Ah, the ongoing Activision-Blizzard acquisition: a Twitter-style fanboy spat being played out publicly by two ginormous corporations – it’s all fun and games in the video game business, isn’t it? Microsoft’s unprecedented near-$70 billion buyout is unsurprisingly under scrutiny, with UK regulators casting a particularly keen eye over the agreement. Sony, predictably, is playing up the importance of franchises like Call of Duty in an effort to get the deal stopped, while the team in green is acting like it’s barely worth a tenth of the sum it’s willing to stump up for it.
This is all posturing from businessmen and lawyers in an attempt to get the outcome they desire, of course. Sony’s business will ultimately be hit hard by the potential loss of Call of Duty games, while Microsoft evidently wants to vacuum up as much of the industry as it possibly can while CEO Satya Nadella still has his chequebook open. Ultimately, regulators need to decide just how much competition will be affected.
In a statement to Games Industry.biz, in response to comments made by the Competition and Markets Authority, Microsoft effectively believes Sony is being a baby: “The suggestion that the incumbent market leader, with clear and enduring market power, could be foreclosed by the third largest provider as a result of losing access to one title is not credible.” The CMA has argued that its Activision-Blizzard buyout could “impair Sony’s ability to compete”.
Microsoft went one step further, suggesting that if every Call of Duty gamer on PlayStation switched to Xbox, “the PlayStation gamer base would remaining significantly larger than Xbox”. Of course, it failed to back up that hypothesis with any data. It concluded: “While Sony may not welcome increased competition, it has the ability to adapt and compete. Gamers will ultimately benefit from this increased competition and choice.”
To be fair, the Redmond firm has reiterated multiple times that it will continue to release Call of Duty on PlayStation platforms, although Sony has taken issue with the company’s comments. Earlier in the year, bigwig Jim Ryan went public with a statement suggesting Microsoft had only committed to release Call of Duty on PlayStation for “three more years”, a deal he described as “inadequate”.
Ultimately, this story is going to run and run; we can’t see either side backing down, and both will continue to present their position from the weakest perspective possible. From our point of view, we’re not convinced any of the current consolidation that’s occurring is good for the industry, but the genie is out of the bottle now. Assuming this Activision-Blizzard deal does get the go-ahead, it may be “buy or die” for Sony moving forwards.
[source gamesindustry.biz]
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Jim Ryan went public with a statement suggesting Microsoft had only committed to release Call of Duty on PlayStation for “three more years”, a deal he described as “inadequate”
It was a offering to have cod exactly the same on Xbox and ps without any extras on the Xbox side that's what he said wasn't long enough to
Microsoft before; "we don't really consider Sony our competition anymore"
Microsoft now; "Sony's too big. This is the only way can compete"
Bah. Lawyers.
Sony know exactly what way this deal will go. They're just buying as much time as they can to put their own plans in place. They want to get as many years out of CoD as they can once the buyout goes through, and hopefully by the time it goes exclusive they'll have other properties in place to cushion the impact.
It's all gamesmanship at this point from both sides.
The more we hear from Sony about this, the more I'm convinced they are either in talks with a Japanese publisher, or they're going to get in to bed with EA and push Battlefield hard.
Fully expecting MS to go all in on the consumer choice line from here on. As if any of them give af.
@Enuo 😂😂I hadn't considered that. Fair observation.
They don’t care about PlayStation or Xbox, they are trying to get an early monopoly on gaming subscription services. Trying to confuse the discussion with ideas about plastic boxes is deliberate of course, but very transparent.
If we take this to the logical conclusion though, then MS actually have far more plastic boxes in peoples hands because Gamepass can be streamed to TVs, phones, PC etc.
I'm still a bit gutted about Bethesda tbh. Just want a new Fallout game on PS.
PlayStation's highest number of reported active users was 114 million during the peak of Covid 19 in Q1/Q3 FY20.
Xbox reported 100 million in January 2021.
Not sure this statement from Xbox works out.
Wondering why Microsoft is adding console sales together instead of the actual active users they both report.
