PS Plus Extra, PS Plus Premium Now Live Across the USA

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps-plus/games/

Lists are up.

Reports are saying around 250 PS Now games were dropped without warning for this.

Just upgraded, very seamless. The amount of games is kind of overwhelming lol, probably wont even buy another game until whenever Ragnarok comes out!

A whole 1 new PS1 game Sony are really spoiling premium members! I have no idea how they have dropped the ball so bad on the PS1 and PSP games should have been an easy home run.

Oh wow. Please have trophies for this one and hopefully original RE2 and RE3 get put onto it too. premium plus is a must for me now especially if the original RE trilogy get trophies added

Just give me Suikoden II and Breath of Fire IV, Sony and we're good. Ape Escape and Resident Evil DE are some great add-ons

The ps4 and ps3 libraries are really good. Didn’t expect to see Ys 8 and 9 on there, tons of classic ps3 games that I’d enjoy playing. The ps2/ps1 library is pathetic though. 37 games total and 90% of them were already available. I’ll probably upgrade for the rest of my sub to try it out, then I’ll make the call whether to keep going next year based on how much the classic library improves.

I don't remember seeing Evil Genius 2 on the Asia lists - definitely looking forward to that one.

@Milktastrophe
But wasn’t PS Now dropped? I wasn’t aware it was still an ongoing service from which games could be dropped.

I assume Japan didnt get RE on PS2 because this is the uncut Version

@thefourfoldroot1 the new PS+ is a merger of old PS+ and Now. Most of the game catalog is just what was on Now.

Is Director’s Cut the one with the fart orchestra soundtrack?

The best list so far. Quite happy.

I don´t know about GP, but where´s SEGA?

It is STAGGERING how badly they have dropped the ball on the PS1 / PS2 classics selection.

Alundra, Arc the Lad, Legacy of Kain, Chrono Trigger, Cool Boarders, Legend of Dragoon, Dino Crisis, Metal Gear Solid, Mega Man, Parasite Eve, Silent Hill, Persona, Tomb Raider, Vagrant Story, Tekken, Xenogears...

Blows my mind how it just isn't ready.

It’s so weird. When looking to upgrade I can see the ps5/ps4 list, the ps2/ps1 list, the game trials list…but no ps3 list. So bizarre!

@Milktastrophe
But it’s not a merger is it, because clearly all the licensing needs to be agreed again, hence the dropped games. It seems to be advertised to players, and treated by publishers, as a completely new service.

Still waiting on my Plus/Now account to convert to Premium. Still telling me to upgrade even though my Playstation Now account expires in April 2023.

Man I really hope they'll add the original rdr to this list. It's the only ps3 game I haven't played and would love do so

Just had a look through the PS3 games not actually much I would want to play again only things I could see was Everybodys Golf World Tour, Puppeteer and the Ratchet Games. The way I have read it the PS1 games will be purchasable seperately anyone know what the prices for those games will be.

Not bad! I'm about to go download a ton of these!

Starting with:
The Council
Demon's Souls
Little Hope
Observer: System Redux
Shadow Warrior 3

@ThePizzaMule It is on the list, in the Premium tier

RIP the Killzone games

Seriously, make the ps3 games downloadable also, most of us don’t want to stream games, it’s just not as good an experience as just downloading a full game and playing it normally.

Seems they’ll just slowly rerelease the ps1 games i already have on my Vita.

If the library is the same for UK, I'll have plenty to get into.

Upgraded to Extra because I want to play Shadow Warrior 3 and Stray when it comes out so it’s already basically paid for itself. Plus a lot more games on here like a couple of Ys games (I was close to buying 8 on sale because I’ve never played an Ys game and wanted to try it out), Warhammer games, etc. I’m downloading games now so I can play this week since I have some time off before I start a new job next week. Time to add to the backlog that was already too big!

One thing they have to add asap is the add to library function. For now I have to wishlist games I wanna play because I don’t have enough space and that’s annoying.

It’d also be nice if they had a sort button for games that are leaving sooner than others. That way I can play those games first.

@Dislecksier there is Tekken 2 tbf, my favourite one.
But yes, release Dino Crisis and MGS.
They’re probably saving them for a slow month down the line, easy home run news articles.

This is not what was promised. Holy crap selection is bad

I'm not sure I'll need to buy another game for the next two years.

