selling console exclusives for the PS5 boggles my mind. I feel they are shooting themselves in the foot.

sweet il get it on steam and get a save state mod, i prefer playstation bringing their games to pc will be snapped up by a bigger audience.

This was confirmed ages ago through the nvidia leak.

Housemarque games coming to PC is nothing new but you all act so shocked

This is a really stupid move. Playstation 5 sales will be affected by it.
Why buy a PS5 when all games come to PC?

Nice, I await the patch to remove the roguelike parts of the game. I've no desire to "Git Gud" anymore. I have limited time in my week to enjoy my gaming time, so now I can see this interesting world and story through in a more manageable way.

That's the nice thing about gaming on PC even though I rarely do. Gamers like me can enjoy the game how we want, and everybody else can enjoy it the way the devs desired it to be.

Win/Win

@Bismarck

It could be because they're small studios as well. Kena already makes little use of the Dualsense from what I can recall. Plus, it's from a studio that originally created CG animation and Kena is their first stab at making a game. They've done a much better job than at of first time developers in my opinion.

@ryanburnsred "Never had a game crash on a PS2 but have since the PS3 onward".

Well, that's because they had to play test stuff before it went to the disc pressing factory.
Online machines with hard drives meant patches could be produced after the code was sent to put on disc but the situation with the PS4 onwards is just strange when you have Day 1 patches that are the same size as the entire disc contents.