Also, ignoring the fact that if they all switched from PlayStation. That's a lot of PS Plus subscriber losses, and then new subscribers gained on Xbox Gold /Gamepass. Subs are one of the concerns raised by the CMA
https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/pdf/21q4_supplement.pdf
https://hothardware.com/news/xbox-live-surpasses-100-million-active-monthly-users-gamepass
“impair Sony’s ability to compete”
Just like it impairs Nintendo's ability to compete! Is so sad that they went under though and filed for bankruptcy, everyday I cry myself to sleep because I miss Nintendo 😢
@Juanalf
Nintendo aren’t competing with Sony or MS, they went a different way a long time ago, as I’m sure you probably know.
That’s irrelevant though, as Nintendo don’t really have a similar subscription service, which is the pertinent market here.
I just don’t get this argument that call of duty is a “game,” it’s an empire. Microsoft will have control of over 100 million players. Monopoly is the end game folks…
I think MS would just kill CoD if it goes exclusive. Bet you Killzone would've been more popular if it was multiplat. This isn't a SP game, shooters are best being multiplat. MS risk spending so much and killing their own investment, people will just switch to Overwatch or something.
Go ahead, make call of duty exclusive to microsoft. That means i can get a free trial to game pass and play it free day 1 on pc. Till i get bored of it.
Microsoft is just so…. Words can’t describe lol
@TheArt they have said they have no Intention of taking cod away from ps players
why are they ratioing themselves
@Juanalf
Nintendo is doing just fine and they haven't gone anywhere. What are you crying yourself to sleep about?
Would they still be bigger? Maybe. The thing is though unless your Nintendo 3rd party is the lifeblood of a console. Exclusives are the cherry on top.
COD sells 20million+ pretty much every year. You make that exclusive, some people will be forced to jump.
I do believe the deal should go through. MS made an offer- Activision accepted. The way Phil Spencer & co have been misleading people has been anything but professional.
Yes or No to COD’s eventual exclusivity. It’s that easy.
@Fight_Teza_Fight they hav said time and time again publicly and even in the complaint to the cma
https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1580125273252855808?t=myu0gswlhyGvXfqwttLNvA&s=19
So what these regulators and Jim are basically more or less saying is that Nintendo can successfully sell consoles based strictly off of their exclusives but Sony just can't do that.
I guess this is an admission that Nintendo's characters and games are more memorable and important therefore they have the power to carry the console unlike Sony and Microsoft.
@Dr_Luigi
You are not wrong about this. Microsoft has been taken to court for antitrust and other competition practices so often it's almost a meme at this point.
@PlayStationGamer3919 - True, though I don't much care for First-Person Shooters, I've always had a soft spot for Resistance, especially how much potential it has as a series, and if it's one thing Insomniac Games excels at, it's creating a large array of fun weaponry, and that gives Insomniac Games a huge advantage if they were to create an FPS Multiplayer Game (But it absolutely has to a Single-Player Offline Story Mode).
Sony says Xbox having exclusive COD content will impact consumers console choice and is unfair to Sony. (Something microsoft promised will not happen)
Sony currently pays for exclusive COD content.
What a stupid argument.
@Somebody
And on Xbox360 Xbox had deal with Activision for COD with extra stuff.
Guess people ignore that to only push agenda against Sony.
Don't really care if it gets approved or not, but if it doesn't, I'm not going to lie it would be kind of funny just to see the reactions.
@Somebody They are both making stupid statements to try make the other look bad. This one by Sony amused me for this exact reason 🤣
@Shepherd_Tallon for me personally, I haven’t brought a cod game since WW2. But if Sony and EA came out with a reskinned Battlefield 3, I’m so down…
@grapetrap I cry because they went under after they stopped getting COD you don't remember!? these regulators are telling me that if you don't have COD you might aswell be wet horse manure on a sunny day 🤷
@Somebody it’s called posturing, trust me they know it’s a stupid argument. But that point will now also have to be debated by lawyers..net outcome- another 8hours in the fight to create a cod beater
Sony actually made this complaint to the CMA:
“According to SIE, gamers may expect that CoD on Xbox will include extra content“
While having a contract they paid millions of dollars for which gives them the same thing 🤣
@Martsmall You sure you've been following the news...