This is dire. I hope Sony get smoked for this, they need to learn a lesson.

No Sonic? Disappointing.

@Voltan oh cool, slipped my eyes!

Pretty sure this is not the whole list. On the PlayStation website the Premium section has many games that aren't listed here (especially PS3 ones, I believe), including Red Dead 1, inFamous 1 & 2 etc

edit: either I missed the other part of the post somehow or it was updated since - anyway, we good

Anyone compare this to the past psnow game list? I'm curious what the difference is.

It's also live in Canada. USA isn't the only country in the western world.

@ThePizzaMule I mean - it's on the list on the official website but not the one posted here (it's missing other games too)

edit: either it was updated or I missed the other list in the first place

Did they cap how much more they’ll charge for upgrade fee? I calculated $270 to upgrade my 4.5 years of plus, but they are only quoting $99 for plus, $149 for premium.

@thefourfoldroot1 The PS Blog has called it a merger since the initial announcement. "This June, we’re bringing together PlayStation Plus and PlayStation Now in an all-new PlayStation Plus subscription service"
https://blog.playstation.com/2022/03/29/all-new-playstation-plus-launches-in-june-with-700-games-and-more-value-than-ever/

hello, does it show when will third party games expire. RDR2 or AC Valhalla

I hope in Europe we will get around the same list. There is enough on there that i haven't played yet and i am interested in. So ill upgrade to extra for sure next week when it goes live here.

@Shepherd_Tallon I do believe I read about it working like that in Asia (not originally but they updated it to be capped)

@Rmg0731 maybe retro but this service is just starting out but other than that the list is great

@AK4tywill how is this dire lmao

Hold up...they got the Kai versions the Trails in the Sky trilogy? Did I read that correctly? I may have to upgrade...

@Shredderlovespizza you can download everything but ps3 games I believe

Cool.word up son

How do you upgrade its not showing for me

The picture on the PS Store for "The All-New PlayStation Plus" has The Last of Us Part 1 on it. This makes me wonder if this means that it will be part of PlayStation Plus.

@dark_knightmare2 I did it through the website. Go to PlayStation Plus then I clicked on the "Getting Stared" tab.

@albertodsd I don't think they'll announce very far in advance - they don't want the FOMO of any potential subscribers tempered by knowing game 'X' isn't being removed any time soon.

Probably just get a couple weeks notice like the 'leaving Game Pass this month' announcements.

The sheer amount of games is outrageous value for money. Absolutely crazy. 😋

Most countries didn't have ps now so it's a major win for Sony..the games list is a very good start.

I see some decent Idea Factory games like Death end request 1 and 2, can't go wrong with those!

@dark_knightmare2 Aside from a few high profile additions like AC Ragnarok, Demons Souls and Returnal, the selection is basically just a cut down PS Now catalogue (at twice the price), and the highest tier classic games total about 10 games. This isn't going to make a dent in Gamepass (yes, they are competing), and it's likley to piss off the most faithful Playstation gamers who opted for the highest tier only to get shafted out the gate.

@bindiana Honestly it's pretty pathetic, Sony have put in not even the minumum I expected from this part of the service.

@CrispyMango92 can I ask, how much did it cost to upgrade to extra? And I guess how long is left on your current subscription? Im in itelwsn. I have ps plus until February. Just wanna know roughly what I'm looking at to upgrade. Cheers.

Monkey island though. Winning!

Interested to see how Europe compares

@bindiana puppeteer is abysmal through streaming. I would advise spending the 28 quid and picking up a ps3 copy from CEX. Much better experience of this legendary game.

@Milktastrophe
Then their marketing is terrible because that is very misleading. Obviously it’s always been part of the terms for Now that games can leave at any time, so technically not untrue, but very poor wording.

@albertodsd RDR2 expires September 20th. AC Valhalla doesn't have an expiration date listed.

I’m assuming Silent Hill and the Sly Cooper collection aren’t on here so they can eventually be added and announced separately, which is pretty annoying. Mid tier looks great though and I’m excited to jump in.

@Korgon that would be amazing, but I did not see them on there and I looked through all the ps3 games. I knew it was too good to be true. Sadly no Trails games for the US, but we did get Ys 8 and 9 at least.

Those are 2 really long lists. Lots of games I didn't recognize but I've only been gaming on PlayStation since 1997.

