Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty Looks Like a PS5, PS4 Dark Horse This Packed 2023

Definitely looking forward to it but will be playing it on GamePass.

I hate souls like games and at the same time I love them. I cannot wait...

This was confusing as heck until I realised it was a different thing to Wu Chang: Fallen Feathers

The demo was solid, if a little underwhelming. I’m sure the finished game will be a winner!

I think the hype for this is less because it looks and play just like the nioh series. It's another game using that same engine and essentially the same look but with a different coat of paint. A demo was released and those of us that played it know it's just a clone of its predecessors and with that comes terrible level design, horrible loot system, overtly cluttered menus, story told through lame cartoonish cutscenes, a ps1 era overworld map and the game being padded out with replaying the exact same levels over and over again with different starting points.

Many will buy it for the combat for sure but it won't garner hype unless it improves its shortcomings, updates its visuals, and perhaps refreshes the setting in a more discernible way or hopefully all of the above.

I'd be in if they stopped the terrible borderlands style loot system which forces tedious micromanagement in menus over and over again to sift through it all. It completely destroys the glory of getting better gear and feels lazy. Getting 1000 different versions of the same weapon and armor with different stats throughout a single play through is a huge, cheap letdown for me.

@KundaliniRising333 its on gamepass so people will play there

I played the demo a bit ago and felt exhausted by the Souls formula.

N.i.c.e.I cant wait for wo long fallen dynasty.nioh is one of the best video games franchises ever.word up son

I am hyped for this. Put probably a thousand plus hours into Nioh 2.

@KundaliniRising333 You can easily control the loot system if you bother to set it up in the menus. Are the menus cluttered? Maybe. But part of playing such a complex game is becoming intimate with the systems.
If you don’t like it, there are plenty of games which are basically movies and have no replay value or depth.

Looks like a ps4 game with ray tracing.

Its a Team Ninja game so it was always on my radar.

Most anticipated game this year along with zelda and Starfield. And it's on gamepass. Team Ninja make some of the best action games ever made and have been 1 of my favourite developers since Ninja Gaiden Black. Ninja Gaiden 2 on xbox 360 is almost combat perfection

Flying under the radar? There have been loads of articles about this game all over the tinternet since it was announced so pretty much anybody who visits a gaming site would have read about it..game looks solid and i really want to get this as soon as it releases so i can enjoy the cluttered menus,pointless loot mechanics and supremely crap level designs..hopefully there will be a lot of pointless mt's and dlc's so i can contribute towards the money grubbing capitalist company (being very sarcastic/ironic.)

@durxll123 looks like a PS4 tube game with nothing to remember to me. I am sick of these games and the formula aswell.

@jrt87 I love Ninja Gaiden and Nioh and like the FF series so thought them being combined would be awesome hell no that game is if I’m being generous mediocre as hell and I regret buying it so much

Its a gamepass day 1 so will try it on the series S. If its awesome I might pick it up for the ps5, more horsepower to play with plus the awesomeness of the dualsense 😁

There is to much so i have to skip some great games this year to buy some ofthem a little later.

@KundaliniRising333 Ouch! Guess I’ll move Nioh down to the bottom of the backlog. 😅

So this is pretty much Nioh 3 in anything but name and Sony involvement? Kinda the same as when From made Dark Souls instead of Demon's Souls 2 back in the day.

@awp69 ugh gamepass will be the downfall of gaming. you small minded ppl cant see it but think for a min, once every game is on gamepass cuz Microsoft buys up everything then when yall can play games for free basically, game development will go to crap and there wont be quality games anything itll be even worse online only microtransaction filled trash if no one buys and supports the games thats what we will get. exactly why i hate gamepass and why i let my sub run out after playing gears, halo, and some forza. xbox doesnt have ***** compared to premium. just a bunch of indie crap with a few good ones. i perfer buying my games on ps and supporting devs and good games. i want gaming to continue unlike you

@Arnna please explain to me how you control the loot system and how this control counters the issues that really drag down these games for me

@KaijuKaiser I completely agree with you that Fromsoft games are and have been doing the same ***** for nearly two decades now as well.

In my opinion if developers are going to do this where they just milk an engine and a formula over and over again then they should only be allowed to charge full price for the first iteration everything after should just be considered a standalone DLC where you know you're paying for the exact same Graphics the exact same gameplay the exact same assets and story arc may be some reskins so some enemy types look differently but other than that you know what you're getting charge 30 or 40 bucks for it and I think everyone would be happy but I can't be the only one not to notice that naughty dog from soft Santa Monica Studios and so many more are literally just making the same game over and over it's completely stifled innovation and fresh new ideas even new IP'S in favor of profit driven greed.

