Assassin's Creed Finally Goes to Japan as Ubisoft Takes on Ghost of Tsushima

Enjoyed ghost of Tsunami much more than I have any assassin's creed game....I actually was interested in the story...never have been with assassin's creed

I think it’s a bit disrespectful of Japanese history to pit this against Ghost of Tsushima. They take place in vastly different time periods for starters. You wouldn’t compare a game set in WW2 with one set in the French Revolution and they took place closer together.

Singleplayer potential killed by Multiplayer ambitions... pitty

They used some very interesting language when talking about this section. They specifically said Red is the next entry for the RPG AC games. Perhaps they are going to try and do a bit of both classic and RPG AC that all come together under Infinity? They even teased the return of AC multiplayer! I'm so happy right now!

@djlard Did you not listen to the video? The multiplayer modes are standalone experiences like the ones included in the older games you lot bang on about constantly.

@nessisonett Completely agree with you.

I honestly don't see the connection between this and Tsushima. And comparing these two just feels wrong.

The main thing that has prevented me from playing recent Ubisoft RPGs is that they are set in the Assassin's Creed universe. They clearly have a talented development team despite perceived flaws in recent titles. Why can't they leave AC behind and come up with something original?! Saying that, I can't wait for the next Witcher saga, CD returning to their strong suit.

@nessisonett @rawzeku I get where you're coming from, but you don't see the connection between two open world action games set in Japan that feature some kind of stealth-infused gameplay?

Granted, could be different time periods etc., but even in Red's brief teaser trailer, we're greeted with a rising sun and distinctly Japanese architecture. It's fair to say both games are going for a very similar tone / aesthetic.

@shogunrok thats like saying gta and rdr2 are the same as both are crime/action and set in usa!

No Immortals sequel announcement? Disappoint

@stvevan GTA and RDR2 are set in the same country but they're completely different settings that aim for completely different things.

'Feudal Japan' is essentially shorthand for a setting with shogun, samurai, and ninjas when it comes to entertainment. Japan obviously has a very rich and storied history, but the simple truth is that Red and Ghost will be compared regardless of the time between their respective settings.

@djlard The multiplayer will be separated, like The Last of Us PT II is doing.

The comparision I make between this and GoT is the gameplay. GoT has taken the gameplay a good leap forward while AC remains the same while taking baby steps forward. If Sucker Punch was to make a Viking game then I'd make a comparison with Valhalla for the same thing.

Still looking forward to playing them all anyway. I just hope Red is like the main games. The art style in that video makes it seem a bit more like Chronicles

I'm sure it will be a great game. My love for this series increased a huge amount in the recent years. Odyssey brought me back, and now I'm commited to play all games of the franchise. So far, so good.

Well, I'm excited to see more from both games. We'll see how they pan out.

I'm very interested in which age of "feudal" Japan will be set. My dream would be the Sengoku Jidai but I don't think that's going to happen.

@freddquadros

Odyssey was so freaking good. Haters gonna hate but it was amazing.

@nessisonett your comparison is flawed. It’s more like comparing a game where you play as a medieval knight in 8th century France vs. a game where you play a medieval knight in 11th century France. Yeah, they’re pretty similar.

@nessisonett based Liam writing

Do wonder how it'll actually pan out with this many in development though. A shorter ac again for once 🤔🤔

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@Cherip-the-Ripper What's that supposed to mean?

@AdamNovice hexe... witchhunt? That is interesting

N.i.c.e. i always wanted a assassins creed in japan.word up son

glad they’re bringing AC multiplayer back . it’s been nothing but single player for too long , need some variety for other gamers

@nomither6 becauae there just isnt enough mp games around, oh crap i took the bait eh.

@Smiffy01 how many more battle royales can one take ? one thing single player purist have , is variety multiplayer is in dire need of some flavor .

@StylesT Agree, the biggest problem with modern AC games is the story. That and a lack of authenticity for the specific time period they’re trying to recreate. Giving characters current-day personalities and attitudes really breaks the immersion. Horizon Forbidden West fell foul of this trend as well sadly.