I still think 3 tiers was 1 too many as I don't see enough difference between Extra and Premium and there isn't that much price difference either. PS Plus and PS Premium sounds good. Not PS Plus Premium, just PS Premium.

Having PS3 games streamable only also adds another level of complexity to the 3 tiers. Most of the games listed that I would want to play are on PS3 but I'm not paying to stream, even with 300/300 fiber.

Does PS+ still work the same? I'm still stuck w/ PS+ on my kids account. If I pay to upgrade his account to e,tra or premium can I still play all of the games on my and my other kids accounts or is gameplay li.it's to just the 1 account? We've never had Now.

My kids 1 year PS+ expires Black Friday. Whether or not we upgrade probably depends on what deals ate available. I've never paid over $30 for a year of PS+.

@killileahihoo I live in America so I paid in dollars. My plus sub ends April 27, 2023. Plus runs at $60 and plus extra runs at $100 so I should’ve paid $40 but since I’m a month and a half into my sub, I only paid $34 and some change. Not sure what country you’re in but you should be paying 33% less since you’re 8 months away from your sub ending. Hope this helps!

Notable absence of any Metal Gear games. Tragic.

Premium selection is terrible, they really dropped the ball on that. I wonder if they decided to skimp on that because of the upgrade to premium associated with NOW in hopes they'll beef that up over time and then hope people will renew it next year after they beef it up over time. If I hadn't gotten NOW for that upgrade I would have totally skipped premium as it's just not worth it between the PS3 being streaming only & the terrible lack of actual PSP, PS1, PS2 games that should have been here. Also if you look at the RPG genre which is my favorite there's definitely a big hole there. Feels like a lot of fluff selections.

It seems some of the classic games are not purchasable (Tekken 2, Mr. Driller, and RE Directors Cut).

@bpomber

As an American, I would like for us to get less attention in news articles in general.

We embarrass ourselves a lot.

I went ahead and upgraded to Extra. My main complaint is that they jumbled the Extra and Premium games together, so I have to scroll through a bunch of games I don't have access to while I'm browsing.

It’s not much of an upgrade over PS Now and yet it’s three times the price (if you were sensible and bought Now on sale and stacked) can’t say I’m impressed.

The classics are a absolute waste of time and shown the disrespect I expected from Sony

@AK4tywill dude game pass has had years and this is just plus and now combined like Jesus give Sony some time and downplaying the non retro list is funny because it’s a hell of a lot more than what you tried to name. It’s got Marvels GOTG, Ghost of Tsushima directors cut,NBA 2k22 to make a few high profile games plus tons more like it’s easily worth the money extra cost

@SplooshDmg Exactly where I’m at. If they put Shadow Hearts on this thing I’ll be in instantly. Until then I’m good.

@bpomber thanks it worked

No Silent Hill 2, no Xenogears, no sale,

@CrispyMango92 Yep it does indeed. Ireland. So I reckon for 8 or so months I should be paying 27 Euro or so. Thanks.

I hate to be "That guy" but there isn't much on that list that I haven't played tbh. I was hoping Sekiro would be there or any Dark Souls games. I know Demon is there which is great but was hoping for others to. Going by this list, I'm just not sold. I'll hold off for some months to see what changes.

I upgraded, the list is pretty good and has a lot of games I've yet to buy so I couldn't resist 😅

@Niktaw
Yeah I just checked again and they are gone. They were in the classics catalog on the official website. I could have sworn I saw them on the website. Shoot I should have taken a screenshot! Oh well maybe some day.

The list is simply insane. But it could have had hundreds more games available and people would still complain that it's bad because x game is not included.

You simply can't please unreasonable people.

Let us emulate PS3, add Drakenguard or however it's spelled, then we're talking.

I’ll upgrade to Plus Extra. There’s a number of PS4/PS5 games I was on the fence about that I want to try. Demon’s Souls being the big one.

Not enough PS1, PS2, or PSP games for me to upgrade to Premium. I can’t stream games on my network. Good enough for multiplayer but nowhere close to good enough for streaming games.

Well I can see why their wasn't much fan fare because theirs not much here. Besides a few good indie titles and one or two of Sonys first party games this is pretty much just a renamed PS Now.