Frankly Sony needs some competition they are becoming too money grabbing and complacent this generation
@Neverwild it's not about who has done it in the past. It is sony suddenly saying that it is unfair. If it is so unfair that a government needs to stop it, why has it been going on for over a decade? The majority of which Sony itself has been doing it.
It looks even dumber when considering that it is the market leader saying the practice they are currently doing would be harmful to the market leader if one of the lesser gaming companies stole that practice from them.
@TheArt yeh have you ?
https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1580125273252855808?t=szM1_mvUM6qf2D23KDLG2w&s=19
That's what has been filed with the CMA so it's official and they have said time and time again they will keep cod on ps
@Somebody - MS/Xbox also payed Activision for Exclusive Content on the Xbox 360, so it's fine when MS/Xbox does it, but wrong when Sony/PlayStation does it?
And let's not forget the $100 Million Dollar deal MS/Xbox made for Timed Exclusivity of Rise of the Tomb Raider JUST because Xbox needed something to compete with Uncharted 4.
This is getting ridiculous but I have to agree with MS here. COD only sells a little over twenty million each release and for arguments sake let’s say half the player base is on ps I promise you all those players aren’t leaving ps or heck even buying an Xbox. I don’t even see half of that half leaving the ps ecosystem.
@JustPlainLoco it's not about if xbox ever did it. Xbox is not saying the practice is unfair, neither am I.
The company currently doing it (sony) is saying the practice is harmful to competition.
It's an absurd take from Sony.
Sony just needs to revive Killzone, SOCOM or Resistance (my personal choice) and / or create an entirely new military IP they can fill the eventual gap with. I have nothing but supreme confidence in Sony’s ability to create new, interesting and fun IP’s based on their decades long history of already doing so.
@Martsmall They have also said that they will keep COD on PS for at least 3 years- which is the reason why Sony have an issue with the sale.
Honestly, why doesn't Microsoft just become a 3rd party with a service? I don't understand what they gain from trying to split the market.
Exit the hardware business. Get your dinky service on PS and Nintendo. Win.
This deal is done. It's all over bar the shouting.
If anything I'm excited to see how PlayStation counters this. They'll have to get creative, and it gives me hope that those GAAS games they're cooking might be something worth waiting for.
@DETfaninATL "I have nothing but supreme confidence in Sony’s ability to create new, interesting and fun IP’s based on their decades long history of already doing so." Agreed. Exactly the point I was about to finish my comment on.
@Enuo history has shown us that MS will say and do absolutely anything to make themselves seem like a decent and moral company. We’re the good guys, honest… 👀
people really dont understand this at all.
no resistance or socom would compete with cod for years and years.
@Martsmall - Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Xbox make similar promises with Bethesda's Games? First they said Bethesda Games would continue to appear on PlayStation, and then they said "Um actually, decisions will be made by a 'game-by-game' basis", to flat out "Going forward Bethesda Games will be Exclusive to Xbox & PC".
Hard to trust MS/Xbox's word when they've made similar promises only to go back on their word once the acquisition has gone through.
@Fight_Teza_Fight no ,they said they work keep parity but Jim said no it's not long enough ( no exclusive dlc /modes etc on Xbox ) please read the tweet and the official cma complaint
https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1580125273252855808?t=szM1_mvUM6qf2D23KDLG2w&s=19
If the deal goes through, and COD does eventually become exclusive, Sony needs to stop whimping out and bring back Killzone in a big way. Bring all the previous games onto the PS5 in a remastered collection and then make Killzone 5. Make it one big amazing, bombastic war game that'll push boundaries on console. Make the multiplayer incredible so that it can actually compete with COD in some capacity.