If anything, this should be striving to compare itself to Tenchu, more than GoT... course, if they're going the arpg route, then probably will be inevitable!
Still, I'd rather play as a straight up ninja assassin, as Ghosts already illustrated that ninja techniques were frowned upon by samurai- so why the need to scrounge about for upgradable weapons and armour when you should be able to kill quickly, efficiently and quietly with 1 blow. (Or poison 😉)

Here's the thing, I would like to see Assassin's Creed even ATTEMPT to hold a candle to the storytelling of Ghost of Tsushima. Almost every single encounter in GoT tied back into the overarching narrative that you were becoming the Ghost. It was beautiful. The ending left me speechless and in tears. I played it a year ago and I still find myself thinking about it.

Nearly done with my 2nd playthrough of Tsushima, this time on PS5 with the DLC. One of my top games of all time. No way Assassins Crap will touch it.

Well something to look forward in 2024. Having a new AC on the list is already a good start.

I thought infinity was going to be a present -day hub where you can choose which past time to play, so basically they're stopping the boring present day stuff in the actual games. If it's just a launcher, then what's the point? I already have a perfectly capable launcher called my PS5's home screen.

Might be the 1st ass creed i buy since the pirate one

Hopefully this and Mirage will keep both sides of the fence happy.

Personally I love them all, but I can understand why some dislike the direction the RPG series took them. Good to see they are apparently splitting the franchise.

@invictus4000 alternate take, enjoy them both for what they are. I personally found Tsushima just as repetitive as any AC game, but that's just me.

I'm all for it. I'm a sucker for anything based on Japanese history. Ghost of Tsushima, Sekiro, Nioh 1&2 and now an AC game set in Japan will be a great addition

@djlard I feel like you are either trolling or didn’t bother to read what this is.

There is a real chance that this Japan based Assassin's Creed announced and the sequel for Ghost of Tsushima could be launched close together. Can you imagine the debates that this would sprawl? Could be fun lol.

i don't give a dam if assassins creed is in space, this is live service fee to pay rubbish and i wouldn't touch this game out of principle, if i wanted to play a assassin's creed in a Japanese setting i would actually play ghost of tsushima, at least that game is of free will and open world without having to pay a penny or grind excessively, it's ironic that MSM is glorifying this dead series when we all know it's below in the gutter like all their other franchises like far cry e.t.c

I've had my fill of Ubisoft from their recent games with acknowledgment that i would never play these games again after that, but some people will just never let them die in dignity lol

@Lup odyssey haters are entitled people full of hate anyway, their opinion is trash

so ghost of tsushima is their next target to steal ideas from after witcher and god of war

@AdamNovice
Announcing Clint Hocking as the lead for Hexe, makes me think that the third team is the Watch Dogs team. Which suggests that franchise is being sidelined. I wonder how many (if any) will be disappointed, if true.

@J2theEzzo: This game having gameplay that heavily draws from Tenchu would make me very interested.😉

It's going to have to be on its best form to be anywhere near as good as GoT. That game was excellent.

So from what I understand, mirage is going back to its roots and red and hex are now part of this infinity project?
I would actually pay extra to have the games separate from the infinity launcher, either way even though Japan is one of my favourite locations for a game I'm excited to see what hex would be like.

"The series has received multiple awards and nominations, including several Game of the Year awards. It is commercially successful, selling over 200 million copies as of September 2022, becoming Ubisoft's best-selling franchise and one of the highest selling video game franchises of all time."

Yeah totally in the gutter...

@Coolmusic It's been so long overdue!

I'm excited for the setting, yet a little worried about what a "shinobi fantasy" can mean for Ubisoft...

@MemSec they said when Legion was released that they were kind of shelving the franchise after this third episode.

@Gladio
The two franchises are very similar to one another. There was speculation at the beginning, that they will be folded into one. Even Ubisoft supported the notion that they exist in the same universe, with small easter eggs. Maybe the reason for Watch Dogs not succeeding, was this similarity.

@nessisonett Japan only has two time periods, Ninjas and Cyberpunk.