And you've gotta love how Sony said "340+" classic titles and have used PS4 games that had PS3 versions as filler. Its also largely the same PS3 list with a bunch of new weird Japanese titles I can barely pronounce or have never heard of. Very disappointing for a relaunch of this service, and kind of sad when you compare it to GamePass, but we're always going to be on the losing end of this with MS's money.

Edit: The Japanese titles have been removed i see.

Pretty guaranteed Europe will get the same list which is great but kinda bummed they don't have the trails of cold steel games like Japan

Why can't I download some of the PS1 Classics I already have access to on PS3? My collection of over 30 PS1 Classics has Tekken 2, Jumping Flash, Oddworld, Syphon Filter and Wild Arms in it that should be available for download on PS4/5. Not the case. Only Syphon Filter, Wild Arms and Oddworld can be downloaded. I guess beggars can't be choosers but I do find it kind of odd that Tekken 2 and Jumping Flash are locked behind the premium service.

If you already bought a PS1 classic title like Resident Evil Director’s Cut on the PS3 digital store, I thought you would get a free download/upgrade to the PS5 version, even if you’re just a base level PS+ member.

Is there something I’m missing here?

@Ken_Kaniff those weird Japanese games aren't even on PS+ Premium in the US. I'm pretty sure Push Square is just trying to pass off the Japanese PS+ list as the US one instead of actually checking what's available here.

Way over 700 games this time for Premium, so Sony delivered what they advertised.

Looks like the PC app is currently broken. If you download the PS+ app from the PS+ page it downloads the old PS Now app with a new PS+ banner at the top, but PSN is inaccessible. I can see all the old PS Now library as well as the new PS+ library, but can’t play anything.

This is a pretty great list. I’m glad they added the Nathan Drake collection, I was about to buy it but now I don’t have to. My only complaint is that there are no Sega games, which means I can no longer play Sonic Adventure, Adventure 2, Unleashed, and Generations. I hope they do slight remasters (plus the fabled Adventure remake) so I can play these games again, especially natively instead of streaming.
EDIT: Also the PS1 and PSP list is garbage. All the other games make up for it but I wish they’d launched with only the first two tiers and added Premium later on, once they got more companies to sign on to put their PS1 and PSP games on the service.

This is only the start people, expecting it from Day One to be the same as Game Pass is quite laughable.

I reckon Europe will end up with even more games, despite the number of studios based in the US, really Europe is the home of PlayStation.

😉

Not even close to gamepass

Yes !, legendary Balan is there, gonna subscribe for 10 yrs 😊

@Dislecksier and Dynasty Warriors 1-5, Twisted Metal, Mana Khemia, Front Mission, Armored Core, Kessen, literally any Gundam game…

Not a single classic game I was hoping for. Not a one.

Add Metal Gear Solid and MGS Snake Eater you COWARDS.

That's a reaaaally strong start. The service will keep improving over time and the "missing" games could be added.

Upgraded to Deluxe ( for 46 USD up until Sept 2023, then 77UDS/year), it's the same as Premium without the streamed games, which is not available is my country.

@Milktastrophe Yea, it looks like your right. Just checked and none on those are there.

I'm really happy with the selection. I don't care too much for the retro games so this looks really, really good to me.

@AK4tywill was gamepass perfect when it released?

Given Down Under is among the territories only getting PS Plus Deluxe namely minus the ps3 streaming titles,(whether thats a bad thing given the streaming limitations,is another matter),the severe LACK of ps1/PS2/psp games on offer for the most expensive tier is a terrible advertisement to upgrade!🙄😕
Suikoden 1 & 2,Blood Omen Legacy of Kain, RE 2 & 3,Breath of Fire series,classic FF Origin games that had 1&2 or 4,5,6 to buy on ps3 via ps1 emulation? Alundra, Adventures of Lomax,Colony Wars series, Wing Commander 3 & 4?
Ps2: Ratchet & Clank games which can be played locally rather than streamed,Sly Cooper series, God of War 1 & 2,NFS Underground 1& 2, SSX Series, GTA LCS/VCS,Capcom's Maximo series or Classics Collections?
And that's just a few off the top of my head! For something supposedly in the works for such a long-time,there really doesn't appear to be many classics for what's supposed to be the main selling point of the top tier level!😔

Just a little over $33 for me to upgrade, I'll be doing that.