A man can dream can't he 😅
I find it baffling that because PS is market leaders that this now gives Xbox the right to take hundreds of games away from Playstation gamers. That's not competition, that's pure market manipulation. Xbox acting like this will have zero impact and zero consequences in the gaming world all because PS is current market leaders is the funniest thing I've read all year
If Microsoft gets COD/Activision then it's game over for PlayStation(well next-gen the PlayStation console will never sell over 100+ Million anymore) & if Microsoft doesn't get COD/Activision it's game over for Xbox because no one will have any reason to get Gamepass which is all Microsoft wants then they will put the price up for Gamepass & then their Loyal Fans will regret supporting such a evil company. Oh well.
Sick of hearing about cod. I prefer mahi mahi.
If this is the only path for me to get a new resistance or killzone, then let Microsoft have it.
@Juanalf
Sorry I missed your sarcasm... it's early where I am...lol...
@Martsmall Yes we know all that but I mean c'mon that's why this fight in court is happening in the first place, it's obvious they're going to go all out exclusive with games from those buyouts. People don't trust their word.
@JustPlainLoco no they said that they would honour the existing agreements and Future Bethesda games will be on Xbox, PC, and "other consoles on a case by case basis." Please show me where he has publicly said no more games on playstation? They might b releasing a game on ps none of us know
@TheArt they might not trust em but they do want the money from the sales as from a business point of view it makes no sense to lose so much money
Edit : and let's be honest keeping cod on ps and that money from the ps players goes towards buying more game pass content , the competitor will b paying for your own stuff it makes business sense and shareholders happy ,you get the best of both worlds exclusive cod dlc on game pass keeping them happy and more ppl taking up game pass and Sony players paying to play cod keeping them happy
@Balie3000 The thing is, they've bought the talent to do this so it's not impossible.
The only issue is that it would take years to do it. Activision push almost all of their studios on to CoD development at times so they can get a new game every year or two. Sony couldn't do the same. So they would need to spend a long time working on something that could compete.
I'm legit more concerned about crash bandicoot.
It will kill me if the new Crash game is xbox exclusive
@elvisfan1 same here. I’d gladly trade Activision-blizzard for Bethesda…
@KaijuKaiser Totally understand and agree.
But at the end of the day, they bought it, they should be able to do whatever they want with it (if deal is approved). It's certainly going to be bad for sony in short run long run what have you, but that's exactly why they bought it.
@NateGoesLive me too but I can see crash/spyro going to switch as well.
Isn't it funny how Phil "Gamer" Spencer initially continued his "Gaming for all" spiel he ran with after the Zenimax purchase to now Satya & their lawyers running with "poor little 2 trillion indie Microsoft is 3rd or 4th behind big bad Sony & us making little old COD exclusive is needed for competition!"🙄
Except rather than actually try compete in more recent times they're buying up 3rd party publishers & IP's therein to stop them being on their competition...whilst also pushing the narrative that timed exclusives from Sony's end are more evil & anti gamer than their permanently taking them off the table!
Their aims with Gamepass is less about being pro gamer as much as it is the longer term goals pushing live services & renting games over buying them.
For the XB cheer squad thinking they've pro gamer just remember the increasing fun you have reinstalling windows & not being forced to create an online Microsoft account & switch off their spyware just to use your PC...they are not your friend.
My current mind is beginning to think that a PS Showcase this year is needed more than ever right now to give us a glimpse as to what's coming next year and 2024. Put some deals together and give Extra and Premium some time on the showcase which is massively needed imo along with some juicy unannounced games coming next year and 2024 and PSVR2. I dunno though maybe they don't have enough ready right now that warrents a showcase. Maybe they're waiting for a far superior showcase next summer and for now we just getting some really decent State of Plays instead. I do really wanna see a lot more focus on Extra and Premium in these next shows or SoPs, like give it some proper screentime
@Carl-G - I mean the PS1 & PS2 sold over 100 Million Units, and I don't think COD had much to do with that since it was still in it's infancy at the time, just saying.