Oh boy. This is going to be the equivalent of me trying to sing an Elvis song, or really any song for that matter.

@MemSec I don't think they found what to do with this license, really.
The first one was very dark, with a somewhat psychopathic character. The second was maybe "too fun". Too much emphasis on social trends, followers, and so one. The last one was really interesting, though, with this cinxept of playing a "cell", and not a specific character. I really thought they were onto something with this one.

I'm actually down for 2 assassins creed games and for me thats a pretty big thing..i played and loved ac 1 and 2 but got bored to tears with 3 and didnt touch another untill odyssey (which i only bought because it was stupidly cheap on amazon) and it was that good i bought origins and valhalla..comparing assassins creed to ghost is a gross injustice to both games..ghosts story telling,graphics and atmosphere was just incredibly sublime as was the combat system and my only gripe was i wished it was longer..assassins creed and i'm only comparing the last 3 were incredible in terms of scope and the sheer level of verticality. The graphics and sound scape cant match ghost but are almost as good and i much prefer the weapon customisation and the rpg elements in the creed games..any serious gamer will acknowledge both franchises as epic games which more than compliment themselves..

@huyi you are aware you dont have to purchase anything in the assassins creed games? Thats right you are not required to buy any of the dlc's or cosmetics unless you want to. They dont detract from the game at all so i'm at a loss as to why you think they make you buy them? You use the term "free will" but seem to have no idea on what that means. So my question is this..which assassins creed games make you pay for content that somehow makes the games worse for those who exercise their "free will" and choose not to buy into the micro transactions? Ghost had paid for dlc and was much more controversal in its upgrade path..

I didn't expect so many people to be pitting AC Red vs Ghost of Tsushima. Some prefer Ghost, some prefer AC. I personally like them both. And if Ghost 2 and AC Red end up releasing next to each other well that's just double the fun!

So this will be the more open world RPG style game (which it always had to be) Feudal Japan hardly had sprawling, built up cities that suit the old style assassin's creed gameplay, so I'm not surprised on that front (and always wondered how AC could work in Japan, while people clamoured for it endlessly without much thought of how it would work, before they made the new style of game, anyway) But I don't really know if I'm that excited for it, because even though I really liked the modern AC games, I've already explored this kind of environment with GoT, and I know quite resoundingly that AC's strength isn't in its storytelling, so I'm not sure what new experience I'll be getting from Codename Red. Whereas previously I'd not explored Egyptian, Greek and Saxon/Viking history in any open world games so it was a really nice experience.

Hopefully there is some really great moments in history it draws upon that fit in with this game, as history is it's strong suit, but I feel like Japan was historically quite shut off from the rest of the world, so not sure how it fits in with the overall AC story arc which really benefits from the connection between countries and organisations spreading globally. I'm happy to be proven wrong as it will be a game I buy and hopefully enjoy.

I'd probably be more into a continuation of what Aelfred had in store for the world. As Kassandra warned of someone referred to as "The Great" bringing in a new era of despair or something like that in Odyssey and we only get a taste of what this could mean in Valhalla. As the Order of the Ancients ends and the Templars begin

@nessisonett
Good point, Do we know when this game takes place? If it's set during the 'warring states' era, then it could be set 200-300 years after GOT. And presumably on the Japanese mainland too, not a relatively small island.

@get2sammyb Any word on the location if the other 2? Europe?
I only read the articles and didn’t watch anything.

@Korgon Plus it's a bit churlish to pit them together when we barely know anything about the game. On the plus side, 9th century Baghdad, (presumably) medieval Japan and witch trial (1600's?) era (what is now) Germany could be fun. I'm praying they keep the history tour though.

I don't understand how people don't get the AC vs Ghost of Tsushima comparison. They're clearly very similar styles of games - as @ShogunRok says, they're both 'open world action games set in Japan that feature some kind of stealth-infused gameplay'.

It's like saying you couldn't compare Battlefield 2042 to CoD: Vanguard because one's set in the near future and one was set in WW2 - but you'd obviously compare them because they're very similar games.