People praising this probably didn’t have PS Now to realize that literally hundreds of games were removed and not nearly as many added to replace them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PlayStationNow/comments/vb9eyy/200_games_confirmed_to_be_leaving_us_ps_now_today/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

I’m happy with some of the additions but it’s not all what it’s cracked up to be as far as a bigger better version of their subscription services.

Really sad especially that all of the Sly Cooper games are gone. The games that left the service aren’t getting any attention.

So where are the 700+ games exactly? or the 400+ PS4/PS5 games?

Yeah... apparently it was a lie when it was said if you owned the games digitally on PS3/PSP that you'd have them now. I have RE DC digitally from PSP still on my PSV yet I don't have access for the PS Plus version. BS.

I went ahead and upgraded to Premium for 27 bucks. It resets in late November. By then I’ll be able to judge if I want to keep the classic games or not. If they poorly support it, I’ll bump it down to Extra.

So far I like the list on Extra. It pretty much solves the gaming drought for me between now and Modern Warfare II.

I’m at work but I’ve got Death Stranding Director’s Cut downloading with Guardians of the Galaxy set to install next. . Already had it download Ape Escape so when I get home I can see how the emulation is on PS1 games. I’ve read that these are NTSC copies of the games for us North Americans. If that’s the case thank God.

Here’s the email I received:

The new PlayStation Plus is here
Lacerz, PlayStation Plus now offers three membership plans to choose from: PlayStation Plus Essential, PlayStation Plus Extra, and PlayStation Plus Premium.

PlayStation Now has now merged with PlayStation Plus and you have been migrated to an equivalent membership.

Here are your new PlayStation Plus membership details:
You're part of PlayStation Plus Premium
Your next payment will be $59.99 on 2027-04-04
After this your payments will be every 12 months

For information on your subscription and to make changes to your membership visit Subscriptions Management

Your PlayStation Plus Premium plan provides all the benefits from the PlayStation Plus Essential and Extra plans, including:
Monthly downloadable games
Exclusive discounts and content
Cloud storage for saved games
Online multiplayer access
Share Play
Game Help (PS5 only)
The PlayStation Plus Collection (PS5 only)
Access to the Game catalog**, which contains up to 400 PS4 and PS5 games to download, including:
Assassin’s Creed Valhalla
Red Dead Redemption 2
Demon’s Souls
NBA 2K22
Marvel’s Spider-Man
Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales
You also get the following PlayStation Plus Premium benefits:
Up to 340** additional games in the Classics catalog:
Play selected PS3 games via cloud streaming**, including:
Rain
Ratchet & Clank: A Crack in Time
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2
Enjoy games from the original PlayStation, PS2 and PSP generations – select titles available to both stream*** and download – including:
Tekken 2
Jak 3
Borderlands The Handsome Collection
Cloud streaming*** access to most PS4 titles in the Game catalog*
Time-limited game trials for selected new titles including:
Horizon Forbidden West
Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection
Tiny Tina’s Wonderland

More information and cancellation
The terms that govern your subscription will change at launch to reflect the changes in the service. The terms that will apply from 13 June are the PlayStation Plus Usage Terms: see here.

For further details about the upcoming changes and their impact on your subscription, visit the FAQ page.

If you don’t want your subscription to continue beyond your next payment date you can cancel at any time. To cancel, follow the steps here.

@DemonSurfer777

“Up to”

They’ve always said up to in their blog posts about the service.

It’s fancy legal language. It basically means that they hope to have that many games, but it keeps them from getting accused of false advertising if at any one time they aren’t at that specified number.

@Robocod

I’m pretty disappointed by the classics line up. I know they are just getting started but they could have at least had a good selection of their biggest 1st party PS1, PS2, and PSP titles ready to go at launch. Something like 20 well known first party games from across all three systems.

That said, I think the Extra tier’s offerings are pretty good right now. There’s more PS5 titles than I expected.

Oh, Dark Sector was on of my first ps3 games. A shame the excellent Siren 2 is not here. Blood Curse is great though.

Its the same as ps now only more expensive

@OrtadragoonX its absolutely trash

@DemonSurfer777 they lied

@DemonSurfer777 check the full list on the us site, there are actually 700+ titles listed

@Ryany I still have PS Now since EU, theres a lot of titles i cant find on PS Now that are in the list. Could you tell me how to find them, or are you the one lying?

@Ryany

The PS Plus Extra games aren’t trash. It’s a strong selection.