I'm really starting to think this damned acquisition is the reason there's no Playstation Showcase this year. There's plenty that could be shown in a Playstation Showcase but it could work in Microsoft's favour regarding the optics of Sony's fight against this acquisition.
Meanwhile both Sony and Microsoft being very quiet on the game announcements front give the impression to the regulators that both companies are desperate for their preferred outcome to become reality.
@Kairu there are also the rights to Overwatch, Diablo, Warcraft, StarCraft, Hearthstone, and Candy Crush on the table. Overwatch 2 and Diablo IV would still be on PlayStation presumably, but Overwatch 3 (or more likely any spin-off games) and a Diablo 5? Probably not.
I find it very unwise that Sony doesn't keep hammering it home this isn't only about Call of Duty and the Activision-Blizzard deal does not exist in a vacuum. Microsoft bought another major publisher two years ago and intends to keep those games exclusive, it seems. So, it's not about losing Call of Duty only - it's about losing Fallout, Doom, Elder Scrolls, Wolfenstein, etc. AND Call of Duty.
How smart of Microsoft to neglect to mention they also bought Bethesda and Activision-Blizzard makes so many popular titles...
@Yaycandy Rich
@Kairu Activision is 40 years old and has a wealth of IP beyond COD that is game changing for Microsoft and gamepass. If that catalogue is all made available to subscribers, that is an unfathomable amount of value to Microsoft, and content to players.
CoD is obviously the one most in the public eye, but titles like Crash, Tony Hawk, Spyro, Tenchu, warcraft etc all have considerable pull, whilst the older stuff will fuel nostalgia for many gamers and encourage them to subscribe to game pass where they may have been reluctant previously (similar to Bethesda and the studios which sit beneath it)
Also massive value in gaining access to so many experienced developers in one swoop could be very valuable in helping microsoft actually start launching xbox game studio titles on a regular basis.
There's only one possible way for Sony to fight this; by creating their own title that will crush COD under its furry paw and rid the world of the Microsoft threat once and for all.
I'm of course talking about the reveal of the game that the whole world has been waiting for: Tokyo Jungle 2.
@Perturbator wont happen. be realistic and it wont.
@Robocod 100%. The people cheering this on because Sony also purchases studios are only showing that it’s really about politics and wanting their world-controlling corporation to win. If they cared about people being able to play games everywhere then they’d be tweeting at Daddy Phil to put a stop to this.
Once this goes through it’ll be about 35 IP, some of which were once PS exclusives, that Microsoft bought up to take away from Playstation. My guess is Xbox plan on buying any publisher that refuses to put their games on Gamepass. They can afford to buy literally all of them, so I wonder who’s next.
there is only one thing sony could do and that is buy EA. you then deal with Microsoft. they couldnt afford to lose the sports games.
Pretty sure British law has regulations in fair competition which would mean that the ms deal will be rejected. What that means for the rest of the world I dunno.
I agree w Microsoft saying that consumers would have better access
@MrGilly69 well, there could be a divestiture where Microsoft and Activision-Blizzard agree to stop doing business in the UK, then they could close the acquisition. But that would be insane for companies of this size because it would mean billions in lost revenue every year, laying off all UK employees, moving offices, etc.
There are probably other ways it can go through, but divestiture is the most obvious to me. I just googled this by the way. I really have no idea what I’m talking about here and could be totally wrong.
Sony should just make their own. Call of Shooty.
@Robocod comment of the day perfectly said
Both sides are being babies about this whole situation.
The tantrums and hypocrisy from Sony and Jim is getting pathetic at this point. Also love them complaining about anti-competitive practices that they themselves engage in with timed/exclusive content on a game incentivizing one version of a game on a different console over theirs.
Why should Sony care about Call Of Duty?
There are better games on the PS4 and PS5.
@Tecinthebrain it's an admission that Sony players have more diverse interests. If Sony releases a Kratos tennis game, Sony fans won't immediately buy it, like Nintendo fans do with Mario tennis and other mediocre games.
@Sakisa apples to oranges.