My point in offering criticisms with these games Nioh and the souls games and any other from soft iteration is not so much that it's not okay to keep doing what works and what is awesome about these games it's that the shortcomings that they do clearly have are never addressed. It's just copy and paste the same good things but also the same bad things including the same story arcs in from soft titles. To not listen to player feedback and to not improve on shortcomings or even take advantage of technology that comes out over the 10 to 15 years of releasing these games on the same engine just feels cheap tacked on and a developer favor milking the formula and aging engines to Death charging the same price over a decade for what is essentially the same game over and over reusing so many assets and animations that one can even see a boss that may look different but behave identical to the boss they reused everything from in a previous title.

I am hoping Rise of the Robin will be better, but if they simply carry Nioh's loot system and way of story telling over to a semi open world setting I will likely wait for a sale as I have with every one of these nioh clones.

I'd love to play this, but I'm just not good enough! Nioh 1 and 2 kicked my butt loads, and I didnt manage to get very far in the demo, so unfortunately, I'll have to miss out on this. Big shame as I think I'd like it....

It looks okay. Seems like another game I'd play but never have the time to get around to.

Love the Nioh franchise, however, one of the reasons I fell so enamored by that franchise is it's setting, Japan and the Sengoku Jidai period, but also because I am a huge fan of souls-like games.

This game, on the contrary, I have little to no interest in the setting. Might just buy the game however to demonstrate to Koei Tecmo where it's core, and most important audience is located 😄

@grapetrap no problem, im not afraid to vioce whats gonna happen and why its wrong lol cuz i want gaming to continue i want to have my son one day play great games like me. it amazes me how many ppl dont see what gamepass will do one day tho, my friend mustang on ps was the one who actually opened my eyes to the whole thing, short term gamepass is good but long term its bad

@grapetrap yeah sure its trolling to point out its elsewhere. /s

but whatever floats your boat

@KundaliniRising333

Why should it be any different from Nioh? Nioh was well received and this is basically a spiritual successor. The loot system is enjoyed by most alongside the fact that there's a mission select.

Cartoonish cutscenes? Neither this or Nioh have any.

The difference between this and say Elden Ring however is light and day. Team Ninja have revamped the combat completely with entirely new animations whereas Elden Ring is still running with PS3 era animations from Dark Souls 1 and the same combat system.

It's strange some would criticise this game for looking similar to Nioh but not Elden Ring for looking similar to Dark Souls.

I and many others are looking forward to this. Just because you're not doesn't mean Team Ninja have to change anything. Elden Ring was still a success despite not changing much from Dark Souls. Undoubtedly this will be too.

@durxll123 That's because it is a PS4 game just like God of War Ragnarok, Elden Ring, Horizon etc. There's only been three actual PS5 games as of yet...

@Th3solution Give both Nioh games a try. I mean that's one person's opinion. For me, I found both Nioh games better than anything From Software has produced. I don't know where the "cartoonish cutscenes" criticism come from but Nioh had done its cutscenes very well complete with facial capture for dialogue. Dialogue was natural too.

@KundaliniRising333 Rise of the Ronin seems to be very different as it's an actual open world RPG and doesn't appear to have the loot mechanics of Diablo as Nioh and this game do.

As for me, I enjoy the loot mechanics in these games. I never felt I was discovering the same items either as they were all different with 100 different designs for the Katana alone without mentioning all the other categories of weapons.

If loot based RPGs aren't your thing I can understand why you would criticise Nioh but I think it worked really well and led to a game where you could create complex builds.

@Titntin You should try it again as it objectively was hard.....The devs listened to the feedback and the Parry or deflect time window is much more generous.

I'm actually afraid it's going to be too easy imo.😌

Are you on playstation?

@Eadgar it's a team Ninja action rpg but in like a Dynasty Warriors type setting.

Which is a Very welcome edition.😌

@IronTruth elden ring is dark souls 3.5....recycled animations and plays exactly like dark souls 3.....Of course there's minor new stuff they added in but the core is rehashed mechanics.

Team Ninja constantly updates the combat to be something new....the only thing they reuse is the engine. Which this looks way better then Nioh 2 in terms of the art style imo but Fromsoft use the same engine as well!

@DivineX1 Thanks for the info, appreciated!
I play on all systems but pick ps5 if I have that choice (I prefer the controller).
Hopefully I'll get a chance to try again once its released, though theres not much the devs can do to get my reaction times back to a young guys state! Ill be happy to try again as it looks fantastic 😁

Hope it rectifies the gripes I had with Nioh 2 (love the first enough to finish it on all difficulties whilst I struggles with one play through of Nioh 2)

The maps in Nioh 2 just felt really samey and had noting as memorable as the first (whether the first level trek to the boat, going through the cave to vampire lady, or the watery plank stage.........and that just in the first few locations)

Whislt my other gripe was in bosses being predominantly humanoid and uninspired in Nioh 2