We finally have proof that Atlus isn't completely backwards when it comes to "spoilers" for its games. You may recall that the developer previously placed strict restrictions upon the ways in which people could share footage or screenshots from the likes of Persona 5 — even going as far to disable the PS4's share button in the original release.
At the time, it was at least somewhat understandable — it was a new game (well, outside of Japan) with story twists that could be spoiled fairly easily. However, Atlus repeated the restrictions for Persona 5 Royal, and did it again for the recent re-release. These restrictions basically prevented streamers or other content creators from showing certain sections of the game.
Simply put, it was an archaic way of doing things, and fans have been wondering whether similar restrictions would be imposed on the upcoming remasters of Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden. Fortunately, Atlus seems to have come to its senses, and won't be so strict with these older titles.
It shouldn't really come as a surprise, given Persona 3 is 17 years old and Persona 4 is just two years younger, but this is Atlus we're talking about. All the company asks is that if you do plan on sharing your experience publicly, you mark spoilers where necessary (as reported by Persona Central).
Are you glad to see Atlus being more understanding about potential spoilers? Stream the remasters to your heart's content in the comments section below.
[source personacentral.com]
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They should of continued to be strict fed up with games getting ruined by so called streamers releasing a games plot etc. All for a few clicks.
More companies should be restrictive with content. It greatly affects my enjoyment of a game when it happens like the Last of Us part 2 leak for example.
@Cyberpsycho I don't like spoilers either, but The Last of Us stuff was a full-on internal leak, while this was Atlus stopping people from using the share button on an old game.
I would like to think we can find a happy balance without completely stopping people from posting screenshots or videos online.
@ShogunRok Persona 3/4 will be new to many people as haven't been playable on modern consoles. I believe that they should be restrictive for people that want to play blind.
As for The Last of Us 2 these so called streamers didn't help by posting everything so nobody could avoid it.
Streamers need to be given boundaries or nothing is going to be a surprise.
Twitch streamers I have no problem with streaming these new games, I mean you have to sign up to twitch, log in on pc or download the app and then click on a streamer to watch which says what game they are playing before you click on it, if a twitch streamer is ruining a game for you then that's definitely a you problem.
YouTube on the other hand is totally different, you got guys who get the games a couple of days early (which is fine) and post Walkthroughs (which is fine again) as I'm an adult and have restraint from clicking on the videos, but it's the god damn thumbnails that aggrivate me, definitely saw some spoilers on Ragnarok videos just by looking at the thumbnail. They should be more considerate and use the promotional images for the game or the game cover art as thumbnails.
And finally the worst place for spoilers is twitter, so I'd suggest keeping off twitter if there's a new heavily story focussed game that's recently released.
@UltimateOtaku91 "And finally the worst place
for spoilersis twitter, so I'd suggest keeping off twitterif there's a new heavily story focussed game that's recently released."There, I fixed it for you.
@NEStalgia Beautifully and accurately edited 😂
Welcome to 2013 Altus
It's a downside of social media I guess, the spoilers for everything. I still clearly remember the day I was staring at my TV, horrified as sephiroth did his thing in ff7, I doubt we'll ever get a moment like that again.
Last of us 2 could potentially have been one in a non social media world.
@Balosi not completely true. I purchased Mass Effect Andromeda and sat horrified. Complete surprise when I uninstalled it 3 hours later.
@Cyberpsycho you are not forced to watch a streamer “spoil” the games you want to play. Getting spoiled like that is your choice. Preventing spoilers is also on you, not the sites or streamers.
I don't see what is outdated about protecting fans from rampant spoilers.
But for these old games, it doesn't matter.
Not like they are gonna pop all over your feed with spoilers. But, for big releases, it does happen. So, i appreciate the effort.
Persona 3 and 4 have been around for over a decade each. If you don't know the story by now, you can't blame story leaks. Even my friends who never had a PlayStation console growing up, watched playthroughs from beginning to end.
Persona 3 Remaster is a real disappointment. Atlus is falling apart.
Won't someone please think of the streamers!
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@Eldritch hardly oddballs, the practice is pretty mainstream. When I used to be a twitch streamer I had my channel open for anyone to watch and comment, a few dozen people would cycle in and out during any given stream. And I was a nobody. Imagine the Twitch members who get several million views per stream?
Idk why you are so mad, if I've never been into Grand theft auto and I suddenly got into it now, I shouldn't expect the story to be hidden in spoiler tags since I just got into it now. The game and series has been around a long time.
@NomNom you’ve said this as if Persona was completely relevant and a huge hit to the western audience before the last 5 years.
Persona was very much niche compared to games like Final Fantasy.
If I didn't have a VITA, i’d have no idea cause nobody would talk about Persona if it wasn’t for Persona 4 Golden.
These restrictions wouldn't be so bad if they had a window, but I don't think the developers ever push updates to remove them after a certain period.