@KnightRider1982 because sales. Better or not doesn't matter at the end of the day if the average gamer isn't interested in it.
I've always looked at this war and both companies as
Microsoft has to buy already made developers or games. They buy there way to the top.
I.e Bethesda, Activision, Tomb Raider sequel exclusive, and many more I cant think of.
I mean since xbox, they have only had the same core first party games created for them. Halo, Gears, Forza. Even to the point that when the developers didn't want to make these games (halo and Gears). They bought, incredibly talented developers with unique ideas to only put them on these games and thats what they do now. Nothing else. Its such a waste.
Playstation to me has always bought talent or invested in new studios or long time partner studios for new and unique games. They've never bought teams to carry on the work already established franchise, because the developer didn't want to carry on.
I.e Naughty Dog developed Crashbandicot and was exclusive to playstation and they bought them and gave them creative freedom to make original games. Guriella games made a couple of gameboy games but merged and made 1 game before being bought. Same goes for many others of their exclusive first party line up.
So for me this is just Microsoft being Microsoft, 0 creativity just aload of money to throw at tried and tested developers with already a franchise to milk dry.
Bro Console (Xbox) vs artsy Console (Playstation).
@Martsmall its very unlikely, they say that mumbo jumbo to allow deals to go through. Its not case hy case basis either.
Any brand new ip from Bethesda will be xbox and pc only. We already have this with starfield, so that shows straight off the bat Bethesda is gone.
Doom will probably be exclusive aswel, the sale numbers arent massive for the game so making xbox home of the fps genre i can see happening.
Fallout and elder scrolls are the questionable ones. But it isn't a case by case basis.
I see existing franchises being made available everywhere but anything new exclusive
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@Fight_Teza_Fight Anti monopoly laws are there for a reason and I think this deal should be banned, especially when combined with buying Bethesda. This deal would be terrible for gamers and it being blocked would be a major victory.
Nonsense, half the Xbox playerbase already own a PS5, pulling numbers from thin air.
@Bez87 even at new IPS only they haven't stopped all games coming to ps , doom /Dishonored/fallout so it maybe not game by game but they haven't stopped all Bethesda, the person I was replying to said I quote from that post
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"Um actually, decisions will be made by a 'game-by-game' basis", to flat out "Going forward Bethesda Games will be Exclusive to Xbox & PC".
if it's just new IPS that aren't , which was my original point , the poster saying that the have said no more no one knows unless Microsoft what the plans for the future are
Edit :reading that back to myself came off as I wasn't replying to you sort of thing ,that wasn't my intention at all and I apologize if u thought that too when u read it
Sony are being really annoying and hypocritical throughout this.
Also, the player base they're talking about is PlayStation vs Xbox not Sony vs Microsoft. Yes both gaming businesses are propped up by their parent companies but that doesn't change the fact that PlayStation's market share far outweighs Xbox.
@Shepherd_Tallon Agreed. Defintely a long term investment plan. But Sony would have time to build this up. COD will still be on the platform for a while.
@Balie3000 Yeah this is my thinking too. They'll want it on PlayStation for as long as possible while they work things out and get other projects going, but I feel like they'll have the time.
In a perfect world it wouldn't be happening, but this deal isn't what kills PlayStation.
@WillMerfi It still affects you and what does MS but next? This is bad for the industry even if you don’t care about COD, which I don’t.
So now its Microsoft who are crying and throwing a tantrum 🤔
Sony are being hypocritical with their comments and Microsoft are lying with their comments and doing a lot of word play.
@WillMerfi I think if this goes through other mergers won’t look like as much of a problem. I think much much more damage will be done if it doesn’t get stopped here. MS will have wasted a lot of money on this if it doesn’t go through. I do miss precious Sony too, but is a bad way to get it back.
Lots of comments from both sides on the issue. The fact of the matter is Jim Ryan is a cry baby hypocrite. He is anti-gamer/consumer and wants to milk the PS customer out of as much money as possibly. Losing the exclusive content advantage on COD is all about the billions not going into Sony's coffers. The behind the scenes sneaky deals to keep content and games off other platforms, timed exclusives, upcharges for remasters of games, new games costing a whopping $70 and increasing the price of the console just add to this notion, among many other things.