As for being disrespectful to Japanese history - Ghost of Tsushima is historically inaccurate in everything from story to weaponry to armour, etc, so I wouldn't be too worried on that front lol.

And seeing as though someone specifically mentioned him - Liam's writing is excellent, I'm not sure what that's about...

I used to love AC (first games) but GOT is a complete other level imo (atmosphere was stellar). Ubisoft will probably copy some things from that area.

@Northern_munkey I've never talked about the microtransactions and armour sets, but the unethical approach is still injust, what happens when they make the game to the point that the only way to progress is by paying
excessive amounts of money? It no longer becomes a fair balanced situation but becomes a manipulation to make you spend and grind, THAT is the issue I have with these games which will never stop bleeding you dry! These game journalist's are there to make money, they don't care about morals or how much money and injust these Devs or publisher make to profit from, I've wanted to become a journalist for gaming for a while but when I see how bad the
current situation is I want nothing more to do with it, I'm not going to force myself to change how I feel with money out of principle! the fact remains the exploitation is all out in the public and out of control, this "announcement" is nothing but edgy and encouragement to make liable people to spend money as much as it sounds creative, no people who care about a single player experience will ever think of this as normal imo we all know this is live grind service garbage and nothing else, it doesn't matter if there is new ideas like assassin's creed in dam space, the situation will never change, they are all in it together when it comes to money and I don't give a dam about any of this crap, I'm a gamer for 40+ years and know what it's like to play a game to completion apart from using gambling mechanics to bleed you dry of every penny to make a profit, it's sad that younger kids will never experience what it's like to play a game till completion without paying a penny, conditioning and brainwashing is their agenda for money, I think I should leave this post at that, I expect push square to delete my post regardless because they are loosing sponsors but the fact remains and even with these toxic sites I think the old gaming habits will still be alive for years to come, drain money live service is only temporary until another cancer comes along to drain more profit out of children and most vunrable, nothing will change when they are not challenged, I'm disgusted with gaming as a whole because of what I grew up with but I will not bend the knee for any gaming corps and their disgust! no matter how money they have!

Looking forward to an Assassin’s Creed game is like looking forward to a list of chores. I don’t think I’ve ever been able to finish one of these games.

@huyi the assassins creed games dont make you pay to progress..there is nothing in the games that requires you buy a certain cosmetic to progress the story. If we are talking about add on quests then they are optional purchases and if you feel as if you are being shoe horned into buying them then thats on you and your weak constitution and nothing to do with having your free will taken from you..when talking about gambling mechanics we can all lay that little doozey on E.A.'s doorstep with their disgusting loot boxes but again you can choose not to purchase and they dont lock out any game content,they just make it easier to unlock items you normally have to spend hours grinding for..good luck if you ever do become a games journo 👍

@freddquadros And GoT.

@Northern_munkey Every full priced game that has a special tab for DLC is a big joke AKA Ubisoft games.

@Flaming_Kaiser yeah i agree with you..i'm not a massive fan of dlc,mt's or loot boxes (especially loot boxes) but nobodys holding a gun to anybodys head..nobodys "free will" is being taken away from them..if you cant refrain from purchasing them then why complain?

@Northern_munkey I heard so many terrible stories where people with addictions cant play their favorite games because its in there. The choice to gamble isnt really a choice can you install the game without gambling no its not a option. Is there a easy way to get money back after a kid spend 2K with a credit card as long as these options are not build in the games then the options should not be available in games.

@Northern_munkey Because neurodivergent peole have problems with impulse control, and 15-20% of the world or 30-40% of the US are neurodivergent.

You don't have to hold a gun to people's head to make them do things that negatively impact their lives.

EA has famously been researching how to mentally manipulate players in to spending more money, and disabled gamers have been having a much harder look at how games are designed to understand how it affects them in recent years.

@Richnj @Flaming_Kaiser so whats the answer then ladies? Do you want all dlc,mt's,loot boxes and expansions banning outright and therefore ruining the game for those who can make there own decisions? Sounds a little bit totalitarian to me and that would create a scenario without the option to exercise "free will." I dont think this is a discussion where there will ever be an agreeable outcome..