The Premium Classic games, yeah they aren’t worth writing home about.

But at least it looks like NA got NTSC versions of the PS1 games. So at least we didn’t get screwed over like Europe did with all the PAL versions.

I thought games we already owned would be accessible without upgrading but I am being informed I need to pay to upgrade.

Is this eventually being corrected?

I'm probably overthinking this, but isn't Y School Heroes: Bustlin’ School Life only in Japan? It's both on the official PlayStation list of PS Plus games and on this list, but I can't find it anywhere on the store.

Someone knows why 428: Shibuya Scramble is listed as an Extra game, but It's not available as part of any tier in NA and LATAM? Are there other games in this situation?

@EdwardElric I wouldn't be shocked if the list was not correct in order to make that 700 plus games seem true lol as it at least doesn't feel like 700 games, maybe it's just due to a lot of fluff.

@daveofduncan This isn't competing with Gamepass five years ago, it's competing with it now.

@dark_knightmare2 I really don't feel like I'm downplaying the Retro list. How many games have they added? From what I can tell most of them were part of PS Now already.

You're right that there are more new high profile additions than I mentioned (Guardians is a great one), but I was only listing examples. The thing is these games still aren't particularly new and they're competing with day 1 launches. I don't mind if Sony want to skip that, but they have to go all in on every other aspect, and so far it doesn't seem like they're doing that. (I will say the one exception I've seen - Stray - is a doozy!)

I do think it's unacceptable that the highest tier is launching with so few classic games, though the mid tier seems to be a better value proposition.

I've been a Playstation player all my life and want them to succeed (I pre-emptively subscribed to the highest tier of plus for the next three years), but I don't think this is how you launch a new brand if you're trying to avoid obscurity and correct the mistakes of PS Now. They easily had the power to do more and give themselves a fighting chance, so it's frustrating that they dropped the ball in so many places.

@WizzNL it's the same. They took away lots of games & added some new ones but overall there's not much difference. No day one exclusives like gamepass

@OrtadragoonX you can't download ps3 games & there's no day one exclusives. Those are the only reasons I'd ever be interested

Well well well looks like I was right about the classics no new PS2 games very few ps1 / psp games less PS3 games than there is on ps now , I guess this still isn't the complete list & there will be hundreds more games when it launches in Europe in a week or so lol

@OrtadragoonX Good to hear that they're NTSC, hopefully the same happens for Europe.

So they actually said the games would be updated every 2 weeks. Does this mean by the time Europe gets it we will already have 2 updates?

Does anyone see the availability timer for games like AC Valhalla ?
I want to know when games will leave

@dougphisig Yeah I would agree. Still a good list all things considered but there are some games that no one will play haha

oof, the new PS Plus app looks straightforward at first, but they completely screwed up the Premium & Extra tags for most of the games. (I'm on PS4 in the US.) games like Ghost of Tsushima and Detroit: Become Human are supposed to be available on the Extra tier but they're all listed as "Premium". It also gives you an option to upgrade to play the game, but the only option for Ghost and Detroit are to upgrade Premium. I was pretty hopeful for this launch, but it looks like another classic disaster in the making

ohhh they literally flipped the Premium and Extra tiers in the app. insanity

I'm just clicking around in the app and this thing is a total mess. Some games are correctly labeled, most are wrong. Some are correctly labeled when you click through to the PS Store, others are still wrong. As I click back to the app, they seem to be updating some of these in real time as the tags are changing. Wild stuff

@EdwardElric @BTK99 Push Square just put the Japan game list here instead of bothering to check what's actually available in NA. A ton of games listed on this page aren't actually available to us.

@Shepherd_Tallon @AgentGuapo yes, there's an upper cap on upgrading, so if you stack enough you can get years of free premium. This was confirmed last week in the Asian regions. Push Square didn't report on it though, probably because it's not a negative story for the new PS+.

@Ryany That's not the same and the overall quality went up a lot with the games they added. Especially in the Extra tier.
And no Day 1 for 1st party is what Sony said long ago, so that's not really a surprise or lying.