What perplexes me is why so many loyal PS fans buy into this nonsense. "What Sony does is different because Sony buys the smaller studios and cultivates, grooms and loves them. Microsoft just wants to buy everyone because they are a trillion dollar company and this acquisition is different because it is huge. They have no games and that is the reason why they are buying everyone. It is not fair. It is not good for gaming."
The Sony arrogance is just unbearable. Let's face it. Microsoft has a vision and is on the cusp of revolutionizing gaming. Sony and Jimbo are complaining because they have to work harder now instead of using their position as market leader to manipulate their sheep. And I say this as a person lucky enough to own all three consoles. All three are great in their own ways.
@Martsmall not at all im here for a debate or/and general discussion and put my own opinion on how I see things. Not to insult you or others, we all have opinions and see things differently or the same.
Like you said we actually have no idea really what the future will bring.
We have 0 knowledge if doom and any other already big franchise will be exclusive or not. Only time will tell
@Bez87 gd glad u didnt take it that way
@naruball Most of Nintendo's games use the IP effectively to make a really good game. Mario Tennis is a great game. Nintendo's IP is more versatile than Sony's. Sony have tried and failed to shoehorn their franchises into games that literally copy the blueprint of Nintendo games. Little Big Planet Karting. PlayStation All-stars. Let alone the PS Move being a complete Wii Remote rip off.
Microsoft is certainly downplaying the fact they snatched up a publisher already, are trying to buy the largest publisher currently, and can afford to keep buying more. With each purchase, Sony's revenue decreases and Microsoft's increases.
Maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal if the other major competitors in gaming, Sony and Nintendo, did not rely on gaming revenue for survival, unlike Microsoft, and the business model that generates that revenue Microsoft is trying to destroy with brute force.
@__jamiie
That’s the case with Microsoft, not with Sony.
The PlayStation division props up Sony Corp. as a whole.
It’s the only division that is constantly in the green. Every other division is either breaking even or losing money.
@TheCollector316 Nonsense. Take your precious Sony blinders off. Sony, since entering the console space, has always tried to destroy competition. The only difference is they have been sneaky about it. Now they may have to work a little harder.
These rat races aren't my biz, but I'm honestly with Microsoft on this one. For all their hardware limitations and policy oddities, the PlayStation family are still a legitimate bonanza of versatile gaming experiences for those who can make use of them (which, going by PS4 sales alone, is quite a crowd), including a lineup of own projects. If some audiences were to be lost for want of CoD and literal lack of anything to hook them on the current and past gen hardware... are they even a worthwhile market slice to cling to in the long run? Especially now that the bulk of multiplayer kids seem to be more into freemium BRs these days anyway? And for PS+ online baits, even not counting its recent additional incentives, there will always be EA stuff.😏
And the era of the 360 ended 10 years ago, @Neverwild. So whilst Xbox DID do it (10 years ago), Sony are CURRENTLY doing it. There is a difference. The kind of practice that Sony are currently undertaking is what has made them the market leader by some stretch, for a couple of decades now...
Sony should just let Microsoft buy these companies, then just buy out all the developers from them, and create a new Call of Duty game, called Maul of Booty, or something...
@Fiendish-Beaver
So it is okej that Microsoft has done it but not Sony?
The Lies of P(hil)
@TheCollector316 That's the most irritating part of this, Microsoft positioning themselves as the feisty person taking on the giants, while they are actually far larger themselves.
If Sony are big enough to 'evolve and adapt', then microsoft are certainly big enough to make their own successful games instead of using brute force on franchises that the people they are trying to take them away from helped to grow.
@Balosi
You are exactly right. They are just continuing to buy their popularity.
Microsoft wants to be on top of Sony and Nintendo they just won’t tell it to us Consumers and that’s it.
@OrtadragoonX You've proven the point that PlayStation is far bigger than Xbox.