Are people still thinking loot boxes are still a thing? Ubisoft were forced to ditch them years ago.

The AC games being live service have been good if you take your hate-tinted glasses off. The Japan game won't be like GoT. Ghost was about a samurai who had to learn some new tricks where I expect AC to be about a pure Ninja. Something like Origin where you're already in place/trained and less like AC2 or Valhalla where you have talent but are gradually introduced to that life after the prologue - like GoT.

I think it will be a good hold over until we get Tenchu back.

@Pusher2021 I played AC since the original and I think it's funny how people act like they were amazing. You need to go back and replay them to see how flawed they were.

Also Altair > Ezio

@Northern_munkey "therefore ruining the game"

Would it though?. Would not being able to buy 150 different skins for your character ruin the game for you?. Would not being able to endless buy in game points to roll a dice on what kind of one time use item you get, ruin your game?

"they just make it easier to unlock items you normally have to spend hours grinding for"

Who the hell do you think chose to make that grind so grindy?, it wasn't God. It's not naturally like that. It was purposely designed like that by the devs. And they make it worse to encourage you to spend more money on "optional purchases" with your "free will". (I love that you keep placing it quotation marks BTW, it's very apt).

"Sounds a little bit totalitarian to me"

So are seatbelt laws. They take away your option to exercise your "free will" not to wear one. But it's to stop "free thinkers" from making things unneccesarily worse.

"so whats the answer then ladies? Do you want all dlc,mt's,loot boxes and expansions banning outright"

MTs and Lootboxes, yes. Especially lootboxes that can be purchased with MTs. They create an envirnoment that forms really bad habits and can lead a person down destructive paths. We banned things like advertising smoking on TV for the same reasons.

Expansions are absolutely fine. A piece of additional, supplimental, substantial content is fine. Things like Episodes can extend the experience in meaningful ways. It's a one off purchase that comes with a (more or less) complete experience. It's barely a step away from buying a game.

DLCs should be regulated. Again, DLC like expansions are fine. DLCs are better than MTs because it's a one time purchase. The endless repurchasing nature of MTs is part of the problem, but the "micro" is the other part.

Horse Armour was once laughed at, and now we have people fighting tooth and nail for their "free will" to keep buying it. It's not good content. 100s of hats and skins, and emotes, is not good content.

Free will be damned, at this point it's a quality control issue, and endless cr*p, whether it's games on the eshop or skins on fortnite, is just bad content, and I don't see why any platform owner would want their platforms brought down by such content (Besides the billions of dollars they make through taking advantage of its customers).

@Richnj ok 👍

@Flaming_Kaiser I like Game of Thrones, the new show is amazing!! Joking aside, I'm playing Ghost of Tsushima actualy, got it in PS+ Extra, beautiful game!!

@Lup To this day, my favorite Assassin's Creed game and one of the best of the PS4 generation! I have fondly memories with Kassandra's journey!!

@JohntheRaptor I think you're missing the point here imo. Gameplay elements always age in time & it has nothing to do with replaying the first AC. When the AC games started they had something magical. I don't feel that anymore, it's more of the same, a lot of clutter/filler imo. I do agree, gameplay wise it has been improved but most Ubisoft games feel the same, too familiar to be special on their own. I used to love Ubisoft but they just use the same sauce for decades. Some people like to play AC 245 ... I'm not one of them (nothing against people who like them either). I liked the viking setting at first (loved the TV series) but I got tired of it after a while. The settings always attract me but after 10 hours in ...
And I can not put my finger on it why I liked GOT so much better (besides atmosphere/music).
Maybe the AC series became too much of having a RPG feel for me?

@JohntheRaptor

A man of culture, I see.

I would love if they take the historical route and we don't control a "ninja" or shinobi. Shinobi weren't killers. There aren't any records of a shinobi actually killing anyone important.

@Lup there's plenty of evidence it's just hard to tell. No one wanted to be on record for using them like that, and the ninja successfully would not leave a ninja calling card saying a ninja did it. I understand there definite records of failed attempts, which means there were probably successful ones that don't have hard evidence due to their successful nature.
so it fits within reasonable historical accuracy. You have no way of really knowing whether doing it either way would be more accurate.