I still can't take screenshots of the final chapter in FF7 Remake for example. I understand Square preventing that when it launched, but we're about 3 years on now.
Never had any problems with spoilers, but then again I don't have social media nor do I go to the comment sections without any good reason.
Maybe some thumb on Youtube, but thumbs are usually clickbait so I simply ignore them.
Just print that disc Atlus instead of reselling the same game 3 three times at full price.
@CielloArc I had a ***** spoil the Last of Us 2 here in a totally unrelated articles because someone didn't like that she was a lesbian. Its not hard to get spoilers even when trying to avoid them because of sad people.
@dasd2 I’ve never played Persona 3 and I really wanted to try it, but after seeing gameplay of the portable version I think I’ll give it a miss. I want to be able to run around and explore, but from what I saw the portable version is mostly static screens.
@Balosi Well it had Aeris being dead on the back of the box. That's a lot worse that someone streaming a game that you don't even have to watch.
@Cyberpsycho Streamers almost always use capture cards so this restriction doesn't affect them. This just stops regular players taking screencaps for themselves.
@NomNom I'm not mad, just bewildered. I find streamers and people who watch streaming somewhat strange to be honest. It's the whole getting someone else to live your life for you.
Instead of experiencing it yourself you watch someone else have the experience. Just seems a little sad and pathetic.
And just because something is "mainstream" doesn't mean it's not odd. My question was more why should what "your friends" do be the decider as to what's best for the rest of us?
Just my opinion but seems it's an inappropriate opinion going by the removal of my last message... and, I'm sure, this one.
I understand the sentiments of spoiler and spoiler culture but both of these games are 10+ years old at this point so it's hard to really be spoiled by anything that has to do with either of these games. On an unrelated note there needs to be a general consensus on the "spoiler alert" rule if talking about sopranos and a random 3rd party persons chimes in with "Spoiler Alert I'm only on ____ season" I think it should be fair that I tell him to "Piss off."
@Jacko11 persona 4 is on Steam, been there a while now. If you don't want to be spoiled add key word blockers to your browser. It's not the rest of the world's responsibility to keep the game spoiler free...
Does anyone know when we can actually buy the games - they are still down as announced on the PS Store?
@Eldritch you can be bewildered but it's a thing. If you are interested why people enjoy it, try it yourself. Pick a game you've already played through, go on to twitch and find a streamer. Try it out with a few streamers. You might find one you like. Not everyone has a budget to buy every game console. If I had that kind of money, I'd have an Xbox series X as well. I generally play PC and PS5 because I can only afford one game console, and I already have a prebuilt PC for other functionalities. I have watched a few playthroughs myself, such as previous iterations of Halo. I usually play my own games while I have a screen open to a streamer every so often.
You might be surprised and actually enjoy it. Some users also provide commentary, and interact with the audience. It can be a fun experience depending on the stream you join and other attendees.
@Bentleyma the story is still worth playing through. And the dungeons are mostly the same. You also get the chance to play as a female protag with different set of relationships and bonds. It's definitely an experience.
@NomNom been in Steam since June 13th 2020.
You’ve completely avoided everything i’ve said in counter to you.
GG.
@Jacko11
You're acting as if Persona wasn't always a Western focus title. Ever since Sega bought them, they have been marketing far more to western markets than they have in Japan.
Idk what you want me to tell you. Just because the series was a PlayStation exclusive for a long time doesn't mean it wasn't available to view. There was even an Anime released for Persona 3-5. Atlus is a pretty big player in the JRPG space, if you're new to the franchise, block out key words on your browser and don't look up reviews of the game. What else do you want? No one here will spoil it for you, so that just leaves Twitter (which you shouldn't enter anyways if you want to avoid spoilers of any kind), YouTube, and Twitch which you should also avoid for spoilers.
@NomNom I haven’t even said anything about spoilers for the game lol, I could care less.
I’m saying that your point about Persona being a major player and widely known in the West before Persona 4 Golden isn’t cap. I thought that was clear.
Its the exact same deal with Yakuza until the last couple of years where its really boomed.
Happy to hear they're being more relaxed about this!
Who gets spoilers? You have to actively seek them out. I only use youtube to seek out how to beat a boss. Don't see why Atlus need to restrict this.
Couldn't care less about self absorbed Twitch Streamers. I don't even have a Twitch account so I don't see their spoilers.
Atlas also are hypocritical the p3-5 animes basically tell the whole stories of these games. Massive spoilers in them.
I am mildly let down these are just remasters. Would have loved a remake of P3P and P3FES using at least P5 engine (something that is surely not pushing the ps5 or even ps4 hardware in the first place). I will eventually get these when they’ll be on sale.
Btw I have finished these games quite a few times and they are ANCENT. If you get a spoiler now it’s kind of your fault 😅Be on the lookout for spoilers for Star Wars and Psycho too…
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