@Jaz007 Well then you better find the monopoly. Show me that level that this even comes close to that measurement. Because there isn't one here. The combined XBox+ABK is still smaller in revenue then PS, as a percentage of the industry smaller then Sony. And if this falls through should any Sony move now automatically be called in to concern for being a monopoly themselves? As for MS we can talk monopoly if they buy EA, Take-Two, Embracer, Tencent and after al that MS are making a play for PS. Then we can talk monopoly. (all that would be just about 50% of the industry) I bet even then Nintendo won't care and just move along at their own pace.
BTW. Neither of these console makers are anywhere in the vicinity of a monopoly on any level with respect to the gaming industry. Competition still exists. No one (including Sony) is stopped from making games, buying studios, making deals or expanding their own subscription service to be more competitive. Not EA. Take Two, small developers, big devs, etc. Hence why everyone when questioned except Sony all said they were fine with the deal. The concern of regulators is not that Sony will remain number one or worry they may lose a few dollars in revenue or if Game Pass may be successful if Sony is keeps not willing to compete there. Their concern is if there is competition. And again, every major player (besides Sony) agreed there would be competition as there is now.
That wasn't what I said, though, was it @Neverwild? The point still stands that Sony are currently the ones doing this, not Xbox.
What lies would those be, @UltimateOtaku91? Statements have been made regarding what will happen once the acquisition goes through, and up until that happens, and then something occurs that contradicts what has been said, no lie has been told. I'll admit, your comment was kind of clever, but the assertion is incorrect as of this moment. Not believing (or liking) what someone says, is not the same as that person having lied...
"So now its Microsoft who are crying and throwing a tantrum"
So, am I to take it that Microsoft are not entitled to respond to what has been said both against them and the acquisition, @UltimateOtaku91, and that any response is them both crying and throwing a tantrum?
Am I also to take it that if you respond to this comment, you will be crying and throwing a tantrum? If you could explain the difference, I would be grateful...
@Fiendish-Beaver any time sony have made a statement to the CMA I see laods of people saying sony are throwing a tantrum or jim crying ryan etc, yet xbox are doing the same now by moaning about sony.
But by that reasoning, @UltimateOtaku91, it's okay to say something that isn't true, simply because someone else has done so?
Sony's attempts to prevent the acquisition going through are legitimate, even if the arguments they are using are stretching the truth or completely hypocritical. Sony don't want the deal to go through, not out of the kindness of their hearts, or to protect gamers (on whatever platform they may play on), they are attempting to do so, so as to protect their own market dominance. They want to keep adding to their player-base because that is how they make money (more money that any other gaming company). And that is totally legitimate; making money is the reason they exist. So them making statements to these agencies, is not crying or throwing a tantrum, it's simply a legitimate effort to stop the deal so that they can continue to make vast sums of money. Xbox responding is equally legitimate, and not crying or throwing a tantrum either; they want the deal to go through so that they get a larger slice of the money pie...
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I never said otherwise.
That’s only in the case of the gaming divisions of both companies, though.
@B-I-G-DEVIL I only know of 2 people out of 100 and something gamers that I talk to regularly who even own a xbox. Microsoft just wants to go streaming. I think everyone is fools for going digital your just letting have your money for renting something and it can go away at anytime. And most of microsofts big games now are online, so when the player base drops to where its costing them more to keep it up than what they are making off of it, well good bye game.
I don't see it hurting playstation one bit just looking at the numbers, shooter war games are a dime a dozen.
Jim Ryan is a ***** moron. Yeah Microsoft is going to lose millions of dollars of money from Playstation owners just because they have a Playstation instead of an Xbox. Yeah not going to happen.
Microsoft is a software company first and foremost always have been always will. They lose money every Gen on consoles but make it back with software aka game sales, it's a proven fact.
Jim Ryan is a cancer to the Gaming Industry and needs to be fired. Stop the fanboy crap and realize we are all gamers no matter what hunk of plastic we choose to play our games on.
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