@WizzNL i've looked in several places.. i still don't see anywhere near 700.. you have a link to this list? I'm genuinely just curious so i can see what's worth playing that i haven't already as i've played an awful lot from PS1 right up to PS5 including PSP and Vita.. thanks

@DemonSurfer777 you can either use the link in the above article that leads to the US PlayStation page and count all games listed for Extra and Premium, or here's a link to a vid from an US Plus user who makes a count and gives some more info:

https://youtu.be/l60qrgeO0t4

According to him its even over 750+.

@Milktastrophe no, shibuya scramble is actually on the Sony list too, It's in the American and Brazilian PS Blog and Store

That's an impressive library. Hopefully the EU/UK version is similar

@BTK99 it doesn't show as included in the app, that's what I mean by they didn't check what's actually available. Whether the US/Brazil blog says it's included I'm not sure, but a lot of the games listed here are Japan only, this list is copied from the Japan store.

@Jimez I'm hoping for this as well. That's some list of games!

@WizzNL yeah mystic said he counted almost 800 but he’s pretty sure the stuff above 740 are just multiple versions of certain games.

@BartoxTharglod The thing is Microsoft has plenty of other Day One games from third parties too. So you can’t say “how can you care about day one games when you don’t have any?”. The Show 22 from Sony itself was one of them.

I’m not saying Sony needs to have Day One games and I actually think today is a better start than some here are giving them credit for. But GamePass day one games are more than just MS games. There are others coming down the pike too from big publishers like Team Ninja.

Like I said though. This is better than I expected it to be. Only issue right now is not enough to justify between Extra and Premium.

@Dislecksier if you were expecting any of those games at launch you are crazy lol. none one was expecting those games.

@OrtadragoonX Thus far it feels like there's been little engineering/Q.A. thrown into the retro division or there'd surely be a bigger lineup of games. I fear another ps2 classics on ps4 situation with a handful of titles & then it gets quietly dropped altogether.
Yes,things do take time,but not a great advertisement with so few on offer,& zero communication eg: "Which of these retro games you you like to see on ps plus deluxe/premium?" that show their actively working on more titles.

Sorry if this has been asked already but anyone know if there’s actually a difference between the PS4 and PS5 versions of the PS1 games?

I can't find Afrika anywhere on the Canadian store. Is it only available in the US?

@Robocod

I’ve been saying it feels like Sony’s original plan with Project Spartacus was to offer only PS4 and PS5 games. I think the retro games were a last minute edition to give the package an “edge” of some kind and justify a third tier.

I’m remaining hopeful but I ultimately agree with you. Considering how primitive the PS1 emulation is (it’s not bad as the games do run smoothly, but it’s extremely basic) and the lack of any changes to the PS2 games (which aren’t so good and never have been on the emulation side) I feel like Sony is spending as little money as possible on it.

I’m predicting I will switch to Extra after this expires barring some major surprises.

I hope they put SOCOM eventually it was one my favorite ps2 games of all time! 🥺

Upgraded to Premium. First two games I played were Syphon Filter (which I bought years ago off the PS3 store and like promised, it was there before I upgraded) and Darkstalkers. Have to say Syphon Filter actually got a decent visual overhaul and though it was only streaming, Darkstalkers ran much better than I expected. I have a good internet but even still I get concerned about streaming, it hasn't always been smooth but so far so good.

@twitchtvpat all of those games were purchasable on the PS3, and half of them were on the PS Classic, so it seems like a no-brainer to me.

Does anyone know if dirt 4 was on PS now in USA? I'm playing through it and hoping it doesn't get removed so I can get the plat. Thanks.

So many complaining because the library doesn't have their favourite game/s. I would imagine this list will expand hugely over the coming months. The legal hoops Sony must need to go through to draw up contracts with rights holders and publishers must be a complete nightmare for each and every game you see.

Just out of curiosity, I've noticed that you can purchase some of the games on the store...if I bought one or two, would I be able to play them without joining the service?

how is there not an ability to make a list/queue like on Netflix? I see that you can add to Wishlist but I'd like a separate list just for PS Plus service games. Especially for streaming PS3 titles, it would be nice to have a list since they cannot be downloaded.

@thefourfoldroot1
Because the contracts are for PSNow not PSPlus. You can't transfer contracts, you have to renegotiate them.

NBA 2K22 PS4 is not free to download even though, I have premium access? Can you find out what happen, as you have it on the list above?

How will I upgrade? I have just purchased ps plus in the uk for £6.99 will have have to pay another £13 for premium in a few days? It's so confusing