@Jaz007

Do you have some kind of source? I find this topic really fascinating and would love to read/listen about that.

It's definitely second hand, but it sounded pretty reasonable. I might see if I can dig up more as it's an interesting subject. There was a book he mentioned going off of.
https://qr.ae/pvOlyN (specific post)
https://www.quora.com/Has-there-been-any-recorded-assassination-by-a-ninja (general link)

@Northern_munkey What the F### have expansions and DLC to do with it nothing wrong with those. I dont like MT but if done without shame and right it can be done right.

And gambling and lootboxes are something that make a game better? Such nonsense and terrible examples. Costumes can be unlocked through MT without gambling.

Teams can be made by unlocking so everyone has the same chance so no more pay to win. Gambling and lootboxes are not needed and are just there to line the pockets of CEO's and investors with no shame.

Make it illegal i wont lose any sleep about it or make games with these things in it AO for gambling.

@Flaming_Kaiser jesus are you still going on about this..i've had my say on the matter and that other guy and yourself have more than made yourself heard..time to move on dont you think?

@Northern_munkey If you make stupid examples then i will gladly go on about it.

@Flaming_Kaiser ok look at least richnj made some valid points about people that suffer from some form of mental illness are vunerable to these practices prevailent in video games and i myself suffer with bouts of depression (not something i generally bring attention to) so maybe on hindsight i could have made myself a bit clearer and been more respectful and less flippant but you are just being a bit snarky and argumentative for the sake of it..i gave no stupid examples and i never said loot boxes or gambling were ever good and i'll never support them. To me the term "dlc" encapsulates everything that you can download to enhance the gaming experience i.e. (or example if you prefer) expansions,cosmetics,weapon packs,characters or just about anything you can think off that i may have missed so everything i listed was relevant. Now could you please tell me of any game that has ever actually prevented you from completing a game by making you buy some form of micro transaction or other form of dlc to permit you access to the rest of the game not including titles that release episodically please..no? Because there are none..that was my original question to huyi who couldnt name one either...now come on bud i know you are not stupid and i usually respect and agree with what you say on these pages (mostly) and i wont resort to insulting you either so lets just leave this now and move on..

@Northern_munkey DLC is different from lootboxes and gambling. A politician i cant understand the understand the difference
thats why are behind decade legislation.

By putting all DLC under one umbrella you can evade legislation and make all developer look like a bad guy even if its DLC where you know what you get.

There are also enough of examples where they clearly say how to abuse the system and misuse/abuse it to take to target people with addiction.

If legislation will make a difference between DLC, expansion, MT and gambling and lootboxes then that will make parents aware of the things in a game.

Legislation should be there to protect the weakest of the society thats how is see it.

@Flaming_Kaiser ok lets continue our little verbal to and fro..first off i'm not quite sure how we got onto loot boxes and gambling (i think you and richnj first injected them into the narrative) and i think they are something that need taking out of the industry and thanks for telling me they are different to dlc's because i wasnt really sure..now back to my original question which i presented to huyi and that is (drum roll please...) what game has ever prevented the player progressing the story by insisting you purchase some form of dlc to give you access to the rest of the game? Now i can clearly see you want to discuss politicians and legislation but please try and answer the question without getting hot under the collar and introducing something else thats not relevant..

@Flaming_Kaiser sorry i did mention loot boxes first but i was trying to cover all ingame mechanics that developers have introduced to upset the balance of nature..my bad i'll hold my hands up to that one 👍

@Northern_munkey I dont want to be a grandpa but i know these things are bad for all of us.

I agree its a choice but make it clear on the case or discription for the parents or people with addictions.

So they can stay clear and that might mean raising the minimum age on some games with these mechanics.

@Flaming_Kaiser again this is not what i was discussing originally so answer the question please..which game prevents anybody from progressing the story by making you have to purchase a micro transaction first? I'm not interested in loot boxes or gambling mechanics so forget about them and just answer my question..you cant can you?